[05:13]  * nlsthzn-work waves
[09:07] <inetpro> good morning
[09:11]  * nlsthzn-work waves
[09:12] <inetpro> nlsthzn-work: you don't perhaps know where I can find the afrikaans dictionary for LibreOffice?
[09:14]  * inetpro tried installing via Tools | Language | More Dictionaries Online... in LibreOffice but am failing to find the dictionary
[09:22] <nlsthzn-work> inetpro: no idea sorry...
[09:22] <inetpro> nlsthzn-work: np, I'll find out eventually
[10:00] <nuvolari> meh. Oracle is good at breaking website links
[10:00] <nuvolari> even for OpenOffice
[10:00] <fredre> halo
[10:01] <nuvolari> hallo fredre, gaan dit goed?
[10:04] <fredre> hi nuvolari ja dankie en met jou
[10:12] <nuvolari> kan nie kla nie dankie fredre 
[10:28] <wolfeyes> morning superfly and all you other guys
[10:29] <wolfeyes> Maaz, coffee on
[10:29]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[10:30] <wolfeyes> its actually kilos here after a long long all nighter fighting the big fight
[10:30]  * inetpro got Afrikaans spellchecker working by installing the package myspell-dictionary-af or rather myspell-af
[10:30] <wolfeyes> actually got maverick working on ians pc at 6am this morning
[10:31] <wolfeyes> hiya inetpro 
[10:31] <inetpro> heh wolfeyes/kilos
[10:31] <wolfeyes> lol
[10:33] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for wolfeyes!
[10:33] <wolfeyes> Maaz, ty
[10:33] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[10:34] <superfly> hi wolfeyes, how's the upgrade?
[10:35] <wolfeyes> have only managed to install maverick superfly 
[10:35] <superfly> wolfeyes: do an upgrade to natty using the alternate CD then
[10:35] <wolfeyes> stupid pc refused to even run all ubuntu s from cd
[10:35] <wolfeyes> yip will do it that way i think
[10:36] <wolfeyes> kept saying things like no live file system found and a few hundred other errors
[10:38] <wolfeyes> eventually got one 9.10 to run live and installed grub from there but only after installing in windows
[10:38] <wolfeyes> what a job
[10:38] <superfly> eish
[10:38] <wolfeyes> and his sound works
[10:38] <wolfeyes> w00t
[10:40] <wolfeyes> now still fighting his stupid modem. works fine in xp but after much struggling onmaverick it works till next boot then gone again
[10:40] <wolfeyes> looking at trying betavine to make it work
[10:42] <wolfeyes> my modem works fine here so its his vodafone modem thats fulla
[10:44] <wolfeyes> the old saying is so true
[10:45] <wolfeyes> as jy kan sukkel, sal jy
[10:46] <superfly> wolfeyes: what modem is that?
[10:52] <wolfeyes> sec i need mag glass to read the info
[10:54] <wolfeyes> vodafone mobile broadband k3570-z
[10:56] <superfly> Maaz: google k3570-z
[10:56] <Maaz> superfly: "Support Guides for the Vodafone Mobile Broadband K3570-Z USB Stick" http://www.business.vodafone.com/site/bus/public/enuk/support/10_productsupport/usb_stick/01_vodafone/vodafone_k3570z/05_summary/p_summary.jsp :: "Latest Software for the Vodafone Mobile Broadband K3570-Z USB Stick" http://www.business.vodafone.com/site/bus/public/enuk/support/10_productsupport/usb_stick/01_vodafone/vodafone_k3570z/20_software/p_software.jsp :: "
[10:56] <superfly> Maaz: google linux k3570-z
[10:56] <Maaz> superfly: "Using Vodafone's Top Up and Go on Linux" http://offog.org/articles/linux-3g/ :: "Betavine - Forums - Linux - K3570-Z on Ubuntu" http://betavine.mobi/bvportal/forums/index.html?threadId=ff8080812988fa9c012a3ca78fc002ac :: "[SOLVED] K3570-z not recognized correctly??!! - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1600325 :: "Vodaphone k3570Z data-card Problem in Ubuntu Resolved :) | my ..." http://thasulinux.wordpress.
[10:56] <magellanic> hoi hoi
[10:56] <superfly> there's some info about it
[10:56] <superfly> hi magellanic
[10:56] <superfly> Maaz: google linux k3570-z device id
[10:56] <Maaz> superfly: "[SOLVED] K3570-z not recognized correctly??!! - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1600325 :: "OpenWrt / TL-WR1043ND and K3570-Z 3G modem problem" https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=126788 :: "Ubuntu 10.10 - Vodafone dongle K3570-Z not recognised | Mobile ..." http://developer.vodafone.com/discuss/question/728/ubuntu-1010-vodafone-dongle-k3570-z-not-recognised/ :: "Access to Vodafone Support for USB 
[10:56] <wolfeyes> ty superfly i will look into that
[10:57] <magellanic> heya superfly 
[10:57] <wolfeyes> lo magellanic 
[10:57] <magellanic> hey wolfeyes 
[11:00] <wolfeyes> rsyncing archives is a boon. only needed 20m data to get him updated after sudo apt-get update
[11:00] <wolfeyes> saved like 280m
[11:24] <Squirm> anyone here happen to know how to make a python script modular?
[11:24] <Squirm> superfly: iirc, you do python?
[11:24] <superfly> indeed
[11:25] <superfly> Squirm: what do you mean by, "modular"?
[11:25] <Squirm> umm
[11:25] <Squirm> modular, I mean like... being able to dynamically load and unload modules so you wont have to keep on restarting it's  core
[11:26] <superfly> you're more talking plugins than "modular" (as modular has many meanings)
[11:26] <superfly> Squirm: go look how they do it in the Ibid source code
[11:26] <Squirm> plugins is probably the right word
[11:28] <wolfeyes> sorry superfly  i stuck here
[11:28] <wolfeyes> root@P4:/usr/bin# echo "dda70fd95fb952dbb979af88790d3f6e sakis3g.gz" | md5sum -cmd5sum: standard input: no properly formatted MD5 checksum lines found
[11:29] <wolfeyes> am looking here http://wiki.sakis3g.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sakis3G_installation
[11:30] <wolfeyes> and for some reason i cannot copy paste those commands to cli
[11:30] <wolfeyes> need to type each one
[11:32] <magellanic> out a double space between "dda70fd95fb952dbb979af88790d3f6e sakis3g.gz"
[11:33] <magellanic> put*
[11:34] <magellanic> well try that out at least. not sure
[11:36] <wolfeyes> magellanic,  double space exactly tween where and where . i dont see too good
[11:36] <magellanic> between the md5 and file name
[11:38] <wolfeyes> before sakis magellanic ?
[11:39] <magellanic> yep
[11:39] <wolfeyes> ok ty i try that
[11:40] <wolfeyes> yay ty magellanic 
[11:45] <wolfeyes> ok i remove my modem now and try his again. bbl
[11:55] <superfly> Kilos: you're running after the wrong solution
[11:55] <superfly> (that's why I hate forums)
[11:56] <Kilos> aw
[11:56] <superfly> http://developer.vodafone.com/discuss/question/811/huawei-e1690-and-a-vodaphone-zte-k3570-z-on-ubuntu-11/
[11:56] <superfly> that looks better
[11:56] <Kilos> and i so stupid i was doing it all from his machine and swopping modems when i coulda just been here on mine
[11:57] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[11:57] <Kilos> will try that now
[11:57] <superfly> Kilos: the best thing to do, however, is to open a terminal, type in "tail -f /var/log/syslog" and THEN plug the modem in
[11:58] <superfly> then you can look for lines showing the modem being plugged in
[11:58] <Kilos> ok will do that now superfly 
[12:00] <superfly> Kilos: also, lsusb gives vital information
[12:01] <Kilos> it has connected  superfly . it was seen in lsusb
[12:02] <Kilos> does that mean it will keep connecting now when booting again
[12:02] <superfly> Kilos: yes, the important thing is not if it's there, but what the device id is
[12:03] <Kilos> did "tail -f /var/log/syslog" make it connect now?
[12:05] <nuvolari> Kilos: it's only showing the latest entries to the system log
[12:05] <nuvolari> like kernel activity when you plug in a device
[12:05] <Kilos> yes but i mean what made the modem actually connect now?
[12:06] <Kilos> and i dont see it in lsusb anymore
[12:06] <nuvolari> Kilos: what did you do differently?
[12:06] <Kilos> even though it is online
[12:07] <nuvolari> strange
[12:07] <Kilos> there is still the saki script open in cli
[12:08] <wolfeyes> is this it?
[12:08] <wolfeyes> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 19d2:1008 ONDA Communication S.p.A. 
[12:09] <wolfeyes> na
[12:10] <Kilos> on mine i see my modem here
[12:10] <Kilos> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1bbb:0000 T & A Mobile Phones 
[12:11] <Kilos> nothing like that on his lsusb
[12:12] <Kilos> can i spam ubuntu-afr with the output of his lsusb?
[12:12] <Kilos> 6 lines
[12:14] <Kilos> ians been asleep since 5am. youngsters cant take the punch
[12:14] <Kilos> they dont make men like they used to
[12:14] <Kilos> hehe
[12:14] <magellanic> lol
[12:17] <Kilos> i dont understand how it can be online but not show in lsusb
[12:18] <magellanic> paste the output to pastebin or something?
[12:19] <Kilos> i have pasted to ubuntu-afr are you not there magellanic 
[12:20] <magellanic> nopes :p
[12:20] <Kilos> aw you boycot us
[12:20] <Kilos> apartheid is dead
[12:21] <magellanic> that's a myth :p
[12:21] <Kilos> lol
[12:33] <superfly> Kilos: all the stuff I am reading online says that you just need to install USB modeswitch, and then it should work
[12:33] <superfly> Kilos: also, that "ONDA Communication S.p.A." *is* the modem
[12:35] <magellanic> you're trying to get a 3g modem working? sorry wasn't following close
[12:36] <Morganvd> hey Kilos 
[12:37] <Morganvd> Kilos: what 3g moden is it
[12:37] <Morganvd> Cell C there is a trick to i
[12:37] <Morganvd> it
[12:38] <Morganvd> what distro you running?
[12:41] <Kilos> vodacom magellanic
[12:41] <Morganvd> what distro
[12:42] <Kilos> maverick
[12:42] <Morganvd> aha
[12:42] <magellanic> when you plug it i, does nm react?
[12:42] <magellanic> in*
[12:42] <Morganvd> k you have the sakis 3g right
[12:42] <Morganvd> script
[12:43] <Kilos> it has on and off but disappears if rebooted or online for 30 mins or more
[12:43] <Morganvd> kk kilos 
[12:43] <Kilos> just disconnects and then doesn5t show on nm
[12:43] <Morganvd> you need to fix the usb modeswitch
[12:43] <Kilos> yes i have sakis script in as well now
[12:44] <Kilos> oh 
[12:44] <Kilos> fix it?
[12:44] <Morganvd> i used sakis to connect then had to download usb-dev thing
[12:44] <Kilos> what broke it
[12:44] <Morganvd> then run skakis 3g scritp it has a option to compile it into usb-modeswitch
[12:45] <Kilos> sorry Morganvd  im not reading well seems
[12:45] <Morganvd> let me download it quick and explain in a pm what tyou need to do
[12:45] <Kilos> ty Morganvd 
[14:33] <Morganvd> kbmonkey: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:35] <kbmonkey> Morganvd, !!!!!!!!
[14:35] <kbmonkey> hows it going
[15:34] <wolfeyes> heya guys
[15:35] <wolfeyes> I uninstalled modem manager and connected using Saki3g.
[15:36] <wolfeyes> There is now only no monitor to show if it is connected or not. Only by the light on the modem at the back of the tower or by physically being online. Any idea's please?
[15:46] <nuvolari> wolfeyes: it's not the best solution but I usually do a tail on /var/log/syslog which shows what it's up to. Sometimes my light is showing it's connected but thet it's still retrieving dns details or something went wrong with the network then it's redialling or doing somithing
[15:50] <wolfeyes> Ok thank you nuvolari , I got that command now, (saved it to a file) for future.
[15:52] <nuvolari> wolfeyes: but you can try "sudo ifconfig"
[15:52] <nuvolari> it should show as ppp0
[15:53] <nuvolari> wolfeyes: if it's connected you should see something like:
[15:53] <nuvolari> ppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol  
[15:53] <nuvolari>           inet addr:41.9.53.110  P-t-P:10.64.64.64  Mask:255.255.255.255
[15:54]  * wolfeyes GOES TO TRY
[15:54] <wolfeyes> oops
[15:55] <superfly> wolfeyes: I would rather not use Saki3g, if possible
[15:56] <wolfeyes> Ok
[15:56] <superfly> *if possible*
[15:56] <superfly> if it's not possible, then use it
[15:56] <wolfeyes> Nodz
[15:57] <wolfeyes> So far it is the only thing I can connect with.
[15:57] <wolfeyes> I will use until I find something better that works lol
[15:58] <wolfeyes> superfly, can you upgrade Maverick to Natty kubuntu?
[15:58] <superfly> yup
[15:59] <wolfeyes> Thank you for the cd's.
[15:59] <superfly> wolfeyes: I'm just going to quickly go and drop my ballot paper into a box, I'll hopefully be back in about half an our
[15:59] <superfly> *hour
[15:59] <superfly> then I can help you with that if you want
[15:59] <wolfeyes> No problem take your time, I will be here most of the night. :-)
[15:59] <wolfeyes> And thank you.
[16:00] <wolfeyes> Just so glad I got my computer back.
[16:05] <wolfeyes> i got that nuvolari 
[16:15] <Kilos> Maaz, coffe on
[16:15] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[16:15] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[16:15]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[16:15] <Morganvd> Maaz: coffee please
[16:15] <Maaz> Morganvd: Sure
[16:16] <Kilos> Maaz, rusks please
[16:16] <Maaz> There is a packet of Ouma's  on the top shelf
[16:17]  * superfly is back
[16:17]  * Kilos shares rusks with Morganvd  and superfly if he orders coffee quick
[16:18] <superfly> Maaz: coffee please
[16:18] <Maaz> superfly: Okay
[16:18] <Kilos> lol
[16:18] <superfly> :-D
[16:19] <Kilos> Maaz, move it
[16:19] <Maaz> Don't rush me Kilos . Making decent coffee is an art
[16:19] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos, Morganvd and superfly!
[16:19] <Kilos> Maaz, dankie man
[16:19] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[16:20] <Kilos> grr
[16:20] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[16:20] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[16:20] <wolfeyes> wb superfly 
[16:20] <wolfeyes> lol @ an art.
[16:20] <n8wulf> Hi ppl,I've registered my IRC nick before, started on a fresh ubuntu install, used '/msg nickserv identify password' which returns a msg that I'm registerd as N8Wulf,but why does my Nick show in the chatrooms as IRC?
[16:21] <superfly> your client is not set up correctly?
[16:21] <superfly> I need n8wulf
[16:21] <superfly> *see
[16:21] <wolfeyes> So do I.
[16:21] <n8wulf> pidgin
[16:21] <n8wulf> LoL, got it first, have the gmail account as well
[16:21] <superfly> n8wulf: that would be your problem, Pidgin is not an IRC client :-P
[16:22] <n8wulf> Grrr
[16:22] <n8wulf> always worked...
[16:22] <Kilos> oidgin can do irc superfly 
[16:22] <superfly> Kilos: I know, I'm teasing
[16:22] <Kilos> pidgin as well
[16:22] <Kilos> lol
[16:22] <superfly> Pidging usually is used as an IM client though
[16:23] <Kilos> yip
[16:23] <superfly> and, to be honest, makes a really horribly IRC client
[16:23] <n8wulf> :-[
[16:23] <superfly> meh, my typing is horrible today too
[16:23] <superfly> n8wulf: try XChat or Quassel
[16:23] <superfly> or weechat if you're a command line junkie
[16:23] <n8wulf> do they support mxit as well?
[16:23] <n8wulf> brb
[16:23] <superfly> they are IRC clients, not IM clients
[16:24] <n8wulf> back
[16:25] <n8wulf> so u r telling me I'll have to run 2 apps in the background just because I can't change my Nick here /
[16:25] <n8wulf> ?
[16:26] <n8wulf> if I run /NICK N8Wulf I get 'Unknown command'
[16:26] <n8wulf> is that the right format though?
[16:27] <superfly> most commands are usually lowercase
[16:28] <N8Wulf> YEAH BABY
[16:28] <N8Wulf> pidgin doesn't update, although I received msg that I'm now known as N8wulf
[16:28] <superfly> as did the rest of the channel
[16:29] <Kilos> lol
[16:29] <N8Wulf> mothertrucking-son-of-a-barbie
[16:29] <Kilos> eish
[16:29] <superfly> N8Wulf: funnily enough, computers are pretty powerful these days, and pretty good at running multiple apps at the same time
[16:29] <Kilos> there are ladies here N8Wulf 
[16:30] <N8Wulf> ok, 'daughter of a Ken then
[16:30] <superfly> N8Wulf: just be aware that this channel is ruled by the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
[16:30] <Kilos> lol thats better
[16:30] <N8Wulf> I didn't swear... i made a joke
[16:31] <superfly> N8Wulf: just letting you know
[16:31] <N8Wulf> k
[16:33] <Kilos> superfly, afrodeity will fight with him soon
[16:33] <Kilos> hehe
[16:34] <N8Wulf> I'm gonna try xchat quick
[16:44] <N8Wulf> I found it... in Pidgin>Accounts I set the local alias as IRC instead of my nick, so to me my nick showed in chats as IRC instead of N8Wulf
[16:44] <N8Wulf> :-!
[16:45] <Kilos> lol
[16:47] <N8Wulf> I see on the .org page that the Stellenbosch crowd has an Ubuntu Hour often... be it the Wine in the area that makes them more social?
[16:52] <Tonberry> i think the high concentration of ubuntu users is the more likely reason
[16:53] <N8Wulf> o... would be interesting to go to a Meet in Jhb or Pta... 
[16:56] <nuvolari> wolfeyes: eh? you got what? :P
[16:57] <wolfeyes> nuvolari, I got what you said and did it and see what you said.
[16:58] <wolfeyes> If that ^ made sense lol
[17:01] <wolfeyes> Just looking at skype installation.
[17:05] <nuvolari> wolfeyes: lol ok, kinda made sense. As long as you see that you should be connected. If you are not connected, you will not se an IP address for ppp0
[17:05] <wolfeyes> Nodz correct.
[17:35] <wolfeyes> Catch you guys soon, rebooting and sorting mic out.
[17:46] <afrodeity1> lol
[17:47] <nuvolari> ok, what did we do wrong? :P
[17:47] <Kilos> ?
[17:47] <afrodeity1> --------------
[17:47] <Kilos> hehe
[17:50] <afrodeity1> oops, there are two of me
[17:50] <Kilos> yip
[17:50] <Kilos> onwe with a tail
[17:50] <Kilos> and ladies dont have tails
[17:52] <afrodeity> now there is only one
[17:53] <Kilos> yeah and the right one
[17:53] <afrodeity> I think I voted for a tannie by accident today
[17:53] <Kilos> hehe
[17:54] <afrodeity> it got all a bit confusing
[17:54] <nuvolari> lol
[17:54] <afrodeity> pity there was no ubuntu party
[17:55] <nuvolari> hup! Mark for president!
[17:55] <afrodeity> pirate party would also do it for me
[17:56] <nuvolari> I think the pirate party would be LAN RAGe
[17:56] <afrodeity> any party which will up bandwidth would get my vote
[17:57] <afrodeity> free last mile access to fibre network
[17:58] <afrodeity> break telkom up into 50 small service providers
[17:59] <Kilos> lo nlsthzn 
[17:59] <nlsthzn> Kilos: Hey uncle :) have you played with the new distro's yet?
[18:05] <afrodeity> Kilos: could I interest you in a new distro, its called Kilotex
[18:16] <Morganvd> i must say thanks to monkey i found my distro for my netbook
[18:17] <Kilos> not yet nlsthzn been fighting just to get ians pc to accept ubuntu
[18:17] <Kilos> but he running full steam on maverick now and everything is working so maybe tomorrow we upgrade him to kubuntu
[18:18] <nlsthzn> :/ ah crap... doesn't seem that I am getting notified when I am being pinged :(
[18:18] <Kilos> lol afrodeity 
[18:18] <Kilos> is it linux
[18:52] <nlsthzn> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon - starting in about 10 minutes if I did my maths right :p
[18:57] <afrodeity> Kilos: nah, its based on a new monolithic kernel called kilosX
[19:01] <Kilos> lol