[00:14] <lemraish> hi, everybody. how do i make horizontal scrolling work in xubuntu 11.04? (it worked in gnome 10.10)
[00:36] <bin_bash> okay charlie-tca how can I downgrade my kernel to -7
[00:36] <bin_bash> or would i be better off installing xubuntu 10.10
[00:50] <bin_bash> hey KM0201 i'm thinking that maybe i should drop down to maverick
[00:51] <KM0201> i thought maverick caused you more issues than natty
[00:51] <bin_bash> I never used maverick
[00:51] <KM0201> hmm, i thought you tried it, and there was some problem with it...
[00:51] <KM0201> so.. why are you thinkingj drop to maverick?
[00:52] <bin_bash> charlie-tca suggesting it could be the -8 kernel
[00:52] <KM0201> hmm, so he thinks going to a "lower" kernel would work?
[00:54] <bin_bash> possibly
[00:54] <bin_bash> he's been having kernel derps with -8 too he said
[00:54] <KM0201> hmm
[00:54] <KM0201> somehow i have my doubts on that, but i guess its worth a try
[00:54] <bin_bash> or i could use the -9 kernel
[00:55] <KM0201> is it in the repositories yet?
[00:55] <bin_bash> idk
[00:55] <KM0201> i'm not sure i'd go to -9, but i guess that could possibly work
[00:56] <KM0201> i don't see -9 in my repository listing
[01:00] <KM0201> can you use your 11.04 cd to boot a 10.10 usb, or do you gotta burn again, ?
[01:01] <bin_bash> i have to burn again
[01:02] <bin_bash> that's why i'm thinking i might try mint10
[01:05] <KM0201> lol
[01:07] <KM0201> mint 10, isn't it running -8?
[01:08] <bin_bash> idk
[01:09] <bin_bash> wanna google for me
[01:10] <KM0201> well, i just found a forum post that says they will "get an update to the 2.6.38 kernel a soon as this issue is fixed" ( i didn't read what the issue was)
[01:10] <KM0201> the post is from 4 days ago though.. so..
[01:10] <KM0201> power usage increase.
[01:11] <KM0201> http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=71174&p=421074
[01:17] <bin_bash> which kernel did lucid run?
[01:19] <rww> 2.6.32
[01:19] <KM0201> ic ould have swore you said there was some problem w/ maverick
[01:19] <KM0201> i just can't remember what it was
[01:20] <KM0201> maybe i was thinking 10.04
[01:22] <bin_bash> lucid was the problem
[01:22] <KM0201> oh ok
[01:32] <bin_bash> before i do this though
[01:33] <bin_bash> mayeb i should just try to downgrade the kernel
[01:33] <bin_bash> what do u think
[01:33] <KM0201> i don't think thats gonna be very successful, but you could try.
[01:33] <bin_bash> why not
[01:34] <KM0201> just a hunch.
[01:34] <KM0201> lol
[01:34] <bin_bash> lesigh
[01:35] <KM0201> opensuse is running kernel 2.6.37  is that the one you want?
[01:36] <bin_bash> idk what i want
[01:36] <bin_bash> lesigh
[01:37] <KM0201> ok...
[01:37] <KM0201> typical woman
[01:37] <KM0201> lol
[01:37] <bin_bash> i just want to go back six months to when i would have 2 weeks uptime
[01:37] <KM0201> lol
[01:37] <bin_bash> and i only restarted when i accidentally unplugged it and rhe battery died
[01:37] <KM0201> do you never turn your laptop off or something
[01:38] <bin_bash> no i hate turning it off
[01:38] <KM0201> hmm
[01:40] <bin_bash> i love uptime
[01:40] <bin_bash> ew gnome or kde
[01:40] <bin_bash> bloat or more bloat
[01:41] <KM0201> then use xfce?
[01:42] <bin_bash> i guess i'll DL the gnome version
[01:42] <KM0201> gnome of what?
[01:42] <bin_bash> opensuse
[01:42] <KM0201> oh
[01:53] <roasted> In Ubuntu 10.10 I had "startup applications". In Xubuntu 11.04, I don't. Is this hidden somewhere?
[01:55] <charlie-tca> roasted: that is a gnome application. Xubuntu uses Settings -> Settings Manager -> Sessions and Startup
[01:55] <roasted> ah
[01:55] <roasted> thank you
[02:14] <MarconM> xuxa + ubuntu = xubuntu " ilari lariêh "
[03:30] <q_a_z_steve> What's the console apt-get FE which allows you to choose how to resolve deps?
[05:01] <uofm49426> ok have question i did a reinstall of everything i made a little fat32 partioned and mounted it at /fat32/tmp used it to save stuff i wanted to keep
[05:03] <uofm49426> i remove the partion and remove the file /fat32 but when i boot i have to s or m
[05:03] <uofm49426> how can i fix this
[05:26] <Soupermanito> s or m?
[05:59] <Soupermanito> say for a moment that i unplug my sda and install win xp on my sdb1, then i replug my sda, so grub will load first, and it wont read the mbr of sdb, could i add up the winxp boot line to grub after that?
[06:02] <Unit193> I *think* os-prober might find it...
[06:03] <Soupermanito> you mean >sudo update-grub ?
[06:04] <Unit193> !info os-prober
[06:04] <Soupermanito> oh thats new
[06:04] <Unit193> And fun too ;)
[06:05] <Soupermanito> so it will be safe rigth, whit removed sda the grub mbr will remain intact?
[06:06] <Soupermanito> i know my bios looks on sda first in order to load the boot loader :P
[06:06] <Soupermanito> oh it was already installed
[06:07] <Soupermanito> it shows nothing, it shouldnt because i dont have any other OS right now rite
[06:09] <Soupermanito> well we will see about that tomorrow
[06:09] <Soupermanito> good night people
[06:21] <Rodensky> I'm using Xubuntu 10.04 and I got a system msg that asks me if I want to upgrade to 10.10. Will it will upgrade itself to Xubuntu 10.10 or it will "upgrade" itself to gnome/unity like ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 did?
[06:24] <Unit193> Rodensky: Xubuntu doesn't use Unity and you should be upgraded to 10.10 (and from there you can go to 11.04)
[06:25] <Rodensky> Unit193, I know it doesn't use unity but when I had ubuntu 10.10 I used gnome+compiz+cairo-dock, and instead of upgrading to 11.04 and updating my gui, it fell apart
[06:25] <Rodensky> that's why i moved to xubuntu
[06:26] <Rodensky> are you sure that it will be upgraded to xubuntu 10.10 with xfce and not to some mess with gnome? :]
[06:27] <Unit193> I have never done an upgrade (Had a HDD failure forceing me to reinstall) but I'm using 11.04 with no Unity crap
[06:28] <Unit193> s/forceing/forcing/
[06:28] <Rodensky> in ubuntu it forced an "upgrade" to unity.... :( (a major downgrade if you ask me...)
[06:31] <Unit193> I have had 10.10 and 11.04 of Xubuntu and never used Unity
[06:32] <Rodensky> you said you havn't upgraded from one to the other
[06:33] <Rodensky> I need someone that already upgraded and can tell me if I can upgrade safely or should I wait untill I'll have the time to freshly install 10.10
[06:33] <Unit193> But I have used both. 11.04 of Ubuntu (Not Xubuntu) comes with Unity by default
[06:34] <Rodensky> yes but is you upgrade from an earlier version and you use another gui, the system is not suppose to replace your gui
[06:34] <Rodensky> and it did
[06:34] <Rodensky> and very poorly I might add
[07:51] <xubuntu510> hallo
[07:51] <xubuntu510> ^^ ich installier grad xubuntu
[08:27] <profus2> good morning everybody
[08:27] <profus2> after installation program does not appear in the menu structure - where can i find it
[08:28] <profus2> ?
[08:28] <profus2> software is synergy and was installed via software center
[08:31] <TheSheep> profus2: what would you expect to appear? it's a daemon
[08:32] <Unit193> profus2: Only the synergy from their website has a GUI with it
[08:32] <TheSheep> Unit193: it does?
[08:33] <profus2> http://goinglinux.com/articles/UsingSynergyOnLinuxAndWindows.html
[08:33] <Unit193> TheSheep: Yep! I use it
[08:33] <Unit193> TheSheep: Side note: Same version on getdeb doesn't have the GUI
[08:33] <profus2> according to this article it should appear under "accessories"
[08:34] <Unit193> profus2: If you really want it, download the deb from http://synergy-foss.org
[08:35] <profus2> do i have to deinstall the version I have installed via software center first?
[08:36] <Unit193> profus2: You shouldn't need to
[08:36] <profus2> just klick on the *.deb file (sorry newbie)?
[08:37] <Unit193> I think so... (I use the dpkg -i method)
[08:38] <TheSheep> dpkg -i can lead to breakage when the ackage fails to install
[08:38] <profus2> done :-) thank you for your help
[08:39] <Unit193> TheSheep: What's the best way to do it via terminal/ssh?
[08:39] <TheSheep> Unit193: no idea, I guess use dpkg -i and deal with breakage
[10:43] <xharx> anyone using a touchpad?
[10:48] <TheSheep> maybe ask your real question, that will be faster
[11:04] <Josesordo> xubuntu dont have a option to disable the touchpad =( ..
[11:06] <xharx> i cant influnce the time of a click-twice-drag action of my touchpad. also i can not influence the speed of the mouse cursor. anyone knows this problem?
[11:08] <moetunes> Josesordo:  this might help - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Software_Toggle
[12:30] <bigbrovar_> hi guys, knew to xubuntu, just want to know what u guys generally use for bluetooth, gnome-bluetooth or blueman. Blueman seems a no brainer (because it is DE agnostic) but the project seems to be unmaintained .. gnome bluetooth seems maintained but am just afraid it might be too tired to gnome .. an ideas? xbuntu 11.04
[12:32] <ablomen> bigbrovar, i use blueman myself, works fine with my phone and my tablet
[12:52] <bigbrovar_> ablomen: thanks, couple of questions: Did u install blueman from the repository and which version on xubuntu are u using?
[12:53] <ablomen> bigbrovar, 10.10 and yes from the repo
[12:55] <bigbrovar_> ablomen: thanks .. and btw u need to upgrade to 11.04 already. pretty awesome man :)
[13:12] <buff27> hi
[14:22] <dusf> can anyone recommend a good way to search filesystems using the gui on xubuntu?
[14:22] <dusf> i was used to having it built into nautilus...
[14:24] <TheSheep> dusf: catfish
[14:34] <dusf> TheSheep: ty
[16:09] <usul2> running xubuntu and linux mint live cd the laptop fan works after install it does not. any ideas
[17:21] <KXTwo> wonder if Pici will ban me here too lol
[17:26] <usul2> live versions of xubuntu and mint 10 my laptop fan works, but after install doesnt work and overheats, any idea's
[17:29] <drc> usul2: Have you checked launchpad for bug reports, and/or googled with your computer model to see if anyone else has this problem?
[17:31] <usul2> drc, no i'm not sure how to do that i found one work arround though on the net. suspend wake it up and it seems to work.
[17:32] <drc> usul2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu for bug reports.
[17:32] <usul2> drc, i'm going to lunch if you reply it will be about 45 miin or so , but thanks
[17:36] <usul2> will check the link thanks
[17:36] <drc> usul2: no
[17:36] <drc> er...np :)
[18:10] <gadugadu8> hello
[18:11] <gadugadu8> why xubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso xubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent don't have the same weight ?
[18:11] <gadugadu8> (the torrent in a torrent client)
[18:12] <drc> gadugadu8: Because the torrent one is <only> a torrent file to get the iso, and the other is a full iso.
[18:12] <drc> yes, you must have a torrent client to use it.
[18:13] <gadugadu8> i know that, sorry, it was a mistake : i didn't read well
[18:14] <gadugadu8> 688 in firefox and 687.x in a bt client
[18:14] <gadugadu8> sorry
[18:14] <drc> np, not that I've ever done that ;)
[19:05] <roasted> is there a way to have xubuntu remember that my intel graphics card laptop is dual screened? its a pain to reconfigure it each time I boot up
[19:35] <sairasananas> I just installed xubuntu is there anything i should do?
[19:36] <Unit193> Have fun? What are you looking to do with it?
[19:36] <roasted> I'd like to have it recognize dual screen monitors.
[19:36] <roasted> :)
[19:36] <sairasananas> i mean something to do whit security like get some firewall???
[19:37] <Unit193> roasted: I would wait (some more....) for someone that knows and has used dual monitors (Not just someone that wants to...)
[19:37] <Unit193> sairasananas: Is it directly connected to the internet?
[19:37] <roasted> its just a little bit of a pita
[19:37] <sairasananas> yes
[19:38] <roasted> cause, do I dare say, gnome didnt have this issue
[19:38] <Unit193> roasted: You can always try Unity ;) (I'm sure there is a way to do it...)
[19:38] <roasted> I love unity
[19:38] <roasted> I'm just trying to test xfce for a bit
[19:39] <Unit193> !info gufw
[19:40] <sairasananas> please answer fast as i took something, i need computer secure fast :P
[19:42] <Unit193> sairasananas: I would install and configure gufw (I have never had a computer setup like you have)
[19:42] <sairasananas> give me url?
[19:43] <Unit193> sairasananas: Open synaptic and search for gufw (Linux works with repository, not download stuff from internet)
[19:43] <Unit193> !synaptic | sairasananas
[19:47] <sairasananas> vittu mun piti kattoa mun käsiä et mä näin eteen päin :(
[19:47] <Unit193> roasted: This may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1631680
[19:59] <alado23> hi, i just deinstalled xubuntu and installed xubuntu 11.04, now i can not change my resolution and im stuck with 800x648, i dont have a xorg.conf file and i can not change the resolution from the normal menu under settings, what can i do?
[20:00] <alado23> the xubuntu version from last fall worked flawlessly
[20:07] <aljona> I just installed xubuntu 10.04 and now i only have a 800x600 resolution, i can not change it under the setting menu and i do not have an xorg.conf file. It all worked well when i was running the previous version of xubuntu on the same machine. How can i fix this problem?
[20:11] <Unit193> aljona: When I get that, I just make a new xorg.conf (ctrl+alt+F1 > login >  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop > sudo X -configure > move the file)
[20:13] <aljona> Unit193, "move the file" which file do i have to move and from where to where?
[20:14] <Unit193> aljona: After you run X -configure, it will tell you the next command to test it (and if it works, sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf )
[20:16] <aljona> Unit193, and where will xorg.conf.new be created?
[20:17] <Unit193> aljona: Your current dir (So that command *should* work)
[20:17] <aljona> Unit193, ok i will give it a try, brb
[20:18] <Unit193> aljona: Good luck!
[20:23] <Unit193> aljona: Did you bork it? ;)
[20:23] <aljona> Unit193, ok now i did that and now i have a xorg.conf file, but still the same problem, i cant see any resolution set in the xorg.conf file either
[20:24] <aljona> this is really annoying.. it worked perfectly fine with the last xubuntu version
[20:25] <bin_bash> what's the difference between an xubuntu session and an xfce session?
[20:26] <Unit193> aljona: Would you mind > pastebin ?
[20:26] <aljona> Unit193, ok one sec
[20:26] <Unit193> bin_bash: Xubuntu session is configured for Xubuntu, XFCE is just the default (There are other reasons why you don't use it)
[20:26] <bin_bash> Which are? I'm using it now. What's so bad about it?
[20:27] <aljona> Unit193, http://pastebin.com/y8fa7X3J
[20:30] <bin_bash> Unit193, why not use it?
[20:30] <Unit193> aljona: 3 monitors? You can force a change using     Modes   "1024x768"     in the "screen" section and add     DefaultDepth    $DEPTH (where you put the other part)
[20:31] <Unit193> bin_bash: I don't remember right now... maybe one of the others know
[20:32] <aljona> Unit193, my computer just froze..(great day!) if you said something to me in the last few minutes i missed it
[20:33] <aljona> i really do not want to get rid of my beloved xubuntu...
[20:33] <bin_bash> aljona, what's going on with it?
[20:34] <aljona> bin_bash, i just installed 11.04 and now i can not change my resolution under the settings menu, im stuck with 800x600
[20:34] <bin_bash> hm
[20:34] <aljona> i just created a xorg.conf file, which i posted here above
[20:34] <bin_bash> which video card
[20:34] <aljona> some old intel card, its a laptop from 2002-2003
[20:35] <bin_bash> hmmmm
[20:35] <aljona> but it worked flawlessly with the previous version of xubuntu
[20:35] <bin_bash> did it work in 10.10?
[20:35] <aljona> yes
[20:35] <bin_bash> might want to just go back then
[20:36] <aljona> yes maybe so..
[20:36] <Unit193> aljona: Take a look at the end http://paste.ubuntu.com/609699/
[20:37] <aljona> Unit193, did you edit my file?
[20:37] <Unit193> aljona: No, this is an example (What screen res do you want?)
[20:37] <aljona> 1024x768
[20:40] <aljona> Unit193, should i just try to add the resolution to the last subsection "display"?
[20:40] <Unit193> aljona: Yeah, it may look like: http://pastebin.com/xT5Jim7N (Your config)
[20:41] <Unit193> A little edited...
[20:41] <aljona> ok, will give it a try, brb
[20:46] <aljona> Unit193, nope that didnt work either
[20:46] <aljona> Unit193, im giving up here, i will try to install ubuntu instead
[20:49] <Unit193> aljona: That's a bummer it didn't work...
[20:49] <Unit193> aljona: Good luck with Ubuntu (And Unity ;) )
[20:51] <xrdodrx> does xubuntu natty have gparted on it?
[20:51] <aljona> Unit193, yes it will be interesting to see how that turned out
[20:54]  * drc wonders what aljona thinks will be different with X under Ubuntu/Unity...the guts are the same (unless I'm way out in left field).
[20:55] <n2diy>  Can I mix and match Ext 3 and Ext 4 file systems? I building a test/backup box, and I was thinking of formatting it Ext 4, but my main box is using Ext 3?
[20:58] <Soupermanito> yes
[20:59] <Soupermanito> they are just filesystems, you could even use fat32 and nfts, tho i dont recomend the last, but you could
[21:00] <xrdodrx> does xubuntu 11.04 include the gparted partition editor?
[21:00] <Soupermanito> i don't know, it can be easily installed tho
[21:00] <Soupermanito> !gparted
[21:00] <xrdodrx> Soupermanito, while using the disk?
[21:00] <xrdodrx> :?
[21:01] <rww> yup
[21:01] <rww> livecds can install software
[21:01] <Soupermanito> xrdodrx, i don't understand you? im using a 500gb drive whit ntfs/fat32/ext3/swap on the same drive
[21:02] <xrdodrx> rww, um, lol, forgive my ignorance, but where does the installed software "go"
[21:02] <xrdodrx> The disk isn't RW
[21:02] <rww> xrdodrx: the temporary filesystem in RAM, I believe
[21:02] <xrdodrx> oh...
[21:02] <xrdodrx> :D
[21:02] <xrdodrx> thanks
[21:02] <drc> xrdodrx: The LiveCD/USB contains <a> partition editor...I'm not sure that it will let you <re-size> existing partitions without losing data, but you can re-partition hdd's during the install process
[21:04] <Soupermanito> drc <I> love how <you> highlight words
[21:05] <drc> Soupermanito: It's <merely> an attention getter for <those> who read fast :)
[21:05] <drc> Beats Capitalizing
[21:05] <rww> *this* is better and is autoconverted to bold in some clients ;P
[21:06] <drc> Well...Dress me up and call me Shirley...didn't know that...that's even better
[21:13] <n2diy> I'm building a test box with a SATA 160g hard drive. I can't set the boot flag on the drive, it is an OEM drive that has WIN NT, and XP on it, and it won't boot those, ideas?
[21:19] <drc> n2diy: Do you wnat to use the whole drivNT/XP partitions)?e for Xubuntu *i.e., get rid of the
[21:19] <drc> whoa...
[21:20] <drc> n2diy: Do you want to use the whole drive for Xubuntu (i.e., get rid of the NT/XP partitions)?
[21:31] <n2diy> drc, yes. I'm now installing without a boot flag set, maybe GRUB will fix it?
[21:42] <xrdodrx> when I was installing xubuntu
[21:42] <xrdodrx> it said "Sorry, the installer crashed"
[21:42] <xrdodrx> Should I try again??
[21:46] <xrdodrx> guess I'll just format the partition table and try again then...
[21:46] <xrdodrx> :s
[21:49] <xrdodrx> okay
[21:49] <xrdodrx> so on re-running the installer
[21:49] <xrdodrx> ubi-partman failed with exit code 10
[21:50] <xrdodrx> :(
[21:53] <xrdodrx> pastebin.com/WWVKatSP
[21:53] <xrdodrx> any help/
[21:53] <xrdodrx> ?*
[21:57] <xrdodrx> wow :|
[21:58] <Sysi> you could try alternate-image
[21:58] <looooooool> hello
[21:59] <xrdodrx> Sysi, does alternate image do this
[21:59] <xrdodrx> or use whatever ubiquity installer thing
[21:59] <looooooool> xubuntu running on my pc? I have 192MB ram, 1.2 ghz amd sempron (socket a)
[21:59] <xrdodrx> my whole system is hanging now
[21:59] <xrdodrx> :(
[22:00] <xrdodrx> Force power off, Sysi ? And then do alternate image?
[22:00] <Sysi> xrdodrx: alternate images use different installer
[22:01] <xrdodrx> okay, downloading right now
[22:01] <Sysi> burn disc or create usb-stick on some machine
[22:01] <xrdodrx> it's basically the debian classical install right?
[22:01] <Sysi> yup
[22:03] <xrdodrx> Sysi, I tried to shut down my computer [netbook] but the screen is full of SQUASHFS errors and the CD tray came out
[22:03] <xrdodrx> wonder what's wrong :<
[22:03] <xrdodrx> Should I pull its battery out?
[22:05] <bigbrovar> Hi guys, am a total xfce noob, I was just wondering if there is a tool for configuring multi touch on touch pad
[22:06] <Sysi> xinput/xorg.conf/gpointing-device-settings etc. works
[22:07] <xrdodrx> :/
[22:08] <xrdodrx> wow this install is going really bad
[22:08] <xrdodrx> I've never had this many problems with ubuntu
[22:08] <xrdodrx> SQUASHFS and end_request errors everywhere
[22:08] <xrdodrx> :(
[22:08] <xrdodrx> guess I'll just pull the battery lol
[22:13] <ProlificPuffin> So I am a recent convert from The "U" version...
[22:15] <Soupermanito> :D
[22:16] <Soupermanito> welcome
[22:16] <Soupermanito> we need a !welcome
[22:16] <Soupermanito> !welcome
[22:18] <xrdodrx> Sysi, I tried to boot with no disk in for grins and giggles, but despite all the errors it still booted lol
[22:18] <xrdodrx> I don´t trust that something isn't broken though, so I'm going to reinstall with the alternate disk since I already burned it
[22:23] <ProlificPuffin> LOL
[22:24] <xrdodrx> ProlificPuffin, I thought so too xD
[22:25] <xrdodrx> ProlificPuffin, I installed it, it crashed three times, the whole system hung, I went into the terminal and ordered sudo shutdown now and the tray popped out and errors that said SQUASHFS and end_request filled the screen
[22:25] <xrdodrx> (the installer crashed three times)
[22:25] <xrdodrx> so I don't trust something with the install wasn't seriously work O.i
[22:25] <xrdodrx> wrong**
[22:26] <xrdodrx> ProlificPuffin, I too am coming from the "U" version :D
[22:26] <ProlificPuffin> Great!
[22:27] <ProlificPuffin> I was holding back, and thinking about reinstalling Lucid to get one more year out of Gnome 2x,  but I quickly found I could virtually replicate (even improve) my desktop in XFCE...I am soo happy...I can now ignore the Unity debates...lol
[22:28] <ProlificPuffin> So I am on Xubuntu 11.04...all the functionality of Ubuntu...fewer calories... :)
[22:28] <xrdodrx> same, ProlificPuffin
[22:29] <xrdodrx> I tried ubuntu 11.04 + unity and it didn't meet my needs...can't even add applets to the panel, x_X
[22:29] <xrdodrx> Also the icons were huge, I guess that's good for tablets but I don't have one lol
[22:30] <dusf> since upgrading to xubuntu 11.04 additional drivers reports that my nvidia driver for me 7300 LE is active but not currently in use and i have problems with fps and 3d. lspci -k reports 'Kernel modules: nvidia-current, nouveau, nvidiafb' even after i have black listed nouveau in boot options, sudo-updated grub, and rebooted. are any of you also using xubuntu 11.04 and an nvidia card?
[22:30] <drc> yup
[22:31] <ProlificPuffin> I have posted SEVERAL tirades on forums about what a complete waste Unity is. But I just do not care anymore. Yes, I have GT 430 1GB, running the 270 Nvidia driver...
[22:33] <ProlificPuffin> I had an issue w/the noveau drivers. I do not remember where I found them, but there are instructions for complete purging out there. I then ran the proprietary drive from a terminal login/telinit 3... The only downside, is you have to do that for every kernel update... :(
[22:39] <dusf> crap, i wish he hadn't left
[22:58] <Soupermanito> dusf, you still have that problem? the nvidia vs noveau
[22:58] <dusf> Soupermanito: yes, i just purged noveau
[22:58] <dusf> with sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[22:58] <Soupermanito> :)
[22:59] <dusf> Soupermanito: haven't yet rebooted, is that the fix?
[23:00] <Soupermanito> apparently it is, yes, and then you add noveau to the boot blacklist so it wont try to mount it
[23:01] <Soupermanito> http://paste.ubuntu.com/609789/
[23:01] <Soupermanito> also you can install the latest drivers from the nvidia site
[23:02] <xrdodrx> Sysi, that was really good advice, thanks! :D I think I'll do all future installs of ubuntu with the alt-cd, it's so much faster :)
[23:02] <dusf> Soupermanito: i have never installed drivers from nvidia's site, always just use additional drivers option
[23:03] <dusf> Soupermanito: i'm using nvidia173 which i have been told is suspiciously old but i had thought that was just because i was using an old 7300 LE
[23:03] <Soupermanito> kk, you shouldnt have problems now
[23:05] <dusf> Soupermanito: previously i had tried black listing by changing a line to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset rdblacklist=nouveau" in /etc/default/grub
[23:06] <dusf> Soupermanito: i have followed the instructions from your link, should i now add nvidia drivers from their site, or reboot first?
[23:06] <Soupermanito> add the drivers http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-270.41.06-driver.html
[23:09] <dusf> Soupermanito: downloading atm. do nvidia not have some repo for linux users, or is there no way ubuntu can add that driver to theirs? i mean if they have proprietary drivers available to people from repos, why not have this one available?
[23:13] <Soupermanito> i think ubuntu use safe drivers, and this are latest drivers, thats about it, the safe drivers should work, but this ones are new :P
[23:17] <dusf> Soupermanito: thanks :) how do i install this .run file?
[23:17] <dusf> wait i think if i go into term and ./blahblah.run it might do it
[23:17] <Soupermanito> it should, but it wont XD
[23:18] <Soupermanito> you need to run it from a tty
[23:18] <Soupermanito> it wont install from inside X
[23:18] <dusf> Soupermanito: i need to press an f key or something when x asks me for my password?
[23:19] <Soupermanito> you should give it your root password
[23:19] <Soupermanito> it needs root powers
[23:19] <dusf> hehe powers
[23:20] <dusf> Soupermanito: kk, then nav to the script ./NVIDIA-linux...... .run and then do a 'shutdown now -g'?
[23:20] <Soupermanito> its easy just go to a tty and log in, then just sudo /path/to/nvidiadrivers.run
[23:20] <Soupermanito> yes
[23:20] <dusf> Soupermanito: okay ty brb!
[23:20] <Soupermanito> :)
[23:25] <dusf> Soupermanito: in the tty now, but when i try sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux ...... .run
[23:25] <dusf> it says command not found, am i instead to some how enter a sudo 'mode', and then just ./NVIDIA.... ?
[23:26] <dusf> tried logging in with root username and my password but it didn't work
[23:29] <Soupermanito> do su
[23:29] <Soupermanito> XD i mean, dont use sudo, just su
[23:29] <dusf> uhm
[23:29] <dusf> replace sudo with su, or enter su on the line before?
[23:29] <dusf> i'll try both
[23:29] <dusf> brb :D
[23:38] <dusf> Soupermanito: there is no root accoutn enabled, i am reading online how to enable it, is this necessary or can i just try maybe 'sudo -i', and then ./NVIDIA-Linux.......run ?
[23:40] <Soupermanito> dusf, you should simple sudo it, i did it like that and it worked
[23:40] <dusf> Soupermanito: it says command not found when i try
[23:40] <dusf> tried several times, confirming it was sudo i typed
[23:41] <dusf> although curiously after typing ./NVI and pressing tab it would not complete it
[23:41] <Soupermanito> what i did was to point it directly, like >sudo /media/Drive500GB/tempfiles/NVIDIA_blah_blah.run
[23:41] <Soupermanito> XD thats your problem you are not pointing it correctly
[23:42] <dusf> Soupermanito: ah, i was puttinh a dot before the leading / like ./NVIDIA-Linux...run
[23:42] <dusf> i thought you put a dot there to run scripts
[23:42] <dusf> brb
[23:43] <Soupermanito> what the f...
[23:43] <Soupermanito> brb
[23:44] <Soupermanito> that was weird
[23:49] <dusf> Soupermanito: i'm getting a combination of 'permission denied' and 'command not found'
[23:50] <Soupermanito> shit, well just install the old ones from synaptic and move on
[23:50] <Soupermanito> XD
[23:50] <Soupermanito> it should work
[23:50] <dusf> Soupermanito: had to navigate to the dir containing the file to get the full name of it with ls, once there i tried sudo /NVIDIA....run, sudo /media/DUMP/Downloads/NVIDIA...run, also both with a leading dot and with su before hand
[23:50] <dusf> Soupermanito: no! :(
[23:51] <Soupermanito> dusf, you know how to use autocompletion?
[23:51] <dusf> Soupermanito: would it matter the drivers on an NTFS partition?
[23:51] <dusf> Soupermanito: with tab, pressing tab after i type sudo /NVI doesn't do anything
[23:51] <Soupermanito> nope their are in mine also
[23:52] <Soupermanito> dusf, if you are inside the folder that contains the nivida driver then you should add the ./NV then tab
[23:52] <Soupermanito> it should auto complete
[23:52] <dusf> Soupermanito: testing now while in xc
[23:52] <dusf> x
[23:52] <Soupermanito> if you use the whole path you start from /
[23:52] <dusf> dusf@banshee:/media/DUMP/Downloads$
[23:53] <dusf> Soupermanito: dusf@banshee:/media/DUMP/Downloads$ ./NV
[23:53] <dusf> pressing tab there does nothing...
[23:53] <Soupermanito> then do >sudo ./NVI and press tab, then the file aint there
[23:54] <dusf> Soupermanito: that doesn't work either, but it is there because i'm looking at it and will link output of ls -l now
[23:54] <Soupermanito> if i do it, it autocompletes whit tab
[23:55] <Soupermanito> :/
[23:56] <Soupermanito> >soup@soup-desktop:/media/Documentos500/temp$ ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-270.41.06.run
[23:57] <dusf> Soupermanito: http://pastebin.com/9bDhajzD
[23:58] <dusf> Soupermanito: fixed it, needed to chmod +x it for some reason
[23:58] <dusf> brb!
[23:58] <dusf> exit
[23:58] <dusf> :)