[01:08] <UndiFineD> dispite the bugs, unity seems to be addictive
[02:55] <Omega> DBO: You got quoted on omgubuntu and they didn't even know it was you :P
[03:40] <xorpt> Hi there!
[03:40] <xorpt> I
[03:40] <xorpt> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04, when I open a modal window the menus from the parent window remain accessible, is this by design?
[07:34] <Saviq> hi guys, I'm suddenly getting some weird repainiting issues with unity-2d, on both current HEAD and r560, which worked some two days ago
[07:34] <Saviq> it's like the titlebar / menubar gets repainted but not its background - the labels and buttons get layered on top of each other on every hover
[07:36] <Saviq> it works fine on the PPA version, but not on those that I've compiled myself... any idea what might going on here?
[07:36] <Saviq> +be
[07:43] <Saviq> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/zrzutekranune.png/ here's a screenshot - it's like the panel didn't get any background at all
[07:43] <Saviq> nothing interesting in the logs, either
[08:00] <didrocks> good morning
[08:06] <oSoMoN> good morning
[08:26] <Saviq> hi guys, have you seen http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/zrzutekranune.png/ before?
[08:27] <Saviq> that's unity-2d-panel, it's like the panel doesn't get the background for some reason
[08:27] <Saviq> and it only happens when I build it myself from bzr, it's fine from PPA :/
[11:06] <hicham> morning didrocks
[11:06] <didrocks> hey hicham
[11:07] <hicham> didrocks: I managed to get some changes to unity launcher wrapper script, to add ini backend support
[11:08] <didrocks> hicham: well, that doesn't fix your autostart issue, isn't it?
[11:08] <didrocks> hicham: I think we shouldn't use the unity launcher wrapper to launch unity, python is expensive
[11:08] <hicham> didrocks: it does
[11:08] <hicham> didrocks: what do you use to launch unity ?
[11:08] <didrocks> so you are using the unity wrapper to launch unity? :/
[11:08] <didrocks> hicham: the system I explained the other day?
[11:09] <didrocks> with the env variable, and starting compiz with that profile
[11:09] <hicham> didrocks: yes, but how can we make sure that the unity profile is ok ?
[11:09] <hicham> didrocks: or is that up to the user ?
[11:09] <didrocks> hicham: we provides defaults, then, if the user want to change them, I don't see why we want to prevent them to do that
[11:10] <didrocks> we just provides default in a profile
[11:10] <didrocks> I think I insisted the past couple of week to not use the wrapper to start unity
[11:11] <didrocks> hicham: for instance, if you use the wrapper, you won't get autorestart for required components
[11:13] <hicham> didrocks: ok then I think that some patches need to go into compizconfig/ccsm
[11:13] <hicham> didrocks: ccsm doesn't take into account COMPIZ_CONFIG_PROFILE
[11:13] <didrocks> hicham: it does
[11:13] <didrocks> here at least
[11:13] <didrocks> and we don't carry patches for that
[11:14] <hicham> didrocks: ccsm ?
[11:14] <didrocks> hicham: again, yes :)
[11:14] <hicham> didrocks: :\
[11:14] <didrocks> hicham: as I suggested a lot of times, you should try ubuntu in a vm to look at what we have…
[11:15] <hicham> didrocks: and you see "unity" as the profile in ccsm Preferences ?
[11:15] <didrocks> 12:13:46   didrocks | hicham: it does
[11:15] <didrocks> -> so that's a yes, I see and act on unity
[11:15] <didrocks> really, you should install a vm to test by yourself
[11:15] <hicham> ok
[11:15] <didrocks> hicham: maybe it's an issue with the ini backend
[11:16] <didrocks> I don't see any other explanation…
[13:16] <toros> hi
[13:17] <spikeb> hi
[13:18] <toros> I understand that Unity 2D will switch to compiz. Could someone tell me, when this switch will be made? In Oneiric? Or just later?
[13:18] <spikeb> should be in time for oneiric
[13:18] <toros> thank you!
[13:26] <andyrock> but there will be a 2d compiz?
[13:31] <spikeb> yes. compiz is gaining a 2d mode.
[13:34] <toros> just a quick question: If Unity 2D can run on Compiz, then why do we need Unity 3D at all?
[13:35] <toros> Couldn't we just use the Qt based Unity, and turn on additional effects where available? Like in KWin...
[13:36] <spikeb> honestly, i have no idea
[13:36] <andyrock> first of all, qt 4.x have 3d effects?
[14:11] <andreasn> JohnLea, ping
[14:15] <JohnLea> andreasn; pong
[14:25] <andreasn> JohnLea, hey, one of the Thunderbird requirements that came up during the session at UDS was "styling improvements".
[14:25] <andreasn> JohnLea, I like to figure out what those are together with you
[14:31] <andreasn> I guess part of it is to make sure Thunderbird picks up as many Ubuntu icon set icons as possible, but it would be good to know where else to improve too
[14:33] <JohnLea> andreasn; no prob, how about a call at 17:00 BST?  What is the best number to reach you on?
[14:33] <andreasn> What time zone is BST?
[14:33] <toros> British Summer Time?
[14:34] <andreasn> ah, never heard that.
[14:34] <toros> (UTC+1Ö
[14:34] <toros> )
[14:34] <toros> I mean UTC+1 :)
[14:34] <andreasn> JohnLea, +46703056753
[14:39] <JohnLea> andreasn; cool, I'll call you at 5
[15:33] <John__> Hi; My name is John and I am currently researching ways to convert my newly purchased laptop to a OS that is similar to Windows but without all of the headaches associated with it.
[16:30] <andyrock> good evening!
[16:34] <andyrock> what about adding the "Keep in Launcher" item to the quiklist of device icon?
[16:34] <andyrock> *icons
[16:35] <andyrock> njpatel, ^^^
[16:52] <nmarques> I have a question, unity-place-applications isnt showing any applications at all, how can I check why this is happening ?
[17:01] <hicham> nmarques: you didn't use any patch ?
[17:02] <nmarques> hicham, not really, except I'm running Unity on openSUSE and not on Ubuntu... everything is working besides that
[17:03] <hicham> nmarques: it worked out of the box on Fedora
[17:03] <nmarques> unity on fedora ?
[17:06] <nmarques> hmmz I think I found the error
[17:07] <hicham> what is it ?
[17:08] <lamalex> anyone use any adobe air apps? want to confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769728 for me?
[17:14] <nmarques> hicham, double dash in unity-place-applications.menu
[17:14] <nmarques> hicham, they are showing now :)
[17:15] <nmarques> which means, I only have 2 problems left to fix and then I can release Unity for openSUSE :)
[17:18] <andreasn> JohnLea, andreas@andreasn.se
[17:54] <hicham> nmarques: what are the problems that you still have ?
[17:56] <nmarques> hicham, text not showing in the dash icons and it crashes on logout
[17:56] <nmarques> hicham, all the rest seems to be working fine
[17:57] <hicham> nmarques: you mean text not showing when the mouse is on one of the dash's icons ?
[17:58] <nmarques> hicham, those big icons when you open the dash, the ones from gnome preferences (default programs) have no text
[17:59] <hicham> nmarques: how did you choose to load unity ? using the python wrapper script ?
[18:00] <nmarques> hicham, normal session stuff through gnome-session --session
[18:01] <nmarques> hicham, but I'll take a look later on, right now fixing some prototypes on utouch-geis
[18:01] <hicham> nmarques: you had a crash on libutouch-geis ?
[18:01] <nmarques> hicham, I think the crash on logout is related to utouch-geis
[18:02] <hicham> nmarques: I wouldn't advise you to use utouch unless you have xi2.1 support
[18:02] <hicham> nmarques: I submitted a patch to build without utouch support
[18:02] <nmarques> lp741404 ?
[18:05] <hicham> nmarques: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/780028
[18:05] <nmarques> hicham, you are doing this now instead of Adam ?
[18:09] <hicham> nmarques: no
[18:09] <hicham> nmarques: you packaged the indicators ?
[18:10] <nmarques> hicham, yeah
[18:10] <nmarques> hicham, that was my first thing
[18:10] <nmarques> hicham, but like you I'm an outcast :P
[18:11] <nmarques> hicham, we both have to live from different repo's because I doubt Fedora will accept the GTK patches on their core stuff
[18:11] <hicham> nmarques: I worked around that, somewhat
[18:12] <nmarques> hicham, well, for my side I don't really care, once everything is done, I will generate an .iso and distribute it as a spin
[18:12] <hicham> nmarques: I don't see really any big blockers to get it into fedora
[18:13] <nmarques> hicham, talk to adam williamson from QA :)
[18:13] <nmarques> hicham, he will point you a few
[18:13] <nmarques> hicham, starting with deviations from upstream in core packages like GTK+
[18:13] <hicham> nmarques: there are only two packages left to go : nux and libunity-misc, before unity
[18:14] <nmarques> hicham, nux is a pain :)
[18:14] <hicham> nmarques: why ?
[18:14] <nmarques> hicham, you will see :)
[18:15] <nmarques> hicham, https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Aketheriel%3Aayatana
[18:15] <nmarques> hicham, if that helps, should be easy enough to convert the specs from suse to fedora
[18:15] <nmarques> hicham, and I've used pkgconfig() calls as much as possible
[18:16] <hicham> nmarques: I already did some specs, though they are not up-to-date
[18:17] <hicham> nmarques: in what sense nux is a pain ?
[18:19] <nmarques> hicham, glew for starters
[18:19] <hicham> nmarques: we have glew_mx in the repos
[18:20] <nmarques> prototypes fixed :P
[18:22] <hicham> you copied the missing ones from XI2.h ?
[18:24] <rye> is there any way of asking Unity Launcher to tell which application is asking it to display the notification corner thing? http://ubuntuone.com/p/uM3/
[18:41] <hicham> rye: ~/.xsession-errors
[18:42] <hicham> rye : you can set the notication area to accept all applets in gsettings
[18:42] <rye> hicham, am I searching for something specific?
[18:42] <rye> hicham, i don't think i follow
[18:42] <hicham> rye : TrayRejected and TrayAccepted
[18:43] <rye> hicham, are you talking about the indicator applet area or the launcher/panel notification corner thing pictured at http://ubuntuone.com/p/uM3/ ?
[18:44] <hicham> rye: no
[20:17] <vanbcguy> Hi all, I have a USB audio device which is working fine, however it seems the volume controls are not really aligned with the hardware.  Turning it down to about 40% completely turns sound off.
[20:18] <vanbcguy> Can this be changed?
[21:29] <hicham> nmarques: you fixed the crash on logout ?
[21:29] <nmarques> hicham, not yet
[21:29] <hicham> nmarques: did you try a build without utouch ?
[21:30] <nmarques> hicham, nope... I'll look into it later, there's a few things I need to do before
[21:31] <hicham> nmarques: do you have xi2.1 patches in suse ?
[21:31] <wankdanker> Hi all! I have a dual-monitor set up and am wondering if it is possible to remove the title bar (or whatever it is called) from the monitor on the right? (natty)
[21:32] <nmarques> hicham, nope
[21:32] <nmarques> hicham, there's a new release today
[21:32] <nmarques> hicham, it does build without them
[21:33] <hicham> nmarques: a new release of what ?
[21:33] <nmarques> hicham, utouch-geis
[21:33] <nmarques> hicham, I don't really care for multitouch support :)
[21:34] <hicham> nmarques: I don't either, that is what I disabled it