| Xase | Sorry bout that. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Xase | Got a copy of those sources? | 00:01 |
| Xase | I searched for a half hour earlier while half asleep, and never found them... | 00:02 |
| Xase | Guess I gave up eventually. | 00:02 |
| GrueMaster | Let me see if there is a link. | 00:03 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Sure. | 00:21 |
| NCommander | ScottK: thanks | 00:23 |
| kgilmer | hrw, y? | 00:33 |
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| xase | GrueMaster: someone crashed my internet earlier, I assume it was the dogs, did you find that link bossmate? | 03:11 |
| GrueMaster | Yes. http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PResources/download/Nook/source-code/nookcolor_1.2.tgz | 03:11 |
| xase | Guess I gotta build it, what was the name of that tool? | 03:12 |
| xase | Wow this internet blows. | 03:15 |
| xase | =D | 03:31 |
| xase | GrueMaster: what was that utility I needed to build it? | 03:33 |
| GrueMaster | Oops, sorry. I think you can install gcc & gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi | 03:36 |
| GrueMaster | Then cross compile. | 03:36 |
| GrueMaster | (dinner called, had to eat) | 03:36 |
| StevenK | Why did it call, was it still alive? | 03:37 |
| Xase_ | Daughter shut the internet | 03:40 |
| GrueMaster | heh | 03:40 |
| GrueMaster | StevenK: Hey! | 03:40 |
| GrueMaster | StevenK: No, I don't eat Aussie style. :P | 03:41 |
| StevenK | Hah | 03:41 |
| Xase_ | so gnu-gcc and gnu-arm-eabi? | 03:42 |
| Xase_ | I didn't quite read it before she shut the lid. | 03:43 |
| Xase_ | I'm going to open up irc on the desktop so I don't miss anything. | 03:43 |
| GrueMaster | heh. gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi | 03:43 |
| Xase_ | I knew I was close. | 03:44 |
| Xase_ | And that has the utility to build the u-boot source? | 03:44 |
| GrueMaster | Xase_: I have quasselcore installed on a server in my basement, and I connect to it with quasselclient. The server stays logged in, even when I travel. | 03:44 |
| GrueMaster | I think it should, but you may need to tweek the makefile. I've never cross compiled before. | 03:45 |
| Xase_ | I'm working with unlimited space and resources unfortunately, but that sounds awesome. | 03:45 |
| GrueMaster | rsalveti would know. | 03:45 |
| * rsalveti reading | 03:45 | |
| Xase_ | READING?!?E!@ER@EWFSD | 03:45 |
| Xase_ | How dare you. | 03:45 |
| GrueMaster | rsalveti: xcompile u-boot | 03:45 |
| Xase_ | :p | 03:45 |
| rsalveti | CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- make omap4_panda_config | 03:46 |
| rsalveti | CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- make u-boot.bin | 03:46 |
| rsalveti | for panda | 03:46 |
| Xase_ | Alright, I'll be sure to bother the room with numerous pastebins when I hit retardation walls. | 03:47 |
| GrueMaster | Xase_: So just change omap4_panda_config for omap3621_evt1a | 03:48 |
| Xase_ | You know, I've never bothered trying to share files via windows & Linux... is it easy? | 03:48 |
| rsalveti | Xase_: samba should do it | 03:48 |
| rsalveti | easy to set | 03:49 |
| Xase_ | Good, because I have shite internet, and already downloaded the source to this computer... would rather just share things back and forth. | 03:49 |
| Xase_ | Nananana nananana hey hey, lets compile. | 03:56 |
| Xase | Hi Xase_ | 04:01 |
| Xase_ | Hi you sexy me. | 04:01 |
| GrueMaster | I see internet weirdness has risen again. | 04:31 |
| ndec1 | lag: did you get your answer about the TI guy you were looking for? | 07:29 |
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| hrw | kgilmer: 01:33 is my sleeping time... | 07:59 |
| lag | ndec: I did, thank you | 08:41 |
| ndec | lag: cool... thx.. and sorry about the delay ;-) | 08:41 |
| lag | ndec: NP :) | 08:41 |
| ppisati | cool | 09:16 |
| ppisati | so, usb enumeration (and thus booting) on omap3 is broken | 09:16 |
| ppisati | while it works on panda | 09:16 |
| ppisati | at this point i wonder if i shall try with the linaro kernel too... | 09:17 |
| kgilmer | yeah hrw. i got it figured out, didn't have to downgrade. thx for the tip. | 09:50 |
| kgilmer | on upgrades, i wish there was a "leave my ui just like it is" option. | 09:51 |
| hrw | kgilmer: lot of people would love to | 09:52 |
| hrw | kgilmer: I saw that you mvoed to 35 kernel | 09:53 |
| kgilmer | yep | 09:53 |
| kgilmer | you -> izzy, others in nyc, not me :) | 09:54 |
| hrw | kgilmer: I meant BL | 09:54 |
| kgilmer | seems to be working alright | 09:54 |
| kgilmer | i'm also trying to support bug13 hw in my free time, maybe i told you | 09:55 |
| kgilmer | MACHINE="bug", basically w/ angstrom | 09:55 |
| hrw | kgilmer: I noticed on the list and blogs | 09:56 |
| kgilmer | ah cool | 09:56 |
| kgilmer | working on some refactoring now so at the app layer it is easier to combine different bits for different hw | 09:56 |
| kgilmer | so i can have something like "bug for beagleboard" ... our long lost dream | 09:57 |
| kgilmer | not that it's going to set the world on fire, but it's fun to work on. | 09:57 |
| hrw | ;D | 10:04 |
| hrw | kgilmer: I still have beaglebug board somewhere | 10:04 |
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| ppisati | it seems my flyswatter didn't survive the trip to budapest :( | 14:37 |
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| ppisati | ok, now i know we i've recompiled the x-loader :) | 14:47 |
| rsalveti | ppisati: http://focus.ti.com/pdfs/wtbu/OMAP4430_ES2.0_Public_TRM_vJ.pdf | 15:33 |
| rsalveti | ppisati: for the omap 4 trm | 15:33 |
| rsalveti | I believe you can find newer versions at the ti website | 15:34 |
| rsalveti | but that's the document you were looking for | 15:34 |
| cipher | when using the linux gadget framework what exactly does "platform code" mean.... | 15:36 |
| cipher | does that mean creating your own module and associated kernel options that get set in the .config? | 15:36 |
| cipher | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/linux-usb-gadget-hid-driver-problem-840733/ | 15:39 |
| cipher | basically on this link... the guy responds to his own question, but I don't know where the platform_register_device should go? | 15:39 |
| martyn | PXE patches are ready | 16:04 |
| martyn | where should I post the u-boot PXE patches? | 16:04 |
| martyn | server mailing list? | 16:04 |
| rsalveti | martyn: did you post at the u-boot ml? | 16:14 |
| rsalveti | jcrigby: can probably be interested on that too | 16:14 |
| martyn | This patch is meant for us, first | 16:14 |
| martyn | so we can get working now .. it will need to be upstreamed as it gets to be higher quality | 16:15 |
| rsalveti | martyn: jcrigby is maintaining the u-boot we're using at our images | 16:15 |
| martyn | jcrigby: You online? | 16:15 |
| jcrigby | martyn, yes I'm here | 16:16 |
| martyn | patch coming your way :) | 16:16 |
| jcrigby | martyn, thanks! | 16:16 |
| martyn | I'll do a git patch, then email? | 16:16 |
| jcrigby | martyn, sounds good john.rigby@linaro.org | 16:17 |
| martyn | okay .. know what's going on with the patches? | 16:19 |
| martyn | this is for the arm server 11.10 .. we need PXE, so calxeda is putting in our PXE patches | 16:19 |
| * hrw thought that tftp is enough | 16:20 | |
| martyn | Nope | 16:20 |
| martyn | we need to be able to do everything that x86 server can do | 16:20 |
| martyn | that includes pxe install :) | 16:21 |
| martyn | heck, I'm even going to take a stab at implementing TCP so we can do HTTP install | 16:21 |
| martyn | (gpxe) | 16:21 |
| martyn | but the PXE patch is ready now | 16:21 |
| hrw | I had arm boards which booted uboot from flash and then tftp-ed kernel to boot | 16:21 |
| martyn | hrw : Refer to notes from UDS : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-o-arm-server | 16:22 |
| hrw | ok | 16:22 |
| Xase_ | ... GrueMaster what was that target rsalveti mentioned, stupid webchat crashed, and my irc client hadn't joined the room till after he mentioned it. | 16:31 |
| GrueMaster | [19:47:31] <rsalveti> CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- make omap4_panda_config | 16:32 |
| GrueMaster | [19:47:42] <rsalveti> CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- make u-boot.bin | 16:32 |
| GrueMaster | And I noted that you will want omap3621_evt1a | 16:32 |
| Xase | Yeah thanks :D GrueMaster gonna compile that soon as I get samba up | 16:35 |
| martyn | jcrigby: Do you want the patch we used to change the configuration on ca9x4_ct_vxp as well? It's a good reference | 16:36 |
| martyn | (I'm just using git diff to generate the patch) | 16:37 |
| jcrigby | martyn, thats fine | 16:37 |
| Xase | Man... | 16:47 |
| Xase | Samba sucks to set up | 16:47 |
| Xase | I got it working on windows to access ubuntu... but ubuntu can't open the network for some reason | 16:48 |
| Xase | THERE | 16:54 |
| Xase | Finally, here comes the source... | 16:54 |
| Xase | I'll figure out why I can't see the computer from Ubuntu's end later... | 16:54 |
| GrueMaster | Windows doesn't play well with others. | 17:01 |
| Xase | Great and now some how I've misplaced my natty img | 17:05 |
| GrueMaster | oops | 17:09 |
| Xase | wtf... now that mount command asks for filetype | 17:24 |
| Xase | GrueMaster: what was that mount command again -_-? I have this: sudo mount /home/jase/wrkspc/natty-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap.img /home/jase/wrkspc/NATTYHAXYO/ -o loop,offset$((512*63)) | 17:26 |
| GrueMaster | should be offset=$((512*63)). Missing = | 17:27 |
| Xase | You are mighty sir@ GrueMaster | 17:27 |
| GrueMaster | heh | 17:27 |
| Xase | now, I'll only have to replace u-boot.bin? @ GrueMaster , or will I have to compile some other files? | 17:28 |
| GrueMaster | x-loader as well. | 17:28 |
| Xase | so build x-loader and u-boot, and just copy over my resultant files? | 17:29 |
| Xase | make: *** No rule to make target `omap3621_evt1a'. Stop. | 17:31 |
| GrueMaster | Xase: I am not sure what the name of the config is for the nook. I haven't had a chance to look through it. | 17:33 |
| Xase_ | Would it be in the nook source? | 17:33 |
| Xase_ | I'll ask in NookDevs and Cyanogen mod | 17:34 |
| GrueMaster | It should be | 17:34 |
| Xase | I assume I'm looking for a .mk file@ GrueMaster? | 17:38 |
| GrueMaster | Let me look. Give me a sec. | 17:38 |
| Xase | Well I see several. | 17:39 |
| Xase | Take your time. | 17:39 |
| Xase | there's config.mk i386_*.mk m68k_*.mk microblaze_*.mk mips_*.mk nios2_*.mk nios_*.mk and ppc_*.mk here | 17:41 |
| Xase | oh and arm_*.mk | 17:41 |
| Xase | and a blackfin one | 17:41 |
| Xase_ | make -j2 omap3621_evt1a_config @ GrueMaster according to Nookdevs.com | 17:43 |
| Xase | jase@xike:~/wrkspc/distro/u-boot$ CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- make omap3621_evt1a_config | 17:44 |
| Xase | Configuring for omap3621_evt1a board... | 17:44 |
| Xase | Compiling now @ GrueMaster | 17:45 |
| GrueMaster | yep. | 17:45 |
| Xase | Can't believe all I was missing was _config :D | 17:46 |
| GrueMaster | Do the same for x-loader once you have u-boot. | 17:47 |
| Xase | Don't I have to also build the kernel ? | 17:47 |
| GrueMaster | Yea, probably. | 17:47 |
| GrueMaster | Like I said before, I haven't really had time to explore this. | 17:48 |
| Xase | Well I'll just wing it, and reference nookdevs.com. Get back to what you're doing boss man. | 17:48 |
| GrueMaster | heh | 17:52 |
| Xase | GrueMaster: Building that kernel now, then I'll dd the image to my SD Card and reply with the results | 17:55 |
| GrueMaster | cool | 17:56 |
| Xase | GrueMaster: one more teensy thing... that command to mount didn't give read write access did it? | 18:06 |
| Xase | or only to root? | 18:06 |
| GrueMaster | It should have, but it may be root only write access. You could also just flash and SD and mount it. | 18:06 |
| GrueMaster | brb | 18:07 |
| Xase | Meaning like... if I already have a prepared sd card? | 18:07 |
| GrueMaster | Flash the image to the SD, then mountthe first partition and copy your files to it. | 18:39 |
| cipher | has anyone had some success at making a platform hid device with the linux gadget framework? | 18:40 |
| cipher | I've got my device up but no transfer between /dev/hidg0 (device side) and /dev/hidraw0 (host side) | 18:40 |
| Xase_ | When I plug in the device, and boot it with the card in, it shows up as an omap3630 GrueMaster | 18:50 |
| Xase_ | No display comes up though | 18:51 |
| GrueMaster | Hmm. | 18:51 |
| GrueMaster | Plug it in where? | 18:51 |
| Xase_ | I wish there was a way to communicate with the device over usb... but I've been googling for hours and haven't found anything. | 18:51 |
| Xase_ | My windows PC | 18:52 |
| GrueMaster | Oh. | 18:52 |
| Xase_ | It's just what my nook cord happened to be plugged into. | 18:52 |
| GrueMaster | Have you flashed the sd card with the natty image? | 18:52 |
| Xase_ | Yup | 18:52 |
| GrueMaster | ANd rebooted? | 18:52 |
| Xase_ | Yep | 18:52 |
| GrueMaster | But nothing? Interesting. | 18:52 |
| Xase_ | Devmgr didn't report an omap 3630 last time though I think. | 18:52 |
| Xase_ | I built mlo uboot and uimage | 18:53 |
| Xase_ | I hear windows detecting it, and then failing to register it. | 18:56 |
| Xase_ | Is there perchance a way to see if anything is happening over usb? | 18:57 |
| Xase_ | Via linux of course. | 18:57 |
| GrueMaster | not really. But when I looked at u-boot, it looked like I would need to make some changes so that it loads initrd properly along with our boot.scr | 18:58 |
| Xase | Hmm | 18:58 |
| Xase | So more work to tweak. | 18:58 |
| Xase | Yay | 18:58 |
| GrueMaster | As I said, I haven't had a chance to really dive in for the last 2 weeks. | 18:58 |
| Xase | Stuff that's over my head :), Well let me know what I can do to help and whatnot, and I can be your ears and eyes | 18:59 |
| GrueMaster | And I really won't be able to focus on it until next week. | 18:59 |
| Xase | Yeah, I'll see if I can equip my self with some developers of +1 intelligence :p | 18:59 |
| GrueMaster | Sounds good. BTW: there is a thread on xdadevelopers that has a rudamentary ubuntu running on it through vnc. | 18:59 |
| Xase | Yeah, that is an old trick. | 19:00 |
| Xase | I used to do that on my G1 | 19:00 |
| GrueMaster | look for nookbuntu | 19:00 |
| Xase | Think that ubuntu image would help some how? | 19:00 |
| GrueMaster | Ah, so you are familiar with it. | 19:00 |
| GrueMaster | Might for the boot portion. | 19:00 |
| Xase | Yeah, I saw that, and said PFFT | 19:03 |
| Xase | It's rather useless | 19:03 |
| Xase | But I'll take a look at it. | 19:03 |
| robclark | hey rsalveti, do you know if the patch for panda to take ethernet MAC addr from bootargs is gone? | 19:09 |
| robclark | guy next to me just switched to same kernel, and now we both have the same MAC addr on our pandas, which is a bit inconvenient.. | 19:10 |
| robclark | ahh, yeah, looks like the patch for macaddr in cmdline is reverted | 19:15 |
| prpplague | GrueMaster / rsalveti question for you guys | 19:21 |
| GrueMaster | Shoot. | 19:21 |
| prpplague | GrueMaster / rsalveti if you had an LCD adapter available for the pandaboard, would you prefer to have a large +5v wall wart that is used for the +5 and generates +12v for the lcd backlight, or would you prefer to have support for +9V or larger wall wart that drives the backlight and regulates down to +5v for the panda? | 19:23 |
| GrueMaster | Personally I would prefer a brick. No room for wall warts left (I already have 5 powerstips in my office). | 19:24 |
| GrueMaster | But one power source for both would be easier to manage. | 19:25 |
| prpplague | GrueMaster: right, but something like +12v and drop to +5v , or +5v push up to +12v | 19:25 |
| prpplague | GrueMaster: i'm stuck on tht | 19:25 |
| GrueMaster | I don't know enough about electronics to know the pros/cons of either. | 19:26 |
| GrueMaster | I do know most laptops use 19v DC and down convert for devices. | 19:27 |
| prpplague | GrueMaster: yea it is easier to down convert | 19:28 |
| GrueMaster | Plus most cars are 12v, so someone doing in-car dev work would prefer that I think. | 19:28 |
| prpplague | GrueMaster: indeed | 19:28 |
| martyn | What's NCommander's canonical email add? | 19:43 |
| * martyn is sending out pxe patches now | 19:43 | |
| martyn | patches sent | 19:54 |
| martyn | enjoy | 19:54 |
| Xase_ | So the pre-installed image goes to OEM setup right? | 20:43 |
| Xase_ | Anyway to set ssh or vnc to start and connect over to it that way? | 20:43 |
| Xase_ | To see if anything is actually functioning? | 20:44 |
| NCommander | martyn: thanks | 21:02 |
| martyn | It's a start :) | 21:03 |
| Xase_ | Beh, now this is no fun :( | 21:08 |
| rsalveti | robclark: I think it was reverted, but it's now using the omap die id to create the mac address | 21:11 |
| martyn | Huh .. I think Java is broken on my natty installation | 21:11 |
| rsalveti | I know the first version of this patch was getting the wrong values from the omap die id, so all macs were all the same | 21:11 |
| martyn | *grumpy* | 21:11 |
| rsalveti | robclark: which kernel are you using? | 21:11 |
| robclark | rsalveti, yeah, I saw that in the code.. | 21:12 |
| robclark | I'm using your drm branch ;-) | 21:12 |
| robclark | not sure if we have same die-id (at least in the bits it is reading)? | 21:12 |
| rsalveti | robclark: it should be unique | 21:12 |
| rsalveti | at least with my current kernel I'm getting different macs for all my 3 pandas | 21:13 |
| martyn | where does the OMAP normally get it's MAC address? | 21:13 |
| martyn | it doesn't store it in nvram? | 21:13 |
| rsalveti | robclark: could be that my branch is missing this fix | 21:13 |
| robclark | OMAP doesn't have a MAC.. | 21:13 |
| martyn | OMAP/pandaboard | 21:13 |
| martyn | sorry :) | 21:13 |
| rsalveti | martyn: missing eeprom at the smsc hardware | 21:13 |
| martyn | urk | 21:13 |
| * robclark just being over-precise | 21:13 | |
| robclark | rsalveti, do you have a pointer to the right patch? I can double check that.. | 21:13 |
| martyn | No, it's good. There certainly are lots of OMAP boards out there | 21:13 |
| rsalveti | robclark: sure, hold on | 21:14 |
| robclark | thx | 21:14 |
| martyn | rsalveti: It uses that damned SMSC usb->ethernet hardware? | 21:14 |
| rsalveti | martyn: yup | 21:14 |
| rsalveti | same as beagle xm | 21:14 |
| martyn | yuk | 21:14 |
| robclark | martyn, fwiw, there is no eeprom/nvram, which makes life a bit more difficult.. | 21:14 |
| martyn | I like the ones that use the ram interface better | 21:14 |
| martyn | 1911 | 21:14 |
| robclark | anyone know what snowball or the other low cost arm boards are doing? I assume it is a common problem.. | 21:15 |
| martyn | BRB -- I'm taking a look at the pandaboard that Trevor has here | 21:15 |
| martyn | because that's just a silly decision :) | 21:15 |
| martyn | snowball has an SRAM interface ethernet | 21:15 |
| martyn | I'll bet you it stores a mac address in flash :) | 21:15 |
| robclark | ok, so has eMMC or something like that on the board? | 21:16 |
| martyn | looking at the CALAO website now | 21:16 |
| martyn | Ethernet is a SMSC LAN9221 on the Snowball | 21:16 |
| martyn | Wireless is the Azurewave NH580 | 21:16 |
| martyn | 8GByte eMMC | 21:18 |
| prpplague | martyn: picking one up? | 21:19 |
| martyn | ten | 21:19 |
| prpplague | robclark: snowball doesn't have eeprom either | 21:19 |
| martyn | prpplague: But it does have eMMC | 21:19 |
| prpplague | martyn: right | 21:20 |
| martyn | which means you can load a MAC address in via u-boot | 21:20 |
| rsalveti | robclark: just apply this patch: http://rsalveti.net/tmp/0001-OMAP2-Common-CPU-DIE-ID-reading-code-reads-wrong-reg.patch | 21:20 |
| GrueMaster | Most dev boards don't have eeprom/nvram for mac addresses. It requres registration with a standards body to get a mac range. | 21:20 |
| prpplague | martyn: have they updated the ship dates? | 21:22 |
| martyn | no. | 21:22 |
| * prpplague wishes the #igloo channel was on freenode instead of oftc | 21:22 | |
| martyn | but we pre-ordered | 21:22 |
| prpplague | right as did i | 21:22 |
| martyn | Hmm .. according to the SMSC spec sheet for the LAN9221 .. we -can- burn a MAC into it | 21:23 |
| martyn | seems trivial to do so | 21:23 |
| martyn | Ah, I see | 21:24 |
| martyn | "optional EEPROM interface" | 21:24 |
| martyn | boooo | 21:24 |
| martyn | And they save a -whooooole- eight bytes of storage | 21:25 |
| Xase_ | GrueMaster: any tips for where I should head from here? | 21:26 |
| GrueMaster | Not yet. I was going to work from a post-installed image. Do you get video? | 21:33 |
| Xase_ | I get nothing on the screen. | 21:40 |
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| martyn | ogra_: Damnit man .. your serial cable is STILL IN MY BAG | 23:04 |
| martyn | AaaaaaaaaAAAaa!@ | 23:04 |
| martyn | I found it this morning | 23:05 |
| ogra_ | LOL | 23:05 |
| martyn | It's like the famous cat from the song 'the cat came back' | 23:05 |
| martyn | PXE patches submitted | 23:05 |
| martyn | ncommander and jcrigby have 'em | 23:05 |
| ogra_ | just keep it :) | 23:05 |
| martyn | I'll keep it in the 'to lend' hardware pile | 23:06 |
| tim | hi, i did a 'do-release-upgrade' on my NSLU2 running jaunty, and it died in the ass in a big way: | 23:10 |
| tim | ERROR got an error from dpkg for pkg: '/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.10.1-0ubuntu19_armel.deb': 'subprocess new post-removal script killed by signal (Illegal instruction)' | 23:10 |
| tim | i've read that support for the NSLU2 was dropped after jaunty, but do you know how i can clean this thing up so i can use it again? as in roll back to jaunty | 23:11 |
| ogra_ | reinstall is your only option i fear | 23:13 |
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| tim | apt and dpkg still seem to function OK, but it is missing things like ldconfig and locale, lol | 23:16 |
| ogra_ | well, if the new libc is already installed you will definitely run into probs, karmic was all compiled for armv6 | 23:17 |
| Matt_O | tim, that sounds pretty grave | 23:24 |
| tim | ah well, gotta keep it interesting somehow :) | 23:36 |
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