[08:06] <wejaeger> Hey, anyone up for reviewing http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/l2tp-ipsec-vpn
[08:16] <dholbach> good morning
[08:24] <hrw> hello
[11:00] <iulian> Morning dholbach.
[11:55] <Guybrush88> hello
[11:56] <Guybrush88> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avogadro/+bug/784267
[12:07] <hrw> cross compiler packages can generate crazy overrides for lintian...
[12:30] <hrw> Uploading to ubuntu (via ftp to upload.ubuntu.com): Uploading armel-cross-toolchain-base_1.64.dsc: done. Uploading armel-cross-toolchain-base_1.64.tar.gz: done.   Uploading armel-cross-toolchain-base_1.64_source.changes: done.
[12:30] <hrw> Successfully uploaded packages.
[12:30] <hrw> my first upload - hope it will go fine
[13:12] <Laney> tumbleweed: is there any way you could send your signature for my @nottingham.ac.uk uid to one of the other addresses?
[13:13] <Laney> I want to find out what Exchange is doing to it
[13:13] <Laney> p.s. hi!
[13:15]  * tumbleweed looks
[13:22] <Laney> thanks
[13:23] <Laney> hmm it's differet
[13:23] <Laney> nt
[13:27] <tumbleweed> Laney: yeah I can't reconstitute the message caff sent, but it does archive the signature
[13:27] <Laney> tumbleweed: I think you sent the signature for @orangesquash.org.uk
[13:28] <Laney> oh, no
[13:28] <Laney> it was right... hmm
[13:28] <Laney> what in the world did exchange do?!
[13:28] <tumbleweed> heh
[13:34] <hrw> can someone answer me some questions about ubuntu developer membership?
[13:34] <micahg> hrw: let's see what the questions are first :)
[13:34] <hrw> sure
[13:35] <hrw> I applied for (and got) universe contributor cause was told that motu is going to be removed
[13:35] <Laney> who told you that?
[13:36] <hrw> nevermind
[13:39] <hrw> so what is a difference between universecontributor and normal contributor? just @ubuntu stuff which I can just ignore?
[13:40] <micahg> hrw: contributing developer can't upload
[13:40] <iulian> hrw: Did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers?
[13:40] <hrw> micahg: universecontributor can't uplaod too
[13:41] <micahg> hrw: that's contributing developer AFAIK
[13:41] <hrw> iulian: read. just wanted to discuss do I understood it properly
[13:42] <hrw> micahg: ppu rights gave upload
[13:42] <micahg> hrw: that's not contributing developer, that's Per-package uploaders (and members of ubuntu-dev)
[13:44] <hrw> micahg: ppu devs contributes by their uploads and can also (as 'Prospective Developers') contribute by providing bugfixes/debdiffs for sponsors
[13:46] <hrw> I mean: is there a difference between 'Prospective Developers' (no @ubuntu, no rights to upload, gives bugfixes/debdiffs for sponsors) and 'Universe Contributors' other then @ubuntu stuff?
[13:46] <iulian> hrw: No.
[13:46] <micahg> hrw: ubuntu membership is the difference
[13:47] <hrw> thx
[13:47] <Laney> those bullet points are confusing
[13:47] <Laney> UCD aren't 'responsible' for anything
[13:48] <hrw> UCD just gets ubuntu membership. rest should be dropped
[13:48]  * hrw would apply for motu instead
[13:48] <micahg> well, the list should imply the bar for acceptance to some extent
[13:49] <Laney> i'd appreciate someone updating it :-)
[13:49] <hrw> http://pastebin.com/U5RGuec1
[13:50] <Laney> i like 'continue with sponsored uploads' too
[13:51] <hrw> Laney: add "rest is like for Prospective Developers" line? :)
[13:57] <micahg> I think it should list the duties, just not explicit responsibility
[14:00] <hrw> micahg: they are mostly same for out-of-ubuntu-members and for universe-contributors
[14:02] <micahg> hrw: indeed, but there's some level of participation reUCD
[14:03] <micahg> s/reUCD/required to be a UCD/
[14:03] <Laney> the 'significant and sustained' barrier still applies
[14:03] <ari-tczew> wgrant: could you update http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/multidistrotools/ for oneiric?
[14:09] <wgrant> ari-tczew: Done.
[14:10] <ari-tczew> thnx
[14:40] <wejaeger> Hey, anyone up for reviewing http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/l2tp-ipsec-vpn
[18:23] <sebner> highvoltage: if you haven't sent the pics to laney, you can send them to me directly if you want :)
[18:24] <highvoltage> sebner: ok. I put it on facebook and tagged him, but I guess you'll want higher-res photos anyway :)
[18:24] <sebner> highvoltage: that and I don't use FB :P
[18:24] <highvoltage> (just finishing something up and will send then)
[18:24] <sebner> highvoltage: no rush!
[20:13] <alkisg> Hi, I want to prepare a .debdiff for VLC, which contains changes in binary files. How can I do that?
[20:13] <alkisg> (for some reason they also have the binary translations inside the source package - the specific files I want to update are el.po==text and el.gmo==binary)
[20:16] <geser> isn't el.gmo generated from el.po?
[20:17] <alkisg> It is. But it's also there in the source package
[20:18] <alkisg> I.e. after `dpkg-source -x` and without building anything, it's there
[20:18] <alkisg> So I should update it for the debdiff, no?
[20:19] <alkisg> (trying to prepare an SRU for lucid, for updated greek translations - I talked to the devs about it but I have problems with the binary file there :()
[20:20] <geser> isn't it regnerated during build from your patched el.po?
[20:21] <alkisg> It is. So I can just skip updating el.gmo in the .debdiff?
[20:21] <alkisg> (I believe the correct thing would be for the source package to not contain el.gmo...)
[20:26] <geser> yes and yes
[20:26] <alkisg> (it would also make the source package 17 MB smaller - or 6 MB compressed)
[20:26] <alkisg> Thank you, I'll try that
[20:37] <highvoltage> sebner: sending mail...
[20:40] <sebner> highvoltage: thanks very much :)
[20:40] <highvoltage> you're welcome!
[22:30] <___D> http://fpaste.org/mTME/ hmm
[23:11] <___D> what is going wrong here? http://fpaste.org/C1a1/
[23:12] <___D> he is missing a makefile, but the package doesn't have a makefile, it is only to install some conf files
[23:14] <paultag> ScottK: sorry I jumped in. I was only there because one of my buddies needed python package help. I re-read what I posted and I might have sounded like an ass. My bad.
[23:14] <ScottK> paultag: I thought it was fine.
[23:14] <paultag> I usually try to be a bit nicer, I felt a bit harsh. Thanks, though.
[23:15] <ScottK> I guarantee that morph thought you did, but I think he'd have thought that to anything other than "Morph: you are completely right".
[23:15] <paultag> ScottK: :)
[23:16] <___D> http://fpaste.org/UT3O/
[23:17] <___D> #
[23:17] <___D> W: openstudiomenu source: missing-debian-source-format
[23:17] <___D> #
[23:17] <___D> W: openstudiomenu source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.8.3 (current is 3.8.4)
[23:17] <___D> #
[23:17] <___D> W: openstudiomenu: new-package-should-close-itp-bug
[23:17] <___D> #
[23:17] <___D> W: openstudiomenu: copyright-has-url-from-dh_make-boilerplate
[23:17] <___D> #
[23:17] <___D> E: openstudiomenu: section-is-dh_make-template
[23:17] <___D> #
[23:17] <___D> W: openstudiomenu: empty-binary-package
[23:17] <paultag> ___D: that built fine, you just don't have a GPG key to sign with. Use the -k flag to pass in the key if it's not byte-for-byte identical with the changelog
[23:17] <___D> sorry
[23:18] <paultag> ___D: Whoh, use pastebin :)
[23:18] <___D> Pathin_, why is it an empty binary?
[23:18] <paultag> ___D: all of those are simple to fix, use the -i flag for a better description
[23:18] <paultag> Oh I missed that
[23:19] <paultag> ___D: What build chain are you using? Does it support DESTDIR?
[23:19] <___D> paultag, I am trying to build with http://debathena.mit.edu/config-package-dev/
[23:20] <paultag> Ahha
[23:22] <paultag> ___D: what's the rules file look like?
[23:22] <paultag> are you including config-package.mk
[23:22] <___D> paultag, http://fpaste.org/De5s/
[23:23] <paultag> hummm
[23:23] <paultag> ___D: and your control?
[23:24]  * ScottK figures that one is somehow broder's fault.
[23:24] <broder> ___D, ScottK, paultag: looking....
[23:24] <broder> but yes, likely my fault
[23:24] <___D> paultag, http://fpaste.org/O5Iv/
[23:24] <broder> (well, likely the fault of the other people working on Debathena for being too busy with finals to reply to ___D's e-mail)
[23:25] <paultag> broder: just finished my last finals, it was amazing. Free at last, free at last :)
[23:25] <broder> paultag: i graduated a year ago, which is why i was trying to let the current students deal with this :)
[23:25] <broder> it's character building
[23:25] <paultag> broder: Ahhh :)
[23:26] <paultag> broder: MIT, then?
[23:26] <broder> yeah
[23:26] <paultag> broder: I'm from Wellesley, right outside Boston
[23:26] <___D> broder, I changed some stuff since my last email, with this as example http://debathena.mit.edu/config-package-dev/code/examples-simple/debathena-conffile-example/debian/
[23:27] <broder> ___D: your package is called openstudiomenu, but you have a file called debian/openstudio-menu.install
[23:27] <broder> you need to either drop or add some hyphens somewhere
[23:27] <___D> broder, hmm ok
[23:33] <___D> broder, seems to be better now...
[23:35] <___D> broder, is it possible to install conf files in the home dir (knowing the username) or do you get problems with right etc. then?
[23:36] <broder> ___D: i don't believe that the package manager is the right way to deliver files to a user's homedir
[23:36] <___D> broder, you're right probably ...
[23:39] <___D> broder, o my it seems to work :)
[23:40] <___D> broder, when the package is removed, config-package-dev restores the default conf? And it is possible to upgrade the package (e.g. the conf files)?
[23:40] <broder> yes, and yes
[23:41] <___D> broder, paultag thanks!
[23:41] <paultag> I did nothing, thanks broder :)
[23:41] <paultag> I thought you were woried about the wrong error and gave you bad advice :)
[23:41] <___D> you're evil, right
[23:41] <___D> :p
[23:41] <paultag> :)