=== medberry is now known as med_out === JasonO_ is now known as JasonO === luciano_ is now known as virusuy === yofel_ is now known as yofel [08:06] Hey, anyone up for reviewing http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/l2tp-ipsec-vpn [08:16] good morning [08:24] hello === smuxi-user-jtayl is now known as jtaylor [11:00] Morning dholbach. [11:55] hello [11:56] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avogadro/+bug/784267 [11:56] Ubuntu bug 784267 in avogadro (Ubuntu) "[new-upstream]avogadro 1.0.3" [Wishlist,New] [12:07] cross compiler packages can generate crazy overrides for lintian... [12:30] Uploading to ubuntu (via ftp to upload.ubuntu.com): Uploading armel-cross-toolchain-base_1.64.dsc: done. Uploading armel-cross-toolchain-base_1.64.tar.gz: done. Uploading armel-cross-toolchain-base_1.64_source.changes: done. [12:30] Successfully uploaded packages. [12:30] my first upload - hope it will go fine [13:12] tumbleweed: is there any way you could send your signature for my @nottingham.ac.uk uid to one of the other addresses? [13:13] I want to find out what Exchange is doing to it [13:13] p.s. hi! [13:15] * tumbleweed looks [13:22] thanks [13:23] hmm it's differet [13:23] nt [13:27] Laney: yeah I can't reconstitute the message caff sent, but it does archive the signature [13:27] tumbleweed: I think you sent the signature for @orangesquash.org.uk [13:28] oh, no [13:28] it was right... hmm [13:28] what in the world did exchange do?! [13:28] heh [13:34] can someone answer me some questions about ubuntu developer membership? [13:34] hrw: let's see what the questions are first :) [13:34] sure [13:35] I applied for (and got) universe contributor cause was told that motu is going to be removed [13:35] who told you that? [13:36] nevermind [13:39] so what is a difference between universecontributor and normal contributor? just @ubuntu stuff which I can just ignore? [13:40] hrw: contributing developer can't upload [13:40] hrw: Did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers? [13:40] micahg: universecontributor can't uplaod too [13:41] hrw: that's contributing developer AFAIK [13:41] iulian: read. just wanted to discuss do I understood it properly [13:42] micahg: ppu rights gave upload [13:42] hrw: that's not contributing developer, that's Per-package uploaders (and members of ubuntu-dev) [13:44] micahg: ppu devs contributes by their uploads and can also (as 'Prospective Developers') contribute by providing bugfixes/debdiffs for sponsors [13:46] I mean: is there a difference between 'Prospective Developers' (no @ubuntu, no rights to upload, gives bugfixes/debdiffs for sponsors) and 'Universe Contributors' other then @ubuntu stuff? [13:46] hrw: No. [13:46] hrw: ubuntu membership is the difference [13:47] thx [13:47] those bullet points are confusing [13:47] UCD aren't 'responsible' for anything [13:48] UCD just gets ubuntu membership. rest should be dropped [13:48] * hrw would apply for motu instead [13:48] well, the list should imply the bar for acceptance to some extent [13:49] i'd appreciate someone updating it :-) [13:49] http://pastebin.com/U5RGuec1 [13:50] i like 'continue with sponsored uploads' too [13:51] Laney: add "rest is like for Prospective Developers" line? :) [13:57] I think it should list the duties, just not explicit responsibility [14:00] micahg: they are mostly same for out-of-ubuntu-members and for universe-contributors [14:02] hrw: indeed, but there's some level of participation reUCD [14:03] s/reUCD/required to be a UCD/ [14:03] the 'significant and sustained' barrier still applies [14:03] wgrant: could you update http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/multidistrotools/ for oneiric? [14:09] ari-tczew: Done. [14:10] thnx === hannesw_ is now known as hannesw [14:40] Hey, anyone up for reviewing http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/l2tp-ipsec-vpn === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [18:23] highvoltage: if you haven't sent the pics to laney, you can send them to me directly if you want :) [18:24] sebner: ok. I put it on facebook and tagged him, but I guess you'll want higher-res photos anyway :) [18:24] highvoltage: that and I don't use FB :P [18:24] (just finishing something up and will send then) [18:24] highvoltage: no rush! === makl is now known as ximion [20:13] Hi, I want to prepare a .debdiff for VLC, which contains changes in binary files. How can I do that? [20:13] (for some reason they also have the binary translations inside the source package - the specific files I want to update are el.po==text and el.gmo==binary) [20:16] isn't el.gmo generated from el.po? [20:17] It is. But it's also there in the source package [20:18] I.e. after `dpkg-source -x` and without building anything, it's there [20:18] So I should update it for the debdiff, no? [20:19] (trying to prepare an SRU for lucid, for updated greek translations - I talked to the devs about it but I have problems with the binary file there :() [20:20] isn't it regnerated during build from your patched el.po? [20:21] It is. So I can just skip updating el.gmo in the .debdiff? [20:21] (I believe the correct thing would be for the source package to not contain el.gmo...) [20:26] yes and yes [20:26] (it would also make the source package 17 MB smaller - or 6 MB compressed) [20:26] Thank you, I'll try that [20:37] sebner: sending mail... [20:40] highvoltage: thanks very much :) [20:40] you're welcome! === ximion1 is now known as ximion === derick_ is now known as Guest54860 === Guest54860 is now known as ___D [22:30] <___D> http://fpaste.org/mTME/ hmm === ximion1 is now known as ximion [23:11] <___D> what is going wrong here? http://fpaste.org/C1a1/ [23:12] <___D> he is missing a makefile, but the package doesn't have a makefile, it is only to install some conf files [23:14] ScottK: sorry I jumped in. I was only there because one of my buddies needed python package help. I re-read what I posted and I might have sounded like an ass. My bad. [23:14] paultag: I thought it was fine. [23:14] I usually try to be a bit nicer, I felt a bit harsh. Thanks, though. [23:15] I guarantee that morph thought you did, but I think he'd have thought that to anything other than "Morph: you are completely right". [23:15] ScottK: :) [23:16] <___D> http://fpaste.org/UT3O/ [23:17] <___D> # [23:17] <___D> W: openstudiomenu source: missing-debian-source-format [23:17] <___D> # [23:17] <___D> W: openstudiomenu source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.8.3 (current is 3.8.4) [23:17] <___D> # [23:17] <___D> W: openstudiomenu: new-package-should-close-itp-bug [23:17] <___D> # [23:17] <___D> W: openstudiomenu: copyright-has-url-from-dh_make-boilerplate [23:17] <___D> # [23:17] <___D> E: openstudiomenu: section-is-dh_make-template [23:17] <___D> # [23:17] <___D> W: openstudiomenu: empty-binary-package [23:17] ___D: that built fine, you just don't have a GPG key to sign with. Use the -k flag to pass in the key if it's not byte-for-byte identical with the changelog [23:17] <___D> sorry [23:18] ___D: Whoh, use pastebin :) [23:18] <___D> Pathin_, why is it an empty binary? [23:18] ___D: all of those are simple to fix, use the -i flag for a better description [23:18] Oh I missed that [23:19] ___D: What build chain are you using? Does it support DESTDIR? [23:19] <___D> paultag, I am trying to build with http://debathena.mit.edu/config-package-dev/ [23:20] Ahha [23:22] ___D: what's the rules file look like? [23:22] are you including config-package.mk [23:22] <___D> paultag, http://fpaste.org/De5s/ [23:23] hummm [23:23] ___D: and your control? [23:24] * ScottK figures that one is somehow broder's fault. [23:24] ___D, ScottK, paultag: looking.... [23:24] but yes, likely my fault [23:24] <___D> paultag, http://fpaste.org/O5Iv/ [23:24] (well, likely the fault of the other people working on Debathena for being too busy with finals to reply to ___D's e-mail) [23:25] broder: just finished my last finals, it was amazing. Free at last, free at last :) [23:25] paultag: i graduated a year ago, which is why i was trying to let the current students deal with this :) [23:25] it's character building [23:25] broder: Ahhh :) [23:26] broder: MIT, then? [23:26] yeah [23:26] broder: I'm from Wellesley, right outside Boston [23:26] <___D> broder, I changed some stuff since my last email, with this as example http://debathena.mit.edu/config-package-dev/code/examples-simple/debathena-conffile-example/debian/ [23:27] ___D: your package is called openstudiomenu, but you have a file called debian/openstudio-menu.install [23:27] you need to either drop or add some hyphens somewhere [23:27] <___D> broder, hmm ok [23:33] <___D> broder, seems to be better now... [23:35] <___D> broder, is it possible to install conf files in the home dir (knowing the username) or do you get problems with right etc. then? [23:36] ___D: i don't believe that the package manager is the right way to deliver files to a user's homedir [23:36] <___D> broder, you're right probably ... [23:39] <___D> broder, o my it seems to work :) [23:40] <___D> broder, when the package is removed, config-package-dev restores the default conf? And it is possible to upgrade the package (e.g. the conf files)? [23:40] yes, and yes [23:41] <___D> broder, paultag thanks! [23:41] I did nothing, thanks broder :) [23:41] I thought you were woried about the wrong error and gave you bad advice :) [23:41] <___D> you're evil, right [23:41] <___D> :p [23:41] :)