| ScottL | someone just sent me this link about us moving to xfce: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/386600/ubuntu_studio_says_no_unity_adopts_xfce/ | 03:31 |
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| ScottL | looks like it's being picked up as an anti-unity/not towing canonical line issue | 03:31 |
| Kokito | good evening folks | 04:28 |
| ScottL | hi Kokito | 04:33 |
| ScottL | here's something a little weird: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/386600/ubuntu_studio_says_no_unity_adopts_xfce/ | 04:33 |
| Kokito | Hey ScottL ! | 04:33 |
| Kokito__ | sorry ScottL my chrome netbook crashed | 04:37 |
| holstein | Kokito__: ? | 04:37 |
| holstein | you got one of the new official chrome netbooks? | 04:37 |
| Kokito__ | got one from the pilot program | 04:37 |
| holstein | interesting | 04:38 |
| Kokito__ | in January | 04:38 |
| holstein | what do you think | 04:38 |
| holstein | hows the battery? | 04:38 |
| Kokito__ | battery os good | 04:38 |
| Kokito__ | is | 04:38 |
| holstein | cool | 04:38 |
| Kokito__ | but the browser crashes too often | 04:38 |
| holstein | :/ | 04:38 |
| holstein | odd | 04:38 |
| holstein | i use chromium | 04:38 |
| holstein | and its cool | 04:38 |
| holstein | usually* | 04:38 |
| holstein | Kokito__: local storage at all? | 04:39 |
| Kokito__ | holstein: yes, but can only be accessed through the browser AFAICT | 04:39 |
| holstein | small local storage? | 04:40 |
| holstein | or is it decent? | 04:40 |
| holstein | like 4gb's or so? | 04:40 |
| holstein | at least | 04:40 |
| Kokito__ | I think the total is 16GB | 04:40 |
| holstein | cool | 04:40 |
| Kokito__ | yeah, got it for free, so can't complain | 04:41 |
| holstein | sure | 04:41 |
| Kokito__ | but this browser-constrained user experience is not my piece of cake :) | 04:41 |
| holstein | i heard a thing about them today | 04:41 |
| holstein | Kokito__: you got cell wifi? | 04:41 |
| Kokito__ | I have regular wifi | 04:42 |
| Kokito__ | not through my cell, I mean | 04:42 |
| Kokito__ | ScottL: can you paste that URL again please? | 04:43 |
| holstein | http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/386600/ubuntu_studio_says_no_unity_adopts_xfce/ | 04:43 |
| holstein | ^ that one? | 04:43 |
| Kokito__ | yep. thanks! | 04:44 |
| Kokito__ | ScottL: so, what's your take reaction to the article on computer world? | 04:47 |
| ScottL | Kokito__, sorry was upstairs working on gnome3 and pulse/jack integration | 04:58 |
| ScottL | Kokito__, i skimmed through it (because it's about me and it makes me uncomfortable reading about me) | 04:58 |
| ScottL | but my first thought was that it was a bit of sensationalism to bash unity | 04:59 |
| holstein | yeah | 04:59 |
| holstein | i wish it had less unity bashing | 04:59 |
| holstein | or none | 04:59 |
| holstein | but, its a good article | 04:59 |
| ScottL | we are such a niche group that our opinion should not be weighted for any decisions | 05:00 |
| ScottL | holstein, you should look at the images at: http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/ | 05:02 |
| ScottL | holstein, i managed to get gnome 3 from a fedora live disc to dump into "fallback" mode | 05:02 |
| ScottL | which looks remarkably like gnome-panel | 05:02 |
| ScottL | i need to also email david henningsonn about what he said about jack and pulse working together, i don't think they do with ubuntu studio | 05:03 |
| holstein | ScottL: yeah | 05:03 |
| holstein | thats what i found | 05:04 |
| holstein | not the same functionality though | 05:04 |
| holstein | at all | 05:04 |
| holstein | fact is, XFCE is the most like gnome2 of any currently supported DE | 05:04 |
| holstein | ScottL: im not sure about that either | 05:05 |
| holstein | the pulse jack thing | 05:05 |
| holstein | sounds too easy to be true | 05:05 |
| holstein | ive used falks pulse-jack package | 05:05 |
| holstein | and ive read about how to do it the hard way | 05:05 |
| ScottL | david has an email on the -devel list about this, i'm going to hit him back with what i did and how it responded and see what he says | 05:06 |
| holstein | yeah, im following it closely | 05:06 |
| holstein | that thread | 05:06 |
| ScottL | holstein, why do you say not the same functionality, it was pretty much the same i thought | 05:06 |
| holstein | i hope it is that easy | 05:06 |
| holstein | ScottL: right click anywhere | 05:06 |
| holstein | or try doing anything you would do | 05:07 |
| holstein | to customize gnome2 | 05:07 |
| Kokito__ | ScottL & holstein: I agree the author's interpretation of the intent in the switch to XFCE is off. but I am not surprised. :) | 05:08 |
| ScottL | holstein, i haven't tried that, but i shall | 05:08 |
| holstein | ScottL: the look is clost | 05:08 |
| holstein | close* | 05:08 |
| holstein | but the feel is far off i find | 05:09 |
| ScottL | holstein, i see what you mean now | 05:27 |
| ScottL | Kokito__, that is true | 05:34 |
| ScottL | i'm going to bed | 05:34 |
| Kokito__ | good night ScottL | 05:35 |
| ScottL | hi quadrispro abogani | 12:44 |
| abogani | ScottL: Hi Scott | 12:48 |
| quadrispro | hi ScottL abo | 12:48 |
| quadrispro | uh, gone | 12:49 |
| ScottL | lol | 12:49 |
| ScottL | quadrispro, what i was going to ask you about earlier was if you can think of any new plugins that we might want to include in ocelot | 12:49 |
| ScottL | quadrispro, and if you have had any practical experience with ladish...i've been playing with it to make sure i include everything needed for ocelot | 12:50 |
| quadrispro | ScottL, on phone, back soon | 12:52 |
| ScottL | quadrispro, no problem | 12:53 |
| ScottL | :) | 12:53 |
| quadrispro | ScottL, if you know other plugins, ping me | 13:15 |
| quadrispro | and, regarding ladish, we need to handle the lash2ladish transition | 13:16 |
| quadrispro | shortly, the most important point now is removing lash | 13:16 |
| ScottL | quadrispro, re: plugins, i'm sorry, didn't explain very well, i meant any of the plugins that recently have gone into debian during natty and now that might be really interesting | 13:20 |
| ScottL | e.g. i'm going to make sure the foo-yc20 is included | 13:20 |
| quadrispro | sure, foo-yc20 would be useful! | 13:20 |
| * quadrispro having a look at Natty's archive | 13:21 | |
| quadrispro | ScottL, did someone backport mda-lv2 to maverick? | 13:22 |
| ScottL | i try to keep up with the debain multimedia ML and catch what i think is interesting but there is soo much traffic and i don't always see stuff | 13:22 |
| ScottL | quadrispro, i don't know if it was backported to maverick | 13:22 |
| ScottL | i do have it on my list to confirm it's in ocelot however :) | 13:23 |
| ScottL | actually it appears to be top of the list :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/ReleasePlanning#audio%20plugins | 13:23 |
| quadrispro | it's already in Natty | 13:23 |
| ScottL | oh good, i didn't remember if it was or not | 13:23 |
| quadrispro | ScottL, not eq10q | 13:24 |
| quadrispro | I believe a backport would be appreciated | 13:24 |
| quadrispro | ScottL, wah-plugins is in Natty | 13:25 |
| quadrispro | vocproc is in Ubuntu since Maverick | 13:25 |
| quadrispro | autotalent is in Natty | 13:25 |
| quadrispro | and invada's lv2 stuff is available in Ubuntu since Lucid | 13:26 |
| quadrispro | I'm sorry for mixxx, but it was late for getting new release into 11.104 | 13:27 |
| quadrispro | 11.04 * | 13:27 |
| quadrispro | a backport might be feasible, I think | 13:27 |
| ScottL | quadrispro, when you say "not eq10q"...are you saying we shouldn't ship it or we aren't shipping it and should? | 13:27 |
| ScottL | oh and don't spend too much time digging around, i was curious if there were any outstanding ones that we absolutely should include ;) | 13:28 |
| quadrispro | ScottL, sorry, eq10q hits Ubuntu Oneiric | 13:28 |
| ScottL | and i further apologize, but i must leave to take kids to school/daycare and go to work, although i will be on again in about an hour though | 13:28 |
| quadrispro | natty doesn't have it | 13:28 |
| ScottL | okay, i'll adjust my list to reflect it :) | 13:29 |
| quadrispro | ScottL, just few quick checks don't hurt, no problem :) | 13:29 |
| quadrispro | ScottL, we have also updated gwc, many users may find it interesting | 13:31 |
| ScottL | oohhhh, i don't know aobut gwc, i'll look at it | 13:34 |
| quadrispro | going away, see you later | 13:47 |
| scott-work | good answer to that email holstein about gnome2 and asking someone to maintain it if they want it | 15:34 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Wasn't it specifically about maintaining GNOME 3 and Unity related packages? After all, having packages depend on GNOME 2 components becomes impossible now? | 15:35 |
| scott-work | i believe that is true astraljava | 15:36 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Got thinking about this, especially after ckontros cracking jokes about KDE-based Studio. I might tinker with such packages in my PPA. Very interested to see what kind of results one could get. | 15:37 |
| astraljava | scott-work: The idea being there would be different metapackages for different DEs. | 15:37 |
| astraljava | scott-work: Naturally totally out of Ubuntu Studio's scope. | 15:37 |
| astraljava | But lending from its packages heavily. | 15:38 |
| astraljava | But that's off-topic, just thought I'd share. :) | 15:38 |
| scott-work | astraljava: have you tried kxstudio? | 15:38 |
| scott-work | it's kde based and qutie pretty and way too monotone dark for me | 15:38 |
| astraljava | scott-work: No I haven't, will have to one of these days. | 15:38 |
| scott-work | it becomes hard to differentiate one window from the next because it's uniform black all around :( | 15:38 |
| astraljava | Oh okay, yeah that's not nice. | 15:41 |
| holstein | scott-work: thats the kind of thing i should clear with you | 15:42 |
| holstein | but i was on a roll :) | 15:42 |
| holstein | and i figured, it is a community effort | 15:42 |
| holstein | if someone wants to come and start and maintain a meta | 15:42 |
| holstein | that should be welcomed right? | 15:42 |
| holstein | i mean, within reason* | 15:43 |
| astraljava | holstein: I don't see why not. | 15:43 |
| holstein | :) | 15:43 |
| astraljava | The team does one thing, and won't suppress the community efforts in any way. | 15:43 |
| holstein | well, anyone can always do a PPA | 15:43 |
| holstein | even if it conflicts with what we are doing or whatever | 15:43 |
| astraljava | Naturally, that's just what I threatened to do on my 'own' time above. :D | 15:44 |
| holstein | astraljava: thats a good place to test things too | 15:44 |
| astraljava | That's true. | 15:45 |
| * holstein gotta run... BBL | 15:46 | |
| scott-work | holstein: absolutely! and you don't need to clear that stuff with me | 15:50 |
| scott-work | i'm not sure anyone really needs to "clear" stuff with me | 15:57 |
| scott-work | i think it was a good thing to say, anything that helps get community involvement probably is a good thing ;) | 15:57 |
| astraljava | scott-work: You got that right. We need to gain velocity and interest. :) | 16:07 |
| holstein | i feel like ralph and i are playing a game of chess ;) | 16:16 |
| holstein | i think by the time that thread reaches 100+ emails | 16:17 |
| holstein | we are either going to be best friends | 16:17 |
| holstein | or dropping F bombs left and right | 16:17 |
| astraljava | Truly might be one or the other. :D | 16:17 |
| scott-work | lol holstein that's funny | 16:19 |
| scott-work | hi again quadrispro | 16:19 |
| scott-work | my nanokontrol should be here by the weekend :) i'm pretty damn stoked about it | 16:19 |
| holstein | w00t | 16:19 |
| holstein | those things are sweet | 16:19 |
| holstein | i was thinking about one | 16:19 |
| quadrispro | hi scott-work, hi all | 16:20 |
| holstein | mapping to ardour and sooperlooper | 16:20 |
| holstein | quadrispro: o/ | 16:20 |
| scott-work | holstein: stuzz has me geared up to rerecord my parts for my song now that he rocked the drums on it | 16:20 |
| scott-work | holstein: i think stuzz probably did a better job than jono might have ;) | 16:20 |
| quadrispro | hi holstein ! | 16:21 |
| quadrispro | scott-work, the next few days I'll have some packages to fix | 16:22 |
| astraljava | nanokontrol? | 16:22 |
| quadrispro | csound, gwc (fix is ready, will touch debian in few hours) | 16:23 |
| quadrispro | ecasound | 16:23 |
| quadrispro | and then I'd start the transition, at least in Ubuntu, from lash to ladish | 16:23 |
| holstein | yeah, stuzz has quite a skill with h2 | 16:23 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: that is super cool (transition from lash to ladish) | 16:23 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: i've said before, if nedko can fulfill his vision (which is pretty aggressive, i admit) then he will outstrip what i perceive jack-session is doing | 16:24 |
| quadrispro | i only need to to write down a list of all packages supporting lash, ries.debian.org will help me | 16:24 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: is there an easy way with packages.debian.org or similar site that will help me look for all the plugins available (lv2, ladspa, etc)? | 16:25 |
| quadrispro | scott-work, http://blends.alioth.debian.org/multimedia/tasks/packagelist.it.html | 16:26 |
| quadrispro | and http://blends.alioth.debian.org/multimedia/tasks/ | 16:27 |
| scott-work | oh sweet, i will check them out | 16:27 |
| quadrispro | ;) | 16:29 |
| scott-work | last cycle i went through and combed through all available plugins to include what i could | 16:31 |
| scott-work | but i also "updated" in some cases from ladspa to lv2 | 16:31 |
| scott-work | i think the swh and maybe one other i "updated" and removed the ladspa package | 16:31 |
| scott-work | hi saidinesh5 ! welcome to the channel | 16:34 |
| quadrispro | well done | 16:34 |
| saidinesh5 | hello guys :) | 16:35 |
| quadrispro | falktx might be happy to know that I'm on fst, I hope to see it in Debian soon | 16:35 |
| saidinesh5 | you know i didn't know that ubuntu studio is still active until just now i have seen the announcement in phronix (Y) | 16:35 |
| astraljava | saidinesh5: Interesting. We haven't missed a release ever since the first. | 16:39 |
| scott-work | saidinesh5: do you have a link? | 16:39 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: yes, i believe falktx will be happy | 16:39 |
| saidinesh5 | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQ1Mw | 16:39 |
| scott-work | i saw something recently in the ubuntu bug about fst | 16:39 |
| saidinesh5 | astraljava: Oh last i tried ubuntu studio out was about a year (and a half maybe)ago can't remember | 16:40 |
| scott-work | aaaahhhhh! another "ubuntu studio hates unity and gnome3" article :/ | 16:40 |
| saidinesh5 | just graduated from college, so may be i ll have chance to dig some music making apps again , so will probably give ubuntu studio another chance :) | 16:40 |
| scott-work | we don't hate them :P we just prefer that gnome2 workflow | 16:41 |
| astraljava | Heheh. :) | 16:41 |
| saidinesh5 | hehe | 16:41 |
| saidinesh5 | btw. does the iso include a wubi installer ?? | 16:42 |
| saidinesh5 | i remember installing from an alternate iso the last time | 16:42 |
| quadrispro | scott-work, why not getting rid of pulseaudio? | 16:44 |
| quadrispro | I say: s/PulseAudio/JACK/ | 16:46 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: are you asking why don't we get rid of JACK? | 16:48 |
| astraljava | saidinesh5: No it doesn't, it's the alternate install version. | 16:48 |
| scott-work | thanks for the link saidinesh5 , i need to start collecting these somewhere :P | 16:48 |
| quadrispro | scott-work, no, sorry: I'd like to avoid using PulseAudio | 16:48 |
| saidinesh5 | scott-work: you are welcome :) | 16:48 |
| saidinesh5 | astraljava: any reason that we don't give out a wubi installer? | 16:49 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: i would too my friend ;) | 16:49 |
| scott-work | unfortunately, we may simply only be able to integrate it better | 16:49 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: i'm workign with david henningsonn on this currently via ubuntustudio-devel ML | 16:49 |
| scott-work | he actually works at canonical on audio apparently | 16:50 |
| quadrispro | yes, I see, but... ok, pulse must be in place since it's installed by default | 16:50 |
| quadrispro | well.. why not avoiding it to run at startup? | 16:51 |
| astraljava | saidinesh5: Simplicity. I don't think you'd get the latency as low as you'd like when running in a sandbox like that. But I am no expert on such matters, so take this with a grain of salt. | 16:51 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: that is a possiblity, i'm not a robust developer, can you explain more how this might be accomplished | 16:52 |
| quadrispro | please note that ladish seems to conflict with jack and pulse-to-jack connector | 16:52 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: we could certainly incorporate this into ubuntustudio-settings or something | 16:52 |
| scott-work | ladish seems to conflict with jack? | 16:52 |
| saidinesh5 | astraljava: but i don't think the latency is due to the disk access when using the real time apps .... | 16:52 |
| quadrispro | scott-work, no :) sorry again | 16:52 |
| quadrispro | I've encountered some issue while using the pulse's jack connector | 16:53 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: that's okay :) i can probably bug someone on the #ubuntu-desktop channel about it | 16:53 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: and falktx probably knows a trick or two about it as well | 16:53 |
| quadrispro | pulseaudio-module-jack, that's the runtime package | 16:53 |
| astraljava | saidinesh5: Yeah, like I said, I haven't gotten too familiar with real-time. But to answer your installer question, that was it. | 16:53 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm....... | 16:53 |
| * saidinesh5 needs to figure out a way to test drive ubuntu studio ..... especially since he has ran out of free partitions | 16:54 | |
| astraljava | saidinesh5: You can always run the vanilla live-cd, then install all ubuntustudio-* packages on top. Won't get you the real thing, but neither would the live-DVD, albeit much closer. Maybe try the usb stick approach, which enables persistency. | 17:03 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: i will keep that in mind to explore with david | 17:03 |
| quadrispro | ;) | 17:04 |
| saidinesh5 | astraljava: yes, but still setting up all the environment for Music making is a huge PITA iirc | 17:04 |
| scott-work | saidinesh5: it's not nearly as bad as it used to be | 17:05 |
| scott-work | just like how many -rt improvements have been incorporated into the kernel, many settings have been resolved in other areas | 17:05 |
| scott-work | there's not many things a user needs to do in order to setup a "vanilla" install to record music these days | 17:05 |
| scott-work | they're still there, mind you ;) just not as imposing as before | 17:06 |
| saidinesh5 | scott-work: well i remember accepting some weird agreement from steinberg to just get Qtractor compile with vst support | 17:07 |
| saidinesh5 | and then wine + half my vsts don't work | 17:07 |
| saidinesh5 | hehe brb: pizza time :D | 17:07 |
| astraljava | Mmmm... pizza. | 17:08 |
| astraljava | Anyone else have problems with scrobbling to last.fm? | 17:45 |
| scott-work | sorry astraljava , i don't use last.fm | 18:03 |
| astraljava | Damn, you totally should. :) | 18:12 |
| saidinesh5 | hmm..... back :) | 18:13 |
| * saidinesh5 luves the combo of extra cheese pizza + BBT | 18:13 | |
| astraljava | saidinesh5: Grrr... :D | 18:25 |
| saidinesh5 | hehe | 18:25 |
| saidinesh5 | so ya, now first i need to find a way to test drive ubuntu studio | 18:26 |
| saidinesh5 | no extra partitions available...... no large enough pendrives....... dislike virtual machines | 18:26 |
| scott-work | hi troy_s :) | 18:52 |
| troy_s | scott-work: Greets. | 18:52 |
| scott-work | mudita24 | 19:31 |
| holstein | scott-work: latest linux action show mention US too | 21:18 |
| holstein | about the XFCE switch | 21:18 |
| holstein | didnt frame unity negatively at all too | 21:18 |
| holstein | i liked that | 21:18 |
| holstein | they agreed with the idea | 21:19 |
| scott-work | holstein: oh, good :) | 21:19 |
| scott-work | that's nice | 21:19 |
| holstein | they only said 'instead of adopting gnome3 or unity...' | 21:20 |
| scott-work | i'm thinking about asking the debian multimedia team to package mudita24: http://code.google.com/p/mudita24/ | 21:21 |
| scott-work | it's an envy24control replacement that has graduated scale for the sliders...they have good images on the website | 21:22 |
| holstein | scott-work: that would get it down to us quickier | 21:22 |
| holstein | i bet | 21:22 |
| holstein | yeah, thats nice | 21:22 |
| holstein | i dont need an internal mixer for the firepod | 21:22 |
| holstein | so, i have only messed with jack-mixer | 21:22 |
| scott-work | heh, that's a good use for jack-mixer, do we ship it by default? | 21:23 |
| holstein | scott-work: hmmm | 21:24 |
| holstein | good question | 21:24 |
| holstein | we should* | 21:24 |
| scott-work | i thought of jack-mixer for things like podcasts or doing live music | 21:24 |
| holstein | and i dont think so | 21:24 |
| holstein | thats when i found it | 21:24 |
| holstein | that should be in the podcasting meta | 21:24 |
| scott-work | yeah, if people who use firewire devices might use it too then we probably should ship it as well | 21:24 |
| scott-work | then email and blog about it's potential | 21:24 |
| holstein | yup | 21:24 |
| holstein | some screenies here and there | 21:24 |
| scott-work | trying to schedule with dan and fab about doing an interview for the xfce switch | 21:25 |
| holstein | we'll get jono to blog about it :) | 21:25 |
| scott-work | lol, yeah | 21:25 |
| scott-work | it would be interesting to start making songs with slightly nonsensical titles like, "Pulse Audio Mates with my Germanium Last Night" | 21:28 |
| scott-work | just for fun, mind you | 21:28 |
| holstein | i just found a delta44 on craigslist | 21:28 |
| holstein | locally | 21:28 |
| holstein | ill try and pick it up :) | 21:28 |
| scott-work | sweet, they're nice | 21:28 |
| scott-work | or "Jono Wears Little Socks on his Ears" | 21:28 |
| scott-work | how much is the 44? | 21:29 |
| holstein | $35 | 21:29 |
| holstein | IF its still there | 21:30 |
| holstein | we'll see | 21:30 |
| holstein | "my ex-wives use proprietary DAW's" | 21:30 |
| scott-work | lawlz | 21:31 |
| scott-work | sweet deal with the 44 though | 21:31 |
| holstein | it doesnt look special, so maybe it slipped through the cracks | 21:31 |
| holstein | and is still available | 21:31 |
| holstein | * like i need more gear | 21:31 |
| holstein | alright.. off to the gig.. BBL | 21:33 |
| scott-work | lol, i'll by it from you :) | 21:33 |
| holstein | scott-work: we could make that happen | 21:33 |
| holstein | ill let you know if i get it | 21:34 |
| holstein | if not, im going to just be looking for a delta1010 | 21:34 |
| holstein | not the lt one | 21:34 |
| holstein | so, i'll link you if/when i find them | 21:34 |
| holstein | anyhow.. BBL | 21:35 |
| scott-work | rockon | 21:36 |
| scott-work | hi pdxken ! welcome to the channel, how are you? | 21:36 |
| pdxken | Great! Thanks | 21:37 |
| pdxken | Any problem using UStudio stuff with Lubuntu? Now use Kubuntu on old P4. | 21:59 |
| scott-work | pdxken: shouldn't be any trouble using it with Lubuntu | 22:07 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: i was going to file an RFP for mudita24: http://code.google.com/p/mudita24/source/checkout | 22:08 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: i'm tempted to try to package it but i just don't think i'll have time for it sadly :( | 22:08 |
| scott-work | way too many other irons in the fire | 22:08 |
| scott-work | pdxken: keep in mind, one of the ubuntustudio- packages replaces the desktop, so if you are partial to your setup you might want to try to find it and avoid it | 22:09 |
| quadrispro | scott-work, if you have the hardware to use for testing | 22:09 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: i do have it | 22:09 |
| quadrispro | well | 22:10 |
| quadrispro | scott-work, so RFP, I'll touch it later | 22:10 |
| astraljava | I have an M-Audio 24/96 card as well, more than happy to pay attention to it too. | 22:11 |
| pdxken | KDE getting too big, not sure if I want LXDE or XFCE | 22:12 |
| scott-work | pdxken: the team has been talking about moving to xfce for the next release in october | 22:12 |
| astraljava | pdxken: I'm more personally interested in LXDE, but willing to go officially with the team towards XFCE. | 22:13 |
| pdxken | Thanks. sounds like a good one to try. | 22:13 |
| pdxken | I may try both on extra prtitions. | 22:14 |
| astraljava | pdxken: That's the ideal solution, so you get the initial experience from both worlds. Just remember to check back once they're officially released. | 22:17 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: i really want to package something so i might see about pushing some other stuff off presently, let me look at the svn checkout later when i get home | 22:24 |
| scott-work | i would still like to contribute something to debian | 22:24 |
| scott-work | i'm also trying to get upload rights to the ubuntustudio packages in ubuntu for this cycle so i dont' have to rely (read: bug) TheMuso so much | 22:27 |
| scott-work | this will also be especially true for this release if we move to xfce | 22:27 |
| scott-work | i think this will be true even if we don't go with xfce because of the change with gnome | 22:27 |
| scott-work | speaking of TheMuso, how did your chat go with Andy? | 22:30 |
| scott-work | i'm particularly anxious to lay out a plan for the -lowlatency kernel | 22:31 |
| quadrispro | scott-work, CC me in the RFP if you want | 22:45 |
| scott-work | quadrispro: ack | 22:45 |
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