[00:01] <jakubo> night
[00:01] <magn3ts> is 11.10 not LTS?
[00:01] <magn3ts> I thought it was .
[00:01] <jakubo> nope
[00:01] <jakubo> 12.04 will be
[00:01] <magn3ts> Ah
[00:01] <jakubo> 8.04, 10.04, 12.04
[00:02] <BUGabundo> not there's an hard rule for it
[00:03] <jakubo> but i wonder how much behind they will be in systemd and stuff since the incoming "threat" of stableizing until 12.04 is to be attacked
[00:03] <jakubo> guess until 12.10 the releases will remain rather boring...
[00:06] <magn3ts> Heh, Natty wasn't enough for you?'
[00:07] <jakubo> i like natty
[00:08] <BUGabundo> natty is old
[00:08] <BUGabundo> I used it 6 months ago
[00:08] <jakubo> so did i
[00:08] <jakubo> and it didnt change much^^
[01:48] <BUGabundo> nite
[02:37] <n0yd> Is there a way to download a daily/nightly build of ocelet? im fine with breakage
[02:42] <micahg> n0yd: try testdrive
[02:43] <n0yd> ie. testing in a vm?
[02:43] <micahg> n0yd: yes, but testdrive can rsync the latest ISO
[02:43] <n0yd> id really prefer a striaght iso...
[02:44] <n0yd> oh ok
[02:44] <n0yd> i just fine it odd its nit available anywhere
[02:44] <micahg> n0yd: you don't have to run it in the VM if you don't want to
[02:44] <micahg> n0yd: oh, hmm, I guess there are no images yet
[02:44] <n0yd> i know its knew and plenty of breakage occurs, but still
[02:44] <n0yd> new*
[02:49] <n0yd> Anyone know if wubi keeps the iso it downloaded via torrent for sebsequent installs?
[03:04] <jbicha> n0yd: daily images haven't been built yet, things are still in very early transition
[03:56] <knightautwell> hey hows everyone doing today
[03:57] <pooltable> when will the 11.11 or 10.11 going to start testing ?
[03:58] <IdleOne> !schedule
[03:58] <knightautwell> whats the new verison going to have?
[03:59] <knightautwell> anyone?>
[03:59] <pooltable> not sure
[03:59] <IdleOne> it isn't even alpha yet
[04:00] <pooltable> i do not like the unity thing
[04:00] <knightautwell> i know lol but what are they planning on implementing
[04:00] <knightautwell> me either thats why i use classic
[04:01] <knightautwell> i personally like classic better. it screws with my graphics card
[04:02] <knightautwell> i mean unity screws with my graphics card
[04:02] <pooltable> make it look more like mac i know some people will not like it but is easy to use like ubuntu is easy to use for most first timers
[04:02] <knightautwell> you mean make ubuntu look more like a mac?
[04:02] <IdleOne> if I wanted to use OSX I would buy it
[04:02] <pooltable> in a way yes
[04:02] <IdleOne> make it look like Ubuntu
[04:03] <knightautwell> lol i tried to dual bot osx lion it didnt work out as planned lol
[04:03] <pooltable> i know
[04:04] <pooltable> i like osx i just wish there way a cheaper why to buy a mac
[04:04] <pooltable> for the price of a mac i can buy al most two computers
[04:04] <knightautwell> i know lol. it messed up. they are more exclusive too. more support as well
[04:05] <pooltable> another question if you may help is i have a picture with the word proof on it like to edit it out what the the best way to do that?
[04:05] <knightautwell> gimp lol
[04:06] <pooltable> any other ?
[04:06] <knightautwell> uhm not to sure you could try paint shop pro using wine other than that im not sure.
[04:07] <knightautwell> i havent used ubuntu much lol i had to switch back because of a tracking bug on my laptop haha
[04:08] <pooltable> i only useing ubuntu due to a bad sector on hard drive linux or ubuntu know how to handel them better
[04:09] <knightautwell> i like ubuntu alot because if somethings wrong its easier to fix it than windows lol. windows is too locked down for my liking
[04:10] <knightautwell> cant you fix the bad sector tho with a repair disk? or hirens boot cd?
[04:12] <pooltable> well at the time i think i refomat the hadr drive 1 windows 7 2 ubuntu 3 windows 7 4 ubuntu so  4 times ever time i went back to windows 7 xp it run for about a month then i get errors
[04:13] <LLStarks> there are serious focus issues with firefox with these gnome3 updates
[04:13] <knightautwell> lol sounds about what i do lol i do mine on purpose tho i get tired of one and i switch to the other lol
[04:15] <pooltable> so now i on ubuntu to i get  one new hadr drive or new computer
[04:15] <pooltable> hard
[04:15] <knightautwell> lol that sucks
[04:18] <pooltable> well i am looking and wating for the new AMD X8
[04:19] <pooltable> so i will jump from what i have to a X8 a huge junp
[04:20] <pooltable> i cant to get my deam computer under 1000 no matter what i do if i buy the part i not sure how to put the motherboard in the caes or the CPU on the monther board so that will cost me money
[04:22] <pooltable> what do you think of no OPEN OFFICE ?
[04:22] <pooltable> the new one for me takes longer to load
[04:34] <knightautwell> i have a question login screen settings wont unlock when i press the unlock button
[05:11] <knightautwell> hey i have a problem i tried  to uninstall KDE and it screwed up bad lol now it wont boot to the log in screen it hangs
[05:12] <knightautwell> how can i fix my boot up files?
[05:15] <knightautwell> anyone?
[05:20] <braiam> knightautwell: go to #kubuntu , they should know ;)
[05:21] <knightautwell> why kubuntu?
[05:24] <braiam> knightautwell: kubuntu is the kde flavor of ubuntu :/
[05:25] <knightautwell> hey whats your take on gnome 3?
[06:42] <litropy> First, I want to thank you guys for everything you do. Where can I find a discussions and/or collated list of intended changes for Oneiric Ocelot?
[06:43] <bazhang> litropy, some major blogs covering UDS
[06:43] <litropy> s/find a/find
[06:43] <litropy> bazhang, thanks. searching ...
[06:43] <bazhang> litropy, I saw at webupd8
[07:08] <bobweaver> anyone know where i can get a daily build of 11.10? if there is one?
[07:17] <bobweaver> I see that alpha1 comes out june 2nd
[07:20] <nit-wit> can't find any
[09:49] <DocPlatypus> who's bright idea was it to get rid of the classic GNOME interface for 11.10?
[09:50] <daedaluz> Shuttleworth, I presume
[09:50] <kklimonda> gnome developers'
[09:50] <kklimonda> there is no "classic" gnome in gnome3 anyway.
[09:52] <daedaluz> was 11.10 the new LTS again
[09:52] <DocPlatypus> no 12.04 is the new LTS, I think
[09:52] <daedaluz> good. there's just too much new stuff flying around to make it LTS
[09:53] <DocPlatypus> I still like GNOME 3's interface much more than Unity, looking at the screenshots
[09:53] <kklimonda> don't judge the book by its cover.
[09:54] <kklimonda> it's nice but, at least for now, less polished than unity
[09:54] <DocPlatypus> though in honesty... I still prefer GNOME 2 to either
[09:56] <daedaluz> luckily there's XFCE. I heard quite a lot GNOME developers defected to that project
[09:58] <DocPlatypus> XFCE does look interesting, and it looks like they borrowed a lot from GNOME
[10:01] <DocPlatypus> looks like I am sticking to 11.04 for a while then
[10:02] <DocPlatypus> or maybe someone will make a GNOME variant of Ubuntu a la Kubuntu, Xubuntu et al
[10:13]  * tsimpson would say "GNOME variant of Ubuntu is Ubuntu", but people are all like "OMG CHANGE!! I HATEZ CHANGE!!!"
[10:18] <daedaluz> I still think Unity is a terrible idea. nothing wrong with change, but GNOME3 is much better thought out entity, has more developers & distros backing it and has fewer dependencies.
[10:20] <tsimpson> OMG!! CHANGE, IT BURNS!!
[10:21] <daedaluz> well, name one thing that's better in Unity than in GNOME3
[10:22] <tsimpson> I haven't tried GNOME3 yet, so anything I say would be baseless
[11:43] <matrixa1> daedaluz, nautilus, because i'd rather look for the executable and click it than use unity
[11:44] <matrixa1> though, it's the best solution for tablets
[11:58] <ior3k> does the gnome3 panel support app indicators?
[11:58] <ior3k> I use xmonad and gnome, so unity is out of the question for me, but I'm pretty fond of app indicators (including appmenu)
[15:24] <hifi> ok, what the heck is broken that gimp, eye of gnome and even ristretto is broken
[15:25] <hifi> gimp can still load images but whines about unsupported type png, eog just fails to open and ristretto says "loading" but does not show anything
[15:25] <hifi> some common component is missing
[15:28] <hifi> is it gtk that is borked
[15:38] <arand> hifi: Works for me on uity2d, before opening the floodgates of recent updates..
[15:38] <hifi> (gpicview:32532): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading icon from file '/usr/share/pixmaps/gpicview.png':
[15:38] <hifi>         Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/pixmaps/gpicview.png'
[15:38] <hifi> /usr/share/pixmaps/gpicview.png: PNG image data, 48 x 48, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced
[15:38] <hifi> it has lost all image formats except jpg
[15:39] <hifi> some recent update broke it
[15:39] <hifi> during this week
[15:39] <hifi> this is starting to get a bit annoying, would like to find out what it was...
[15:42] <hifi> right, reinstalling libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 fixed it
[15:42] <hifi> back to business
[16:33] <arand> hmm, eog and co. still works, though the upgrade borked gtk theme engine for me :)
[16:34] <IdleOne> !partial
[17:07] <g0bl1n> In Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.10 the Workspace Switcher was much more awesome than in Unity 11.04. It "ordered" all hidden the windows. Can't Unity do that ? Will it be planned to 11.10 ?
[17:07] <g0bl1n> * the hidden
[19:33] <gnomefreak> anyone know if libgvfscommon0 is safe to remove?
[19:33]  * gnomefreak not seeing a problem with removing it 
[19:37] <gnomefreak> also what do i need to do to read an .azw?
[22:41] <lucas-arg> pleeease make ubuntu boot look niceeeee with all video cards!... go back to usplash if its neccesary!
[23:25] <BUGabundo> so who broke metacity?
[23:25] <BUGabundo> as if compiz wasn't bad enough already
[23:25] <BUGabundo> did we drop the entire WM now?
[23:33]  * charlie-tca thinks it might be the latest in improvements
[23:35] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: no WM is NOT an improvement
[23:35] <charlie-tca> heh
[23:35] <BUGabundo> I have a BIG blue "desktop" that I can't click
[23:35] <BUGabundo> even if my soccer club is blue and won't the europe championchio yesterday
[23:35] <BUGabundo> its not fun to see that much blue
[23:35] <BUGabundo> plues no composite
[23:36] <BUGabundo> and very ugly GTK unthemed
[23:36] <IdleOne> BUGabundo: have you tried ubuntu classic (no effects)?
[23:36] <BUGabundo> tried to reload metacity and load compiz
[23:36] <BUGabundo> no luch
[23:36] <BUGabundo> it just kills the terminal
[23:36] <BUGabundo> IdleOne: I'm on classic
[23:36] <BUGabundo> since for ever
[23:45] <arand> Yea, I got no gtk theme engine as well, though the unity2d stuff around it seems to still be working a-ok
[23:46] <BUGabundo> arand: so anything posted to LP?
[23:47] <BUGabundo> or is it a feature?
[23:47] <arand> I think it's in the feature stage yet, did a quick search..
[23:49] <BUGabundo> and updates are getting slower and slower
[23:49] <IdleOne> it's funny how people are always surprised about breakage at the beginning of a dev cycle
[23:50] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:50] <IdleOne> btw this may be of interest to some in here
[23:50] <IdleOne> !poweruser
[23:51] <arand> Not really, that's why I'm being naughty and not reporting it, guessing that it will just fix itself with more syncing or sommat..
[23:52] <IdleOne> !no poweruser is <reply> If you are interested in helping the Ubuntu Power User community or want more information / join #ubuntu-power-users Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerUsers
[23:52] <IdleOne> err
[23:52] <IdleOne> !no poweruser is <reply> If you are interested in helping the Ubuntu Power User community or want more information /join #ubuntu-power-users Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerUsers
[23:52] <mdel> anyone know the proper PPA for freenx on natty?
[23:52] <IdleOne> not sure there is one
[23:53] <arand> freenx was going proprietary last time I heard about it..
[23:53] <mdel> hmm.. guess I'll have to build it
[23:53] <arand> Oh, and for natty you want #ubuntu
[23:53] <mdel> arand: yes, i know
[23:53] <mdel> this applies to +1 as well, as I'm trying to find the same for ocelot
[23:54] <IdleOne> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/posts/freenx-server-is-dead-vive-neatx-server
[23:54] <BUGabundo> wut?
[23:54] <IdleOne> that says maverick but you can check the PPA and see if they have 11.10 packages