[05:26] <nigelb> paultag: delayed pong
[05:26] <paultag> nigelb: don't sweat it, all taken care of
[05:26] <nigelb> paultag: :)
[05:26] <paultag> nigelb: we had someone looking to help with the -in loco
[05:26] <paultag> nigelb: all good now, good to go :)
[05:26] <paultag> nigelb: 'moin :)
[05:28]  * nigelb yawns
[05:28] <paultag> nigelb: I'm working to try to clean up syn :)
[05:29] <paultag> I have a really cool idea that is actually pretty smart
[05:29] <nigelb> paultag: nice :)
[05:29] <paultag> I'll have 3-4 implementations of critical features in different ways, and you can choose which one it uses. I'm calling it the playbook
[05:29] <paultag> nigelb: ^
[05:29] <nigelb> paultag: NICE
[05:30] <paultag> so if the recursive solution runs out of RAM, you can switch to play xyz which does it in low-memory
[05:30] <paultag> each will be good at one thing :)
[05:38] <nigelb> mhall119, cjohnston: http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Oneiric/17103699_kzzLF6/1/1296058796_HdrLgVm#1296264271_KPdNsjq
[06:23] <YoBoY> good morning
[08:16] <dholbach> good morning
[08:59] <toros> hi
[09:30] <toros> re
[14:45] <Arun_> hi
[14:45] <Arun_> I need a help
[14:45] <Arun_> Can anybody help me to install ubuntu alongside my current OS??
[14:46] <head_victim> Arun_: I would first look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot and then if you have further questions ask in a support channel like #ubuntu
[14:47] <Arun_> I tried to install. but to create a new partition for ubuntu, I need to repartition my hard drive. If I do so, my recovery drive will be lost
[14:48] <head_victim> That page has information for manually partitioning the installation which would allow you to not touch your recovery drive.
[14:49] <Arun_> Thanks bro
[18:41]  * AlanBell waves about for a local friendly admin or loco-council peep
[18:41] <paultag> oh hai
[18:41] <czajkowski> AlanBell: aloha 
[18:41] <paultag> what's up
[18:41] <czajkowski> there is a difference in admin and council so sup
[18:42] <AlanBell> I am not the team owner so didn't get subscribed to the bug for reapproval
[18:42] <paultag> AlanBell: ubuntu-uk, aye?
[18:42] <AlanBell> yup
[18:42] <paultag> one moment, let me see what went wrong
[18:43] <czajkowski> paultag: team contact team owner team lead issue 
[18:43] <paultag> AlanBell: Michael Wood is subscribed
[18:43] <paultag> AlanBell: let me get you on there too
[18:43] <AlanBell> cool
[18:43] <czajkowski> hmm ask popey also 
[18:43] <czajkowski> shouldnt it just be team contact/lead getting it 
[18:43] <czajkowski> not owners
[18:43] <czajkowski> or we're going to end up in a pile of mess
[18:43] <paultag> AlanBell: all set, bug 784663
[18:44] <ubot4> paultag: Bug 784663 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/784663 is private
[18:44] <AlanBell> thanks
[18:44] <paultag> AlanBell: cheers :)
[18:44] <AlanBell> popey can see it anyway
[18:44] <paultag> czajkowski: yeah I mentioned that in the mail and told them to just ask the LP owner. Since it's in the LP system, it's actually not worst case
[18:44] <paultag> AlanBell: +1 to that
[18:45] <czajkowski> paultag: it's a rare issue I suspect... but reason a few teams could slip through 
[18:45] <paultag> czajkowski: in the morning I'll go through and try to track down teams in that situation
[18:46] <paultag> czajkowski: I'll just go through the LD and pull up contact lists.
[18:46] <czajkowski> paultag: so locolint pulls what from where 
[18:46] <paultag> czajkowski: locolit only uses LP
[18:46] <paultag> czajkowski: it files a bug, and subscribes the team owner on LP
[18:47] <czajkowski> hmm ok
[18:49] <popey> hello hello hello
[18:49] <popey> what's all this then
[18:50] <czajkowski> 18:41 < AlanBell> I am not the team owner so didn't get subscribed to the bug  for reapproval
[18:50] <czajkowski> 18:41 < paultag> AlanBell: ubuntu-uk, aye?
[18:50] <czajkowski> 18:41 < AlanBell> yup
[18:50] <czajkowski> 18:42 < paultag> one moment, let me see what went wrong
[18:50] <czajkowski> 18:42 < czajkowski> paultag: team contact team owner team lead issue 
[18:50] <czajkowski> 18:42 < paultag> AlanBell: Michael Wood is subscribed
[18:50] <czajkowski> k
[18:55] <pleia2> are all the teams familiar with the reapproval process? the lp bug doesn't actually tell you what it's about
[18:56] <pleia2> and is the approval application and update to the original approval app, or a new one altogether?
[18:56] <paultag> pleia2: we don't mind, either ways works. And you're right, we should blog a bit more about how the process works
[18:57] <pleia2> ok, thanks :)
[18:57] <pleia2> and not everyone reads the planet, so I'd suggest linking to some documentation in the LP bug itself
[18:58] <paultag> pleia2: I agree totally, as well as another mail to the contacts
[18:58] <paultag> we might have a wiki page, speaking of
[18:59] <pleia2> probably :) I didn't poke around to look for one
[18:59] <paultag> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoTeamReApproval <-- I'll update this and link
[18:59] <paultag> thanks pleia2 :)
[18:59] <pleia2> cool, thanks :)
[18:59] <paultag> no problem
[19:00] <mhall119> oh sweet, double-tapping Super+[1-9] will scale out just those windows
[19:00]  * mhall119 finds another reason to like Unity
[19:02] <czajkowski> paultag: pleia2 no a new application 
[19:02] <czajkowski> marked re application 
[19:03] <czajkowski> that way flks can trace history of team 
[19:04] <paultag> OK, I updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoTeamReApproval to include O-series
[19:04] <paultag> I'll post that on the reports and update locolint to do that automagically
[19:04] <popey> so everyone will get bugspam with that link in? :)
[19:04] <popey> ACE!
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[19:05] <popey> ^^^^^ for the people with defective sarcasm detectors
[19:06] <paultag> Oh chrud :)
[19:10] <czajkowski> I've just removed the point of contact bit 
[19:10] <czajkowski> god damnit 
[19:10] <czajkowski> internal wiki server error 
[19:10] <czajkowski> again 
[19:15] <paultag> OK, sorry for the mail :)
[19:15] <paultag> I think
[19:15] <paultag> not sure if updating description mails or not
[19:16] <paultag> Oh yep, there it is
[19:29] <cjohnston> paultag, czajkowski, itnet7, what is going to be done about getting team names consistant
[19:29] <czajkowski> cjohnston: baby steps 
[19:29] <czajkowski> cjohnston: it's on a to do list 
[19:29] <czajkowski> cjohnston: it's clearly a pet peve for you
[19:29] <czajkowski> but also a contentious issue
[19:29] <cjohnston> it makes LD look bad
[19:29] <cjohnston> and hard to read
[19:30] <YoBoY> cjohnston: can we just put Country (team names, ...) in the team list ? this way the list never change on team name changes
[19:31] <cjohnston> I don't understand
[19:31] <YoBoY> the team is organised by continent, right ?
[19:31] <YoBoY> (team list)
[19:31] <cjohnston> yes
[19:31] <czajkowski> cjohnston: I'm not arguing about this again with you :) you know how I feel about it, but its a case of getting teams to change their display name 
[19:32] <cjohnston> czajkowski: make it a requirement for reapproval. done
[19:32] <YoBoY> we could orginse it by continent and country
[19:32] <czajkowski> cjohnston: majority of the offenders are the usa teams 
[19:32] <czajkowski> cjohnston: again not as simple as thta 
[19:32] <YoBoY> and display the country names
[19:32] <czajkowski> cjohnston: add it to our agenda item for discussion 
[19:32] <cjohnston> YoBoY: by your own admission, your own team is not limited to a country but a language, so how would that work
[19:33] <czajkowski> see 
[19:33] <mhall119> YoBoY: so which country/continent should we put ubuntu-fr in?
[19:33] <czajkowski> this is why this is a topic for meeting 
[19:33] <YoBoY> and to see wich team is on the country we add the names in parenthesis
[19:33] <czajkowski> not just in here 
[19:33] <czajkowski> *sigh*
[19:33] <mhall119> personally, I don't think it makes LD look bad
[19:33] <YoBoY> cjohnston: yes and i'm really not abusing of that on the loco directory, I only declared Franche
[19:33] <YoBoY> France
[19:34] <AlanBell> why would anyone ever care what someone else's loco team name was?
[19:34] <cjohnston> I think it makes LD hard to read
[19:34] <YoBoY> mEurope > France
[19:34] <cjohnston> AlanBell: uniformity
[19:34] <YoBoY> mhall119:  Europe > France
[19:34] <mhall119> YoBoY: +1
[19:34] <mhall119> :)
[19:35] <YoBoY> I always said, our events, real ones, are on France
[19:35] <mhall119> I think once we add more active content, the team list format won't matter as much
[19:35] <cjohnston> YoBoY: then reaname your team to France.. If I'm looking for a team for France, or Paris, I'd never think to look for -fr
[19:35] <YoBoY> our online activities it's different, they are langage based
[19:36] <YoBoY> if you want I can ask to have ubuntu-paris ubuntu-lyon ubuntu-dijon approved loco teams :)
[19:36] <AlanBell> most of them are ubuntu-CC so I would expect france to be -fr
[19:36] <mhall119> cjohnston: is anybody actually having a problem finding a loco team because of the name formatting?
[19:37] <AlanBell> but I really don't care what france is doing, nobody in the UK will be looking for the -fr loco team
[19:37] <cjohnston> mhall119: I don't know
[19:37] <YoBoY> mhall119: btw, if you open google in a french, and search ubuntu, you find ubuntu-fr.org 
[19:37] <cjohnston> YoBoY: theres nothing wrong with that.. we have a chicago team
[19:38] <mhall119> YoBoY: if you search for either "french" or "france" in LD, you should get the -fr team too
[19:38] <YoBoY> yes
[19:38] <mhall119> ok, gotta pick up kids, bbl
[19:38] <paultag> cjohnston: we need to clean up display names and URLs IMHO
[19:39] <cjohnston> If you look at the teams list, there are two sets of alphabetical teams.. one that starts with ubuntu, and one that doesnt
[19:39] <mhall119> paultag: you know where to submit patches ;)
[19:39] <cjohnston> paultag: +3
[19:39] <cjohnston> wait.. are you talking about in loco directory or the teams doing it in LP paultag 
[19:41] <AlanBell> personally I think the map at the front adds very little value as it just takes you to an anchor tag on a big list
[19:41] <AlanBell> clicking europe should zoom in to a europe map, clicking france should take me to the french team page
[19:42] <AlanBell> yes, that is hard to do when people set up city sized loco teams
[19:42] <YoBoY> +1
[19:42] <YoBoY> it's why we don't do that and keep our "city teams" for us ^^
[19:42] <AlanBell> what I really want it to do is when I am logged in, it knows who I am, it knows what team I am in, it should just show me that
[19:43] <AlanBell> unless I go looking for other teams I don't really want to see them
[19:43] <cjohnston> AlanBell: thats already been discussed.. 
[19:43] <cjohnston> AlanBell: thats already in the code
[19:44] <YoBoY> we are moving to make this site the LoCo portal, so what's someone reaching the loco directory could search and how he came in the site in the first place ? this is for me the first question we have to answer
[19:45] <cjohnston> People seem to want it to be a portal, yes.. i dont understand the rest of your question
[19:46] <YoBoY> cjohnston: first one : How a person can go to the loco directory ? google ? ubuntu.com ? other links ?
[19:46] <cjohnston> yes
[19:46] <cjohnston> to all
[19:47] <paultag> cjohnston: in LP
[19:47] <YoBoY> have you some keyword to test how google find the loco directory ?
[19:47] <cjohnston> paultag: +3
[19:47] <cjohnston> you mean in the code?
[19:48] <cjohnston> YoBoY: ^
[19:48] <YoBoY> no
[19:48] <YoBoY> go to google.com and try some words like "event ubuntu florida" to see if google give you a link to the LD
[19:49] <cjohnston> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=ubuntu+florida+event #1 and #3 are LD
[19:50] <YoBoY> (you sure are logged in ^^")
[19:50] <YoBoY> but right, in your case this is working
[19:50] <YoBoY> not working so fine in google.fr
[19:51] <cjohnston> ok
[19:51] <YoBoY> and I think it's not working for lot of other countries too
[19:51] <toros> re
[19:51] <cjohnston> ok.. so you want seo
[19:54] <YoBoY> don't know ... it's just it feels like this great portal can miss its public sometimes
[19:55] <cjohnston> well.. I'm not really an SEO person, so maybe you could try to find someone to help oout with that?
[19:55] <YoBoY> perhaps, i'll ask
[19:57] <YoBoY> for the second part of my question, someone who have found the LD, what is searching ? help ? event ? support ? chat ? ...
[19:58] <cjohnston> dont know
[19:58] <cjohnston> do you mean searching opn google or searching on loco directoy
[19:59] <cjohnston> currently we have no way of obtaining stats
[19:59] <cjohnston> we are working with is
[19:59] <cjohnston> to get stats
[19:59] <YoBoY> searching on loco directory
[20:01] <mhall119> AlanBell: I think Ronnie or daker_ has a patch to add a "My Teams" link to the top-most nav bar
[20:01] <YoBoY> but sorry, too much questions in my head, I really need to learn python and django, it's on top of my todo list for this summer :)
[20:18] <Ronnie> AlanBell, mhall119. yes thats me: https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/my-teams
[20:23] <Ronnie> for the loco teamlist, we should do an IP location search http://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup and browser language check. and see what loco's apply to that user and put them in front of the list
[20:27] <marcus> i guess it's time for us (the swiss team) for re-approval. but i am not sure where to find the mentioned lp bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-locoteams/+bugs?field.tag=reapproval gives no result for me