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nhainesjono: ooh, ooh, what's engineering management?00:02
jononhaines, eh?00:04
rwwI suspect nhaines is looking at Canonical's jobs page ;P00:04
nhainesjono: I just got a LinkedIn email saying you'd updated your profile.00:04
rwwoh. well never mind then ;P00:04
jononhaines, oh yeah00:05
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DarkwingDuckjono: Do you know where the design team holds the paw logo for Oneiric?00:53
jonoDarkwingDuck, no idea00:54
nhainesDarkwingDuck: probably in an Adobe Illustrator file.00:54
* DarkwingDuck grumbles00:54
* pleia2 chuckles00:55
nhainesI'd settle for updated business card artwork.  :(00:55
DarkwingDuckpleia2: Hey, I know... can you take a picture of the logo on your shirt?00:55
DarkwingDuckI'll just build an SVG from that.00:55
DarkwingDucknhaines: how many CDs do you think you guys'll need up in LA?00:56
pleia2it's in the dryer00:56
jamaltaDarkwingDuck: would this work? http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevi55/5705047100/00:56
pleia2there you go :)00:56
DarkwingDuckYES!00:56
DarkwingDuckjamalta: thank you!00:56
jamaltaDarkwingDuck: np :)00:56
pleia2DarkwingDuck: I'm shipping some directly to nhaines00:56
nhainesDarkwingDuck: I don't know.  My request was only for UHLF, OCLUG, and an independant classroom who asked UHLF.00:56
pleia2DarkwingDuck: I figure I send you the SD ones :)00:56
nhainespleia2: I realized about 10 minutes after I sent the email that I didn't send any shipping info, so let me know if you need it  :)00:57
pleia2nhaines: I replied asking if you had the same addy as last time :)00:57
pleia2if yes, then no!00:57
DarkwingDuckahhhhh, Got ya00:57
nhainespleia2: Ooh, I never saw it.... updating my phone on a Friday was fun but not smart... it wiped the phone's memory.00:57
nhainespleia2: Yup, same addy and everything.  :)00:58
pleia2ok cool00:58
nhainesNot only did it wipe the phone but it broke Netflix support so :(00:58
pleia2doh :(00:58
nhainesAt least I had the forethought to back up my data and apps first.  :)  But still.  Lost my gas mileage data.00:59
pleia2ok, so far CDs being sent out to San Diego (and surrounding), lake forest, sacramento and mt view03:05
nhaines\o/03:07
DarkwingDuckWhoot!03:07
nhainespleia2: were there enough CDs to send an extra set for OCLUG and for the training classroom?03:08
DarkwingDuckOhhh, Also, I'm starting plans for a SCaLE booth03:08
pleia2nhaines: yep, sending your final totals03:09
nhainespleia2: ooh, thanks!  I can let them know this week.  :)03:09
pleia2no 10.04s though, I think during that release the CA ones were sent to Flannel and grantbow got ones for up here from YokoZar03:09
pleia2I don't have any of them03:09
nhainesAh, yes, I did find that email after all (not used to Evolution's threaded views).  There may not be any more left, but if that's the case I'll lightscribe some up pretty.03:10
Eurekawiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/NattyRelease edited03:19
erichammondpleia2: I can act as  a distributor for CDs in the Los Angeles area if folks need them here.  I live and work on the East and West sides of the city.04:12
pleia2erichammond: ok, can you touch base with DarkwingDuck? I am sending a big package his way and he said he'd bring some up to the LA area (he's in San Diego)04:13
pleia2if he can't make it up I'll send some more down04:13
erichammondpleia2: will do.  (I also work with friends who drive North to the valley, South to the beach cities, and inwards to the Hollywood area)04:19
seidoserichammond: you're in l.a.?  hey, me too04:19
erichammondhmmm... What else could I distribute ;-)04:20
erichammondseidos: I live in Arcadia and work in Santa Monica.04:20
seidoserichammond: i thought you were in the Bay Area.  i thought i met an eric out there04:20
seidosi'm not familiar with the Arcadia area, Santa Monica yes04:21
erichammondspeaking of which, it's time for my commute back home.  Arcadia is just East of Pasadena.04:21
seidosi live near Culver City04:21
pleia2seidos: the eric you met up here is probably eps04:21
seidoshave a save trip04:21
seidos*safe04:21
seidospleia2: ah04:23
seidosi should've known there is more than 1 eric, there is more than one kevin04:23
rwwonly one of me so far i think04:38
rww(my brain just went "any other p... prin... wait no. umm. oh there we go"04:39
pleia2it's always cause for celebration when there is another elizabeth :)04:39
pleia2(for me anyway)04:42
DarkwingDuckMore tehen 1 David too04:46
Eurekawiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/TeamReports/11/April edited04:46
Eurekawiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/NattyRelease edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/TeamReports/Current edited | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/TeamReports/11/April edited05:03
YokoZarpleia2: for what it's worth I got CDs shipped directly from one of the women who organize UDS at Canonical (the one who wasn't there this time actually)05:44
DarkwingDuckAnyone still up?06:43
DarkwingDuckDoes this http://imm.io/5JcU look like this banner? http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevi55/5705047100/sizes/l/in/photostream/06:44
jmarsdenDarkwingDuck: The first one lacks the copyright symbol after the word ubuntu, and the text below the graphic, but otherwise, yes.  Why are we playing "spot the difference", by the way?07:02
DarkwingDuckBecause I build the graphic from scratch based off the photo.07:03
DarkwingDuckI wanted to see how it matched07:03
jonoDarkwingDuck, ping?07:12
DarkwingDuckjono: Pong07:13
MarkDudeHas anyone else decided to go to Maker Faire this Saturday?17:33
crashsystemswhere is that MarkDude ?17:34
MarkDudeSan Mateo17:34
MarkDudein the land of enchantment17:34
MarkDude:D17:34
crashsystemswhere is that in relation to sunnyvale?17:34
akknorthwest17:35
MarkDudeSunnyvale is much better17:35
MarkDudelol17:35
akkI thought the land of enchantment was New Mexico.17:35
MarkDudeIt will be enchanting- there will be self powered cupcakes there17:35
crashsystemsI don't know how long it takes to get just about anywhere around here, except SF.17:36
akkFigure maybe half an hour, 40 min from Sunnyvale to San Mateo (I'm not sure exactly where Maker Faire is, need to look that up).17:37
crashsystemsvia public transit?17:41
akkno, via car17:42
akkTransit times obviously depend on exactly where on each end ... Caltrain from Sunnyvale to San Mateo is probably 20 min or so, but you could check caltrain.org to know for sure.17:43
MarkDudehttp://makezine.com/makerfaire/bayarea/2011/alternative.csp17:49
MarkDudeCaltrain is actually easier than BART here17:49
MarkDudeFor TedxHayward- BART is better17:49
akkHmm, is parking expensive for those who drive? Any idea?17:51
akkOh, they have a page for it -- some free parking, woo. http://makerfaire.com/bayarea/2011/car.csp17:52
MarkDudeNo too far away it says17:55
iheartubuntuare there any easy linux solutions for hooking up something to a TV to view websites?17:55
iheartubuntumy wife mostly watches russian TV shows and russian movies from russian websites and click the full screen button. something easier than hooking up a computer to the TV17:56
iheartubuntui wonder if boxee can handle websites17:56
seidosisn't it like medibuntu or something?  i think the problem is more hardware though, need to have compatible output from computer to t.v./monitor18:10
iheartubuntudang, boxee doesnt have 32 bit anymore18:23
iheartubuntui tired installing the 64 bit deb my forcing the install. it installed, but wont run18:25
nhainesiheartubuntu: you want to view a computer using a TV without hooking up a computer to a TV?18:42
iheartubuntupretty much :)18:43
iheartubuntusomething like boxee probably18:43
iheartubuntuor XBMC18:43
sn9boxee is a computer18:43
sn9so is xbmc18:43
nhainesYeah, those are both computers.18:43
sn9so based on your specs, they don't qualify18:43
iheartubuntusomething simpler like a dvd player or playstation18:44
iheartubuntubut can handle browsing the web18:44
sn9a ps3 is a  computer, too18:44
nhainesMy Blu-ray player is running Linux.18:44
iheartubuntui realize at some point its a computer... im not trying to hook up an orange to the tv18:44
nhainesActually, so do the WD TV Live series of media players we make.  :)18:45
sn9would an orange suit your purpose?18:45
iheartubuntui cannot get a computer hooked to the TV without fighting it18:45
nhainesWhy not?  What are your TV's inputs?18:46
iheartubuntualthough ive never tried HDMI connection if thats possible18:46
iheartubuntuVGA out from a netbook18:46
iheartubuntuwhen connected to any TV the screen jumps around to different sizes. its not very user friendly.18:47
iheartubuntuboth in ubuntu and xp18:47
nhainesIf your TV doesn't have anything but VGA-in, it sounds like more like a monitor.18:47
iheartubuntui was unable to hook up a projector to the netbook either18:48
iheartubuntuakk was helping me way back on that18:48
iheartubuntuits either the operator or the netbook18:48
iheartubuntu:D18:48
iheartubuntuive tried these things on multiple TVs too18:49
sn9what netbook is it?18:49
nhainesAre we focusing on the netbook now or the TV?18:49
iheartubuntuacer inspire18:49
iheartubuntuand i have an acer laptop that wont hook up to TV or projector either18:49
sn9the celeron one or the atom?18:50
iheartubuntuwonder if its an acer prob18:50
iheartubuntuatom netbook18:50
sn9so it has intel video? are you using the intel proprietary binary video driver?18:50
sn9last i checked, atom required that18:51
iheartubuntuthis i do not know18:52
sn9unless you installed it manually, likely not18:53
iheartubuntui'll check it tonight thanks sn918:53
iheartubuntuno i didnt install it18:53
iheartubuntuim not even sure what version ubuntu is on it18:53
iheartubuntulike a 10.x version18:54
sn9i'm assuming vga is its only video output18:54
sn9btw, i know i'm late to the convo, but what exactly is your use case?18:55
nhainessn9: media playback and web browsing on a TV>18:55
sn9that is a potential solution, not the use case itself. what is the media playback and browsing needed for?18:57
nhainessn9: that's not a solution, it's the use case.  His wife wants to view Russian video and browse Russian web sites using a TV as a display.18:58
sn9i don't think that calls for a netbook18:59
nhainesMe either, but that's what he's using right now apparently.18:59
sn9a netbook would be undesirable for this in a multitude of ways19:00
nhainesThat might be why he's asking for alternate solutions.19:00
sn9HTPC ftw19:00
sn9mythbuntu19:01
sn9does she subscribe to RTN?19:01
nhainessn9: I was going to suggest mythbuntu, but he won't elaborate on the TV or other details, so...  it's hard to recommend anythinh.19:01
sn9or NTVi?19:02
nhainesPlus, he said he didn't want to use a computer, so that rules out Boxee, XBMC, Mythbuntu, and so on.19:02
sn9or Dish Network?19:02
sn9a netbook is a computer, so not wanting to use one is already moot19:03
nhainessn9: he wants to replace the netbook.  His current setup isn't working or presumably he wouldn't be asking.19:03
sn9HTPC is more suitable than a netbook19:06
iheartubuntuno, we have no cable tv. just a HD digital antenna I built :) we get an italian channel which she loves since she speaks italian19:07
nhainessn9: I agree but he doesn't want one.19:07
iheartubuntusorry. was working on a letter to my city council :) hope to get an idea of a local currency going here19:07
iheartubuntuwhat is an HTPC19:08
sn9comcast makes both RTN and ORT-C1R available19:08
iheartubuntusomething like a boxee?19:08
nhainesIt's a home theater PC.19:08
sn9are you on comcast?19:09
iheartubuntui dont mind boxee or the like if i dont have problems with a hookup19:09
DarkwingDuckiheartubuntu: You do graphics for the countdown/banners and such?19:09
sn9oh wait, i misread "no cable" as "cable"19:09
nhainesiheartubuntu: you said your TV only has VGA input and no other options.19:09
sn9there's an italian channel over the air??19:10
iheartubuntunhaines, yah vga19:10
iheartubuntuyep! here in LA anyhow19:10
sn9no, he said it also has hdmi19:10
iheartubuntucan boxee, mythtv, xbmc do web browsing though?19:10
sn9yes19:10
iheartubuntui dont have hdmi19:10
nhainessn9: no, he said he'd use HDMI if it were an option.19:10
iheartubuntudarkwingduck yes19:10
sn9it is an option if the tv has it19:10
DarkwingDuckiheartubuntu: http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Graphics/Oneiric/Ubuntu-Oneiric-Ocelot-Banner.png19:11
nhainessn9: he's said twice now the TV doesn't do anything but VGA.19:11
DarkwingDuckiheartubuntu: and here is the SVG if you want to use it. http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Graphics/Oneiric/Ubuntu-Oneiric-Ocelot-Banner.svg19:11
sn9must be a small tv19:11
nhainesMore projects should use SVG.19:12
pleia2nhaines: +119:12
iheartubuntusn9 - i think the italian channel in los angeles is 31.10 on digital HD19:12
iheartubuntui'll double check if interested19:12
nhainespleia2: if you haven't shipped those CDs yet I think I want to change my shipping address.  :P19:12
DarkwingDuckI do 99% of my stuff in inkscape now so all my projects will be SVG19:12
pleia2nhaines: you're in luck! the boxes are still sitting next to me, running out at lunchtime19:13
nhaines\o/19:13
iheartubuntuthere is a new inkscape book out. i just posted an article about it19:14
iheartubuntudarkwingduck - do you need me to do anything with the SVG?19:14
DarkwingDuckNo, I just wanted to give it to you in case you wanted to use the paws. AFAIK I'm the only one other then canonical that has them.... I built them last night.19:15
nhainesI know Unity gave a lot of Ubuntu users pause.19:18
DarkwingDuckhehehe19:19
MarkDudeUnity was not unifying?19:19
iheartubuntumy dad just upgraded yesterday... "what the h*ll are these icons? wheres my bottom bar?"19:20
DarkwingDuckhehehe19:20
sn9iheartubuntu: so other than the italian channel, most of the video is streamed over the 'net?19:20
iheartubuntupretty much yes.19:20
iheartubuntuthere are tons of russian tv channels on the net, and russian sites with movies, cartoons, and specials19:20
iheartubuntuits huge in russian to have movies made with the countries top stars each new years. she can only find them online and i dont have time to download them and burn them to a DVD19:21
sn9so they are mostly downloads, no?19:22
iheartubuntukinda like different fairy tales each year19:22
iheartubuntuthey are streaming videos19:22
sn9please tell me the streaming does not require SilverLight19:22
iheartubuntui used to download them from the tmp folder, use devede to burn them to a disc for her to watch19:22
iheartubuntui just dont have time anymore19:22
iheartubuntuno19:22
sn9i saw several russian movie sites that use it19:23
iheartubuntumostly flash and i think some of the sites are moving to html519:23
iheartubuntugavareet paruski?19:23
iheartubuntudarkwingduck, thanks :) i should make a 11.10 countdown now19:24
DarkwingDuck:D19:24
DarkwingDucklemme know when you do. I'll toss it up.19:25
DarkwingDuckI'll even build a Kubuntu and Xubuntu banners for ya.19:25
nhainesOnly 148 more days until Ubuntu 11.10.19:26
iheartubuntuim gonna be changing up my site dramatically soon. i think it will work out better long term19:26
DarkwingDuckI found a german site that had a couple. So I'm sporting that on my blog.19:26
iheartubuntupleia2 had some good input about the big graphic headlines. takes up a lot of space and i dont have time to change the graphic often19:27
DarkwingDuckiheartubuntu: have you seen my redone blog?19:27
sn9я пока-что не видел что бы фильмы показывали используя html519:27
MarkDudeHey thats not an alphabet I caan read19:28
sn9i think iheartubuntu's wife can19:28
nhainesThat reminds me.  Unicode broke on my server again and I need to fix it.19:29
iheartubuntudarkwing... ive been reading your blog posts in google reader19:30
iheartubuntuohh yes ive seen this19:30
iheartubuntuhttp://www.wonderly.com/19:30
iheartubuntui like it19:31
iheartubuntuits clean19:31
DarkwingDuckThanks.19:31
DarkwingDuckI need to write one today.19:31
nhainesNo more Ubuntu Bytes updates either.19:32
iheartubuntuno19:33
iheartubuntuthe program i was using was really buggy19:33
iheartubuntuTBO it was called19:33
iheartubuntuit crashed on me every time i created text or adjusted the shape of a characters head19:33
nhainesInkscape?19:33
iheartubuntui do want to continue it but hand draw it all and clean it up in inkscape19:34
iheartubuntuthis weekend was all about installing new windows on my house. man what a difference19:34
iheartubuntunow i can work on the website without freezing over or getting too hot inside :)19:35
iheartubuntui'd really like to get more into inkscape. i love it so far.19:36
iheartubuntuKrita looks like another promising program i could get into19:36
DarkwingDuckI only use Gimp for photos. Everything else is Inkscape19:37
seidosiheartubuntu: you installed windows?  epic.19:37
iheartubuntunot Windows19:37
iheartubuntuwindows19:37
iheartubuntu:D19:37
seidosthat's what i said19:37
seidoswhere did you get them?  home depot?19:37
iheartubuntuyes19:37
seidosdid they do the measuring for you?19:37
iheartubuntuno, friend has a window company19:37
seidosah19:38
iheartubuntuyah he came and measured everything19:38
iheartubuntui did a square craftsman style grid along the top quarter of the windows19:38
seidosthat's the hardest part, i think.  making sure you get the right size19:39
iheartubuntulooks nice19:39
iheartubuntui reduced the size of two windows in my living room to make room for a fireplace and built in bookshelves19:39
iheartubuntui did hand crank windows to keep the style and feel of the house19:40
sn9iheartubuntu: bottom line: HTPC _is_ your solution, and trying to get around that fact serves no purpose19:41
iheartubuntusn9 and i cand do that myself basically with mythtv, boxee or the like?19:42
iheartubuntumaybe i  should get away from the vga output19:42
iheartubuntui dont remember so many problems hooking up a laptop to a tv... i did it way back in 8 or 9 years ago when i was in russia and teaching my wife english with american dvds19:44
iheartubuntushe learned english from "sex and the city". now its all about shoes, purses, etc... looking back i should have brought beverly hillbillies episodes instead19:45
DarkwingDucklol19:45
sn9i learned english from sesame street19:45
DarkwingDuckOr star trek19:45
sn9still took years to pick it up after russian19:45
sn9is it a small and/or old tv?19:46
iheartubuntuwhat is your native language?19:46
iheartubuntulike a 30" flatscreen19:46
seidostv's are a pain, they are usually composite video, only until recently did t.v.'s get vga/dvi/hdmi connectors19:49
seidosin fact, it probably makes sense to call new t.v.'s monitors, anyway19:50
seidos"monitors"19:51
sn9my native language is russian19:52
sn9some say i still have the accent and some say i don't19:52
iheartubuntui would have never guessed sn9. im usually good at picking up accents19:53
sn9is that 30" at 16:9, or 4:3?19:53
iheartubuntuwe have friends who will not leave the russian districts of LA and their accents remain heavy. the friends who have moved away and spend more time speaking with native english speakers have the least accents ive noticed19:54
iheartubuntumy wifes english is pretty good. she majored in linguistics, which no one has heard of here in the states19:55
sn9i know people who still have the accent despite speaking only english and having forgotten how to speak russian at all19:55
sn9my dad had a ph.d equivalent in linguistics19:56
iheartubuntuwow... my dad lost his polish after he came to the states19:56
iheartubuntuif i spend any more time with linux i will lose my only spoken language of english :)19:57
sn9i though you could understand polish19:57
DarkwingDuckhehehe19:57
iheartubuntui can understand some polish and some russian, but not speak well. tolka nimnoga19:58
iheartubuntui can get around moscow fine19:58
DarkwingDuckI took russian in highschool19:59
DarkwingDuck:D19:59
DarkwingDuckThat was like 11 years ago though.19:59
sn9i took cantonese and latin19:59
DarkwingDucklatin? I wish I had learned latin19:59
iheartubuntuthey had russian in HS???20:00
iheartubuntuthe only languages here in los angeles are spanish or french where i am20:00
sn9no, they had cantonese and latin20:00
seidosnoam chomsky http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ghoXQxdk6s&feature=related20:00
iheartubuntui took german, but had no one to speak it with20:00
seidosi've heard of linguistics :)20:00
sn9i took a russian class when i enrolled at Sacramento City College, though, before i transfered to City College of San Francisco20:01
seidosi wish i learned spanish20:01
seidosi practice it from time to time on my own...20:02
seidosi'm going to take some biology and perhaps anatomy at west la college, assuming i can get a fee waiver20:03
sn9my issue with spanish is that everyone speaks a mile a minute, otherwise i would have picked it up as a child20:03
iheartubuntuhow did pleia2 like budapest? did you fall in love with the city?20:03
iheartubunturussians speak russian a mile a minute :)20:04
iheartubuntuim still watching nupogodi and have problems20:04
pleia2iheartubuntu: it was lovely :)20:05
sn9my copies of nu pogodi are silent 8mm20:05
seidossame here, sn9 .  maybe we should try practicing someday20:05
sn9original soviet retail releases, some of them20:05
iheartubuntuwow20:06
iheartubuntuhave u been back home ever?20:06
sn9i've introduced some splices over the years, though20:06
sn98mm tends to get tangled and stepped on, ya know20:06
sn9"back home" to me is san francisco20:06
iheartubuntui havent been to moscow for a few years now. im sure its much different than when i last left. massive building has been going on there the past decade20:07
philipballewi just got back home. but that is sac area. SF is a intreting place to have a home. i hear the cities are growing in russia?20:07
seidoswb philipballew20:08
sn9the only time i was in moscow was a two-week stay while awaiting the soviet exit visas20:08
seidosbrrr cold20:08
iheartubuntuXBMC wont install in Natty :(20:08
seidosi wonder what the trick is to surviving out there.  i assume energy isn't that easy to come by, like everywhere else20:09
philipballewcold is all relitive. people in so cal when i am there freak out over 50 dagrees when im here i go on a bike ride when its 50 because its a nice day20:09
iheartubuntumoscow was growing fast20:09
seidosi used to swim in the ocean here sans wet suit20:09
sn9iheartubuntu: try mythbuntu20:10
seidoscan't do it for very long.  i used to also snowboard.  coldest i've been in is -18F20:10
iheartubuntua friend of ours bought an apartment in moscow region at one of the ends of the moscow metro lines for $50k and now its worth like $350k. takes over an hour to get to the center of moscow20:10
seidosyeah, with population growth it makes sense that property values would go up20:10
seidoshey MarkDude20:11
iheartubuntumarkdude has won20:11
MarkDudeHey there seidos20:11
MarkDudeWhat did I win?20:11
iheartubuntu-30*C for me20:11
seidoshey where20:11
iheartubuntuyou won it all!20:11
sn9apparently, gasoline is WAY cheaper in russia than in california20:11
seidosand is cold all relative?20:11
seidoscan i go to pluto now if i'm tough enough?20:11
seidos:P20:11
iheartubuntuonly with vodka or champagne20:12
philipballewapperently it snowed at my house last week and i missed it... :(20:12
seidosi have to walk 10 miles today, i am procrastinating20:12
philipballewthat was about 3020:12
iheartubuntu10 miles??20:12
philipballewride a bike! its faster20:12
iheartubuntuseidos, you might try skipping those 10 miles. you will get there much faster20:12
iheartubuntuthe faster you skip the lighter you will feel too20:13
seidosiheartubuntu: skipping indeed20:13
iheartubuntualmost like you are flying to your destination20:13
seidosphilipballew: i don't have a bike and i can't build one20:13
seidosi'll just skip it *stays seated*20:13
seidosi don't think skipping is a good idea, i don't need to look anymore wimpy than i already do20:14
philipballewi see. creigslist rideshare!20:14
iheartubuntuhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skip_(gait)#Skip20:14
seidosnever heard of it20:14
seidoswhat's greener, walking 10 miles, or taking the bus?20:15
seidosi know which is cheaper20:15
iheartubuntuskipping is not wimpy at all!20:15
iheartubuntuskipping is greener!20:15
philipballewits a sport in some parts of the world20:15
iheartubuntuwho wants to see seidos skip 10 miles, please raise their hands20:15
* iheartubuntu raises hand20:15
philipballewHi, i am a professional athlete and i can skip!!!20:15
seidosthis isn't a democracy, it's a dictatorship20:15
iheartubuntudo we have a second motion?20:15
seidosprofessional athletes get paid20:16
philipballewi second the motion!20:16
iheartubuntuwhat if you becvome a professional skipper20:16
seidosthat would be totally awesome20:16
philipballewyou could pay people to watch you20:16
seidosi could pay people to not watch me20:16
iheartubuntuthe government can watch you20:17
seidos"i'll give you 5 cents if you'll just turn the other way"20:17
seidosEchelon?  here?  oh no, please don't get up *BOOM*20:17
philipballewthe gov probably already is!20:18
seidoswe are the government o_o20:18
philipballewin a sense20:18
seidosi haven't voted in years20:18
seidosin a sense20:18
iheartubuntuyou create a sort of kinetic movement with skipping that makes motion much easier.20:18
iheartubuntumy wife and i skip everywhere20:19
seidosactually i was walking around with my arms, like cross country skiing20:19
seidosbut that was back in SF20:19
iheartubuntuwhenever we go to the oktoberfest we skip all around the place. skipping is easy after large quantities of beer too20:19
seidosi wouldn't do looney stuff like that around here20:19
seidossome snob with a poodle might laugh, and then not pay me for my trouble20:19
seidosit only seems easy after large quantities of beer20:20
MarkDudep/me was skipping the other day20:20
MarkDudeit was fun20:20
iheartubuntuskipping : to leap over lightly and nimbly20:21
seidoshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EPg4muXrzI20:21
iheartubuntusee what i mean? you feel light and get places much faster20:21
seidosoh, i've skipped20:21
seidosit's not like i've ever skipped before20:21
seidosdualistic serious xor funny20:21
iheartubuntuif you have to go to the bathroom you can even skip to the lue20:22
seidosmaybe i'll just walk on my toes20:22
seidosor electric slide20:22
MarkDudehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BblV6AQsd2s20:22
seidosi should probably limp20:22
* MarkDude just spent some time swinging also20:22
seidoshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBMT3OMEPwk20:23
seidosi <3 rise against20:23
MarkDudeYep- they are cool20:23
seidosnah, i take it back20:23
seidosi don't even know them20:23
seidos*closes youtube*20:24
MarkDudelol20:24
seidosah, to be entertained by a friend20:25
seidosor to entertain a friend20:25
seidosinstead of listening to the musings of strangers20:25
* seidos opens youtube again and goes to his own channel20:26
iheartubuntuseidos is going to skip part of those 10 miles today :) muuuhahahaaa20:26
seidosi might20:28
iheartubuntuYESSS!!!!20:29
philipballewi hope so20:29
iheartubuntubring a stopwatch20:29
iheartubuntutime yourself walking and time yourself skipping20:29
iheartubuntuyou could make a skipping app for ubuntu20:29
iheartubuntufeel how light you become20:30
seidosi think walking is probably more efficient, i'm not in a hurry to get there20:30
iheartubuntuand feel the energy fill your soul and mind, creating a positive vibration that will resonate with others around you.20:31
iheartubuntuskipping is contagious, so be careful20:31
seidosi would rather remain balanced20:31
seidosi will be positive when Reality itself is20:31
seidosnot feeling the skipping20:32
seidosperhaps if i were on the yellow brick road i would be20:32
iheartubuntu(d@mn)20:32
seidosor if i had ruby slippers20:32
iheartubuntusn9 - looks like mythtv has a browser plugin20:36
seidoshasta la pasta20:45
iheartubuntuare there any easy ways to watch shows on BBC or Seesaw that are located in UK?20:48
philipballewude the gogle uk search engine and google for those shows20:49
iheartubuntudoes anyone know what happened to the guy working for writeonglass.com who hosted an ubuntu get together in socal 6+ months ago?20:50

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