[00:20] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Has to be updated in oneiric first.
[00:21] <ScottK> shadeslayer: We don't backport from random PPAs.
[00:44] <apachelogger> ScottK: should you get bored http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/kubuntu-11-10-sneak-peak/#comment-1190
[00:45] <apachelogger> oh
[00:45] <apachelogger> good that you mention kamoso
[00:45]  * apachelogger had to install dput and forget all about it
[00:46] <apachelogger> ScottK:   Uploading kamoso_2.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.
[00:46] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages
[00:46] <ScottK> ok.  Thanks
[00:46] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I need to know what the diff from oneiric will be.  Hopefully just a changelog entry.
[00:48] <ScottK> apachelogger: It wasn't my action to investigate backup alternatives.
[00:48] <DarkwingDuck> Does anyone know where you can find the logo for Oneiric?
[00:48] <apachelogger> ScottK: no, but the other pile of crapz you might have a comment on
[00:48] <DarkwingDuck> Like, Natty has this cool cirle with the whale tail
[00:48] <apachelogger> Quintasan_, afiestas: reminder for plasma active in project neon
[00:49] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: must be somewhere, since they had it on tshirts, maybe ask someone from the youbuntoo design team
[00:50] <afiestas> this weekend I have akademy-es so I won't be available until next weekend
[00:50] <ScottK> apachelogger: WTF how many Kubuntu devs who can write upstream KDE code does he think we have ....
[00:50] <ScottK> apachelogger: Something like that?
[00:50] <apachelogger> more like "idle" devs
[00:50] <ScottK> That's easy.
[00:50] <ScottK> One.
[00:50] <ScottK> shadeslayer: 
[00:51] <apachelogger> ScottK: don't make it sound like we have problems with our developer supply :P
[00:51] <apachelogger> rolf
[00:51] <apachelogger> poor shadeslayer
[00:51] <apachelogger> he packaged kamoso today
[00:51] <maco> i propose one of the Kontact .desktop files gets a rename
[00:51] <apachelogger> so I know he was not idle for 5 minutes
[00:51] <apachelogger> that must count for something
[00:51] <ScottK> apachelogger: Must be the one day a year with no exams.
[00:51] <maco> bloody annoying typing in "kontact" and getting 2 and trying to guess which (and inevitably getting it wrong)
[00:52] <ScottK> What's the other one do?
[00:52] <apachelogger> ScottK: lol
[00:52] <maco> ScottK: it's a KCM afaict
[00:52] <maco> but the menu entry when you search is just named "Kontact"
[00:52] <apachelogger> oh yeah
[00:52] <ScottK> maco: OK.  You should convince steveire to fix that for you upstream.
[00:53] <apachelogger> that is ewww
[00:53] <maco> if youre on plasma desktop, there's text underneath that says "default kde kontact component" and if you're on netbook...not so much
[00:53] <apachelogger> netbook is broken
[00:53] <maco> i think in 10.10 the underneath text was more ambiguous though
[00:53] <apachelogger> maco: krunner should give default choice to kontact I believe
[00:54] <afiestas> xDDDD
[00:54] <maco> apachelogger: i was looking in the launchers
[00:54] <afiestas> Quintasan_: Why you have the fucking habit of cutting my sentences
[00:54] <maco> kicker...i think...dang im forgetting stuff
[00:54] <afiestas> xDDDD
[00:54] <maco> kickoff!
[00:54] <apachelogger> afiestas: lol :D
[00:54] <apachelogger> epic
[00:54]  * apachelogger should blog about shit people have been pulling off at UDS
[00:55] <apachelogger> like pulling a rodrigo, while we are talking about pulling :P
[00:55] <afiestas> today I pulled a 3h rodrigo xD
[00:55] <afiestas> is almost my record
[00:55] <afiestas> xd
[00:55]  * apachelogger should do that too some day
[00:55] <ScottK> This reminds me of a book I learned about today: http://www.amazon.com/Go-F-Sleep-Adam-Mansbach/dp/1617750255/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1305676519&sr=1-1
[00:55] <jjesse_> love that book
[00:56] <jjesse_> actually saw a pirated version off this
[00:56] <apachelogger> with arrrm on it?
[00:56]  * apachelogger giggles away
[00:56] <jjesse_> totally
[00:57] <apachelogger> gee, 2am and  I gotta do university project all day starting at 800
[00:57] <apachelogger> madness
[00:57] <apachelogger> this like uds all over again
[00:57] <apachelogger> only with more powerpoint work \o/
[01:17]  * apachelogger throws away the embedded sneak peak blog post draft and will start from scratch tomorrow
[01:17] <apachelogger> for some reason I have the urge to make it super spicy
[01:17] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[01:20]  * ScottK pokes https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/multimedia-desktop-n-xorg-multihead-defaults at afiestas.
[01:21]  * afiestas knows about it
[01:22] <afiestas> I will finish my "next 2 months" KDE working plan within this week
[01:22] <afiestas> I'm not sure if I will work on XRandR at all, or if I will work only in that
[01:23] <apachelogger> if only we had someone who can find people to make things happen
[01:24] <afiestas> apachelogger: you've found d_ed :p
[01:25] <ScottK> apachelogger: You better hurry up.  Apparently maco has recruited her own minion.  One that might actually do stuff.
[01:26]  * apachelogger had enough minions for a life time, what is left to do is make them find minions
[01:26] <apachelogger> ScottK: maybe shadeslayer likes being a minion *shrug*
[01:26] <afiestas> apachelogger: tell me that you got the workd "minion" from the last chapter of doctor-who...
[01:26] <apachelogger> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Development#Kubuntu Ninja Dojo
[01:26] <afiestas> I saw it yesterday xd
[01:27] <maco> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFAhVyyL3SU 
[01:27]  * apachelogger giggles away from 3. item on the career list
[01:28] <apachelogger> afiestas: who'd know
[01:28] <apachelogger> time is relative
[01:29] <apachelogger> maco: le silly
[01:29] <apachelogger> love it
[01:29] <maco> apachelogger: Dr Horrible
[01:30]  * DarkwingDuck starts uilding some Kubuntu graphics.
[01:31] <apachelogger> emit yawn(LionYawn);
[01:31] <apachelogger> this->sleep();
[02:25] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, i think i'm going to go pick up a graphics tablet
[02:26] <DarkwingDuck> This is getting annoying with a mouse
[03:07] <DarkwingDuck> Who do we have doing Kubuntu Graphics?
[03:09] <c2tarun> my task panel is freezing after every minute for few seconds (around 20 sec), this started esp when I upgrade to 4.6.3. its very frustating, because I am not able to start any app, switch between applications and any other job. can anyone please tell my why am I facing this problem?
[05:32] <yofel> DarkwingDuck: artwork? sheytan mostly
[06:13] <DarkwingDuck> yofel: Opinion... Does this http://imm.io/5JbR look like this banner http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevi55/5705047100/sizes/l/in/photostream/ minus the stuff at the bottom? 
[06:17] <DarkwingDuck> Or, anyone at that 
[06:31] <yofel> Close enough IMO
[06:35] <DarkwingDuck> http://imm.io/5JcG
[06:35] <DarkwingDuck> Kubuntu version
[06:47] <yofel> :D
[06:50] <DarkwingDuck> I'm going to be doing TONS with Kubuntu logo work tonight. 
[06:50] <DarkwingDuck> black and white, white on blue, blue on white
[06:51] <DarkwingDuck> Oneiric logos ect
[07:45] <eMyller> 'lo again
[07:45] <eMyller> what was that plasma widget that looked like ubuntu's app launcher?
[10:08] <agateau> hey, do we have a PPA tracking latest Qt software? (both the libraries and Qt Creator)
[10:13] <agateau> apachelogger: hi, any idea on this ^?
[10:13] <apachelogger> no we do not
[10:14] <apachelogger> though maybe we should
[10:16] <jussi> neon?
[10:31] <steveire> maco: ScottK I probably have to wait until after string freeze to fix that
[11:07] <agateau> apachelogger: ok thanks
[11:20] <valorie> nice work, darkwing duck
[11:20]  * valorie goes to bed; nighters all
[11:22] <QuintasanDroid> hmmm
[11:22] <QuintasanDroid> are there any GCC armel binaries?
[11:23] <QuintasanDroid> as in I want to compile stuff on my phone :p
[11:28] <didrocks> agateau: Qtcreator will come in oneiric today/tomorrow (coordinating with the dd)
[11:29] <agateau> didrocks: wasn't it already in Ubuntu?
[11:29] <didrocks> agateau: I'm speaking of 2.2
[11:29] <agateau> didrocks: oh ok, good!
[11:29] <didrocks> hopefully with the "design" option enabled (it should have been in 2.1 already…)
[11:35] <debfx> didrocks: I'm not sure we want to maintain a private qt header package
[11:37] <didrocks> debfx: oh, you're around, nice, do you have more info about that issue? I didn't spend time looking at it very closing TBH
[11:37] <didrocks> closely*
[11:38] <didrocks> so, input from someone already maintaining this will be really appreciated :)
[11:38] <debfx> it needs private qt headers which change with every (minor) upstream version and potentially with every patch
[11:39] <didrocks> but qtdesigner is part of qtcreator as well, isn't it? so they should mostly be in synced?
[11:40] <didrocks> or those private qt headers are in another package?
[11:40] <debfx> they are in the qt4-x11 package
[11:42] <didrocks> debfx: hum, I can see the concern then :/ this component is still a huge benefit for people waiting to create qt/qml applications, can we try to give a test and see how stable/unstable/additional maintainance cost is involved?
[11:42] <didrocks> debfx: as well, is this definied on some wiki/how-to page? I found little info on this
[11:45] <debfx> didrocks: I think it's documented in a README
[11:45] <debfx> didrocks: have you talked to fabo about it?
[11:45] <didrocks> debfx: let me see if I wasn't awaken enough
[11:46] <didrocks> debfx: yeah, he wanted to fix a FTBFS on one more arch before we have a deeper look at it first (he wasn't aware about this, apparently)
[11:50] <didrocks> debfx: ok, so basically, we can either build with -developer-build so that it can finds the header or define QT_PRIVATE_HEADERS manually if we want to give that a try
[11:55] <debfx> the question is how do we make sure that qtcreator doesn't crash when the private abi changes
[11:56] <didrocks> debfx: right, it's approximately the same issue than with metacity-private and compiz/mutter, I'll discuss that with fabo and we can maybe see how stable/unstable it is
[11:56] <debfx> we could add a qt-private-abi-X virtual package and bump it whenever the abi changes
[11:57] <didrocks> hum, yeah, that would be something similar to compiz and its plugins
[11:57] <didrocks> like a provide
[11:57] <didrocks> and make qtcreator depending on this virtual package
[11:59] <debfx> yeah, it's much work for just one package that needs it though
[12:01] <didrocks> did you check the ABI for the previous release? did it break often?
[12:01] <didrocks> for metacity, we handle the breaks: manually as it happened twice in the last couple of year
[12:08] <debfx> didrocks: I expect that every minor version changes the private headers but no idea if they are BIC
[12:10] <didrocks> debfx: yeah, as I think the Qt guys really want to promote QtDesigner from now on (from what I understood), we can maybe discuss about that with them, and maybe make a test in parallel for oneiric, looking if it's breaking a lot or not. I'll talk about it with fabo if you want and will come back to you
[12:18] <yofel> jussi: neon uses kde-qt, which is even older than what we have in the archive currently. We had the discussion once, and no, we won't maintain any other Qt/qtcreator builds
[12:50] <rbelem__> apachelogger: ping
[12:53] <rbelem__> apachelogger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TabletList
[13:54] <ScottK> steveire: If you could fix it in a branch somewhere we could (perhaps) fix it in a distro patch that could just be dropped with the next release.
[13:54] <ScottK> steveire: Speaking of which, will there be a kdepim 4.7?
[13:56] <ScottK> agateau: Any luck on the Qt memleak SRU verification?
[13:57] <agateau> ScottK: sent a message asking for testers on ayatana-dev@, not much feedback yet :/
[13:58] <ScottK> OK.  We've another SRU pending, so it'd be good to get this one out of the way and not entangle the verification.
[14:00] <apachelogger> rbelem: archos 101it
[14:00] <apachelogger> unlocked bootloader that has
[14:00] <apachelogger> rbelem: what is selected for?
[14:09] <apachelogger> wiki--
[14:09] <apachelogger> wiki--
[14:09] <apachelogger> wiki--
[14:09] <apachelogger> wiki--
[14:09] <apachelogger> wiki--
[14:09] <jussi> apachelogger: ?
[14:10] <apachelogger> is is made out of the slow
[14:20] <steveire> ScottK: The intention is for KDE PIM to be part of the 4.7 release of the KDE application suite.
[14:20] <steveire> iow, back to business as usual.
[14:21] <ScottK> OK.  Cool.  So you'll have a string unfreeze between 4.6 and 4.7 where this change could get in.
[14:21] <ScottK> maco: ^^^ Makes you change quite doable with no distro patch for oneiric.
[14:23] <steveire> ScottK: Yes. Something like http://dpaste.com/543820/
[14:23] <steveire> Or Konact Configuration to be less technical
[14:23] <ScottK> That sounds better.
[14:24] <ScottK> maco: ^^^ Now's your chance for input.
[14:24]  * maco reads
[14:24] <steveire> But the real issue is that it shows up at all. It should be excluded from krunner somehow because it's pretty much just an implementation detail of kontact, and not useful to users
[14:24] <steveire> I don't know enough about desktop files to know how to fix that, but I can ask on a mailing list
[14:25] <apachelogger> nodisplay=true possibly
[14:25] <maco> oh hey they do both show in krunner. i just knew they both showed in kickoff and the plasma netbook launcher
[14:25] <maco> id go with "configuration" too
[14:27] <ScottK> steveire: Thanks for looking into it.
[14:28] <steveire> Ok, I've pushed the rename. Next I'll grab plasma peeps and find out how to exclude it
[14:32] <ScottK> Great.
[14:34] <steveire> apachelogger: Is there documentation of that somewhere?
[14:35] <maco> is 4.7 going to involve reimporting all my mail into akonadi?
[14:35] <maco> if so, i should go delete a LOT of stuff cuz downloading my mail into whatever the old format is takes > 24h
[14:38] <apachelogger> steveire: desktop entry spec
[14:38] <apachelogger> nodisplay should prevent it from appearing in guis, hidden is essentially like deleted and removes it from everywhere
[14:55] <steveire> Just like this: http://dpaste.com/543821/ It's odd that it's lowercase while everything is uppercase. I also can't find any existing users of it
[14:56] <steveire> Ah, I can find users of it. It's NoDisplay=true
[14:59] <Quintasan> afiestas: I accidentaly the whole timing of my statements
[14:59] <Quintasan> apachelogger: add it Todo
[14:59]  * Quintasan is going to have shitty two weeks since today
[14:59] <Quintasan> like
[15:00] <Quintasan> over 9000 tests and assignments since it is the end of school year
[15:08] <Quintasan> apachelogger: add it Todo as in add Plasma Active
[15:08] <Quintasan> since we need to win with DBus first
[15:10]  * Quintasan has to clear his all tests before any Kubuntu work is even considered
[15:10] <Quintasan> That said I'm off to learning
[15:11] <afiestas> Quintasan: be a good boy
[15:11] <afiestas> vodka does NOT help in the learning process, be careful with that xd
[16:16] <rbelem> apachelogger, i did not use the right word, select means that the device worth try to add support
[16:36] <Quintasan> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
[16:36]  * Quintasan lost his shuttlebus 4990 HUF receipt
[16:38] <ScottK> Get apachelogger to fax you a copy of his.
[16:38] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ^^
[17:01] <Quintasan> apachelogger: or wait, scan this if you can @_@
[17:01]  * Quintasan has no fax
[17:34] <Tm_T> agateau: what prequisites does plasma-widget-menubar have? I'm wondering what I'm missing with KDE trunk as the result is this (normal menu and then menubar has just file->close): http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/menubar1.png
[17:34] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: PINGS
[17:34] <agateau> Tm_T: did you build Qt yourself?
[17:35] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: PONGS
[17:35] <agateau> Tm_T: if so you may be missing the appmenu Qt patch
[17:35] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: do you have this 4990 HUF Shuttlebus receipt?
[17:36]  * Quintasan lost his
[17:36] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[17:36] <JontheEchidna> are they asking for it?
[17:36] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: got a scanner or something?
[17:36] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: yup
[17:36] <Tm_T> agateau: hmm, AFAIK no I should have Qt from 10.10
[17:37] <ScottK> Tm_T: Then it should just work.
[17:37] <Tm_T> that's what I'm thinking too, but alas it doesn
[17:37]  * ScottK used pw-mb a lot in plasma-netbook in 10.10.
[17:37] <JontheEchidna> huh, I don't think they actually asked for my taxi receipt last year
[17:38] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: wouldn't two people submitting the same receipt look suspicious?
[17:38] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: That's what gimp is for.
[17:38] <Quintasan> :O
[17:38] <JontheEchidna> lol
[17:38] <agateau> Tm_T: Qt from 10.10 comes with a bundled version of dbusmenu which won't work with latest plasma-widget-menubar
[17:38] <agateau> Tm_T: you want plasma-widget-menubar from 10.10 as well
[17:38] <Quintasan> I might cut it somewhere or make it look "used" :P
[17:38] <Tm_T> agateau: ah, thanks (:
[17:39] <Tm_T> agateau: so maybe it's time to upgrade this one too to natty (:
[17:39] <ScottK> agateau: BTW, my wife downloaded some photos/videos from her camera last night and showed me the video using gwenview.  I had no idea it could cope with this.  Very nice.
[17:39] <agateau> ScottK: heh :)
[17:39] <agateau> ScottK: thanks to Phonon magic, it can
[17:39] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ^^
[17:41] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: well, not sure if they will ask you about it
[17:41]  * Quintasan just had to lose the more expensive one
[17:41] <Tm_T> agateau: it's this one? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~agateau/plasma-widget-menubar/trunk/revision/87
[17:42] <agateau> Tm_T: that's the problem yes
[17:42] <Tm_T> agateau: so reverting that change should fix the problem for me?
[17:43] <Tm_T> as in, it shouldn't break anything
[17:43] <agateau> Tm_T: that's quite possible, but I haven't tested the result
[17:43] <bambee> evening
[17:43] <Tm_T> will try then (:
[17:45] <maco> ScottK: im pretty sure there's a way to make pbuilder save build deps on disk outside the jail to avoid network overhead on redownloading, but im failing at google. do you know how?
[17:46] <ScottK> It does that be default,  IIRC.
[17:47] <maco> i just checked the manpage and it says there's an environment variable that should be set in /etc/pbuilderrc, but it isn't
[17:47] <ScottK> Errr.  I think it used ot.
[17:47] <ScottK> ot/to
[17:49] <ScottK> maco: I think man pbuilderrc holds the answer to your question.
[17:50] <maco> i'll have to look at all the pbuilderrc's on my laptop then because i thought it spent a while on downloading every time
[17:53] <steveire> apachelogger: ping?
[17:53] <Tm_T> hmmm, almost works
[17:53] <steveire> Anyone know about .dektop files? I change /usr/share/kde4/services/kontactconfig.desktop in some way, like changing its icon and run kbuildsycoca4, but when I alt+f2 again, it doesn't have the new icon
[17:55] <Tm_T> agateau: hmh, apparently no luck, now apps don't have menus, but neither the widget (:)
[17:55] <agateau> Tm_T: arf :(
[17:55] <Tm_T> interesting
[17:56] <maco> steveire: might need to restart krunner? *shrug*
[17:58] <Tm_T> agateau: I'm also building dbusmenu-qt from gitorious but apparently Qt isn't using it as it's installed on different path
[18:00] <steveire> I'll toy with it later I guess
[18:00] <steveire> Bye
[18:00] <maco> bye
[19:08] <DarkwingDuck> Can I get someones opinion on this? http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Graphics/Oneiric/Kubuntu-Oneiric-Ocelot-Banner.png
[19:17] <bambee> jussi: http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Oneiric/17103699_kzzLF6#1296265659_cTXtTxn , I found you ;)
[19:18]  * bambee does not find harald :'(
[19:20] <bambee> I found him :D
[19:23] <bambee> DarkwingDuck: lovely
[19:23] <bambee> it's really nice :)
[19:23] <DarkwingDuck> TY, My hope is to have a HOST of banners and logo manipulations in the next week.
[19:24] <DarkwingDuck> Small, medium and large
[19:24] <ScottK> bambee: http://apachelog.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/princess.jpg?w=450&h=300 <-- apachelogger is the one on the right.
[19:24] <bambee> ScottK: lool
[19:24] <bambee> :D
[19:24] <ScottK> No. lool is someone else entirely.
[19:25] <ScottK> I'm pretty sure I've seen them both in the same room.
[19:25] <maco> ScottK: is this like when Pendulum and i were wondering if the world would end when we entered the same room in Orlando?
[19:25] <lool> yep, not me
[19:25] <ScottK> ;-)
[19:25] <bambee> s/lool/lol/
[19:25] <kubotu> bambee: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[19:25] <bambee> :)
[19:26] <bambee> ScottK: who is the one on the left ?
[19:26] <ScottK> That's mgraesslin.
[19:26] <bambee> oh :)
[19:28] <bambee> DarkwingDuck: what do you plan to do with that ?
[19:28] <bambee> it's for the new website ?
[19:28] <DarkwingDuck> For the website and some more artwork for people to use for blogs ect
[19:29] <bambee> :)
[19:29] <DarkwingDuck> We just need more eye candy for people to use.
[19:29] <bambee> I agree
[19:29] <DarkwingDuck> We have one logo setup and it's just kinda boring to have one thing.
[19:30] <ScottK> Right.  If you want just one thing, use Ubuntu.
[19:31] <DarkwingDuck> Aye
[19:32] <DarkwingDuck> So, I'm going to spend some time sharpening my inkscape skillz
[19:32] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[19:47] <shadeslayer> heh looks like they ran out of space this UDS ^_^
[20:37] <Quintasan> shadeslayer:  lol find Quintasan on the photo
[20:39] <shadeslayer> hehe
[20:39] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: did you wear a troll face or something?
[20:39] <Quintasan> lol no
[20:39] <Quintasan> that would be too easy
[20:39] <shadeslayer> aw
[20:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Question: What do we wish to accomplish by supporting Kubuntu on OMAP4? i'm still trying to figure out what OMAP4  offers over OMAP3
[20:40] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i did happen to see jte
[20:42] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Different hardware.
[20:43] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i know that ...
[20:43] <shadeslayer> but ... how do we take advantage of that different hardware?
[20:43] <ScottK> Canonical supports omap4 for Ubuntu, so if we had access to hardware it'd be simple enough for us too.
[20:43] <shadeslayer> how do we best utilize it to promote KDE and Kubuntu?
[20:44] <ScottK> First we need kubuntu-lowfat before we can win anything on armel.
[20:44] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i'm willing to buy the hardware ... but again .. we need to efficiently utilize it
[20:44] <shadeslayer> just buying a OMAP4 board and not utilizing all the resources won't achieve anything
[20:44] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: found you
[20:44] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: you're behind a guy with a white shirt
[20:45] <shadeslayer> huh .. you're tshirt says linaro ... i wonder why
[20:45] <Quintasan> nope
[20:45] <Quintasan> I ain't wearing a Linaro tshirt
[20:45] <shadeslayer> why is RIddell standing in a corner 0.o
[20:45] <Quintasan> nor and openstack one
[20:45] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: black tshirt?
[20:46] <Quintasan> hmm
[20:46] <Quintasan> nope
[20:46]  * Quintasan needs to refind himself
[20:46] <shadeslayer> heh
[20:47] <shadeslayer> ScottK: dude, did you upload my backported package?
[20:47] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: did you give a lightning talk?
[20:48] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: nope
[20:48] <shadeslayer> :O
[20:48] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: We ran out of time before I got to talk
[20:48] <shadeslayer> aw
[20:49] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I don't upload, I approve.
[20:49] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Can you see Mark on the group photo?
[20:49] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: if you look down you can see ScottK
[20:50] <shadeslayer> yep i can see ScottK
[20:50] <ScottK> Just showed the photo to my 8 year old.  She found me in less than a minute.
[20:50] <Quintasan> look a little bit down and left
[20:50] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: see than little idiot that looks like shouting?
[20:50] <Quintasan> that's me :D
[20:50] <maco> where's the group photo?
[20:50] <shadeslayer> maco: http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Oneiric/17103699_kzzLF6#1296264271_KPdNsjq-O-LB
[20:50] <Quintasan> maco: http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Oneiric/17103699_kzzLF6#1296264271_KPdNsjq-O-LB
[20:50] <Quintasan> :D
[20:50] <shadeslayer> ah
[20:50] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: gotcha
[20:50] <ScottK> http://apachelog.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/princess.jpg?w=450&h=300
[20:51] <Quintasan> FFFFFFUUUUU-
[20:51] <maco> i see pink hypatia hair
[20:51] <Quintasan> ScottK: Y U SEND THIS AGAIN?
[20:51] <shadeslayer> that is one epic pic
[20:51] <shadeslayer> we bought loads of mickey caps
[20:51]  * Quintasan wanted to forget that
[20:51] <maco> emmet looks like he's trying to hide under the balcony
[20:51] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin is looking around for someone to save  him 
[20:52] <maco> oooh there are women i don't know. clearly numbers are growing
[20:52] <maco> who is the blonde one in the blue skirt?
[20:52] <shadeslayer> ScottK: please approve it then :)
[20:52] <Quintasan> Don't tell me that rbelem pulled a Rodrigo on Group Photo
[20:52] <shadeslayer> nah he's there
[20:52] <shadeslayer> he's with apachelogger
[20:52] <Quintasan> ScottK: under the pillar :D
[20:52] <maco> ScottK: your eyes appear to be going in opposite directions in the photo. im hoping this is pixellation's fault
[20:53] <Quintasan> oh yeah, persia is like: "quickly, take cover"
[20:53] <Quintasan> D:
[20:54] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: he doesn't like pics i think :P
[20:54] <shadeslayer> i had the same experience with him at Florida ;)
[20:54] <Quintasan> Where the hell is apachelogger?
[20:55] <shadeslayer> where's persia in the pic anyways
[20:55] <shadeslayer> ah
[20:55] <shadeslayer> LOL
[20:55] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: look at the balcony on the left
[20:55] <shadeslayer> yeah saw him
[20:55] <Quintasan> under the balcony :P
[20:55] <shadeslayer> i think that's his "I'm going to break your camera" look
[20:56] <maco> Quintasan:  apachelogger is on the right just to the left of riddell (who is leaning against a pillar)
[20:56] <shadeslayer> yep
[20:56] <Quintasan> oh yeah
[20:56] <shadeslayer> and next to him is rbelem
[20:56] <Quintasan> and Rodrigo is there
[20:56] <Quintasan> closed eyes
[20:56] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i thought you were the guy in front of apachelogger
[20:56] <Quintasan> pulling a Rodrigo even on Group Photo
[20:56] <shadeslayer> with the red hair
[20:56] <Quintasan> LOL
[20:57] <Quintasan> omg I met so much people
[20:57] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: did you meet people whom you didn't know?
[20:57] <Quintasan> jussi's facial expression is like: meh, another group photo
[20:58] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: hmmm, like my room mate :P
[20:58] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: who was your room mate?
[20:58] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: can you see nigelb in the photo
[20:58] <shadeslayer> i just closed it
[20:58] <rbelem> :-D
[20:59] <Quintasan> lol
[20:59] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: what was his irc nick/Name?
[20:59] <Quintasan> no idea :DD
[20:59] <shadeslayer> you .. don't ... know ... your ... room mates name? :O
[20:59] <Quintasan> name is Matthew McGowan
[20:59] <Quintasan> oh found him
[20:59] <shadeslayer> oh .. never heard of him
[21:00] <shadeslayer> ScottK: the OMAP4 dev borad costs twice as much here in India :(
[21:00] <shadeslayer> ... 3rd world problems  ...
[21:00] <maco> the guy front of and left-as-we-view-it to the guy in teh debian shirt looks like he's sneezing
[21:01] <shadeslayer> hmm ... exam in 13 hours
[21:01] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: or like, one dude showed up and said "I think I heard Russian", I replied that's Polish, and he is like "Na zdrowie"
[21:02] <Quintasan> Na zdrowie == Cheers
[21:02] <shadeslayer> heh
[21:03] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: didn't ScottK and apachelogger keep you up till 3 AM?
[21:03] <Quintasan> dpm and dholbach are such trolls
[21:03] <shadeslayer> really?
[21:03] <shadeslayer> dholbach seems quite nice when you talk to him on IRC ^_^
[21:03] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: well, I didn't care when they wanted to go to bed, I just went when I felt like it
[21:03] <Quintasan> though apachelogger broke his policy of not going to sleep until ScottK does
[21:03] <shadeslayer> that's a first
[21:04] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: oh and did you guys have irn bru and go hot tubbing?
[21:04] <Quintasan> dholbach is a nice guy, but the photographer said "omg, nice troll, going over to balcony"
[21:04] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[21:04] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: irn bru?
[21:04] <shadeslayer> ...
[21:04] <Quintasan> I think I ate one of jussi Finnish sweets
[21:04] <Quintasan> urgh
[21:04] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: awesome drink that Riddell gets to a UDS
[21:04] <Quintasan> http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Oneiric/17103699_kzzLF6#1296267492_cSzPjXb
[21:04] <Quintasan> look
[21:05] <Quintasan> dpm and dholbach next to him doing thumbs up
[21:05] <shadeslayer> yeah :D
[21:05] <shadeslayer> the only thing missing is a troll face
[21:05] <shadeslayer> :O
[21:06] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: dholbach looks like  troll in that pic
[21:06] <Quintasan> I'm going to print at least 5 masks for next UDS
[21:06] <shadeslayer> hahahaa
[21:06] <shadeslayer> i might come to the next one depending on the same factors as the last one + if i can manage to get a OMAP4 Kubuntu tech preview out by october
[21:07] <shadeslayer> with Plasma Active on that preview :>
[21:09] <Quintasan> HAHAHA
[21:09] <Quintasan> Orginal quality of pics <3
[21:09] <Quintasan> I can read almost every nametag
[21:09] <Quintasan> :D
[21:11] <Quintasan> http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Other/Chippoke-Traveling-Hedgehog/16615959_cKvbn#1296431278_cMRGc6s
[21:11] <Quintasan> :DDDDDDDDD
[21:11] <Quintasan> I want one <3
[21:12] <sheytan_> hey
[21:12] <Quintasan> sheytan_: \o
[21:12] <sheytan_> what's the latest muon version?
[21:12] <Quintasan> 1.1.2-0ubuntu1
[21:12] <Quintasan> !info muon oneiric
[21:12] <Quintasan> wtf
[21:12] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ^
[21:13] <Quintasan> !info muon
[21:13] <Quintasan> sheytan_: ^
[21:13] <Quintasan> that should be it
[21:14] <sheytan_> Quintasan is muon software center and muon package manager a different thing?
[21:14] <sheytan_> i installed muon pkg manager, but it doesn't look like this http://apachelog.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/muon-installer.png but the version is 1.1.2
[21:15] <Quintasan> sheytan_: They are different apps using the same backend
[21:15] <Quintasan> sheytan_: you want muon-installer
[21:16]  * Quintasan goes to bed
[21:16] <Quintasan> Good night
[21:18] <eMyller> 'lo all
[21:18] <sheytan_> Quintasan thanks, bye
[21:18] <sheytan_> Muon SC is not bad, but it needs some UI love
[21:18] <sheytan_> i'll take care of that :D
[21:19] <eMyller> hey, sheytan_ :)
[21:19] <sheytan_> Who's the Muon SC main dev?
[21:19] <sheytan> eMyller hey :D
[21:19] <eMyller> lol how long
[21:20] <sheytan> oh yea
[21:20] <sheytan> too busy to sit on IRC
[21:20] <sheytan> work, prive life, etc
[21:20] <sheytan> but well, sometimes i'm here :D
[21:20] <sheytan> not dead yet :D
[21:26] <sheytan> gtg, bye all
[21:26] <yofel> sheytan: dev is johntheechidna
[21:28] <ScottK> shadeslayer: What's the bug?
[21:30] <ScottK> maco: It's pixellation.
[21:31] <shadeslayer> ScottK: bug 784296
[21:34] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Commented.
[21:35] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i cannot compute that comment
[21:35] <ScottK> Then we're even.
[21:35] <ScottK> You're debdiff didn't make any sense either.
[21:36] <shadeslayer> it's not a debdiff
[21:36] <shadeslayer> its just a diff of the packaging
[21:36] <ScottK> You need to take the oneiric pacakge, build it on natty and then test that it installs and runs.
[21:36] <ScottK> Right.  I don't care about natty -> oneiric.  I care about oneiric -> natty-backports.
[21:36] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i did that, just had to add a changelog entry
[21:36] <ScottK> Then there's no diff.
[21:37] <ScottK> It doesn't say this in the bug.
[21:37] <ScottK> At least not an any comprehensible way.
[21:37] <shadeslayer> oh you need natty vs oneric diff
[21:37] <ScottK> Not since it's changelog only.
[21:37] <ScottK> Just a statement that no changes are needed.
[21:37] <ScottK> And that it builds and runs on natty.
[21:38] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i've mentioned it in the description that the package installs and runs
[21:38] <shadeslayer> and attached install logs
[21:38] <eMyller> yofel: was it you that mentioned a but @ libntrack about these natty freezes?
[21:39] <ScottK> shadeslayer: But that wasn't based on what was in oneiric since it was done before it was even uploaded.
[21:39] <shadeslayer> ScottK: commented
[21:39] <shadeslayer> ah
[21:39] <yofel> iirc yes
[21:39] <shadeslayer> okay ... apachelogger didn't upload my package to oneiric :P
[21:39] <ScottK> Right, which made that you hadn't tested based on what was uploaded for the backport bloody obvious.
[21:39] <eMyller> yofel: could you gimme its id?
[21:40] <ScottK> Sigh.
[21:40] <shadeslayer> Yep, sorry my bad that it wasn't obvious
[21:40] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Your comment lacks the word "runs".
[21:40] <yofel> bug 755608
[21:40] <ScottK> Builds and installs is only two thirds of the problem.
[21:40] <shadeslayer> ScottK: see bug description
[21:40] <shadeslayer> last line
[21:41] <ScottK> shadeslayer: See my comment about the bogusness of description.
[21:42] <shadeslayer> ScottK: commented that it runs fine
[21:42] <ScottK> OK.
[21:42]  * ScottK looks again.
[21:43] <ScottK> Done
[21:43] <shadeslayer> thanks!
[21:43] <shadeslayer> ok night everyone :)
[21:50] <yofel> gn from me too ;)
[21:50] <bambee> gn
[21:59] <eMyller> ty, yofel
[22:03] <apachelogger> ScottK, shadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kamoso
[22:03] <ScottK> apachelogger: shadeslayer eventually managed to write the correct thing in the bug.  It just took about eleventy zillion more times than usual.
[22:06] <apachelogger> Quintasan, shadeslayer: well, unlike ScottK I actually pulled an allnighter + rbelem consumed all the magic stay-awake-pills for no good reason :P
[22:06] <ScottK> no good reason/no apparent effect
[22:06] <apachelogger> *nod*
[22:06] <apachelogger> ScottK: runs is a difficult word to write :P
[22:06] <rbelem> :-D
[22:07] <ScottK> apachelogger: He's probably not familiar with it due to the uber heavy laptop and all.
[22:07] <maco> who was it that was surprised i could hold a laptop with one hand and type with the other?
[22:07] <maco> hmm might have been shadeslayer actually
[22:09] <apachelogger> ScottK: :D :D
[22:23] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: plz fix the kamoso package to not build depend on libvlc-dev for no good reason
[23:06] <eMyller> where can i get the debug symbols for libntrack?
[23:06] <eMyller> yofel: ↑
[23:12] <ScottK> eMyller: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-September/000195.html
[23:17] <eMyller> ty
[23:17] <ScottK> eMyller: There's a fixed ntrack in my PPA you can try.
[23:18] <eMyller> ScottK: did you patch it?
[23:18] <ScottK> I did.
[23:18] <ScottK> Patch from upstream.
[23:18] <ScottK> It's pending as an SRU.
[23:18] <eMyller> ScottK: is it about that infamous while loop with broken lists?
[23:19] <ScottK> It's about the 100% CPU when using a VPN.
[23:19] <ScottK> I believe that's the same thing.
[23:19] <eMyller> when using 3G or any other connection
[23:19] <eMyller> it's related to dbus/solid
[23:19] <eMyller> ScottK: you should tell aseigo
[23:19] <ScottK> I'd try my fix first and then see what's left.
[23:19] <ScottK> Upstream said the fix was incomplete.
[23:20] <ScottK> I put it in the relevant KDE bug.  Please test first and see if it helps.
[23:20] <eMyller> we talked earlier about it, and i was about to send him a deeper debug info
[23:20] <eMyller> sure
[23:22] <eMyller> ScottK: is it ~kitterman?
[23:22] <ScottK> Yes
[23:28] <eMyller> ScottK: your ppa has some qt4 stuff. what's changed in it
[23:28] <eMyller> ?
[23:34] <eMyller> brb