[18:12] <niemeyer> jimbaker: ping
[18:42] <jimbaker> at the amazon python day, mix of cloud computing + general language stuff for today
[18:48] <kim0> niemeyer: howdy Gustavo o/ .. Would you like to do the weekly meeting, or is everyone mostly catching up after uds
[18:49] <niemeyer> kim0: Up to you.. are you ready to push the meeting forward with interesting content?
[18:49] <koolhead17> hello all
[18:49] <kim0> koolhead17: hey :)
[18:49] <niemeyer> koolhead17: Hey!
[18:50] <koolhead17> kim0: its official am editing the cobbler wiki, got permission :)
[18:50] <koolhead17> niemeyer: kim0 hellos :)
[18:50] <kim0> koolhead17: awesome :) man you should start on ensemble asap too :)
[18:50] <kim0> there's a lot of editing to be done
[18:51] <koolhead17> kim0: hopefully soon. i have meething with boss to discuss on the same. and i have ensemble in my mind :)
[18:51] <kim0> koolhead17: woohoo :) let's take it forward .. let me know if there's anything I can do to help
[18:52] <koolhead17> kim0: hehe. the beginners guide of yours is there beside you
[18:52] <kim0> :)
[18:52] <koolhead17> am happy after so many days i was able to crack cobbler today :D
[18:52] <koolhead17> how are things here?
[18:53] <kim0> niemeyer: what about a quick meeting to summarize Ensemble UDS outcome
[18:53] <kim0> that should make an interesting blog post :)
[18:54] <niemeyer> kim0: That would be very nice indeed.  Are you ready to present it?
[18:54] <kim0> Yeah why not .. with your help everything is possible
[18:55] <koolhead17> cool!!
[18:56]  * kim0 jumps away for 5 mins
[18:56]  * koolhead17 waiting 4 the class/discussion to begin :)
[18:57] <koolhead17> kim0: ahem!! just got the tweet :D 
[18:57] <niemeyer> kim0: Yeah, I will certainly support you in case you have any doubts
[18:57] <koolhead17> Daviey: hellos :)
[18:58] <poolie> niemeyer: <secret handshake> ✌
[18:58] <niemeyer> poolie: <handshakes back>
[18:58] <niemeyer> :-)
[18:59] <Daviey> koolhead17: hey!
[18:59] <niemeyer> poolie: Had a good time going home?
[18:59] <koolhead17> Daviey: thanks for help the other day!! :)
[18:59] <niemeyer> poolie: Or, a boring time at least? :)
[19:00] <niemeyer> (/me can't imagine a *good* time cramped in an airplane for hours..)
[19:00] <koolhead17> niemeyer: your not somewhere in Europe :)
[19:00] <poolie> i solved this by not going home
[19:00] <poolie> am in millbank
[19:00] <poolie> thrashing pqm 
[19:00] <koolhead17> hi poolie
[19:00] <niemeyer> poolie: Oh, sweet
[19:00] <niemeyer> poolie: That's a valid solution
[19:02] <niemeyer> poolie: lp:lpad
[19:02] <poolie> mm, it's an interim solution
[19:02] <poolie> i know!
[19:02] <poolie> i am so excited about it 
[19:02] <poolie> i will eventually send you bug fixes too
[19:02] <niemeyer> poolie: Oh, sweet
[19:02] <kim0> niemeyer: starting the meeting
[19:03] <niemeyer> poolie: I spent the day covering most of the use cases with changes
[19:03] <poolie> you might like to read https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-dev/msg07091.html  too
[19:03] <niemeyer> kim0: Go! Go! Go!
[19:03] <poolie> just generally, and also i wonder if ensemble/orchestra ought to play a role
[19:03] <niemeyer> poolie: The missing piece now is POSTing
[19:03] <niemeyer> poolie: I mean.. it works already.. just need to add in a model type to see how it fits
[19:03] <niemeyer> poolie: I was trying to support AddIRCNick.. but turns out the API doesn't allow that yet
[19:04] <niemeyer> Will look for other boring use case which allows exercising that kind of logic
[19:04] <niemeyer> Then, we just have to extend the API to support all 300 types
[19:04] <niemeyer> :-)
[19:05] <poolie> mm there was some little trick i noticed
[19:05] <poolie> sholud have fixed it at the time
[19:08] <niemeyer> poolie: Have you seen the changes as of today?
[19:08] <niemeyer> http://goneat.org/pkg/launchpad.net/lpad/
[19:09] <niemeyer> poolie: The Resource interface is significantly more interesting, and Set* methods + Patch actually works!
[19:21] <poolie> not yet, will pull it
[19:25] <niemeyer> kim0: Good job, thank you!
[19:25] <kim0> great .. will formulate as a post tomorrow and blog it too
[19:26] <kim0> @everyone .. enjoy recovering from UDS :)
[19:28] <koolhead17> hahaha
[19:29]  * koolhead17 is trying to get munin alarts on a particular irc channel 
[19:32] <poolie> niemeyer: one thing is that it would be good if it generated new-style tokens 
[19:32] <poolie> which can be date-limited
[19:34] <niemeyer> poolie: Hmm.. tell me more about that
[19:35] <poolie> hm
[19:36] <poolie> so new launchpadlib asks for apparently some different type of token
[19:36] <poolie> called 'desktop integration'
[19:36] <poolie> which is more appropriate for local clients
[19:36] <poolie> rather than delegation to web sites
[19:36] <poolie> so they are fully trusted
[19:36] <poolie> but you can say 'trust forever, 1 week, etc'
[19:36] <poolie> thosethings ought to be orthogonal
[19:41] <niemeyer> poolie: That sounds quite interesting indeed
[19:41] <niemeyer> poolie: Any pointers to docs or something similar?
[19:41] <poolie> astonishingly yes
[19:41] <poolie> https://help.launchpad.net/API/ThirdPartyIntegration
[19:42] <niemeyer> poolie: Hah, fantastic
[19:43] <niemeyer> Hmm.. or almost
[19:43] <niemeyer> This seems to document from the perspective of the user
[21:11] <niemeyer> poolie: Handling iteration over mixed people and teams now.. interesting to design
[21:34]  * niemeyer steps out for some time.. back later