[04:54] <coz_> hey guys
[13:17] <zniavre> good afternoon
[13:18] <zniavre> im trying ccs style for gtk3 i got a strange line just between menubar and toolbar can you help me please with it ?
[14:48] <marcushaslam> hihi
[14:48] <marcushaslam> I have a phone call at 3.30 can we make it earlier or later?
[19:34] <mainerror> hello
[20:02] <doctormo> hello
[20:21] <mainerror> just realized that ivanka isn't around so I'll probably wait till tomorrow with my question
[20:27] <thorwil> what horrible deed, now nobody here will be able to sleep, not knowing what the question may be!!
[20:28] <coz_> ah oh,, what did I miss?
[20:28]  * coz_ looks at scrollback
[20:29] <coz_> gah no scrollback
[20:29] <mainerror> evil isn't it? :D
[20:30] <coz_> for sure
[20:30] <mainerror> the question is about the animal logos on the t-shirts
[20:30] <coz_> mainerror,  ubuntu t-shirts?
[20:30] <mainerror> yes
[20:30] <mainerror> is there a special reason that they are not available in the design toolkit?
[20:31] <coz_> mm let me take alook online
[20:32] <mainerror> I could butt kick myself because I forgot to ask that at the UDS ...
[20:32] <coz_> mainerror,  its not on the store yet?
[20:32] <coz_> or is it the narwhol tail t-shirt?
[20:33] <mainerror> oh no I mean why the logos are not available as SVG
[20:33] <coz_> mainerror,  oh!! double oh!  most definitly should be in svg
[20:36] <coz_> mainerror,  how was UDS?  I just watched shuttleworth's  opening comments
[20:37] <mainerror> it was awesome to get to know the people behind Ubuntu :)
[20:38] <mainerror> in fact it was so awesome that I've decided to get to the next UDS too
[20:39] <coz_> mainerror,  cool,, out of curiosity,, how much was the trip overall?  I mean cost
[20:40] <mainerror> approximately 350€ from Monday till Friday for two persons, my dad wanted to attend it too :)
[20:40] <coz_> mainerror,  excellent,, your dad?  that's cool :)  he enjoyed it as well ...yes?
[20:41] <mainerror> yup :)
[20:41] <coz_> very cool
[20:42] <mainerror> http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Oneiric/i-5HhCFBS/0/XL/20110510-184228-UDSOneiric-XL.jpg
[20:42] <mainerror> theres Jorge and me :)
[20:44] <coz_> very cool
[20:44] <coz_> mainerror,  the developers had orange ribbons?
[20:45] <mainerror> you mean those name badges?
[20:45] <coz_> yeah
[20:45] <mainerror> no, everyone got them :)
[20:46] <coz_> mainerror,  but I noticed the ribbon around the necks,,
[20:47] <coz_> mainerror,  also how was Budapest ?  :)
[20:47] <mainerror> oh the lanyard you mean, nah that was pretty random, one got a Linaro lanyard (the one I have) and other got the Ubuntu lanyard
[20:47] <coz_> mainerror,  ah I see
[20:48] <mainerror> Budapest was great, a beautiful city!
[20:48] <coz_> mainerror,  excellent,, I am jealous :)
[20:48] <coz_> thorwil,  what question is that?
[20:49] <thorwil> coz_: mainerror already told you ;)
[20:49] <coz_> oh
[20:49] <coz_> sorry
[20:50] <coz_> its going to be one of those days,,, I read and then  woosh,, its gone :)
[21:14] <vish> mainerror: the animal logos on the t-shirt are not a "design guideline" hence probably not part of the toolkit, you could request the design team to release those if you are interested in doing other stuff with it..
[21:16] <mainerror> alright, thanks vish. I was already thinking something like that :)
[21:16] <vish> mainerror: you could poke ivanka/iain for it.. but i guess iain is better with those sutff
[21:16] <vish> stuff*
[21:16] <vish> ivanka probably already has a load of wrangling..
[21:17] <mainerror> ok, I'll do that then :)
[21:17] <vish> zniavre: i'm pretty sure, not many here know about the gtk3 theming :)  dashua might start working on it when unico is working..
[21:18] <vish> i'd probably start looking at it too, when unico is ready..
[21:18] <vish> but its a whole new thing and might take a while before people figure it out well..
[21:19] <vish> zniavre: SeanW was one of the early folks who was theming GNOME3 , so he might know more, he usually hangs out in #gnome-shell
[21:20] <vish> coz_: Budapest is a place where you might find it easier to find models for your pencil work ;)
[21:20] <coz_> vish,  oh!  I am moving today  lol
[21:21] <coz_> vish,  actually ,, I no longer do nude stuff,, it was a nice period of learning for me  but frankly putting up with models is not my favorite passtime :)
[21:22] <vish> actually those are the tough ones, not easy doing them
[21:22] <vish> (any human forms)
[21:23] <coz_> vish,  I think too many people think its important to be able to draw naturalistically as if it means you are not an artist,, but or course drawing    a person  , place or thing has absolutely nothing to do with art :)
[21:25] <mainerror> I do agree vish, Budapest is definitely the right city to find models :D
[21:25] <vish> coz_: heh, yea, artistic imagination required! ;)  not every good artistic can get a human form right, nor is any person who gets the human form right a good artist ;p
[21:26] <vish> err, s/any person/every person
[21:26] <coz_> vish,  exactly,,, it is how you get the message across,,
[21:26] <mainerror> and that also depends on the audience
[21:27] <coz_> mainerror,  it does but a fine piece should cross backgrounds,, contries, languages
[21:27] <vish> mainerror: you literally cannot walk the streets without getting solicited … even odd was that the Hotel had people coming in o.0
[21:28] <mainerror> vish, what? really? Thats really odd
[21:29] <vish> mainerror: did you see the hotel's tour brochure? there is an add in it too! o.0
[21:29] <mainerror> oh well yea I've seen those yea
[21:31] <coz_> mainerror,  I dont recall seeing you here before,, I probably just wasnt around when you were here
[21:32] <coz_> mainerror,  however ,, you are the only one  I have seen :)
[21:33]  * coz_ refers to the photo :)
[21:34] <mainerror> I'm new in this channel ;)
[21:34] <coz_> mainerror,  excellent :)
[21:34] <vish> nah, the cat is out of the bag, coz_ is a creepy stalker!!
[21:34] <mainerror> but I'm very interested in digital art, especially in 2D art
[21:34] <vish> he followed you home!!  look behind you ;p
[21:34] <coz_> :)
[21:34] <mainerror> vish, nope only the cat :D
[21:35] <coz_> mainerror,  well this is very very cool,, a new person,, it gets tiring hearing vish 's  evil rants lol
[21:35] <mainerror> lolz
[21:35] <vish> ;)
[21:36] <coz_> :)
[21:36] <mainerror> this is my gallery on deviant art it someone is interested http://odamiean.deviantart.com/gallery/
[21:36] <vish> coz_: you forgot darkmatter !! poor guy he'd pout if we dont include in our rants :p
[21:36] <coz_> vish,  oh yes  I have to apologize :)
[21:37] <mainerror> I should probably create some Ubuntu stuff and update it
[21:37] <coz_> mainerror,  looking now
[21:37] <coz_> mainerror,  cool
[21:37] <mainerror> yes, I'm quite an Android fan
[21:38] <mainerror> correction, I was an Android fan
[21:38] <darkmatter> wuh? huh? who? o.O
[21:38] <coz_> darkmatter,  :) hey guy
[21:38] <coz_> darkmatter,  vish  just mentioned that you are evil incarnate :)
[21:39] <mainerror> oh yea and I did that one http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts/36648#36648
[21:39] <darkmatter> and as for you vish: see this? oh no, wait, you can't see gestures over the internet, your loss :P
[21:39] <mainerror> that one is at least Ubuntu related :D
[21:39] <coz_> darkmatter,  lol
[21:39] <vish> lmao!!
[21:40] <coz_> mainerror,  oo that's interesting
[21:40] <coz_> mainerror,  and you have the svg source ,, very excellent :)
[21:41] <coz_> mainerror,   good idea by the way
[21:41] <mainerror> thanks :)
[21:42] <coz_> mainerror,  i think with 11.04's  introduction to Unity ,, this is going to be needed
[21:43] <coz_> opening inkscape to take closer look :)
[21:43] <mainerror> I'm planing to do something a bit more advanced though. An overlay (like the conky overlays) which gets triggered by, lets say Ctrl + H. It displays that cheat sheet.
[21:43] <coz_> mainerror,  oo that would be real nice
[21:43] <mainerror> that be resolution independent cause right now the solution sucks
[21:44] <coz_> mainerror,  I wonder if it can be triggered from within compiz as well
[21:45] <mainerror> coz_, yea beware some elements are on the wrong layers, I should fix that if I find the time
[21:45] <coz_> mainerror, ok lookin carefully :)
[22:07] <coz_> mainerror,  out of curiosity, how were you planning to create an overlay for this?  via xcompozitereleaseoverlaywindow?
[22:08] <mainerror> honestly I have no idea, I've never done something like that before :)
[22:09] <coz_> mainerror,  oh  , I have been doing a bit of research on this since you mentioned it,, I think I need to re word the search string,, but I did come across this    http://linux.die.net/man/3/xcompositereleaseoverlaywindow
[22:11] <mainerror> hmm, looks interesting
[22:12] <coz_> mainerror,  I am also asking sam  if we can create a overlay plugin for any type of image,,,  should be easy with compiz
[22:14] <coz_> mainerror,  although it would be nicer to have this on the system with or without compiz
[22:15] <mainerror> the only question is, does it make sense without compiz? I mean Unity depends on compiz
[22:15] <coz_> mainerror,  that is a good point
[22:16] <coz_> mainerror,  well I will see what he says,, it should be no issue as a compiz plugin
[22:16] <mainerror> sounds great, thanks!
[22:16] <coz_> mainerror,  well the only thing I was thinking is  Unity 2d  or at least on 11.04  classic ( no effects)  people using either of those would be left out of the overlay
[22:17] <mainerror> true
[22:24] <mainerror> ok I'm absolutely confused by the brand communication guideline, which dot pattern do I have to use for community stuff now?
[22:25] <coz_> mainerror,  I am just as confused,,
[22:29] <mainerror> judging by the name none at all. one is called the developer dots and the other one is called the enterprise dots
[22:31] <coz_> mainerror,  where are you looking?
[22:31] <mainerror> dot patterns and usage
[22:32] <coz_> thanks
[22:43] <mainerror> I'm off to bed, catch ya tomorrow