[16:37] Good morning [16:37] charlie-tca: o/ [17:16] can someone speak to this/confirm? https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+bug/784020 [17:16] Ubuntu bug 784020 in Xubuntu Website "download page lies about disk size requirements" [Undecided,New] [17:16] valid [17:17] ok, I'll update the reqs on the site [17:17] The ubiquity installer per Ubuntu requirements needs 4 GB, we get caught up in that, even though the actual Xubuntu install only needs 2gb [17:17] I think we should give that but to ubiquity [17:18] Using the alternate installer will not force the same statement from the installer [17:19] the bug is actually against the website, so a separate one should be filed against ubiquity [17:19] I will run another test, since I did install in less then 4gb during testing. I split a 3 gb partition to install in [17:20] great, i saw quite a few people in #xubuntu inquire about that lately [17:20] thanks charlie-tca, I've gone ahead and updated the site to say: "To install Xubuntu with the standard installer (Ubiquity), you need 4.4 GB of free space on your hard disk. The Alternate Install CD only requires you to have 2 GB of free space on your hard disk." [17:20] If it rreally requires the 4 gb, I will file a bug against ubiquity, but I think it is only a matter of wording [17:27] ochosi: I still owe you a nice firefox screenshot, right? [17:44] ochosi: here's the updated one: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/xubuntu/natty/n-xubuntu-firefox.png [17:44] let me know if it's ok :) [17:52] does anyone else experience pink notify-osd alerts in natty? [17:53] micahg: no [17:54] micahg: I am on Ubuntu rather than Xubuntu [17:54] davmor2: I was referring to xubuntu :) [17:54] ubuntu stuff works fine [18:00] not any more [18:04] hey pleia2, i suppose there is no update on the wp staging site for xubuntu? [18:04] micahg: I had off-color notifications, until I got both xfsettingsd and xfwm4 to start [18:04] knome: no update :( [18:05] everyone was at UDS last week though, so no surprise there [18:05] someone could have pointed that to the IS guys [18:05] with a sharp knife [18:05] :| [18:06] charlie-tca: will check when I'm near that machine again, thanks [18:08] pleia2: ah right, @work atm, will check when i'm home :) [18:10] ochosi: thank you :) [18:11] pleia2: any chance this will hit the hp anytime soon? (or is it connected to the wordpress-migration) [18:16] ochosi: hp? [18:17] pleia2: homepage [18:18] ochosi: oh, yeah I already updated the screenshot on the homepage, the ones you're doing now are for xubuntu.org/tour [18:18] I updated the top one, waiting on firefox for the bottom one [18:19] and just updated xubuntu.org/about this morning [18:20] I'm going through the site and reporting bugs against other stuff we need to update so I don't lose track [18:22] lots of bugs, I hope ;-) [18:28] charlie-tca: yes, and some for you! xubuntu.org/contribute/qa_bugs_testing needs love :) [18:32] charlie-tca: I know qa_bugs_testing needs updating, when you have some time can you go through the rest of http://xubuntu.org/devel to see what else does? [19:04] okay [19:28] pleia2: ok, i just finished the ff-shot, here you go: http://imagebin.org/153721 [19:28] ochosi: thanks! [19:29] pleia2: btw, the about-screenshot is a bit lame with the virtualbox parts... ;) [19:29] you could send the original to me and i can remove that if you want [19:29] (or is it intentional?) [19:29] oops [19:29] * pleia2 fixes [19:31] charlie-tca: btw, suggestion for xubuntu+1 default install: https://code.google.com/p/touchegg/ [19:31] (kubuntu are doing it as well, i think the move makes sense) [19:33] ochosi, have you tried that yourself? [19:33] knome: yes [19:33] okay [19:33] with an apple trackpad [19:33] * ochosi hides [19:33] ochosi: kubuntu will look at it because it is using QT - Touchégg is a multi-touch gestures recognizer written in C + + using the Qt 4 and utouch-geis. [19:34] We do not have QT installed by default, and it does increase the size of things considerably [19:34] right, didn't think of that [19:34] i guess when i installed it i already had qt [19:34] so i didn't notice [19:34] it is a good fit for KDE [19:35] well anyway, i think xfce/xubuntu could be a bit better with touchpad configuration [19:35] atm it's really very basic [19:35] disclaimer: charlie-tca will be testing kubuntu accessibility this cycle [19:35] agreed, we could stand to be better, but not through QT [19:35] https://www-admin.xubuntu.org/tour done \o/ [19:35] err [19:35] xubuntu.org/tour :) [19:36] charlie-tca: nice, this way we can compare their accessibility to ours [19:36] Theirs is not quite as good as what we don't have [19:36] you speak in miracles, charlie-tca [19:37] pleia2, nice screenshots! :) [19:37] Xfce 4.10 will include accessibility [19:37] well done pleia2 [19:37] for now, we use gnome stuff [19:37] k, get what you mean now [19:37] well, it'll be a while till xfce 4.10 i guess... [19:37] I would like to see at-registryd installed by default, so that the other accessibility that relies on it will just work, though [19:38] unless the latest cycle has changed their release policy [19:38] yup [19:38] we are looking at maybe 12.04 for 4.10 [19:38] would be nice, since it's the next lts if i'm not mistaken [19:39] yeah, which means three years without 4.10 if it doesn't make it [19:40] ochosi: thanks for looking out for better accessibility stuff. [19:42] pleia2, as it seems like it's going to take a while before we get the staging site, would you be ready to work with me to integrate the new logo into the xubuntu site? [19:42] knome: yep, but I want it to be as little work as possible :) [19:42] if we can just swap out the logo that'd be nice [19:42] pleia2, i think we could drop the curve on the white area, and also get rid of the top baby blue bar [19:42] charlie-tca: sure, np. maybe we can still find some solution for touchpads or whatever. i also hope to be able to improve greybird and make it even more accessible [19:43] We just have to keep looking. We can find something, I am sure. [19:43] knome, pleia2: having something like the ubiquity installer slideshow on the frontpage, is that for after the wordpress migration? [19:43] ochosi, yeah. [19:44] knome: the drupal theme code is at lp:xubuntu-website and that can just be pushed when we are ready (I just nudge cody) [19:44] okay... [19:44] ugh :) [19:44] i didn't want to hear that, but okay [19:45] knome: we might just have to suffice with updating https://www-admin.xubuntu.org/themes/xubuntu810/img/xubuntu_logo_slogan.png [19:45] bbl [19:45] the curve remains, but we can at least get the logo sorted [19:46] well... [19:46] while i'm on that, i'd rather just drop the curve really [19:46] it just seems that dropping the curve is going to require a lot more work [19:46] of course, but it's still not massive, really :) [19:46] there's no more work for you [19:47] i'll edit the css with web dev extension [19:47] so i can make sure it works [19:47] ok [19:47] do we want to keep the slogan? [19:47] I don't think so [19:47] okay [23:58] ugh oh. [23:59] my xfce4-settings-helper on my maverick laptop dies horribly with _chunk(): invalid pointer [23:59] : - (