[00:05] hi, everybody, how can i format usb flash drive in a simple way? [00:05] i have xubuntu 11.04 [00:07] I use gparted to format my drives. [00:08] I don't know many GNOME libraries that pulls in, though. [00:09] alright, i'll try this one. second question - is indicator applet a default part of indicator applet or it's an ubuntu addition? i have two sound controls in upper part of screen and it annoys me very much. [00:09] part of xfce* [00:13] hmm. now that you mention it, I've got 2 sound controls, too. [00:15] sorry :-D [00:16] But I'm running Lucid still, so I don't think I have the indicator applet. [00:16] :-) [00:16] the indicator applet is the one that has the little envelope? [00:17] yup, this one [00:17] anyway, is it possible to get rid of indicator applet and transfer it's contents to systray? [00:17] I found it annoying so I removed it [00:17] then added the volume control icon alone [00:17] and when restarted, the connection icon reappeared [00:18] it all looks "normal" now lol [00:18] mmm, might be a good idea. [00:18] thanks [00:18] lamraish and kupfer: Menu>Settings>Settings Manager>Session and Startup>Application Autostart>Volume Control (not xfce Volume Daemon)...uncheck this and the non-indicator-plugin volume control will not be there on a restartX/reboot [00:19] Guest80839, thank ya so lot :-) [00:19] Guest80839: thanks [00:20] AS far as I know, you can't get tid of the indicator-plugin one w/o getting rid of the indicator-plugin [00:21] ok [00:25] I thought if I removed the indicator plugin I was not going to be able to control the volume or see my connection status because those 2 icons are together with the envelope one [00:26] but it turned out I could remove it without much problem [00:26] I'm talking about natty === drc is now known as Guest22086 === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [02:02] test [02:18] Hi! I can't get mic to work with Xubuntu 11.04, anyone experienced something similar? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [03:54] hello, I will be trying Xubuntu for the first time today [03:55] my question is which iso to choose for my Core i7 920? [04:00] jerry: 64-bit [04:00] xubuntu-11.04-alternate-amd64.iso or xubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso? [04:01] jerry: the second is a LiveCD with a graphical user interface installer. the first is not a liveCD and uses a text installer. use whichever you want. [04:01] will I have any problems with my Intel? [04:02] no [04:02] ok ty [04:03] was just wondering why it had 'AMD' in the name [04:03] kinda misleading [04:04] because AMD invented the specification [04:05] yeh, but Joe average wouldn't know that [04:05] I guess one of the many obstacles for distros to overcome for a wider acceptance [04:06] Joe average doesn't know what an architecture is, hence us recommending on download page that they just use 32-bit. [04:06] which is itself imprecise language for i586 [04:06] erm, i686 now? I forget. [04:07] so much terminology, so little understanding lol [04:07] I think it is i686 [04:08] Im assuming I can use the start up usb creator in Ubuntu to make my usb bootable Xubuntu? [04:09] yes [04:09] sweet [04:09] assuming you get desktop not alternate, anyway [04:09] ok [04:21] Where does XFCE store default panel information? [04:32] jgould: I take it your not talking config? [04:33] Nope. Fresh install of Xubuntu Natty, my panels are all screwed up [04:33] There we go. Dumped the ~/.config directory [04:34] works every time ;) [04:34] I was deleting random . stuff that was related to X or gnome... [04:34] That will mess with your bottom one (If it worked in the first place...) [04:34] Nope [05:32] so the left super key triggers different things that the right super key? [05:33] how do i bind the other super key to xfce4-popup-menu? [05:34] oh, there is super_L and super_R, who knew! [05:35] :D awesome now both super key trigger the xfce menu === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [08:00] have problem with keyboard layout it no remember value Alt+Shift [08:27] Hello, I've deleted my wireless applet because I was silly and I've tried adding just about every obvious available applet on the list and I cannot get it back. I am however still getting notifications about wireless events [08:27] I'm running natty with the xfce desktop installed post installation [08:28] Any tips on how to locate my applet again would be really helpful [08:38] pomke: tried apt-cache search xfce4-panel in a terminal to see if it shows? [08:57] gr8m8: I didn't uninstall it, I just right-clicked the applet and clicked remove [08:59] pomke: since it is so hard to find are you sure removing it didn't uninstall it? you could at least find the name of it with the above command [09:01] The above command returns xfce4-messenger-plugin, xfce4-notes-plugin, xfce4-panel (-dbg, -dev) and xfce4-smartpm-plugin [09:02] pomke: I don't do wireless at all - it was a panel applet? [09:04] when I first launched xfce there was a wireless icon, a battery icon and two volume icons, I tried removing the duplicate volume icon and my wireless icon vanished with it, I thought at first I had removed my notification applet [09:04] but I still have one of those, so I'm unsure if the wireless icon was an app with a notification icon that just never came back, or if it was its own applet [09:05] I'm guessing it was whatever the ubuntu default networking applet is, for managing wired and wireless connections [09:05] I'm sort of new to XFCE, I've just installed it recently fleeing the unity/gnome3 catastrophe [09:06] afaik that is network-manager - I run very minimal installs so bother with such things [09:07] *so don't [09:09] dpkg -L network-manager-gnome says I have an nm-applet [09:10] hmm which when i run exists after saying it is already running [09:10] gr8m8: thank you :) I've at least got a lead now I can investigate [09:27] pomke: if you have notification area and/or indicator applet, it should be there on next login [09:28] Sysi: I have both of those, and after rebooting it does not reappear [09:30] possibly problem with icon- or gtk-theme [09:33] oh the theme I have might just not have an icon for it? [09:33] * pomke tries a different theme [09:37] /exit [09:38] if that happens, it should just fallback to icon in tango or gnome-icon themes [09:44] Changing icons didn't make the wireless applet appear [09:45] try gtk-theme [09:53] Sysi: do you mean Settings Manager > Appearance > Style tab ? [09:53] i guess [09:53] I think that is gtk theme? [09:55] That didn't help, its ok I'll just run iwconfig from the command line I guess [10:26] hi [10:29] hi everybody [10:29] hey [10:30] can somebody help me with an Firefox 4.01 issues with regard to deinstalling addon [10:30] which in the addon-section is "greyed-out" [10:30] profus2, how did you install the addon? [10:31] if i log in a a user with no admin rights i can't update, remove etc [10:31] i deinstalled the addon via software center, but i still sits in the addon panel [10:32] can i manually delet it and if so, where do the files reside? [10:33] profus2, ~/.mozilla/firefox-4.0/ [10:34] is this under the root? [10:35] and where are the profiles? [10:35] ~ is your home folder [10:35] oh [10:37] is it a hidden folder? [10:37] yes, anything starting with a . is hidden by default [10:37] in thunar, press ctrl+h to hide/show hidden files [10:40] if this is standard for ubuntu distros, i dot find any mozialla folder under /home [10:40] :-( [10:40] /home/yourusername/ [10:41] yes, its /home/yourusername/ [10:41] /home/yourusername/.mozilla/ ... ? [10:41] then you have: picturs, bin, desktop and so on [10:41] ls -a | grep mozilla [10:42] moi Sysi [10:42] ok, sorry [10:42] after unhiding I can see the folder now [10:42] yello [10:50] @knome, thx for your help and have a nice day [10:52] profus2, no problem, you too [11:15] ripping music [11:44] Sysi, you bought a cd? :) [11:46] evening all [11:50] knome: half a dozen from library [11:55] Sysi, awwh [11:56] when i try to buy music they never have what i'd want [11:58] you use private bittorrent trackers Sysi ? [11:59] nope, ubuntu channels are law-respecting [12:12] Sysi, maybe try amazon? :) [12:12] Sysi, cheaper prices and better selection [12:13] anyway, bbl [14:09] hi, is there a way to install xubuntu in a 4Gb HDD? During install halts saying that 4.4Gb is needed, but maybe deselecting some components it can still work [14:10] oekintaro: you can install a command line system and then install the things you need with apt-get [14:11] will try that then, tnx [14:37] Hi. Is there a way to fit a xubuntu install in a 3.5gb hard drive? [14:38] Peloncho: you might have to get rid of some stuff, maybe it's easier to do a minimal install and then add things until the drive is full [14:38] Peloncho: you can install a command-line system and then add the programs you need with apt-get [14:38] :) [14:39] the problem is that this is my first ever linux intall, and i'm not familiar with what I want XD [14:39] so don't know what options are system dependant [14:39] and what only optional [14:40] I know I want a graphic environment like the one i'm writing right now (live boot from the install cd) [14:40] but the installation halts, saying that I don't have 4.4Gb of free space [14:40] even tho in the reqs in the donwload page, said 2Gb [14:42] http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090504 [14:42] the download page is wrong then [14:43] Peloncho: where is that written, so that we can fix it? [14:43] xubuntu.org/get [14:43] minum system requirements [14:43] 256mb ram [14:43] 2gb hdd [14:45] i think going for the minimal install is the best option you have (or try to find a distro with less requirements, or get a larger hdd) [14:45] how much ram btw? [14:45] i downloaded mini.iso but it wont boot. Just got me to a blank page [14:46] nor puppy, nor vector [14:46] only thing that seems to boot this machine are ubuntu and xubuntu install cds [14:46] (its a really old pc I want to test a project on) [14:47] in fact, the only thing besides thunderbird that this machine is ever to run is x-dnc [14:47] but for only running thunderbird xubuntu is really a bit overkill [14:48] i'd take a more minimal desktop and i guess also a more individual setup [14:48] what do you recommend? in the minimal approach? [14:48] (on the other hand, you said it's your first linux install, sorry kinda forgot that...) [14:48] thats the main problem here [14:48] hmm, the link TheSheep gave you is not the worst [14:48] it shows you how to do a minimal install [14:48] with xubuntu [14:49] it's pretty straight-forward [14:49] ochosi: it wasn't me [14:50] *cough* [14:50] or you could try lubuntu [14:51] there, I opened the link in a notebook, so now I'm going to try that way. Will bother you later probably [14:52] thank you all very much [15:03] How can I dual screen in Xubuntu? I have a cloned display but I don't have "extended" display options in "Display" of the settings manager. Any ideas? [15:05] install arandr [15:05] it uh.. doesn't support it ootb? [15:05] it supports, there just isn't capable GUI for setting it [15:06] xrandr works [15:06] well, that's a little strange [15:06] you'd think it'd be here out of box [15:07] also, when I plug in my flash drive in xfce, it opens thunar about 900000000000000 times. it's done this on two laptops. but if I go in under unity, it's fine... [15:07] any thoughts? [15:07] also, arandr isn't opening... [15:09] start it in terminal and see if it gives errors [15:09] oh, its xrandr, not arandr [15:09] xrandr comes up as multiple screens in the menu [15:10] that works fine [15:10] arandr doesnt do a thing [15:10] ..arandr is GUI for xrandr [15:10] arandr wouldn't open from the menu [15:10] for that U3 drive, change settings for removable devices [15:10] but if I went to "multiple screens" under system, it worked fine [15:10] is multiple screens NOT xrandr? [15:11] in xfce4-settings-manager or "Advanced" tab in file manager settings [15:12] yeah, were good now [15:12] just unchecked browse automatically [15:12] is there a way to configure touchpad options? [15:13] use gpointing-device-settings or xinput or something, something in mouse settings too [15:18] ok [15:18] does xubuntu use gdm? [15:18] yes [15:19] *sigh* that's unfortunate [15:22] everything uses gtk right? [15:22] yes [15:23] cool. i'm not as familiar with gtk3. will xfce be using that soon? [15:23] probably not, #xfce would be a better place to ask that [15:24] ok. thanks [15:33] any way to get that fancy window snapping stuff? [15:34] jmcantrell: in window manager tweaks, third tab afair [15:36] hmmm. what i'm talking about is where you drag it to one side of the screen and it fills up that half [15:36] jmcantrell: no, sorry, window manager settings, fourth tab [15:36] jmcantrell: no, there is no such thing [15:37] jmcantrell: just snapping to screen edges and other windows [15:37] ok [15:48] hello, I'm in xubuntu right now from a live cd. I want to install but when i get to the part in the dialog that tells me to allocate drive space, I see a full partition (windows) that i can't resize in order to make a dual boot. my only optins are new partition tale change and delet. how do i make anew partition to dual boot? [15:51] hello every one [15:52] btw I did read the ubuntu docs about dual booting, but it semed to be kinda vague [15:53] im in need of some help here [15:53] any one up for it? [15:57] how to mount a 2nd hard drive [16:04] !mount [16:04] mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount [16:21] i'll ask in #ubuntu, thanks [16:35] i installed the .deb package for android appinventor as described at http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/learn/setup/setuplinux.html , but i can't find any launcher in the menu, and when i browse the files in dolphin at usr/google/appinventor-setup , i can't find a file to run the app -- any ideas? [16:35] !dualboot [16:35] Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [16:47] i installed the .deb package for android appinventor as described at http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/learn/setup/setuplinux.html , but i can't find any launcher in the menu, and when i browse the files in dolphin at usr/google/appinventor-setup , i can't find a file to run the app -- any ideas? [16:49] mikubuntu: 1) Dolphin is a KDE file manager, why are you asking in #xubuntu?; 2) Is there i use dolphin in my ubuntu os, nobody ever told me it was a kubuntu package -- seems to work well. i will check the other leads you gave me. yes the files seem to be in usr/google/appinventor-setup , but i guess i don't know which one runs the program. [17:05] dOH! :: "I downloaded the App Inventor Setup Installer and ran it, but the designer doesn’t start up and I don’t see any program to run to start it. It’s not supposed to start. App Inventor is a Web application that runs from a browser. You run it by browsing to the App Inventor website (http://appinventor.googlelabs.com), as described in the documentation under Getting Started. The App Inventor Setup Installer software is s [17:06] drc, thx, i hadn''t seen the link to the troubleshooting page, it was kind of lost at the bottom [17:07] mikubuntu: np :) [17:23] Is there a way I can set a simple command to run upon system boot and poweroff? [17:25] yes [17:26] roasted: you want a shutdown right after booting? [17:26] no [17:26] I want a way to run a script at shutdown AND startp [17:26] user starts up system, command executes [17:26] user turns off, command executes during poweroff [17:29] roasted: Are these going to be actual on and off or just a logon/off by the user (I seem to remember you work for a school system, and was wondering if the machines are left on and the new user just logs on)? [17:29] drc, haha good memory my friend. yes I work for a school district, but this wasn't exactly pertaining to a situation at school at the teachers level. [17:29] drc, it's something at work but unrelated. [17:29] drc, I'm testing out some rsync gui applications, and I found grsync to be very effective. problem is, it has no run at shudown option. [17:30] but I can run grsync -e "session name" in terminal and it runs [17:30] so I thought, well, if I can get the system to execute this @ power off, it would sync to the NAS accordingly as it powers off [17:30] my session name is tonas, so I need to find a way for ubuntu to run grsync -e tonas when it powers off [17:30] or logs off, whichever [17:31] roasted: I know I've teased you before about your questions, but I actually learn something every time you ask one :) [17:31] drc, hahahah, that's the way to go! [17:32] I'm testing gnome scheduler now [17:32] I set it to run grsync -e tonas at reboot [17:33] and it of course didnt work :P [17:33] not sure I trust this gnome scheduler [17:34] roasted: Hope you get an answer (but it won't be from me, because I'm totally ignorant about this) [17:34] I think it might have to be an upstart script, since it has to know when reboot or shutdown or logout commands are given [17:35] I don't know how to do it, but you will need it to grab those commands and execute before allowing them to shutdown networking [17:37] roasted: In that case, you might want to try #upstart. [17:37] hmm [17:37] rc.local didn't do a thing [17:37] sigh [17:37] this is one area I wish it was as easy as windows. and I don't say that often [17:37] syncback se - bam - amazing sync program, supports all sorts of protocols [17:38] WHERE IS IT FOR LINUX?! [17:39] rdiff or duplicity or rsync or ... [17:39] roasted: http://alternativeto.net/software/syncback/?platform=linux [17:39] oops [17:39] rdiff-backup [17:39] maybe even deja-dup [17:41] deja dup looks interesting... [17:41] never heard of it... [17:41] iirc crontab can handle startup&shutdown scripts [17:44] meh [17:44] its failing on me [17:45] oh. I suck. [17:46] deja dup backs the files up in a compressed manner [17:46] not a raw data manner [17:48] wow this works nice though... [18:05] Hy all [18:06] I have a problem with the touchpad scroller with the new update 11.04, i am the only one having it? It totally doesnt work. Thanks in advance for your help :) [18:06] touchpad scroller? sounds hardware specific [18:07] i have a aspire one d260 [18:07] if it helps [18:08] andre_: http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-773160%5D-%5Bnew%5D-ubuntu-11-04-touchpad-scrolling-doesnt-work-144561/ [18:09] andre_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/737051 [18:09] Ubuntu bug 737051 in linux (Ubuntu) "[regression] Alps touchpad detected, but scrolling not working" [Undecided,Confirmed] [18:10] drc, ok, thanks, i'll try something :) [18:13] fixed using the 2 cmds in the post #2 of the 2nd link. thanks for your help :) [18:14] andre_: np [18:21] Has anyone had any problems with skype freezing their session completely forcing a hardboot? [18:22] bin_bash: This still related to your 2 camera skype problem? [18:22] now it just happens randomly [18:23] Also, I can kind of tell when it's going to happen because skype will randomly start disconnecting and then reconnecting [18:23] I get the spinning grey icon in the menubar [18:24] Also skype is randomly crashing itself. And I mean random. I'll just be going to the options, and it'll close [18:25] propietary software.. [18:26] problem is i need skype [18:26] :( [18:27] bin_bash: Get a BF closer to you :) [18:27] ha.ha. [18:28] hmmm [18:28] when someone logs onto pidgin the sounds arent working [18:29] bin_bash: Check the prefs, Works For Me (tm) :) [18:29] already did [18:29] sounds aren't muted [18:29] when i hit the preview button doesn't even register in pavucontrol [18:30] Funny Thing...I just now got the sound when my sister came online...coincidence? :) [18:31] weird [18:31] i changed it from auto to alsa and it worked [18:31] check the "Method" [18:31] :) [18:31] *sigh* [18:31] i miss the days of 6 months ago when linux just worked [18:31] yup [18:32] whenever I have to hard boot, like half of my preferences are forgotten [18:32] Luckily for me, my system "just works" in spite of all I do th mess it up [18:33] that is lucky [18:33] I'm thinking about compiling the new kernel and seeing if that helps [18:34] Lucky and Foresight...I bought a laptop that had Ubuntu pre-installed, so I the hardware would work....and I don't try anything fancy with my configs :) [18:34] Yeah... I got this computer as a free replacement [18:34] the Mac? [18:35] yep [18:59] is there a way to force evince to open fullscreen instead of windowed mode? [19:09] Soupermanito: I can't find one to make it the default, but, iirc, "by document", it will default to the last used (F5 or f11) for that document. [19:11] oh, i see that, it will remember for documents i already opened [19:12] yup [19:12] but i do have to work whit lots of pdf's and its anoying having to move them back to the screen, they will open on the half part of the screen, wait lemme show you a screensho [19:14] Soupermanito: You might try some of the other pdf readers and see what they have for defaults. I rarely use pdf, except for a few books that are better dome in pdf (photo and computer books, mainly) [19:14] :) [19:16] im a library science student, so im reading, well not reading reading, just like parsing XD, books and scientific magazines all the time, and its good to have options, like rotate and other stuff, other pdf readers are or too simple, or not gtk [19:16] evince seems to do things rigth, but its anying how it gets outside the screen [19:17] aparently if i close the windows on windowed mode, it will open the new ones on windowed mode [19:19] Soupermanito: On my system, it will always open a pdf in windowed mode...only pdf's I have opened before will default to the last know mode for document. [19:21] close the last open pdf on the maxed out mode, and then open a new one [19:22] I have [19:22] mmm [19:22] weird is just me them [19:23] Well...we all have suspected that for a while ;) [19:24] i think i know what it is, its the stored last view inside the same pdf [20:31] dont like unity - tried kubuntu just too much "fluff" for me---so tried xubuntu and its like the perfect thing since sliced bread-) [20:32] :D [20:32] less is more [20:32] welcome brother [20:32] its unbelievably fast on my end [20:33] :D [20:33] thats on virtual box even---fixing to do a regular install [20:34] i tried lxde [20:34] but i was having problems with the panels [20:34] I'm thinking of downgrading to maverick [20:34] or trying mint10 [20:37] i used mint for several months i only left because of the terribaly slow servers when updating & package instlling (on my end anyway) only 1 usa server when i used it [20:37] is there a way to disable the touchpad while tuping [20:38] hi everybody [20:38] may I bother you with my little firefox addon problem [20:39] ? [20:39] the profile I am working with has no admin rights and the addon cannot be removed or updated [20:39] gksudo firefox? [20:39] what addon? [20:39] adblock plus [20:39] Soupermanito: that sounds really bad idea [20:40] indeed [20:40] it really does [20:40] sudo chown -R youruser:youruser /home/youruser [20:40] with programs closed, possibly on other user [20:41] bin_bash i dont know if this will help http://justcheckingonall.wordpress.com/2011/05/10/disable-touchpad-linux/ [20:41] the other profile with admin rights has the current version of the addon installed [20:42] i thought i could delet the addon manually, so i tried to find [20:42] it [20:43] but with no success [20:43] even "admin" can't install it globally from browser [20:44] profus2, do firefox -P [20:44] @sysi: if it is deleted in the admins profile, does this mean it will be removed at a normal users profile [20:44] (why would anybody want to remove adblock) [20:44] profus2: not [20:44] (have no idea) [20:45] @sysi: the version of the addon in the "normal users" profile is outdated while the addon in the "admin profile" is up to date [20:45] i would like to continue using the addon [20:46] please don't use @ in front of nicks [20:46] ok [20:46] do you get some error when trying to remove it? [20:46] try the chmod-line i gave [20:46] profus2, on your /home/you/.mozilla/firefox [20:46] is your .profile blocked? [20:47] what do mean by blocked? [20:47] on a file level i can enter /home/me/.mozilla/firefox [20:47] i went to the profile folder an looked for extensions [20:48] if i open the extensions folder there is no content [20:48] i don't know profus2 try the chmod Sysi gave you [20:49] what will it do? [20:50] and do i have to perform it in the terminal after having closed firefox? [20:50] yes [20:51]