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jgouldHmm... I wonder why I can't switch to my USB mic...00:05
jgouldHmm... I can sync music and whatnot to my wife's iPhone.  That means I can do the same to my iPod...00:41
dmcglone1Hi all01:01
TheErkWhat up D M C?01:02
canthus13Run, D M C!01:19
jgouldHeh01:20
paultaghahaha01:20
paultagthat's gold01:20
* jgould gives up01:29
paultagYES! Made a pun without relizing it01:30
jgouldO.o01:31
Cheri703hello folks01:32
jgouldHello01:33
dmcglone1sorry, I was brushing my daughters hair01:40
dmcglone1Not much is up01:40
dmcglone1how far do I have to run canthus13?01:41
jgouldThat was nice of you, dmcglone101:52
jgouldstupid blackberry website02:00
canthus13dmcglone1: Heh.02:05
dmcglone1I had to brush both of the girls hair, of course when 1 gets something the other has to have it too.. LOL02:17
jgouldLOL02:18
jgouldI would have put thier hair in pigtails... :)02:18
dmcglone1LOL02:19
* canthus13 would just shave 'em bald.02:19
dmcglone1LOL canthus02:19
jgouldYou can't do taht to little girls...02:19
canthus13jgould: Good thing I have 2 boys. :)02:20
jgouldfair point02:20
dmcglone1schneid O'conor did ;-)02:20
canthus13So did the chick from Star Trek: The Motion Picture02:21
canthus13and she was pretty hot...02:21
jgouldI get to learn how to do things like pigtails if we ever have kids02:21
dmcglone1I'll just shave their head and tell them "nothing compares to you" ;-)02:21
canthus13Heh.02:22
jgouldAww02:22
dmcglone1My girls don't like putting their hair in pony tails02:22
jgouldwow...  Normally they don't like it down02:22
dmcglone1but I do shave my sons head02:22
dmcglone1not all the way to the skin, but really short02:23
dmcglone1he come to me one day and said will you shave my head, I'm tired of combing it every morning02:24
dmcglone1lol02:24
jgouldLOL02:24
jgouldI actually want to grow mine out02:25
dmcglone1LOL back in my day, I had long hair02:25
dmcglone1I got old and now I'm like my son, I hate to brush it every morning.. LOL02:26
dmcglone1If my hair gets long enough that I have to brush it, I just stick my hat on and go..02:26
jgouldHeh02:27
dmcglone1I'm about to move this party upstairs, I got up at 3am this morning02:30
jgouldI was eating dinner at 3Am02:31
dmcglone1just getting off work?02:32
jgouldNo,  Got hungry02:32
jgouldMy feet are cold02:33
dmcglone1you know what do when my feet are cold, I plug in a heating pad and put it on the floor and put my feet on it :-)02:34
jgouldSmart idea (except I dont' have a heating pad)02:35
dmcglone1Ah dang, I love my heating pad02:35
dmcglone1my wife likes to keep a fan on half the damn time, and I get freakin cold so my heating pad is my best friend.. LOL02:36
jgouldit could be 78 in here and I'll be cold02:37
dmcglone1I'm the same way02:37
jgouldAny one ever looked at Linux Certification02:42
dmcglone1I Looked into the red hat certification but it was expensive02:45
dmcglone1I got my A+ though02:45
dmcglone1jgould: at eastland/fairfield career center they give them programs pretty cheap02:49
dmcglone1and free if you get any type of govt assistance02:50
jgouldI don't...02:50
dmcglone1IIRC the course and test only cost me 450.00 or It may have been 9.00, but this was way back in '9902:51
dmcglone1that was supposed to be 550.0002:52
dmcglone1not 9.0002:52
jgouldhow do you get 9.00 out of 550.0002:52
dmcglone1my damn thumb hit the touchpad and screwed it all up02:52
jgould?02:52
jgould LOL02:52
dmcglone1empathy doesn't have an undo (ctrl + v)02:53
jgouldI have a hate hate relationship with my trackpad in Linux02:53
dmcglone1I have a hate hate relationship with my dang netbook and the touchpad!02:54
dmcglone1somehow, someway everything I try and type gets all screwed up because my thumbs hit the touchpad02:54
dmcglone1"disable touchpad while typing" doesn't work at the correct time02:55
jgouldHeh02:55
dmcglone1it's like it sneaks in, in between words or something02:56
dmcglone1lol02:56
dmcglone1It's just the way this netbook is made and the way I type :-/02:56
jgouldI'm close to giving up on Linux for the time being02:57
dmcglone1I'm getting better at keeping my thumbs away from it though02:57
dmcglone1on your apple right?02:57
jgouldYeah02:57
dmcglone1have you tried fedora or suse or mandriva?02:58
dmcglone1I know it's not ubuntu, but one of them might work for you for the time being02:59
dmcglone1Pretty much the only difference is they are RPM based distro's02:59
jgouldI have no clue how to use an RPM based distro.03:00
dmcglone1it's the same as Ubuntu, but the packages are .RPM instead of .deb03:00
dmcglone1debian based distro's use the package apt and the command: apt-get..... to install pacakges, rpm uses: rpm -i <packagename>03:02
Cheri703hooray for being tech support for friends and family03:03
jgouldHeh03:03
Cheri703had two different calls tonight about network issues03:03
dmcglone1I feel your pain Cheri703 and I bet you didn't get paid either03:03
dmcglone1:-)03:03
dmcglone1The things we do for family :-/03:04
Cheri703well, one was parents, and one was the friends who give us rides and let us use their car :) so it's ok03:04
dmcglone1even parents should pay.. LOL03:04
Cheri703they're buying me a nook :)03:04
jgouldLOL03:04
dmcglone1they brought us into this world they can help us succeed03:04
dmcglone1LOL03:04
dmcglone1If jesus had a computer I'd make him pay! ;-)03:05
jgoulddamn it.  my keyboard stopped working03:07
dmcglone1Parents are supposed to buy us nooks and everything anyway03:07
dmcglone1lol03:07
Cheri703ha, right03:07
dmcglone1jgould: you have to punch the keys to make it work remember03:07
dmcglone1lol03:07
dmcglone1Cheri703: my mom lives with me, so I buy her everything :-/03:08
Cheri703:/03:08
dmcglone1If my dad had a computer and it needed fixeb, I'd fix it........ by shoving it up his ass!03:10
jgouldI dont' think that would help03:10
dmcglone1No, but it would help his attitude.. LOL03:10
dmcglone1he'd be talkin in binary.. LMAO03:11
jgouldHeh03:12
jgouldok... Fox is going to give us tips and tricks to win at playing angry birds...03:13
dmcglone1you talking about Fox news?03:14
jgouldNo, Channel 2803:14
dmcglone1Oh ok, same company :-/03:14
jgouldis that really news worthy?03:15
dmcglone1turner needs to go play with his angry birds03:15
dmcglone1if it is I'd be surprised03:16
jgouldHeh03:16
dmcglone1I get a kick out of watching O'Reilly though03:17
dmcglone1around this time of year, nothing is ever on tv03:19
jgouldagreeed03:19
* jgould shivers03:20
Cheri703woo for downloading things03:20
dmcglone1A&E is nothing but re-runs of the first 48, discovery is them dumb fishin shows in the amazon and more re-runs on history03:21
jgouldFirst 48 is a good show03:22
jgould"How to put on sunscreen so that it doens't mess up your makeup"  <-- this is news worthy (even on a morning show)03:24
dmcglone1Yeah it is.03:24
dmcglone1haha03:24
dmcglone1thats turner for ya03:24
dmcglone1worthless03:24
jgouldFootball players make too much money03:25
dmcglone1the president makes to much money. LOL03:26
dmcglone1almost 400,000/yr03:27
jgouldThe president only makes 400K a year. (but look at his expense account) but would you want that job?03:27
dmcglone1heck no03:28
dmcglone1I'd rather be a football player03:28
dmcglone1lol03:28
jgouldI would get killed on a football field03:28
dmcglone1so would I, but if I live long enough to enjoy 100,000 I'd be happy..03:29
jgouldI'd probably make a better girl than a guy03:30
dmcglone1dang man you sound like me!03:30
dmcglone1lets try out for the Ubuntu University cheerleading squad03:30
jgouldI'm a little guy.  I stand 5'4".  XD03:31
dmcglone1I'm tall but skinny as a toothpick03:31
dmcglone1heck I think a toothpick is an overstatement03:32
jgouldI have a bit of a belly, but other than that I'm built like a girl03:32
dmcglone1nothing here... LOL03:33
dmcglone1I have a real high metabolism. funny they got a pill to lose weight, but not gain weight03:35
jgouldHeh03:35
dmcglone1funny thing is everyone gets mad at me because I can eat 3 times more than them and not gain any weight03:36
canthus13dmcglone1: It's called 'weed'.03:36
jgouldLOL03:36
dmcglone1LOL canthus1303:36
dmcglone1very true, but not03:36
jgouldRicart's commercials are stupid03:37
dmcglone1I smoked that crap once when I was 15 and I freaked the hell out, and I'll never ever touch that stuff again LOL03:38
dmcglone1jgould: yes they are03:38
jgouldNever smoked it03:38
dmcglone1I was freaking running up and down the street trying to get it to wear off03:38
dmcglone1took a damn cold shower too03:38
dmcglone1freakin nothing worked03:38
dmcglone1never again will I smoke weed. although I think the bag I got was laced, I'll still never smoke it03:40
dmcglone1on the other hand, a contact buzz isn't all that bad.. LOL03:42
jgouldI hate being hungry and not having any money03:42
dmcglone1here's how you solve that, quit eating so much and you'll have money.... ;-)03:42
jgouldHeh03:42
dmcglone1probably why I'm so skinny to begin with. :-/03:43
jgouldyou like your money more than food?03:44
dmcglone1I just bum food ;-)03:44
dmcglone1nobody likes to see a skinny little inkling running around groaning he's hungary03:45
jgouldHeh03:45
dmcglone1I'm just kiddin around though03:46
jgouldhave you heard about this guy that claims that the world will end on Satuday?03:47
* Cheri703 needs to go heat up some leftover pizza03:47
dmcglone1this saturday?03:47
jgouldsupposedly...03:47
dmcglone1I thought they were saying it was gonna be in 201203:47
dmcglone1crazy people03:48
jgouldthat's the mayns.  this is some pastor from CA03:48
dmcglone1just like the milinium bug bull crap03:49
jgouldYep03:49
dmcglone1so what were they advertising? lol03:49
dmcglone1gas masks?03:49
dmcglone1automatic blow up boats?03:50
jgouldat 6PM in every time zone (which God created, by the way...) there will be an earthquake and then we all die...03:50
dmcglone1caulk to seal your house up from the outside?03:50
dmcglone1stilts it is03:51
dmcglone1lol03:51
jgouldLOOL03:51
dmcglone1well I'll be praying for that poor sap03:52
jgouldI don't know how he came up with this...03:52
dmcglone1they are nuts. exactly why I don't watch fox03:53
jgouldI'm talking about this pastor guy03:53
dmcglone1was it on fox?03:53
dmcglone1I thought you were watching fox and got it from there03:54
dmcglone1my bad03:54
jgouldI was watching fox03:54
dmcglone1was that story on there?03:55
jgouldthey aired it03:55
dmcglone1Ok, then my comment stands.. LOL03:55
jgouldLOL03:56
* Cheri703 doesn't feel like getting up, but is hungry03:56
dmcglone1Cheri703: train your dogs to get it for you03:57
canthus13Cheri703: make your husband get it for you.03:57
Cheri703it would NOT make it past their faces...03:57
canthus13..I wonder if I could get sully to Antarctica?03:57
Cheri703and he went out in the rain to get to the store, so he's not going to do it...03:57
Cheri703canthus13: probably not very soon...03:58
Cheri703that's what good printers and/or photoshop are for :D03:58
canthus13Cheri703: Nah.. not 'til spring.03:58
canthus13but I can get him to Louisiana to have pictures at Ft. Polk.. eating crawfish...03:58
Cheri703:)03:58
Cheri703what was the reaction to the budapest pics?03:58
canthus13Bemused. :)03:59
dmcglone1why do you make him to that canthus13? promotional stuff or something?03:59
Cheri703hehe03:59
canthus13dmcglone1: a prank... sort of a roaming gnome type deal.03:59
dmcglone1heck thats an expensive prank03:59
canthus13dmcglone1: Nah.. Cost me 3 bucks so far...03:59
dmcglone1antartica?04:00
* jgould becomes indecisive again04:00
canthus13dmcglone1: That could be tough.. I need to find someone willing to accept him, take pictures, and send him back.04:00
dmcglone1LOL04:00
dmcglone1damn04:00
canthus13dmcglone1: I'm going to try to get him on a B-1 bomber courtesy of a high school buddy who flies one.04:00
dmcglone1You crazy man04:00
dmcglone1have your b1 bomber buddy drop him instead of a bomb into antartica.. LOL04:01
canthus13dmcglone1: A co-worker had him on his desk.. One day, I hung him with some mardi gras beads and left a suicide note.  Dude put him in a 'casket' with a eulogy.. said he was gonna have him rise easter morning.  THe night before, I snagged him and left a note saying he faked his death, and had to get away.04:02
canthus13So it's just kinda snowballed since.04:02
dmcglone1LOL04:02
dmcglone1is this sully a stuffed animal or a real guy?04:03
* jgould gets frustrated with linux04:03
canthus13He's been out drinking, woke up in an alley with a pantsless homeless guy, won an easter egg hunt, and gone to Budapest... Next stop is either Dyess AFB in Abeline, TX, or Fort Polk, Louisiana.04:03
canthus13dmcglone1: A plastic toy.04:03
canthus13dmcglone1: Sully from Monsters, Inc.04:03
dmcglone1Ah Ok see04:03
dmcglone1well I'm gonna hit the sack. I gotta get up bright and early :-/04:04
dmcglone1night all04:05
jgouldNight04:05
* jgould becomes indecisive again05:13
canthus13jgould: The blue one.05:13
jgouldnothing is blue05:13
canthus13fine. pink.05:13
jgouldmagenta?05:14
canthus13sure.05:14
jgouldHeh05:14
mathayi feel like a lot of people love the color cerulean.05:15
canthus13mathay: ew.05:15
mathayhahaha and when i say that, a dissenter.05:15
jgouldNever seen it05:16
paultagmathay: I like it05:17
paultagmathay: it's a classy joint05:17
mathayi just recall the crayola crayon color.05:17
paultagmathay: dude. I'm hopelessly addicted to Julie London05:18
paultagShe's so good05:18
jgouldUbuntu on MacBook, take 4039!05:21
mathaypaultag: she is. I haven't been listening to a lot of music lately though.05:24
jgouldUbuntu, Xubuntu...  decisions...05:25
paultagmathay: yeah, I can imagine.05:25
mathaypaultag: I'll probably check more of her stuff out when I hav ea computer again. I only really know Cry Me a River.05:25
paultagmathay: Aye05:26
jgouldWhy do the installers insist on creating one partiton for everything...05:31
canthus13jgould: easy for noobs.05:32
jgouldDarn those noobs05:33
jgould!05:33
canthus13most installers give you the option to do whatever the heck you want.05:33
jgouldThe Mac OS installer does a single partition.... you can't even tell it to put yoru /Users partition somewhere else...05:34
canthus13jgould: that would confuse people, so it's bad. :(05:36
canthus13fucking apple. :/05:36
jgouldIt's Apple's way or the highway...05:36
canthus13that's a good spot for a mac.05:37
* jgould plans to buy a machine from System76 (or dell or soemeone else that's friendly to us Ubuntu users) as soon as possible05:41
canthus13:D05:46
jgouldNow when that will be, I'm not sure05:46
canthus13Dell is more indiffernet than anything, but their stuff usually works.05:46
jgouldHeh05:46
canthus13...indifferent.05:47
BiosElementHmm, I really need to pay more attention to this channel >.>05:48
jgouldHeh05:48
jgouldThere is a channel?05:49
Unit193Or we could randomly ping you...05:50
jgouldhey, Unit193 is alive out there05:50
BiosElementPeople do that already :P05:50
BiosElementThat's why I stay out of large tech channels, everyone seems to type bios and then hit the tab key >.>05:50
BiosElementI have no idea why heh05:51
Cheri703blarghy blargh05:52
jgouldBlarg05:52
Unit193I actually don't get mixed up with Unity!05:52
BiosElementAhh, she lives hah05:52
Cheri703rawr05:52
BiosElementThere's a reason for that, no one cares about Unity. ;)05:52
jgouldLOL Unit19305:53
* jgould wanders toward the kitchen05:53
canthus13Unit193: that's because you're not Unity193.05:53
Unit193People switch from main Ubuntu to L/Xubuntu because of it...05:53
canthus13Unit193: because you don't have a y in your name?05:54
* BiosElement welcomes all converts into the Kubuntu dominion05:54
canthus13Ew.05:54
jgouldI'll stick with X/L/Ubuntu05:54
paultagI dig that not too many people have the stones to ping a random guy. My nick tends to blend in05:55
Cheri703Unit193: I talked with charlie-tca quite a bit at UDS (mostly about accessibility), he's the head of the xubuntu project I guess05:55
paultagplus I have even more blend-ey alt nicks05:55
jgouldso does mine.  at least there is one other j name before me Heh05:55
Cheri703Unit193: are you coming tomorrow night?05:56
BiosElementpaultag: At least you're pretty far down the list :P05:56
Unit193Cheri703: Yes, charlie is head of Xubuntu and I think I am going05:56
jgouldNow if I used my other name, I'd be the only S name in here05:56
Unit193canthus13: People would have switched to Kubuntu had my name had an X in it...05:57
Cheri703\o/05:57
canthus13Xunit193?05:57
jgouldThat's what I thought, canthus1305:57
canthus13Or Unix193...05:58
Unit193That would work.... People would ask "Why unix? Why not Linux?" ;)05:59
Unit193Cheri703 , paultag and BiosElement are all away ;)05:59
Cheri703hmm?06:00
BiosElementHmm?06:00
jgouldEh?06:00
Unit193The people had their status set as away.....06:02
Cheri703I don't think I'm away06:02
* canthus13 doesn't think so either.06:02
jgouldif she is the cat is talking for her06:02
* jgould prepares to throw this BlackBerry at a wall06:05
BiosElementTake pictures if you're gonna do that.06:05
BiosElement>.>06:06
jgouldAny one have any experence with the HTC Inspire?06:06
canthus13jgould: throw the Mac instead.06:06
jgouldThen I won't have a computer... :(06:07
Cheri703I think I'm off to bed. Have a good night.06:08
BiosElementNight Cheri70306:08
jgouldNight Cheri70306:08
canthus13jgould: Oh.. good point.06:08
canthus13but do you, really? You're only borrowing it from Steve Jobs as it is... :)06:09
jgouldHeh06:09
paultaglolwut06:09
paultagsorry I was coding06:09
canthus13And he seems pretty pissed about the way you're using it.06:09
paultagworking on some goodies06:09
jgouldthen he can give me my money back and I'll buy from System7606:09
jgouldFrom a review on the HTC Inspire: "I recommend it for teenagers who have patience"06:13
BiosElementOk, this is awesome06:18
BiosElementYou know all the rants from Comcast that bittorrent is destroying their network? Yeah, about that, I'm afraid it's not quite that simple. These stats are from a company comcast uses to throttle torrents ironically: http://www.gamepolitics.com/2011/05/17/netflix-biggest-hog-bandwidth-trough06:19
* Unit193 has used awesome06:19
canthus13Yep.06:20
canthus13Which pisses off comcast because they see it as revenue lost from their VOD services. :/06:20
canthus13Believe me, I hear the bitching where I work, and they have a point.06:20
jgouldThier VOD services probably arent' that great..06:20
canthus13Instead of making money from VOD, they're losing money from carrying netflix traffic.06:20
canthus13jgould: Ours are pretty good and we're a waaaay smaller company than they are.06:21
BiosElementLosing money? Not at the prices they charge for grandma to send a few dozen emails.06:21
BiosElement>.>06:21
jgouldAnd the utility companies are still allowed to have monopolies06:22
canthus13BiosElement: The truth is the TV side is almost to the point where there is *NO* profit at all. most cable companies are held afloat by internet and phone.06:24
jgouldOk, Flash in firefox under Ubuntu stinks...  Has anyone come up wiht a way to stream from netflix under Ubuntu?06:24
canthus13Flash sucks.06:24
BiosElementcanthus13: That's their problem, they shouldn't charge internet users to keep the other half of their failing business plan afloat. >.<06:25
Unit193dmc was trying to use moonlight06:25
canthus13BiosElement: It's not a failing business plan, it's greedy content providers.06:25
BiosElementcanthus13: I'll happily blame both of them :)06:25
canthus13although, comcast has become one of the big evil companies in this now that they own NBC...06:25
jgouldI don't think that buyouts are good for the end consumer06:26
BiosElementThey're generally not06:28
jgouldHmm... not being able to stream netflix may be a deal breaker06:31
BiosElementOk this was funny...06:48
BiosElementWas just talking to an apple fanboy about the supposed spyware and such reported to be running around that attacks apples.06:48
BiosElementTo quote "One day, you won't need antivirus software for macs."06:48
BiosElement^Wasn't that like, half the point of buying macs to begin with?06:48
jgouldI've never ran AV software on my Macs06:48
BiosElementI doubted it, bu8t I found that statement highly ironic06:49
Unit193Does anyone hate Adobe?06:54
BiosElementI don't, but I don't like them either.06:55
jgouldAdobe is a bunch of greedy bastards06:56
Unit193jgould: Abobe vs Microsoft06:56
jgouldAdobe is worse.  At least micro$haft's prices are semi affordable, without taking out a second mortage06:57
Unit193I just wanted to get a viewpoint (I wouldn't buy their stuff, but I do use flash and such) http://forums.silverlight.net/forums/t/94992.aspx07:00
jgoulddamn samba07:11
BiosElement+1007:11
BiosElementSamba hates me today07:11
jgouldI have a folder premissioned and owned correctly and my wife can't write to it...07:11
paultagjgould: are you sure?07:14
paultagjgould: do you have sticky set?07:14
* jgould blinks07:14
jgoulda sticky07:14
jgould?07:14
paultagjgould: set the dir to drwxrwsr-x07:14
paultagjgould: what's the dir now?07:15
jgouldit's 755 now and07:15
jgoulddrwxrwxr-x07:15
paultagjgould: yeah that won't work07:15
paultagjgould: set sticky07:15
paultagjgould: chmod +s ./folder07:16
jgouldshe is in the group that owns the folder07:16
paultagjgould: yeah I know07:16
jgouldwhat does the sticky bit do?07:16
paultagjgould: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sticky_bit07:17
paultagThe most common use of the sticky bit today is on directories. When the sticky bit is set, only the item's owner, the directory's owner, or the superuser can rename or delete files. Without the sticky bit set, any user with write and execute permissions for the directory can rename or delete contained files, regardless of owner. Typically this is set on the /tmp directory to prevent ordinary users from deleting or moving other users' files. Th07:17
paultagoh crap07:19
paultagthat's not the sticky bit07:19
paultagjgould: sorry, setuid/gid is +s, not sticky07:19
paultagI'm a moron and it's 2 AM07:19
paultagmy bad dawg, still +s, just had a brain fart07:19
paultagjgould: did it work?07:20
jgouldI did ti as lower case07:20
paultagjgould: did it work?07:20
jgouldgive me one sec to reload the samba config and find out07:20
paultagk07:20
jgouldNope.  she has write access to claire/books  but not claire/books/webbraile07:23
paultagjgould: look to make sure +s is set on every directory07:23
paultagjgould: OK, I'm off. At least it works :)07:23
paultagnight07:23
jgouldwebbraile is drwxrwsr-x07:23
jgouldhmm...07:24
jgouldNight07:24
jgouldI should not be awake09:32
Unit193I was going to get off before 4...09:38
jgouldYeah, that worked09:44
BiosElementHah, wow.09:45
BiosElementIt seems every few days we add an hour how late people are up >.>09:46
jgouldHEh09:46
jgouldI'm up later than I should be, I know that.  My head hurts because of it09:47
BiosElementGet coffee then :P09:47
jgouldI don't need any right now09:48
Unit193I have a meetup tomorrow at 10:3009:49
BiosElementGood luck with that Unit193 >.>09:50
jgouldOnly thing i have on my schedule is to go to the AT&T store and look at phones and then if I'm able, make the UH at 180009:52
BiosElementAhh, sweet. I probably won't be going tomorrow though, got a bit of a nasty cough going on at the moment >.>09:53
jgouldThe sad thign is that I'm back to the MacOS for right now...09:54
jgouldNight gang10:01
Unit193Adios...10:01
Unit193I need to bugger out too...10:02
Derath-Srvrhi all14:12
Cheri703hi14:17
* Cheri703 needs to find productive things to do today...and needs to make sure that includes laundry getting done!15:12
Derath-Srvrlol15:13
Derath-SrvrDefine productive? Physically productive? digitally productive?15:14
Cheri703any combination thereof15:17
Cheri703I have a big to-do list15:17
Cheri703so I'm getting through it, also some things that aren't on it15:17
Derath-Srvrlol Could start playing an RPG and gain some levels lol15:17
Derath-Srvrthat'd be productive (at least digitally) lol15:18
Cheri703heh15:18
Cheri703not *quite* what I meant15:18
Derath-Srvrit's not? lol15:19
Cheri703\o/ one item off the list! email sent15:27
Derath-Srvrlol15:27
Cheri703numbah two is done!15:30
* Cheri703 is on a roll15:30
* Derath-Srvr rolls a d20, and got a 3...15:31
canthus13Derath-Srvr: Could be worse... could be a 1.  (In which case, if I'm DM, I'd have you check to see if you hurt yourself or damaged your equipment...)15:33
Derath-Srvrlol15:33
Cheri703o.O sometimes it hits me just how nerdy some of you boys are15:35
Cheri703;)15:35
Derath-SrvrLMAO!15:36
canthus13:D15:36
Derath-SrvrWell, what did you expect?15:36
* canthus13 hasn't played any RPGs in years...15:36
canthus13Kinda miss it.15:36
Derath-SrvrSame...15:36
* canthus13 would love to play Shadowrun again.15:36
Derath-SrvrI'd like to get to play DDO more often than what I am now...15:37
canthus13I quite DDO after they changed to the multi-tiered crap. (Mod 9, I think...)15:37
* canthus13 had it running quite nicely in wine. :)15:37
Cheri703-_-15:38
Derath-SrvrIt's running nicely in mine... even paid for a 1 year subscript...15:39
Derath-Srvrbut work and family has my time strapped...15:39
Cheri703-------____________--------15:40
* Cheri703 has always had a soft spot for nerdy boys though15:41
Cheri703ooo, I finally thought of the PERFECT description of how I feel when watching a nerdy guy clumsily hit on a woman...(had this happen at UDS)15:41
Cheri703http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxdPYCc_1mU15:43
Cheri703I'm all "awwww, good effort! I know you can do it! I want to help you, but you have to learn to do it on your own!"15:43
Derath-Srvrlol15:45
Derath-SrvrWill have to watch that when I get home...15:45
Cheri703it's a french bulldog who can't roll himself over15:46
Derath-Srvrlol15:46
canthus13Heh.15:53
Cheri703jgould: around?15:56
canthus13haha... neat:  http://bellard.org/jslinux/16:21
canthus13linux machine in javascript.16:21
Cheri703for paultag, canthus13 and anyone else who was discussing the coffeemaker project: http://sudomakecoffee.com/16:41
paultagCheri703: hahaha that's brillaint18:15
paultagcanthus13: I tried that, and I started writing some code in C. I tried to force a segfault to see if he has any sort of memory checking. He has no checking :(18:15
paultagcanthus13: that means that I could do some nasty stuff. The good news is that it's all local to the JS engine on my web-browser so I'd only futz with that18:15
paultagI wonder if I could write to vRAM18:16
Derath-SrvrSince it is all inside of the jvm, wouldn't it just hit the mem of your system?18:17
paultagDerath-Srvr: well, no JVM, that's for Java. It'd be in the local slab of the javascript runtime on the browser, but since it's running a linux kernel in there, I could comprimise the virtual machine18:18
paultagnothing critical or unsafe, just interesting18:18
paultagas soon as I got outside the Javascript runtime, my host OS would segfault my browser18:18
paultag(but that'd be hard to do)18:18
paultagCheri703: the Germans have a word for that -- fremdscham (RE: nerd hitting on girl)18:20
paultagfremd = stranger, scham ~= shame18:20
Cheri703heh18:20
paultagyou're ashamed for them18:20
paultagCheri703: so I got yelled at in the UBT room for my swearing(?!), so I'm not in those rooms anymore18:21
paultagas far as that was concerned, I'd done far worse18:21
Cheri703:/ I have pulled away from there18:21
paultagit's the longest streach I've been away from that room18:21
Cheri703I didn't like some of the attitudes, and they're pretty vague about some stuff, and I got tired of offering help to people (perfectly valid, accurate help) and having people go "NO DON'T DO THAT, DO IT THIS WAY!"18:24
Cheri703so I've decided to focus elsewhere18:24
Cheri703(side note, did you listen to my interview?)18:24
paultagCheri703: I missed it! Send it! :)18:26
paultagCheri703: yeah, it's a bummer, I'm out.18:26
Cheri703http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/node/4318:27
Cheri703I'm looking at our Loco, u-w, ngo team, and accessibility18:28
paultagCheri703: running now :)18:28
paultagOh SMK :)18:28
Derath-SrvrUBT?18:42
Cheri703ubuntu beginners team18:43
Derath-Srvrah18:44
Unit193Cheri703: Still all good? (I downloaded the interview last night)19:01
Cheri703all good with?19:03
Cheri703and awesome :)19:04
Cheri703for tonight?19:04
Unit193Yeah19:11
Cheri703cool :)19:20
Cheri703I'm good19:20
Cheri703I'm hoping we'll have a good turnout19:20
Cheri703I actually have to leave in like 40 minutes to get on the bus -_- leaving at 3 for a 5pm thing, and not sure when I'll get back home tonight :/19:20
Unit193Is this the best for you?19:22
Cheri703eh, same thing happens on other days, just an hour later :)19:25
Cheri703no worries19:25
Cheri703it's just the whole car free thing and how the bus schedule works19:26
Cheri703well, I'm off to get ready. I'll see you there :)19:32
Unit193Welcome back canthus1319:58
skrappjaw?me is lurking19:59
skrappjawlol19:59
canthus13Eh?19:59
canthus13Oh.19:59
* skrappjaw fails20:00
canthus13netsplit.20:00
* canthus13 wasn't around when it happened, just reident'd.20:00
jgouldthere was a netsplit?20:00
canthus13Apparently so.20:00
canthus13some channels dumped dozens of people.20:01
Unit193canthus13: You had a ping timeout20:01
* jgould slept through it20:01
Unit193skrappjaw: Going tonight?20:01
skrappjawMansfield Ubuntu-hour https://www.facebook.com/pages/Mansfield-Ohio-Ubuntu-Hour/21628098838293020:01
canthus13Unit193: Meh. not a netsplit exactly, but it was network-wide.20:01
skrappjawUnit193: Yesser20:01
jgouldI think I wasn't around for it, my router had been taken out20:01
* skrappjaw wants ubu stickers. :)20:02
skrappjawI used a paint marker to white out the win flag logos from my super keys. Thinking about repainting the whole keyboard by hand and putting linux/ubuntu logos on it.20:03
skrappjawI sprayed my old clunker keyboard frame with orange fluorescent paint and splattered black over it. my new one is to boring.20:05
canthus13skrappjaw: send an SASE to system76. they'll send you ones for your keyboard and your case.20:06
canthus13http://www.system76.com/article_info.php?articles_id=920:06
skrappjawNice.20:06
* skrappjaw is excited.20:07
skrappjawI'm crafty too though. So I'm still gonna do something cool to my keyboard and case. I have an IBM thinkcenre 8183. It is solid and small. Gonna use it as a server when I get a laptop.20:09
skrappjawAnyone on Natty?20:10
Derath-Srvr#gm not yet... maybe after the college quarter is over...20:10
Derath-Srvrerr.. .disregard the #gm part lol20:11
jgouldthe bots have gone nuts in #ubuntu20:11
Derath-SrvrHow so?20:12
Unit193Derath-Srvr: You have done that more then once...20:12
* Derath-Srvr usually doesn't sit in that channel20:12
Unit193jgould: You're in #ubuntu?? Nice traffic...20:12
dniMretsaMit's really nasty at my house today. all rainy and windy and cloudy20:12
Derath-SrvrI know, I'm sitting in another channel that has an irc-bridge to a game, and you have to use #gm in order to send chats into game...20:13
Unit193skrappjaw: I'm on Natty and I have another one in VM20:13
dniMretsaMyuck. I want it to clear up so I can mow grass and make $2520:13
Derath-SrvrI did get Natty w/ Unity working in a VM though... I still need to show it to wife, keep forgetting20:14
jgouldI have 11.04 running on another machine.  Cheri703 has some thing from someone she met at UDS for me to try20:14
skrappjawUnit193:I tried on this pc but it choked on unity. I have Xubuntu 11.04 in a vm. Thinking about putting it on a separate partition. My windows part is quite larger than I need it to be.20:14
Derath-SrvrMan, it is taking forever to transfer 2.2G across an ftp...20:15
Unit193skrappjaw: Sorry... I have Xubuntu 11.04 on this one and Lubuntu 11.04 in VM20:15
jgouldI can't make up my mind what flavor of *Ububtu I want to run...  Ask these guys20:16
Derath-Srvrlol20:16
Derath-Srvrjgould: ALL OF THEM! lol20:16
canthus13Pineapple.20:16
skrappjawlol20:16
Unit193jgould: I would go with Lubuntu, Xubuntu or Kubuntu ;)20:16
skrappjawwith dm does Lubunto run?20:17
Derath-SrvrLXDE?20:17
canthus13yup20:17
Derath-Srvrthought so20:17
skrappjawDoesnt Xubuntu use lxde also?20:17
jgouldIn order to get Lubuntu to work in 64bit, I have to start somewhere else....20:17
Derath-Srvrxfce20:17
jgouldXFCE20:17
Unit193Xubuntu = XFCE20:17
skrappjawohh.20:17
skrappjawX. >.<20:17
Derath-SrvrLXDE == Light XFCE lol20:18
Unit193jgould: They have a community edition of 64bit20:18
* skrappjaw has been enlightened20:18
dniMretsaMgo with Kubuntu20:18
canthus13Enlightenment is fun. :)20:18
dniMretsaMKDE > all20:18
jgouldI've never liked KDE20:18
Derath-SrvrInstall all of them, then you don't have to choose :)20:18
canthus13kde is meh.20:18
skrappjawcanthus13 tis true.20:18
Unit193You get E if you try Bodhi20:18
canthus13Derath-Srvr: That makes for crowded menus.20:18
Derath-SrvrNever said it wsa good for functionality... lol20:19
skrappjawi like Knoppix kde setup.20:19
dniMretsaMI heard that Xubuntu uses the same amount of RAM as Ubuntu out of the box (back on 10.10 anyway). Is that true?20:19
jgouldand you get duplicates20:19
skrappjawThat was my linux cherry popper20:19
* canthus13 last ran E as his main DE back when it was considered a massive resource hog.20:19
skrappjawknoppix saved me big time when this pc went down. Its always close by on a live disc20:20
canthus13Xubuntu isn't very lightweight.20:20
canthus13skrappjaw: I keep a persistent copy on my mp3 player for emergencies.20:20
skrappjawNice.20:20
Unit193Xubuntu is more so than Ubuntu...20:20
jgouldLXDE is very light weight.  I dont' even hit a GB of ram used with LXDE20:20
canthus13jgould: I had it running quite nicely in a VM with 256MB.20:21
skrappjawcanthus13: I tried doing that with my blackberry but it doesnt allow root access to the SD card from the pc. :\20:21
Unit193AntiX is nice for lightweight...20:21
jgouldMy blackberry has come close to hitting the wall20:21
dniMretsaMXubuntu isn't a light distro anymore. Lubuntu took it's place20:21
canthus13that sucks. I've got it on my Zen Vision:M20:21
Unit193dniMretsaM: I agree with that. I still like Xubuntu better than Ubuntu20:22
skrappjawjgould: mine has... this 8330 wont feckin die.20:22
jgouldXubuntu holds a place in my heart.  It was the first WM I ever used under Linux20:22
jgouldI'm on my 3rd 9700.  This is my last 970020:23
canthus13Meh. My first was KDE 1.x... I still hate KDE. :/20:23
canthus13before that I was CLI alla way. :)20:24
skrappjawmy girl and I are goin in on some droids. Probably the Droid Global. gotta have a qwerty20:24
jgouldHow well does Banshee handle syncing music to a Drioid (or a BlackBerry for that matter)20:24
Unit193I would like an andriod...20:24
skrappjawI just copy paste the files with my bb. It doesnt sync for me.20:25
skrappjawbut im using rythmbox.20:25
* canthus13 never tried.20:25
jgouldI'm looking at the HTC Inspire...20:25
* Derath-Srvr loves his Evo20:25
canthus13Banshee does decent syncing to my Zen, though. Or did last time I tried it.20:25
dniMretsaMskrappjaw: Rhythmbox and Banshee are almost identical20:26
Derath-SrvrYa know, ever tried syncing with those... I've just dragged and dropped files across20:26
jgouldRight up our alley: http://tinyurl.com/69s5u6z20:26
skrappjawOk. I've never looked into other media players than the boxed default.20:27
skrappjawI just wish Songbird was available for linux20:27
Derath-Srvr#gm LOL!20:27
deejoe"when I said it was a pizza box, what I meant was . . ."20:28
jgouldHeh20:29
skrappjawhahaha20:29
skrappjawwoot20:29
jgouldYou see what OS he's booting, right?20:30
skrappjawCHEEZburger 1z 73h w1n.20:30
skrappjawI see a grub loader.20:30
Derath-SrvrYep, noticed that too... how else do you think it booted in 30 sec ;)20:31
Derath-SrvrCouldn't have been a ms machone20:31
skrappjawDerath-Srvr: well played.20:31
jgouldIt's booting Ubuntu.  Heh20:32
Derath-Srvr"It's a great system; just one problem, I'm overweight, and my fingers are always greasy"20:32
Derath-SrvrOkay, type... two problems... *shrugs*20:33
Derath-Srvrerr typo... geez... just having one of those days20:33
skrappjawgotta call the orkin man to debug that one. XP20:34
canthus13hmm.20:36
jgouldI'm heading out to do some stuff,  if Anyone sees Cheri, I left her my email in PM20:44
jgouldif I detach from my session, will it mark me as away?20:46
Derath-SrvrNope20:46
Derath-SrvrUnless you have an away-timer set for idle...20:46
jgouldin that case I'll stay attached...  Nope... Haven't gotten that far20:46
jgouldI'll be back20:46
dniMretsaMI can't wait for GIMP 2.820:47
dniMretsaMSingle Window mode is glitchy in 2.720:47
canthus13there's a single window mode?21:00
dniMretsaMin 2.721:01
canthus13huh.  I might hate it less now...21:01
dniMretsaM2.6 doesn't have it21:02
dniMretsaMbut 2.7 isn't a stable release, so it's not entirely working21:02
* skrappjaw uses photoshop cs2 in wine21:12
skrappjawgimp is awkward for me.21:12
dniMretsaMI use GIMP cause I'm cheap21:15
dniMretsaMbut I do like it though, especially with single window mode21:15
dniMretsaMa lot better than the tri-window setup IMO21:16
skrappjawi have a fondness for adobe. I'm just disappointed that they don't support Linux. :\21:16
dniMretsaMmaybe they will eventually21:17
skrappjawi hope21:17
dniMretsaMI think more companies r starting too21:17
dniMretsaMlike Netflix (probably)21:17
skrappjawsince google is pushing android an the chrome os... its only logical21:18
dniMretsaMGoogle supports Linux a lot21:18
skrappjawlubuntu iso finished. time for a vbox test run...21:19
dniMretsaMenjoy21:20
skrappjawI really hope it runs as well as Knoppix.21:21
dniMretsaMin case anyone cares, I finished school today!21:28
dniMretsaM8-)21:28
Derath-SrvrCongrats21:31
skrappjawprops21:31
skrappjawI just started college in the last few months21:31
canthus13Heh. my wife just took some placement tests to start school. :P21:33
Lubu_Jawhar. live from lubuntu Vbox session.21:33
dniMretsaMbeing homeschooled is awesome21:34
dniMretsaMnow we leave for my sis's grad trip (Alaskan cruis) on Saturday21:34
dniMretsaMpumped for that21:34
skrappjawO.o woot21:34
dniMretsaMhow's Lubuntu21:35
skrappjawdigging the layout.21:35
dniMretsaMawesome21:35
dniMretsaMhow's it run? pretty fast?21:35
dniMretsaMik it's hard to judge in a VM21:36
* jgould installs rEFIt21:36
skrappjawI will be putting it on a separate partition.21:37
Cheri703jgould: I'm available now21:37
Cheri703am at panera :)21:37
Cheri703REALLY EARLY...WOO BUS!21:37
skrappjawOn my way Cheri. :)21:37
skrappjawsee you soon.21:37
Cheri703:)21:37
skrappjawKatie just got here.21:37
Cheri703\o/21:38
skrappjawPeace yall. :P21:38
dniMretsaMu people live near eachother?21:38
Cheri703Unit193, skrappjaw, and myself are all in mansfield21:39
Cheri703we have an ubuntu hour tonight21:39
Cheri703hopefully more people than we've had yet21:39
dniMretsaMlucky21:39
dniMretsaMI've yet to meet a Linux user in real life21:39
dniMretsaM:(21:40
Unit193So I need to get ready....21:40
Cheri703I may move over to the big table in the middle...we'll see. I felt weird sitting there by myself :)21:40
Unit193;)21:40
dniMretsaMmy computer amazes me lol21:41
Cheri703dniMretsaM: where in ohio are you?21:42
* jgould is planning on making it to the Columbus UH21:42
dniMretsaMrunning pidgin, eclipse, and firefox on a Dell Dimension 2400 with an Intel Celeron 2.4Ghz with 512MB of RAM with barely any speed reduction21:42
dniMretsaMStow21:43
dniMretsaMNE21:43
Cheri703kk, smk is in ashtabula I think21:43
dniMretsaManybody know a good CSS editor for Eclipse?21:44
dniMretsaMEclipse Helios21:45
dniMretsaMwell, enjoy your Ubuntu Hour. I'm out21:52
* Cheri703 is at the big table in the middle :)21:54
Cheri703we've never had enough people to need it, but I'm being optimistic21:54
Cheri703and I'm wearing my UDS shirt :)21:54
Cheri703aaand I'm wishing I'd brought my hoodie...I'm chilly21:54
jgouldI'm always cold21:57
* jgould loans Cheri703 a blankie21:58
Cheri703thanks21:58
canthus13paultag: http://bellard.org/jslinux/tech.html21:58
paultagNo segment limit and right checks when accessing memory (Linux does not rely on them for memory protection, so it is not an issue. The x86 emulator of QEMU has the same restriction).22:01
paultagcanthus13: awww, he knew :(22:02
* Cheri703 feels awkward sitting here at the big table alone :/22:05
Cheri703folks need to get here!22:05
paultagCheri703: people'll come! :)22:07
paultagyou said you had a bunch potentally coming :)22:07
Cheri703yeah...we'll see22:07
Cheri703so far no sign22:07
paultagmm22:07
Cheri703though Unit193 and skrappjaw said they're definitely coming22:07
SkrappJaw_bbIRC blackberry. Waiting for Andy @ the mall. :P22:08
Cheri703Unit193:  is here22:10
Cheri703:)22:10
Cheri703that's cool22:10
Skrapp_JawA really tall guy named James. Moustach an glasses is there for the meeting. He doesn't know who to look for.22:11
Cheri703I'm at the middle table22:12
Skrapp_JawOk22:12
Cheri703I have my ubuntu sign on it, and have the stickers out too :) in the middle section22:12
Cheri703dark hair and glasses. is he here already?22:12
Cheri703I'm looking around22:12
Cheri703panera is breezy22:14
Cheri703the hanging lamps are swaying...22:14
SkrappJaw_againLol. My bb app sucks. Not very stable.22:16
Unit193More people than normal!23:55

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