=== chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [04:54] hey guys === daker_ is now known as daker === daker_ is now known as daker === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [13:17] good afternoon [13:18] im trying ccs style for gtk3 i got a strange line just between menubar and toolbar can you help me please with it ? [14:48] hihi [14:48] I have a phone call at 3.30 can we make it earlier or later? === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === daker is now known as daker_ [19:34] hello [20:02] hello [20:21] just realized that ivanka isn't around so I'll probably wait till tomorrow with my question [20:27] what horrible deed, now nobody here will be able to sleep, not knowing what the question may be!! [20:28] ah oh,, what did I miss? [20:28] * coz_ looks at scrollback [20:29] gah no scrollback [20:29] evil isn't it? :D [20:30] for sure [20:30] the question is about the animal logos on the t-shirts [20:30] mainerror, ubuntu t-shirts? [20:30] yes [20:30] is there a special reason that they are not available in the design toolkit? [20:31] mm let me take alook online [20:32] I could butt kick myself because I forgot to ask that at the UDS ... [20:32] mainerror, its not on the store yet? [20:32] or is it the narwhol tail t-shirt? [20:33] oh no I mean why the logos are not available as SVG [20:33] mainerror, oh!! double oh! most definitly should be in svg [20:36] mainerror, how was UDS? I just watched shuttleworth's opening comments [20:37] it was awesome to get to know the people behind Ubuntu :) [20:38] in fact it was so awesome that I've decided to get to the next UDS too [20:39] mainerror, cool,, out of curiosity,, how much was the trip overall? I mean cost [20:40] approximately 350€ from Monday till Friday for two persons, my dad wanted to attend it too :) [20:40] mainerror, excellent,, your dad? that's cool :) he enjoyed it as well ...yes? [20:41] yup :) [20:41] very cool [20:42] http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Oneiric/i-5HhCFBS/0/XL/20110510-184228-UDSOneiric-XL.jpg [20:42] theres Jorge and me :) [20:44] very cool [20:44] mainerror, the developers had orange ribbons? [20:45] you mean those name badges? [20:45] yeah [20:45] no, everyone got them :) [20:46] mainerror, but I noticed the ribbon around the necks,, [20:47] mainerror, also how was Budapest ? :) [20:47] oh the lanyard you mean, nah that was pretty random, one got a Linaro lanyard (the one I have) and other got the Ubuntu lanyard [20:47] mainerror, ah I see [20:48] Budapest was great, a beautiful city! [20:48] mainerror, excellent,, I am jealous :) [20:48] thorwil, what question is that? [20:49] coz_: mainerror already told you ;) [20:49] oh [20:49] sorry [20:50] its going to be one of those days,,, I read and then woosh,, its gone :) [21:14] mainerror: the animal logos on the t-shirt are not a "design guideline" hence probably not part of the toolkit, you could request the design team to release those if you are interested in doing other stuff with it.. [21:16] alright, thanks vish. I was already thinking something like that :) [21:16] mainerror: you could poke ivanka/iain for it.. but i guess iain is better with those sutff [21:16] stuff* [21:16] ivanka probably already has a load of wrangling.. [21:17] ok, I'll do that then :) [21:17] zniavre: i'm pretty sure, not many here know about the gtk3 theming :) dashua might start working on it when unico is working.. [21:18] i'd probably start looking at it too, when unico is ready.. [21:18] but its a whole new thing and might take a while before people figure it out well.. [21:19] zniavre: SeanW was one of the early folks who was theming GNOME3 , so he might know more, he usually hangs out in #gnome-shell [21:20] coz_: Budapest is a place where you might find it easier to find models for your pencil work ;) [21:20] vish, oh! I am moving today lol [21:21] vish, actually ,, I no longer do nude stuff,, it was a nice period of learning for me but frankly putting up with models is not my favorite passtime :) [21:22] actually those are the tough ones, not easy doing them [21:22] (any human forms) [21:23] vish, I think too many people think its important to be able to draw naturalistically as if it means you are not an artist,, but or course drawing a person , place or thing has absolutely nothing to do with art :) [21:25] I do agree vish, Budapest is definitely the right city to find models :D [21:25] coz_: heh, yea, artistic imagination required! ;) not every good artistic can get a human form right, nor is any person who gets the human form right a good artist ;p [21:26] err, s/any person/every person [21:26] vish, exactly,,, it is how you get the message across,, [21:26] and that also depends on the audience [21:27] mainerror, it does but a fine piece should cross backgrounds,, contries, languages [21:27] mainerror: you literally cannot walk the streets without getting solicited … even odd was that the Hotel had people coming in o.0 [21:28] vish, what? really? Thats really odd [21:29] mainerror: did you see the hotel's tour brochure? there is an add in it too! o.0 [21:29] oh well yea I've seen those yea [21:31] mainerror, I dont recall seeing you here before,, I probably just wasnt around when you were here [21:32] mainerror, however ,, you are the only one I have seen :) [21:33] * coz_ refers to the photo :) [21:34] I'm new in this channel ;) [21:34] mainerror, excellent :) [21:34] nah, the cat is out of the bag, coz_ is a creepy stalker!! [21:34] but I'm very interested in digital art, especially in 2D art [21:34] he followed you home!! look behind you ;p [21:34] :) [21:34] vish, nope only the cat :D [21:35] mainerror, well this is very very cool,, a new person,, it gets tiring hearing vish 's evil rants lol [21:35] lolz [21:35] ;) [21:36] :) [21:36] this is my gallery on deviant art it someone is interested http://odamiean.deviantart.com/gallery/ [21:36] coz_: you forgot darkmatter !! poor guy he'd pout if we dont include in our rants :p [21:36] vish, oh yes I have to apologize :) [21:37] I should probably create some Ubuntu stuff and update it [21:37] mainerror, looking now [21:37] mainerror, cool [21:37] yes, I'm quite an Android fan [21:38] correction, I was an Android fan [21:38] wuh? huh? who? o.O [21:38] darkmatter, :) hey guy [21:38] darkmatter, vish just mentioned that you are evil incarnate :) [21:39] oh yea and I did that one http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts/36648#36648 [21:39] and as for you vish: see this? oh no, wait, you can't see gestures over the internet, your loss :P [21:39] that one is at least Ubuntu related :D [21:39] darkmatter, lol [21:39] lmao!! [21:40] mainerror, oo that's interesting [21:40] mainerror, and you have the svg source ,, very excellent :) [21:41] mainerror, good idea by the way [21:41] thanks :) [21:42] mainerror, i think with 11.04's introduction to Unity ,, this is going to be needed [21:43] opening inkscape to take closer look :) [21:43] I'm planing to do something a bit more advanced though. An overlay (like the conky overlays) which gets triggered by, lets say Ctrl + H. It displays that cheat sheet. [21:43] mainerror, oo that would be real nice [21:43] that be resolution independent cause right now the solution sucks [21:44] mainerror, I wonder if it can be triggered from within compiz as well [21:45] coz_, yea beware some elements are on the wrong layers, I should fix that if I find the time [21:45] mainerror, ok lookin carefully :) [22:07] mainerror, out of curiosity, how were you planning to create an overlay for this? via xcompozitereleaseoverlaywindow? [22:08] honestly I have no idea, I've never done something like that before :) [22:09] mainerror, oh , I have been doing a bit of research on this since you mentioned it,, I think I need to re word the search string,, but I did come across this http://linux.die.net/man/3/xcompositereleaseoverlaywindow [22:11] hmm, looks interesting [22:12] mainerror, I am also asking sam if we can create a overlay plugin for any type of image,,, should be easy with compiz [22:14] mainerror, although it would be nicer to have this on the system with or without compiz [22:15] the only question is, does it make sense without compiz? I mean Unity depends on compiz [22:15] mainerror, that is a good point [22:16] mainerror, well I will see what he says,, it should be no issue as a compiz plugin [22:16] sounds great, thanks! [22:16] mainerror, well the only thing I was thinking is Unity 2d or at least on 11.04 classic ( no effects) people using either of those would be left out of the overlay [22:17] true [22:24] ok I'm absolutely confused by the brand communication guideline, which dot pattern do I have to use for community stuff now? [22:25] mainerror, I am just as confused,, [22:29] judging by the name none at all. one is called the developer dots and the other one is called the enterprise dots [22:31] mainerror, where are you looking? [22:31] dot patterns and usage [22:32] thanks [22:43] I'm off to bed, catch ya tomorrow