| ScottK | tim: You're probably better off installing Debian. | 04:28 |
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| tim | i agree | 04:31 |
| tim | when i installed ubuntu many moons ago, it was because the installer had the firmware bundled with it, whereas debian needed the ethernet firmware | 04:31 |
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| dcarr_home | rsalveti: ping | 06:36 |
| dcarr_home | Does anyone here know which tool chain I should be using to cross compile for the Ubuntu 11.04 ARM build? | 06:38 |
| dcarr_home | I am not having a merry old time with the standard code sourcery toolchains I use for all my other targets; I get of host of undefined symbols | 06:38 |
| dcarr_home | Does anyone know why there are spans of libraries inside of a arm-linux-gnueabi folder inside of /usr/lib | 06:57 |
| dcarr_home | I have never seen this convention used before; not even in the Ubuntu 10.10 image I ran on the panda board | 06:57 |
| dcarr_home | Again, any insight would be appreciated as this kind of info makes for labourious googling | 06:58 |
| * dcarr_home will barter Qt knowledge for insight into the mores of Ubuntu cross compilaiton | 06:58 | |
| dcarr_home | anyone willing/able to lend a hand with a linking issue? | 08:02 |
| ppisati | rsalveti: it seems i was using an x-loader from a bete image | 08:11 |
| ppisati | rsalveti: i'll check later | 08:11 |
| ndec | rsalveti: hi | 08:20 |
| ndec | rsalveti: i have been told that glmark-es crashes X on 11.04 (during the shader tests). are you aware of this? | 08:21 |
| dcarr_home | rsalveti: ping | 08:49 |
| amitk | ogra_: know about http://trimslice.com/web/ ? It seems to have native sata | 09:13 |
| dcarr_home | Would people expect the -B <dir> argument supplied to a cross compiler to adequate adjust the search dirs to successfully cross compile for ubuntu targets? | 09:31 |
| dcarr_home | I am trying to use a standard code sourcery compiler, is this stupid of me? | 09:31 |
| dcarr_home | is there any way to make it work? | 09:31 |
| dcarr_home | Again, any help would be greatly appreciated | 09:31 |
| ogra_ | dcarr_home, seen the topic ? there is a link about cross building | 09:34 |
| ogra_ | beyond that, hrw is the cross compiler expert here in the channel | 09:34 |
| dcarr_home | ogra_: Thanks for the response. I glanced over the documentation, and it indicated how to set up an entire environment for cross compiling all of Ubuntu | 09:35 |
| hrw | dcarr_home: ok, one by one | 09:35 |
| dcarr_home | ogra_: I have your rootfs, it would be nice to use a standard code sourcery compiler | 09:36 |
| hrw | dcarr_home: 'apt-get install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi' will give you cross toolchain | 09:36 |
| hrw | gcc/g++/gfortran/gobjc/gobjc++ are available | 09:36 |
| dcarr_home | hrw: That is convenient, and it is very nice, but requires one to use Ubuntu as his primary dev machine | 09:37 |
| hrw | dcarr_home: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/ on arm board is result of multiarch which allows to install more then one arch libs on system | 09:37 |
| * dcarr_home is a Troll (Trolltech residue) | 09:37 | |
| hrw | dcarr_home: I will work on providing our toolchain for other linux systems and then also for windows | 09:37 |
| hrw | dcarr_home: so @nokia or not anymore? | 09:37 |
| dcarr_home | hrw: I was surprised that I could not simply adjust the search dirs to handle the additional arm-linux-gnueabi | 09:38 |
| dcarr_home | hrw: Still at Nokia | 09:38 |
| dcarr_home | hrw: We tend to stick | 09:38 |
| dcarr_home | hrw: I am failing with this: | 09:39 |
| dcarr_home | /opt/toolchains/arm-2011.03-41-arm-none-linux-gnueabi/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-g++ --sysroot=/opt/rootfs/ti/omap4/ubuntu11.04 -B /opt/rootfs/ti/omap4/ubuntu11.04/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi -B /opt/rootfs/ti/omap4/ubuntu11.04/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi foo | 09:39 |
| dcarr_home | hrw: I am a little unsettled as our resident guru indicated I should compile g++ myself using your arguments | 09:40 |
| dcarr_home | as if it were impossible to override the necessary configure time options at runtime | 09:40 |
| hrw | looks like multiarch change broke some external toolchains | 09:41 |
| * dcarr_home is surprised g++ would lack provisions for runtime configuration. (qmake hardcoding always seemed evil) | 09:41 | |
| dcarr_home | hrw: Thanks for the answers | 09:42 |
| dcarr_home | I will install it on a local box | 09:42 |
| dcarr_home | and swipe it across to my arch machine | 09:42 |
| * dcarr_home wants to demo his Panda board at Meego Conf | 09:43 | |
| dcarr_home | The 11.04 build looks pretty damn nice on first inspection | 09:44 |
| ogra_ | well, the SD card slowness bites a bit during demos | 09:44 |
| dcarr_home | ogra_: I can believe it | 09:45 |
| dcarr_home | ogra_: The Intel targets I get tend to ship with full sata drives for this very reason | 09:45 |
| ogra_ | if you really want to demo, i would actually recommend to find a fast usb key, format that and copy the second SD partition onto it | 09:45 |
| ogra_ | (after running the complete install on the sd indeed) | 09:46 |
| dcarr_home | ogra_: Thanks, that is what we do in general although I have not done so on the Panda to date | 09:46 |
| ogra_ | you will need to edit root= in /boot/boot.script and run sudo flash-kernel to have the system pick up the change | 09:47 |
| ogra_ | .oO( why dont we have a wikipage for that ) | 09:47 |
| dcarr_home | ogra_: You dudes have ample wiki pages :) | 09:48 |
| dcarr_home | wiki is where information goes to perish | 09:48 |
| ogra_ | well, its still easier to point to a wikipage than having to type the above every time :) | 09:49 |
| ogra_ | as long as i know the page is correct at least | 09:50 |
| dcarr_home | ogra_: If it makes you feel any better, people keep on being bitten by Qt's default options | 09:50 |
| dcarr_home | Especially companies from a historically non-Linux background | 09:51 |
| dcarr_home | People keep on being hit by the same damn issues | 09:51 |
| dcarr_home | ogra_: So our documentation of best practises also clearly bites | 09:51 |
| ogra_ | or its hidden to well :) | 09:52 |
| ogra_ | (ours clearly is) | 09:53 |
| dcarr_home | sudo debootstrap --arch amd64 natty . http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 10:05 |
| dcarr_home | yum | 10:05 |
| rsalveti | morning | 12:17 |
| rsalveti | ndec: yup, that's exactly what I'm currently debugging | 12:18 |
| ndec | rsalveti: ah... so you knew about this... | 12:19 |
| ndec | cool | 12:19 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: any idea when we'll get a fix for bug 746023? | 14:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 746023 in alsa-utils "No sound on omap4" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746023 | 14:14 |
| rsalveti | don't know if you're still planning to fix it | 14:14 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: asking again, any idea when we'll get a fix for bug 746023? | 15:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 746023 in alsa-utils "No sound on omap4" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746023 | 15:33 |
| rsalveti | or if you're still planning to work on it | 15:33 |
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| ogra_ | rsalveti, well, feel free to grab it if you have a quick fix, else, yes, i will try to fix it | 15:59 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: ok, just wanted to know if it was at your todo list :-) | 16:01 |
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| innovacion | Hi, boys I wish to know if it is possible install Ubuntu 10.04 in ARM Cortex iMX515 | 21:45 |
| innovacion | Hi, boys I wish to know if it is possible install Ubuntu 10.04 in ARM Cortex iMX515? | 21:45 |
| steev | innovacion: yes, as long as you have a kernel for it | 21:45 |
| GrueMaster | 10.04 was lucid, so yes. | 21:46 |
| GrueMaster | We supported lucid on the babbage3 (imx51). | 21:46 |
| persia | Well, the 10.04 kernel for i.MX51 was kinda specific to a certain board: it may need some hackery to run on other boards. | 21:46 |
| innovacion | Do you know something link guide? wiki ? | 21:49 |
| persia | innovacion, How does your device boot? | 21:50 |
| persia | If you can boot from SD *AND* your device is sufficiently supported by the kernel used for the Babbage reference board (I believe it was TO3), you can try the image at http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ | 21:52 |
| innovacion | Jejeje ;), I am thinking to buy tablet PC, with ARM Cortex 8, 1 GHz, 512 MB ram. | 21:52 |
| persia | Ah, OK. That's *completely* different. | 21:52 |
| innovacion | But I don't like android, I wish install ubuntu or debian. | 21:53 |
| persia | We don't currently have any decent guides for installing Ubuntu on ${RETAIL_DEVICE}. | 21:53 |
| persia | Generally folk rely on the user communities for their device, and then semi-manually inject Ubuntu onto the target. | 21:54 |
| innovacion | Yes, I used google in spanish an english and i don't find nothing good | 21:55 |
| persia | The main issue is that, for the most part, each and every device has a different process by which one needs to do an install. | 21:55 |
| persia | And it can be even more complicated, because many devices are not designed to boot from alternate media to install, so one needs to follow a wide variety of "restore" procedures, with device-specific hackery along the way. | 21:56 |
| persia | I would suggest *against* trying to run 10.04 on any retail tablet. If you're willing to run 11.04 or newer (depending on when you get the tablet), your chances are substantially increased. | 21:57 |
| persia | In this case, I'd recommend picking a tablet where the community around that tablet has already established what needs to be done to perform the install. | 21:57 |
| persia | (and eventually we'll get documentation, but the documentation for Ubuntu on the N900 is still *very* rough, and people have been installing alternate environments on that since it was released) | 21:58 |
| innovacion | Ok, the ubuntu version can be 11.04 or 10.10 or debian, the most important is that I can install it linux ".debs" | 21:59 |
| persia | You very much can do this. | 21:59 |
| persia | Precisely how you do this depends entirely on the device (not the SoC, but the specific device) | 21:59 |
| innovacion | Ok, So then should be I to try with several ubuntu or kernels versions ? | 22:03 |
| persia | Check the user community for your device. | 22:03 |
| GrueMaster | innovacion: Do you already have this device? | 22:04 |
| persia | See if someone else has done an install on the device. | 22:04 |
| persia | Then follow those directions. Be aware that this may be tricky, and isn't yet entirely well supported. | 22:04 |
| persia | We can help some, but we're not yet at the point where we can confidently state that any released version of Ubuntu works properly on any retail device. | 22:04 |
| persia | (although we're *really* close for the Efika SB, the AC 100/Dynabook AZ, and the N900) | 22:06 |
| innovacion | Gure: No I don't have, I think to buy a Chinese Tablet with ARM with Cortex 8 iMX515, and Android? | 22:08 |
| innovacion | Gure: No I don't have, I think to buy a Chinese Tablet with ARM with Cortex 8 iMX515, and Android | 22:08 |
| GrueMaster | Personally I would shy away from them. I have read bad reviews (like the battery never charging and unable to boot when it goes flat). | 22:10 |
| GrueMaster | But your mileage may vary. | 22:10 |
| GrueMaster | There are a few tablets that have nVidia Tegra cpus that have been reported to work with Ubuntu (with some hacking). | 22:11 |
| GrueMaster | If you don't already have one, do some more research. Unless you really want to hack one up yourself. | 22:12 |
| innovacion | Nvidia Tegra uhmmm...., good information, I will think about it | 22:13 |
| innovacion | I am semi-noob and semi-expert linux, but so the I think that hack one Chinese tablet is all challenge | 22:15 |
| GrueMaster | Well, the software part is one thing. Having to hack the hardware just to keep it working is another. | 22:16 |
| GrueMaster | I did a little research, and came up with a nook color from barnes & noble. Only in North America unfortunately, but easily hackable. | 22:17 |
| GrueMaster | And I'm sure there are more options available to european and Asian markets. | 22:18 |
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