[00:01] night [00:01] is 11.10 not LTS? [00:01] I thought it was . [00:01] nope [00:01] 12.04 will be [00:01] Ah [00:01] 8.04, 10.04, 12.04 [00:02] not there's an hard rule for it [00:03] but i wonder how much behind they will be in systemd and stuff since the incoming "threat" of stableizing until 12.04 is to be attacked [00:03] guess until 12.10 the releases will remain rather boring... [00:06] Heh, Natty wasn't enough for you?' [00:07] i like natty [00:08] natty is old [00:08] I used it 6 months ago [00:08] so did i [00:08] and it didnt change much^^ === TerminX_ is now known as TerminX [01:48] nite === rcmaehl is now known as rcmaehl2 === rcmaehl2 is now known as rcmaehl [02:37] Is there a way to download a daily/nightly build of ocelet? im fine with breakage [02:42] n0yd: try testdrive [02:43] ie. testing in a vm? [02:43] n0yd: yes, but testdrive can rsync the latest ISO [02:43] id really prefer a striaght iso... [02:44] oh ok [02:44] i just fine it odd its nit available anywhere [02:44] n0yd: you don't have to run it in the VM if you don't want to [02:44] n0yd: oh, hmm, I guess there are no images yet [02:44] i know its knew and plenty of breakage occurs, but still [02:44] new* [02:49] Anyone know if wubi keeps the iso it downloaded via torrent for sebsequent installs? [03:04] n0yd: daily images haven't been built yet, things are still in very early transition [03:56] hey hows everyone doing today [03:57] when will the 11.11 or 10.11 going to start testing ? [03:58] !schedule [03:58] A schedule of Oneiric Ocelot (11.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule [03:58] whats the new verison going to have? [03:59] anyone?> [03:59] not sure [03:59] it isn't even alpha yet [04:00] i do not like the unity thing [04:00] i know lol but what are they planning on implementing [04:00] me either thats why i use classic [04:01] i personally like classic better. it screws with my graphics card [04:02] i mean unity screws with my graphics card [04:02] make it look more like mac i know some people will not like it but is easy to use like ubuntu is easy to use for most first timers [04:02] you mean make ubuntu look more like a mac? [04:02] if I wanted to use OSX I would buy it [04:02] in a way yes [04:02] make it look like Ubuntu [04:03] lol i tried to dual bot osx lion it didnt work out as planned lol [04:03] i know [04:04] i like osx i just wish there way a cheaper why to buy a mac [04:04] for the price of a mac i can buy al most two computers [04:04] i know lol. it messed up. they are more exclusive too. more support as well [04:05] another question if you may help is i have a picture with the word proof on it like to edit it out what the the best way to do that? [04:05] gimp lol [04:06] any other ? [04:06] uhm not to sure you could try paint shop pro using wine other than that im not sure. [04:07] i havent used ubuntu much lol i had to switch back because of a tracking bug on my laptop haha [04:08] i only useing ubuntu due to a bad sector on hard drive linux or ubuntu know how to handel them better [04:09] i like ubuntu alot because if somethings wrong its easier to fix it than windows lol. windows is too locked down for my liking [04:10] cant you fix the bad sector tho with a repair disk? or hirens boot cd? [04:12] well at the time i think i refomat the hadr drive 1 windows 7 2 ubuntu 3 windows 7 4 ubuntu so 4 times ever time i went back to windows 7 xp it run for about a month then i get errors [04:13] there are serious focus issues with firefox with these gnome3 updates [04:13] lol sounds about what i do lol i do mine on purpose tho i get tired of one and i switch to the other lol [04:15] so now i on ubuntu to i get one new hadr drive or new computer [04:15] hard [04:15] lol that sucks [04:18] well i am looking and wating for the new AMD X8 [04:19] so i will jump from what i have to a X8 a huge junp [04:20] i cant to get my deam computer under 1000 no matter what i do if i buy the part i not sure how to put the motherboard in the caes or the CPU on the monther board so that will cost me money [04:22] what do you think of no OPEN OFFICE ? [04:22] the new one for me takes longer to load [04:34] i have a question login screen settings wont unlock when i press the unlock button [05:11] hey i have a problem i tried to uninstall KDE and it screwed up bad lol now it wont boot to the log in screen it hangs [05:12] how can i fix my boot up files? [05:15] anyone? [05:20] knightautwell: go to #kubuntu , they should know ;) [05:21] why kubuntu? [05:24] knightautwell: kubuntu is the kde flavor of ubuntu :/ [05:25] hey whats your take on gnome 3? [06:42] First, I want to thank you guys for everything you do. Where can I find a discussions and/or collated list of intended changes for Oneiric Ocelot? [06:43] litropy, some major blogs covering UDS [06:43] s/find a/find [06:43] bazhang, thanks. searching ... [06:43] litropy, I saw at webupd8 [07:08] anyone know where i can get a daily build of 11.10? if there is one? [07:17] I see that alpha1 comes out june 2nd [07:20] can't find any === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:49] who's bright idea was it to get rid of the classic GNOME interface for 11.10? [09:50] Shuttleworth, I presume [09:50] gnome developers' [09:50] there is no "classic" gnome in gnome3 anyway. [09:52] was 11.10 the new LTS again [09:52] no 12.04 is the new LTS, I think [09:52] good. there's just too much new stuff flying around to make it LTS [09:53] I still like GNOME 3's interface much more than Unity, looking at the screenshots [09:53] don't judge the book by its cover. [09:54] it's nice but, at least for now, less polished than unity [09:54] though in honesty... I still prefer GNOME 2 to either [09:56] luckily there's XFCE. I heard quite a lot GNOME developers defected to that project [09:58] XFCE does look interesting, and it looks like they borrowed a lot from GNOME [10:01] looks like I am sticking to 11.04 for a while then [10:02] or maybe someone will make a GNOME variant of Ubuntu a la Kubuntu, Xubuntu et al [10:13] * tsimpson would say "GNOME variant of Ubuntu is Ubuntu", but people are all like "OMG CHANGE!! I HATEZ CHANGE!!!" [10:18] I still think Unity is a terrible idea. nothing wrong with change, but GNOME3 is much better thought out entity, has more developers & distros backing it and has fewer dependencies. [10:20] OMG!! CHANGE, IT BURNS!! [10:21] well, name one thing that's better in Unity than in GNOME3 [10:22] I haven't tried GNOME3 yet, so anything I say would be baseless [11:43] daedaluz, nautilus, because i'd rather look for the executable and click it than use unity [11:44] though, it's the best solution for tablets [11:58] does the gnome3 panel support app indicators? [11:58] I use xmonad and gnome, so unity is out of the question for me, but I'm pretty fond of app indicators (including appmenu) [15:24] ok, what the heck is broken that gimp, eye of gnome and even ristretto is broken [15:25] gimp can still load images but whines about unsupported type png, eog just fails to open and ristretto says "loading" but does not show anything [15:25] some common component is missing [15:28] is it gtk that is borked [15:38] hifi: Works for me on uity2d, before opening the floodgates of recent updates.. [15:38] (gpicview:32532): Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading icon from file '/usr/share/pixmaps/gpicview.png': [15:38] Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/pixmaps/gpicview.png' [15:38] /usr/share/pixmaps/gpicview.png: PNG image data, 48 x 48, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced [15:38] it has lost all image formats except jpg [15:39] some recent update broke it [15:39] during this week [15:39] this is starting to get a bit annoying, would like to find out what it was... [15:42] right, reinstalling libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 fixed it [15:42] back to business [16:33] hmm, eog and co. still works, though the upgrade borked gtk theme engine for me :) [16:34] !partial [16:34] Partial upgrades during the develpment cycle, or excessive removals are often due to repository inconsistencies, the best fix is often to simply wait. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751299 for more info. === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [17:07] In Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.10 the Workspace Switcher was much more awesome than in Unity 11.04. It "ordered" all hidden the windows. Can't Unity do that ? Will it be planned to 11.10 ? [17:07] * the hidden === _o_portista17 is now known as o_portista17 === _o_portista17 is now known as iPoRn === iPoRn is now known as o_portista17 === funnylookinhat is now known as FunnyLookinHat [19:33] anyone know if libgvfscommon0 is safe to remove? [19:33] * gnomefreak not seeing a problem with removing it [19:37] also what do i need to do to read an .azw? === braiam is now known as Exio- === Exio- is now known as Braiam === Braiam is now known as Exio- === Guest95889 is now known as Braiam [22:41] pleeease make ubuntu boot look niceeeee with all video cards!... go back to usplash if its neccesary! [23:25] so who broke metacity? [23:25] as if compiz wasn't bad enough already [23:25] did we drop the entire WM now? [23:33] * charlie-tca thinks it might be the latest in improvements [23:35] charlie-tca: no WM is NOT an improvement [23:35] heh [23:35] I have a BIG blue "desktop" that I can't click [23:35] even if my soccer club is blue and won't the europe championchio yesterday [23:35] its not fun to see that much blue [23:35] plues no composite [23:36] and very ugly GTK unthemed [23:36] BUGabundo: have you tried ubuntu classic (no effects)? [23:36] tried to reload metacity and load compiz [23:36] no luch [23:36] it just kills the terminal [23:36] IdleOne: I'm on classic [23:36] since for ever [23:45] Yea, I got no gtk theme engine as well, though the unity2d stuff around it seems to still be working a-ok [23:46] arand: so anything posted to LP? [23:47] or is it a feature? [23:47] I think it's in the feature stage yet, did a quick search.. [23:49] and updates are getting slower and slower [23:49] it's funny how people are always surprised about breakage at the beginning of a dev cycle [23:50] eheh [23:50] btw this may be of interest to some in here [23:50] !poweruser [23:50] If you are interested in helping the Ubuntu Power User community or want more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerUsers [23:51] Not really, that's why I'm being naughty and not reporting it, guessing that it will just fix itself with more syncing or sommat.. [23:52] !no poweruser is If you are interested in helping the Ubuntu Power User community or want more information / join #ubuntu-power-users Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerUsers [23:52] I'll remember that IdleOne [23:52] err [23:52] !no poweruser is If you are interested in helping the Ubuntu Power User community or want more information /join #ubuntu-power-users Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerUsers [23:52] anyone know the proper PPA for freenx on natty? [23:52] not sure there is one [23:53] freenx was going proprietary last time I heard about it.. [23:53] hmm.. guess I'll have to build it [23:53] Oh, and for natty you want #ubuntu [23:53] arand: yes, i know [23:53] this applies to +1 as well, as I'm trying to find the same for ocelot [23:54] http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/posts/freenx-server-is-dead-vive-neatx-server [23:54] wut? [23:54] that says maverick but you can check the PPA and see if they have 11.10 packages