| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| snap-l | rick_h__: Well, your name is anonymous, with you icon as the frisbee icon, and it says that you haven't shared anything with me (private) | 03:09 |
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| rick_h__ | gotcha | 03:11 |
| greg-g | g'morning | 12:00 |
| rick_h__ | morning | 12:04 |
| rick_h__ | damn that deal of the day | 12:31 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: how dare you tell me of it | 12:31 |
| brousch | rick_h__: wallet lighter and kindle heavier today? | 12:34 |
| rick_h__ | yea | 12:36 |
| brousch | so many metaphors break down in the digital age | 12:44 |
| rick_h__ | yea, guess it's more "wallet found/used and kindle with less free memory today?" | 12:52 |
| rick_h__ | I've got to get me a DX this year | 12:53 |
| rick_h__ | hopefully they'll have new ones out around school time | 12:54 |
| brousch | i'm considering getting this http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920016632 | 13:18 |
| rick_h__ | I thought the point of app inventor was that you didn't need a book | 13:18 |
| rick_h__ | it was so easy kids could use it kind of thing? | 13:18 |
| rick_h__ | wow, 384 pages? | 13:19 |
| rick_h__ | guess I'm wrong...or lots of screenshots | 13:19 |
| brousch | hah | 13:20 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: I know, right? | 13:22 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l yea, record two books in two days | 13:22 |
| brousch | did you also see "Building Android Apps with HTML, CSS, and JavaScript"? http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920010067 | 13:22 |
| snap-l | That's a record? :) | 13:22 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: yea, there are a few books like that I've been checking reviews on | 13:22 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: lol, for me | 13:23 |
| rick_h__ | I had only gotten one deal before | 13:23 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: I thought it would have been 7 books in 2 days. | 13:23 |
| rick_h__ | but I'm starting to check my machine for bugs | 13:23 |
| rick_h__ | oh, I just mean deal of the day purchases | 13:23 |
| rick_h__ | lol, get books all the time, though I've been working hard to stick to the new year's resolution | 13:23 |
| brousch | i really need a tablet so i can read these things on the couch | 13:23 |
| brousch | rick_h__: a new year's resolution to buy _fewer_ books? | 13:24 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: yea, "read less..do more" | 13:24 |
| rick_h__ | bah, lcd isn't for reading, but man that DX is getting hard to resist | 13:24 |
| snap-l | The line is due for a refresh anyway. | 13:25 |
| rick_h__ | yea, why I'm waiting | 13:25 |
| rick_h__ | see what the new one is and maybe save some $$ on a used model | 13:25 |
| rick_h__ | Blazeix must be looking to upgrade soon :) | 13:25 |
| snap-l | ;) | 13:26 |
| brousch | i only have 1 hour stretches of time to read, so lcd is sufficient. it's just a pita to balance a laptop for reading on the couch | 13:27 |
| rick_h__ | yea, laptop reading is fail as well | 13:27 |
| rick_h__ | I do a lot of 'read to sleep' stuff | 13:27 |
| rick_h__ | so the ereader without the bright light is good for that last 30-60min before bed | 13:27 |
| brousch | i would looooove one of these http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/17/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-limited-edition-review/ | 13:28 |
| brousch | 1280x800 on 10" screen | 13:28 |
| brousch | also i want an android tablet so my son can play around with it | 13:28 |
| brousch | i'm getting annoyed that tigerdirect hasn't sent a replacement for my buggy archos tablet | 13:29 |
| snap-l | They may have trouble sourcing one | 13:34 |
| brousch | yeah, so send my money back ;) | 13:38 |
| brousch | damnit, they have the thing supposedly in stock in one of their stores in naperville, il. grab it off the shelf and send it to me! | 13:54 |
| rick_h__ | ruh roh, they've angered the brousch | 13:54 |
| brousch | well it's been a month, and i really wanted it for monday's mobile web development meeting | 13:55 |
| rick_h__ | ah, yea sucky | 13:55 |
| brousch | hm, it says i may be able to substitute. this is the same price http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7330044&CatId=6957 | 14:01 |
| brousch | damn fools cancelled my back order and credited me back, but didn't notify me by email | 14:31 |
| rick_h__ | heh, well at least it's not that they ignored you for a month | 14:34 |
| rick_h__ | now you can go order whatever you want | 14:34 |
| brousch | i should just bite the bullet and get a nook color | 14:45 |
| rick_h__ | heh, wait they have an announcment coming | 14:45 |
| rick_h__ | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2385535,00.asp | 14:46 |
| brousch | probably a new nook color now with encrypted bootloader! | 14:47 |
| rick_h__ | you know it | 14:48 |
| rick_h__ | they don'e like all that hacking | 14:48 |
| brousch | i can stay out of trouble with the wife by asking for it for my birthday 6/30. by that time i'll find out what the new one is | 14:51 |
| rick_h__ | there you go, now you're thinking | 14:53 |
| rick_h__ | I got in trouble, ordered a vacuum lol | 14:53 |
| _stink_ | rick_h__: did you create a comparison matrix for the vacuum too? | 14:55 |
| rick_h__ | heh no | 14:55 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: On the surface that doesn't sound troublesome | 14:55 |
| rick_h__ | I knew I wanted to try one of these dyson | 14:55 |
| rick_h__ | and woot had one so took the bait | 14:55 |
| rick_h__ | but it's over the agreed "we'll discuss with sig other" $$ | 14:55 |
| rick_h__ | so I got in trouble :P | 14:56 |
| brousch | foot-pounds of suction / decibel of noise? | 14:56 |
| _stink_ | hehe, i get it | 14:56 |
| rick_h__ | so brousch is a wise man | 14:56 |
| brousch | rarely | 14:59 |
| krondor | rich_h__: recorded some audio with that mic, it's working great! Thanks again. | 15:36 |
| rick_h__ | krondor: awesome | 15:36 |
| krondor | I was going to try to fashion a pop filter, but I think that will come after I get at least 1 episode out the door. | 15:37 |
| rick_h__ | heh yea | 15:37 |
| rick_h__ | you can actually have some decent distance on that to help some | 15:37 |
| rick_h__ | but with pop filters for $10 I just ordered one | 15:37 |
| krondor | oh wow didn't realize they were so cheap. I was going to do the felt thing and try to make it but for 10 bucks yeah I'll just buy one. | 15:38 |
| jrwren | make your own pop filter by going under the sink and getting a spounge | 15:38 |
| krondor | jrwren: are you speaking of the carbonated variety? | 15:39 |
| jrwren | i have no idea. | 15:40 |
| rick_h__ | krondor: ok lied: http://goo.gl/Epetw | 15:41 |
| rick_h__ | that's the one I got and it's $16 right now | 15:41 |
| rick_h__ | but there are some down to $12 it looks like | 15:42 |
| rick_h__ | and up to $50 | 15:42 |
| rick_h__ | try a metal one out for me lol | 15:42 |
| rick_h__ | I don't hear grat things about those | 15:42 |
| rick_h__ | but they pack/travel better | 15:43 |
| krondor | yeah that's true, maybe I'll make one initially and see how well it performs. Felt or nylon is cheap enough... | 15:46 |
| rick_h__ | yep | 15:46 |
| wolfger | only 148 days to go... time to switch repos to the ocelot | 16:08 |
| rick_h__ | http://techland.time.com/2011/05/18/playstation-network-security-woes-continue-with-new-exploit/ | 16:20 |
| rick_h__ | man, how much $$ you think sony has dished out to security companies and they still can't get it right | 16:20 |
| snap-l | nice | 16:21 |
| snap-l | Seems they're in for a continued world of hurt. | 16:21 |
| rick_h__ | well at this point it's like they've put out a calling card | 16:22 |
| rick_h__ | "want to be cool, join the crowd of folks that have hacked up sony! We want you! to hack us up good" | 16:22 |
| krondor | that's not really a new hack is it? I mean they're just saying that they took the reset password page offline because hackers compromised the security questions. | 16:23 |
| krondor | that's kind of a fallout from the first hack right? | 16:23 |
| rick_h__ | "Hello, this is Sony. We suck...so can you please change your password *again*" | 16:23 |
| rick_h__ | well it's a mix | 16:23 |
| rick_h__ | part of opening back up is asking everyone in the system to please change your password before you can log back in | 16:23 |
| rick_h__ | but once everyone changes their passwords, the original hackers (who have your email/birthday) can just change it to something else | 16:23 |
| rick_h__ | since that's all that's required to change a password | 16:24 |
| rick_h__ | the original plan was that you could only change your password from the place you first set it back up at | 16:24 |
| rick_h__ | but guess the token/etc isn't verifying correctly | 16:24 |
| rick_h__ | so your buddy down the street that knows your birthday could reset your password from his machine lol | 16:24 |
| rick_h__ | at least that's how this reads | 16:25 |
| krondor | ah ok, so that's the second piece then. Yeah not so good... | 16:25 |
| krondor | so this will all end with sony sending two factor tokens to everyone | 16:25 |
| rick_h__ | oh awesome, I can see it now | 16:25 |
| rick_h__ | "dammit, I'm high and just want to kill some people, where the $#@$%#@ is that token generator!?!?!?!" | 16:25 |
| wolfger | Can't they just do simple e-mailed password resets, like everbody else in the world? | 16:26 |
| rick_h__ | "the new sony contrller, now with bio auth...simply point the red laser at your eye to log in" | 16:26 |
| rick_h__ | no, they wanted to limit it to the devices | 16:26 |
| rick_h__ | you have to do the changes from your ps2 | 16:26 |
| rick_h__ | ps3 | 16:26 |
| wolfger | lame | 16:26 |
| rick_h__ | well the idea is ok. Help use the device as part of auth | 16:27 |
| rick_h__ | but if you scew up...*sigh* | 16:27 |
| rick_h__ | at least it sounds like a security firm found/notified them | 16:28 |
| rick_h__ | nothing in here about real exploit at this point | 16:28 |
| krondor | wasn't it uncovered as part of the Japanese government's audit? They didn't allow them to turn psn back on in japan until the government was satisfied it was secured. | 16:29 |
| wolfger | "Mexican authorities find 513 illegal immigrants in 2 tractor-trailers". Those crazy college kids! | 16:30 |
| wolfger | Always trying to see how many people they can stuff in one vehicle. | 16:30 |
| wolfger | there were 513, so clearly one team beat the other by at least one person | 16:31 |
| Blazeix | so close to 512. then we'd have nice power of 2 numbers. | 16:31 |
| snap-l | If I were a PS3 owner heavily into networked gaming, I'd be furious right now | 16:38 |
| Blazeix | my coworker hasn't been able to complete Portal 2 yet because of it | 16:38 |
| snap-l | Wow, that sucks | 16:39 |
| brousch | is there a way to measure how much more productive the world has been during this outage? | 16:39 |
| snap-l | It's a false productivity with everyone trying to get to the network every five minutes. ;) | 16:40 |
| jrwren | what outage? | 16:45 |
| rick_h__ | sony PSN | 16:46 |
| wolfger | somebody must die | 16:55 |
| rick_h__ | they're running out of IT folks in japan | 16:56 |
| wolfger | oh, I wasn't referring to Sony. I couldn't care less about gaming consoles | 16:58 |
| wolfger | I meant, somebody here must die | 16:58 |
| wolfger | For starters, I just got an e-mail that was addressed to "Friends_of_Fred_Shadko"... a group ID that apparently everybody in Chrysler (or at least everybody in ITM) was added to, whether they'd ever heard Fred's name before or not. | 17:00 |
| wolfger | The e-mail contained a link to a Notes document (we've migrated away from Notes) which then contained a Word document. | 17:00 |
| wolfger | that's 2 or 3 different kinds of stupid | 17:01 |
| wolfger | possibly 4 | 17:01 |
| _stink_ | awesome | 17:01 |
| wolfger | and the Word doc didn't contain anything that couldn't have just been pasted in the body of the e-mail to begin with. In fact, most of it was. | 17:02 |
| wolfger | and I'm still wondering who Fred Shadko is, but I'm tempted to go to his retirement party anyways. | 17:03 |
| wolfger | perhaps I'm just grumpy | 17:10 |
| jcastro | http://acko.net/blog/on-termkit | 17:10 |
| jcastro | call it the rick heart attack kit! | 17:10 |
| wolfger | Hey, don't bash monospace! | 17:12 |
| wolfger | Monospace fonts are FTW | 17:12 |
| wolfger | variable width fonts are just asking for trouble. Don't believe me? Come take a look at the crap application I'm involved with... :-p | 17:14 |
| snap-l | jcastro: I hope that whatever this gent is working on works for him | 17:25 |
| snap-l | because I'll likely never use it | 17:25 |
| snap-l | I don't need the ADD version of GNOME-DO in my terminal. | 17:26 |
| ColonelPanic001 | heh | 17:26 |
| jcastro | My idea is more conservative | 17:26 |
| jcastro | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/terminal-lens.png | 17:26 |
| snap-l | Meh | 17:27 |
| jcastro | meh your face | 17:28 |
| ColonelPanic001 | not in public | 17:28 |
| wolfger | Now that's what I'm talking about... | 17:29 |
| wolfger | It's pretty, but it's still a term window | 17:29 |
| wolfger | and monospace | 17:29 |
| snap-l | Meh | 17:30 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I don't see the advantage | 17:30 |
| Blazeix | well, I think it'd be pretty cool to integrate termkit as a lens. | 17:31 |
| snap-l | I use the terminal to get shit done | 17:31 |
| ColonelPanic001 | the input is t the top? So it's all in top-to-bottom order? That'd be confusing to me | 17:31 |
| ColonelPanic001 | and making it bigger just doesn't do much for me | 17:31 |
| snap-l | Uness it works via SSH, it's no good to me | 17:35 |
| wolfger | you remote access people... | 17:38 |
| snap-l | Yeah, we're killing the internet. | 17:38 |
| Blazeix | well, it'd be in addition to urxvt, of course. If it's a lens it'd be just used for local access. | 17:39 |
| Blazeix | I can't imagine myself sshing via a lens. If I had to do serious bash scripting or remote sessions, I'd use a standalone terminal | 17:39 |
| snap-l | ++ | 17:43 |
| snap-l | http://blog.iso50.com/2746/vt100-user-guide/ | 17:44 |
| rick_h__ | Blazeix: it's the return of tilda/yaquake | 17:47 |
| rick_h__ | just as a lense shortcut vs a drop down | 17:47 |
| rick_h__ | all that wasn't cool then is cool now | 17:47 |
| Blazeix | yeah, that's why the termkit integration would differentiate it | 17:48 |
| rick_h__ | I'm missing the termkit bit? | 17:48 |
| rick_h__ | why would we have a node/js based terminal there? can't it just incorp gnome-terminal or something? | 17:49 |
| Blazeix | ah, see jcastro's link http://acko.net/blog/on-termkit | 17:49 |
| krondor | that link both offends and intrigues me, I don't know what to think | 17:50 |
| rick_h__ | right, oh you just mean the ui-ish of it? | 17:50 |
| rick_h__ | I thought you meant more the embedded js tech of it, like gnome3 js stuff | 17:50 |
| rick_h__ | sometimes I feel like such a bad guy | 17:51 |
| rick_h__ | boss is all excited about: http://fanstatic.org/ | 17:51 |
| rick_h__ | and all I can do is think about how it solves the wrong problem the wrong way ugh | 17:52 |
| Blazeix | oh, I'm not sold on the json passing yet, though it could be neat. | 17:52 |
| Blazeix | mainly just basic user stuff like nice progress bars, cat-ing images, etc | 17:52 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: What is this supposed to solve? Looks like Python CDN | 17:53 |
| rick_h__ | kind of, he's all excited that he can (in python) say which .js and .css to include | 17:53 |
| rick_h__ | so that pages without a date picker don't get datepicker code | 17:53 |
| rick_h__ | but now each page hash it's own url for .js and .css files, causing you to miss caches much more often | 17:53 |
| rick_h__ | when just using library cdn's, or moving your files to a diff subdomain (static.xxx) and all that would make a much bigger difference | 17:54 |
| rick_h__ | but he's all happy and wants to defend it to no end | 17:54 |
| snap-l | Why not use this for a static CDN subdomain? | 17:54 |
| rick_h__ | and I don't want to deal with it so want to crush it | 17:54 |
| snap-l | Ah, OK. ;) | 17:54 |
| rick_h__ | so this isa wsgi layer you wrap around your app | 17:54 |
| rick_h__ | so the files come from your app via the same wsgi serving your app is under | 17:55 |
| rick_h__ | and you've got to do all the library setup, it's just more pita for no real gain | 17:55 |
| snap-l | This sounds like the problem of too few resources (one domain name) | 17:55 |
| rick_h__ | it's a number of problems | 17:55 |
| snap-l | ie: If I didn't have the ability to spin up CNAMEs like crazy, then it might help | 17:56 |
| rick_h__ | I'd much rather biuld something like the yui builder | 17:56 |
| rick_h__ | that's the right way to fix those kinds of issues imo | 17:56 |
| wolfger | Did this Planet post about bug triage make anybody else say "WTF"? http://blog.launchpad.net/bug-tracking/how-triage-launchpad-bugs | 17:56 |
| rick_h__ | and then he goes off "well what if we're on site with no net access"...ugh | 17:56 |
| wolfger | High importance is "Bugs we think we can fix in the next six months." I'm sorry... thinking you can fix it in x amount of time is more about low difficulty than high importance. | 17:57 |
| wolfger | And low importance basically means DIY or fuggedaboutit | 17:59 |
| snap-l | bug priorities are too overloaded anyway | 17:59 |
| tjagoda | There is a bug in priorities of bugs. | 17:59 |
| snap-l | Should be when to fix, not prioirity | 17:59 |
| snap-l | Immediately, ASAP, etc | 18:00 |
| wolfger | There should be some mechanism that links "This bug affects me" directly to priority. So that if a bug affects a lot of people, it gains more importance than bugs that affect few | 18:01 |
| snap-l | With a separate security priority | 18:02 |
| snap-l | I could abide by that | 18:02 |
| snap-l | Security priority: denial of service _> Serious goatse moment | 18:03 |
| wolfger | not necessarily security... I'd say a "priority" based on users complaining and an "importance" which devs set one of 3 levels. Critical for security issues or total breakage, High for non-security issues that adversely affect functionality, and low for annoyances. | 18:04 |
| snap-l | Sorry, but you need a secuirty path | 18:04 |
| snap-l | and make it separate | 18:04 |
| snap-l | you're once again overloading priority. ;) | 18:04 |
| snap-l | You need the secuirty path to be clean | 18:07 |
| brousch | if users are worried about a security bug they can add themselves to the "this affects me" and get it moved up the queue | 18:10 |
| rick_h__ | let me fix that for you "if users are worried about a security bug, they can apply the diff and recompile like everyone else out there!" | 18:12 |
| brousch | wtf, is this gentoo? | 18:13 |
| brousch | i just picked up some of this for a meeting tonight http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/12516/27857 | 18:14 |
| brousch | Thirsty Dog Old Leghumper Porter | 18:15 |
| wolfger | because everybody wants an Old Leghumper... | 18:17 |
| wolfger | and "I only *wish* this was Gentoo..." | 18:18 |
| wolfger | :-p | 18:18 |
| brousch | oooh, star trek cook book http://www.thinkgeek.com/books/nonfiction/e8ce/?cpg=159H&link | 18:38 |
| binbrain | brousch: your AA meeting lets you BYOB? | 18:38 |
| binbrain | anyhow, looks good ;) | 18:38 |
| brousch | barcamp grand rapids organizing meeting | 18:39 |
| binbrain | ah | 18:39 |
| binbrain | hmm, the NYC barcamp is at Microsoft's office, not sure I could be BYOB | 18:42 |
| wolfger | oh, don't let tjagoda see that link | 18:42 |
| tjagoda | I would never buy a cookbook with nelix on the cover | 18:55 |
| brousch | racist | 18:55 |
| tjagoda | Yes | 18:58 |
| tjagoda | I am racist against rainbow lion-lizards =P | 18:58 |
| brousch | maybe you're sexist. i bet if it was an orion slave girl on the covor you'd buy it | 18:58 |
| tjagoda | Orion slave girls are not rainbow lion-lizards. | 18:59 |
| wolfger | I bet if it was Neelix's wife on the cover you'd buy it | 18:59 |
| tjagoda | What part of racist are you people not getting | 19:01 |
| brousch | cripes. apparently i need a license on my blog posts now | 19:02 |
| tjagoda | do I need to exterminate the lion-lizards? =P ' | 19:02 |
| * wolfger is being intentionally obtuse | 19:02 | |
| brousch | i feel like a rock star | 19:02 |
| jjesse | brousch i saw your post got posted on facebook | 19:02 |
| wolfger | tjagoda is the Hitler of the Star Trek universe | 19:02 |
| brousch | jjesse: the tedxmuskegon site wants to republish it or use it | 19:03 |
| jjesse | 'interesting | 19:03 |
| tjagoda | If the Jack boots fir, sir. =P | 19:04 |
| * brousch wanders over to Consilience to see how the pros do it | 19:04 | |
| brousch | greg-g: why did you choose the cc-by-sa over just cc-by? | 19:19 |
| wolfger | because he wants you IP thieves to share | 19:21 |
| brousch | but they still have to give credit | 19:21 |
| wolfger | what's credit got to do with anything? | 19:23 |
| brousch | it seems like it would limit reuse of the work | 19:23 |
| brousch | only other freetards can reuse it | 19:23 |
| wolfger | LOL | 19:23 |
| wolfger | if you don't believe in releasing things as CC, don't steal things from other people's CC works. That's very simple. | 19:24 |
| wolfger | sa is the "don't be a f'ing hypocrite" clause | 19:25 |
| wolfger | Of course, I don't really speak for greg-g... his reasoning may or may not be the same. | 19:26 |
| brousch | i guess i'm more mit than gpl | 19:35 |
| greg-g | brousch: did you have a specific use of mine in mind, or just in general? | 19:38 |
| brousch | general | 19:40 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: is trying to stir up trouble | 19:40 |
| brousch | for once i'm not | 19:40 |
| brousch | i'm trying to put a license on my blog | 19:41 |
| greg-g | ahhhh, so... | 19:41 |
| greg-g | in general, I like the use of BY-SA over just BY because it makes sure that is someone reuses my work when creating something new, I can build off of their derivative. This argument usually works to help people move away from -NC/ND restrictions | 19:42 |
| greg-g | like, if a political campaign that yo udon't like uses your photo, you can then create a derivative of their ad under BY-SA to comment on it | 19:43 |
| greg-g | with BY, you don't (necessarily) have that option | 19:43 |
| brousch | interesting | 19:43 |
| greg-g | but... with that said (sorry, phone call)... | 19:47 |
| rick_h__ | "go find your own license silly!" | 19:47 |
| rick_h__ | oh sorry, didn't mean to complete your sentence there greg-g :P | 19:47 |
| greg-g | BY does have less restriction, thus is pretty quantifiably "more re-usable" | 19:47 |
| greg-g | haha | 19:47 |
| greg-g | i encourage the use of CC:BY for educational/scholarly works | 19:47 |
| greg-g | and BY-SA for creative works | 19:48 |
| greg-g | that distinction is hard to make sometimes, and the benefits of SA over just BY can start to diminish as time goes on... but, that's my general rule of thumb | 19:48 |
| brousch | how many times a day do you reeat that? | 19:48 |
| brousch | repeat | 19:48 |
| greg-g | hah, about 6.8, on average | 19:49 |
| brousch | you have infinite patience. it is amazing | 19:49 |
| greg-g | with my job, you have to. | 19:49 |
| rick_h__ | it's the beard | 19:49 |
| greg-g | And, really, to try and effect change in a complex system, you *really* have to | 19:49 |
| greg-g | rick_h__: indeed | 19:49 |
| greg-g | :) | 19:49 |
| brousch | two times and i'm yelling IT'S ON MY BLOG LOOK IT UP | 19:50 |
| greg-g | btw, /me waves from orlando | 19:50 |
| brousch | oh, nice | 19:50 |
| brousch | hanging with Mickey? | 19:50 |
| wolfger | it's easier to have patience in Orlando | 19:50 |
| greg-g | yeah, here for a conference, giving the lunch time keynote on CC | 19:50 |
| greg-g | yeah, my evening is going to consist of a pool, a hot tub, a drink, and reviewing my preso | 19:51 |
| greg-g | not all at the same time | 19:51 |
| brousch | why not? | 19:51 |
| greg-g | even though my x200s is awesome, it is not water proof | 19:52 |
| wolfger | pool and hottub at the same time? Would be difficult and counterproductive | 19:52 |
| greg-g | oh yeah, that too | 19:53 |
| wolfger | often they are separate by more than the length of one person, as well | 19:53 |
| greg-g | "I make my own hottub" | 19:53 |
| wolfger | so: difficult -> impossible | 19:53 |
| brousch | yikes | 19:53 |
| wolfger | eww | 19:53 |
| brousch | must be all that natural food | 19:53 |
| wolfger | "Why is it warm and bubbly around that guy?" | 19:53 |
| brousch | thanks for the help, greg-g | 19:57 |
| greg-g | brousch: of course, if you have any specific issues/concerns you have in mind, let me know, I might have some pointers | 19:58 |
| brousch | tedxmuskegon wants to republish a blog post i wrote. that's when i realised i had no license | 19:59 |
| greg-g | ahhh | 20:03 |
| snap-l | https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/o2012-made-in-the-usa-mug?source=20110518_js_nd | 20:54 |
| snap-l | brilliant | 20:54 |
| brousch | ohman, i am so tempted to get that. half the people i work with are birthers | 20:56 |
| snap-l | Sorry to hear that. | 20:57 |
| brousch | yeah, that's the worst part of west mi, all the conservative nutjobs | 20:58 |
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