[00:07] <vish> Technoviking: there was actually a discussion about adding a capplet to Control Centre(system settings), with just the Unity plugin options
[00:07] <jcastro> hahaha
[00:07] <jcastro> too bad we can't add things to the control center anymore. :p
[00:08] <vish> yea, that was part of the reason why they wanted to have a public api
[00:09] <jcastro> seriously someone should just fix simple-ccsm
[00:10] <vish> they dint want simple-ccsm either,  didrocks knows more about that
[00:11] <vish> upstream (rodrigo,desrt) did seem to agree to let distros have the option to set whitelists for which ones can appear there, else it would probably be hacked in Ubuntu , we atleast need to get a few of our settings in there
[00:11] <jcastro> well I just mean about having a config tool for it
[00:13] <vish> yea, they dismissed that, since that would be a shot-term fix. Eventually Unity options *are* system settings and Ideally we need to have them in one place
[00:13] <vish> short*
[00:14] <vish> would be odd in GNOME3 when everything else is in the control center when the Unity options alone need a separate tool
[00:19] <jono> alright folks
[00:20] <jono> Ubuntu Power Users mailing list - https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-power-users
[00:21] <popey> ooooooh
[00:21] <popey> mister jono and his ability to get mailing lists created at the click of his fingers
[00:21] <jono> ;-)
[00:21] <jono> I think it would be awesome to see a community form around delivering the needs of power users
[00:22] <jono> such as the ideas I outlined in my blog entry
[00:22] <jono> would be cool to have a range of kitchen-sink configuration packages (e.g. ubuntu-configuration-desktop or something)
[00:23] <jcastro> jono: you made the mistake of publishing the list in front of popey
[00:24] <jcastro> now it will get shut down!
[00:24] <jono> hah
[00:24] <jono> lol
[00:24] <jono> wapaa!
[00:24] <popey> far from it
[00:26] <popey> GNNNNNNNN @ ubuntu-users
[00:26] <popey> this guy keeps subscribing under different addresses
[00:26] <popey> posting utter shite
[00:27] <jcastro> popey: how did that bikeshed list end up?
[00:27] <popey> 40 members
[00:28] <popey> compare with 4970 on -users
[00:31] <jcastro> I don't really need a config tool
[00:31] <jcastro> I need 32px launcher by default and backlight set to toggle.
[00:31] <jcastro> that would make me happy
[00:51] <highvoltage> heh, I think I heard jcastro say that like, 30 times at UDS :)
[00:51] <highvoltage> (well, at least the 32px part)
[01:07] <jcastro> highvoltage: it's called "default by insurgency"
[01:28] <mhall119> jcastro: submit a patch :P
[01:44] <mhall119> am I the only one who sees an irony in trying to make Ubuntu easier for power users?
[01:46] <IdleOne> easier how?
[01:47] <mhall119> jono gave an example of making an ubuntu-expert-desktop package to automatically install all the necessary customization apps
[01:48] <IdleOne> if anything it would be a time saver
[01:49] <IdleOne> will it remove Unity ? :)
[01:49] <mhall119> but it all seems based on the notion that "It's too complicated for power users, we need to make it simpler"
[01:50] <mhall119> IMO, if they don't know where to find the customization apps and settings, why are we calling them power users?
[01:50] <IdleOne> too complicated sounds like the opposite of what a power user would think
[01:50] <IdleOne> I guess it depends on ones definition of power user
[01:51] <mhall119> I guess
[01:51] <IdleOne> but I think simplifying common repetitive tasks is not a bad idea
[01:51] <mhall119> I'm good with that
[01:51] <mhall119> I like meta packages
[01:52] <mhall119> I just don't see a power user being blocked for lack of one
[01:53] <IdleOne> maybe call it ubuntu-semi-expert-desktop
[01:54] <IdleOne> for those who want to move up the ladder
[01:54] <mhall119> on the other hand, will a power user want to install a bunch of stuff, or will he want to cherry-pick only what he wants/needs?
[01:55] <IdleOne> I prefer to pick and chose but at the same time I appreciate packages like K-E-Xubuntu-desktop
[01:55] <IdleOne> makes things a lot easier from a support point of view.
[01:55] <IdleOne> people ask how do I install KDE simple answer, just install this one package.
[02:01] <mhall119> yeah, I just don't consider those folks power users
[02:02] <mhall119> I guess I'm just hung up on the name
[02:02] <mhall119> s/power users/tweakers/ and my complaint goes away
[02:19] <doctormo> vish: Ideally settings of all kinds would have designed interfaces and be carefully considered.
[03:02] <doctormo> I simply want to rage against whatever utter pillok thought it was a great idea to pop up that bloody upgrade screen, over and over and over
[03:02] <doctormo> Until users got sick to death with being nagged to upgrade and gave in
[03:03] <doctormo> _Another_ unhappy Ubuntu user phones me at 10pm at night panicking because the upgrade has toasted their computer. Rotten Xorg!
[03:04] <doctormo> And I am unhappy because every time it happens I have to apologise profusely for something that should never have made it into maverick.
[06:41] <IdleOne> mhall119: I just read jono's post. I am not sure I like the idea of a ubuntu-experts community, it makes me feel like it would be a separate community of "leet" users. I do like the idea of more configuration tools and I gather jono meant perhaps even all under one application (maybe a nicer/better ccsm). I don't like the idea of splitting the community into power-users and normal-users.
[06:42] <IdleOne> What makes this community great IMO is that the leet hang out with the not so leet like myself :)
[07:10] <jono> IdleOne, I agree we need plenty of intermingling
[07:10] <jono> but it is important also that Ubuntu is welcome to all
[07:10] <jono> and there is not a perception that Ubuntu is just for newbies
[07:11] <jono> I think we can optimize our community for newbies as well as expert users
[07:12] <nigelb> Morning folks!
[07:14] <nigelb> Daviey: haha, you englishman! You're holding a cup of tea in the group photo :P
[07:14] <nigelb> http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Oneiric/17103699_kzzLF6#1296266345_td259gj-X3-LB
[07:16] <dpm> good morning all!
[07:24] <dpm> hey nigelb :)
[07:24] <nigelb> hey dpm, good morning!
[07:24] <nigelb> Morning ara!
[07:25] <ara> morning nigelb, all
[07:27] <dpm> good morning ara
[07:34] <Daviey> nigelb: :)
[07:34] <nigelb> Daviey: I didn't notice it till today, incidentally when drinking tea myself ;)
[07:39] <Daviey> heh
[07:49] <dholbach> good morning
[07:50] <nigelb> good morning dholbach :)
[07:50] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[08:26] <dpm> morning dholbach
[08:27] <dholbach> hey dpm
[09:01] <kim0> morning everyone
[10:15] <dpm> hey kim0, morning!
[10:15] <kim0> dpm: hey :)
[10:15] <kim0> how's it going
[10:27] <dpm> doing a massive e-mail catch up atm :)
[10:27] <dpm> pre- and post-UDS
[14:09] <mhall119> cjohnston: did you forget what I look like?
[14:21] <cjohnston> I went based on where I had seen you.. I didn't actually see you in the picture tho
[14:39] <nigelb> cjohnston: he's just ahead of Emmet if that helps.
[14:44] <mhall119> I'm all the way on the left, just below the balcony on the side
[15:24] <cjohnston> ///26
[15:24] <cjohnston> uggh
[15:29] <mhall119> need more /'s
[15:38] <nigelb> lol
[15:38] <nigelb> mhall119: About 42 ought to do the trick ;)
[15:54] <jcastro> OMG.
[15:54] <jcastro> kim0: kim0
[15:54] <jcastro> I found the problem with the slow alt-tab.
[15:56] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:56] <dholbach> jcastro, what is it?
[15:56] <jcastro> we set a delay of 2 milliseconds by DEFAULT!!!
[15:56] <jcastro> @#$%@#$%
[15:57] <dholbach> ?
[15:57] <jcastro> popup window delay in CCSM in "static switcher"
[15:57] <jono> howdy dholbach
[15:57] <dholbach> where's that?
[15:57] <popey> uh, yes jcastro
[15:57] <popey> I have pointed this out numerous times
[15:57] <popey> its bonkers
[15:59] <dholbach> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm bliss
[15:59] <jono> kim0, nearly ready to get jiggy with the roadmap review?
[15:59] <kim0> jcastro: oh! cool
[15:59] <kim0> jono: okie
[15:59] <nigelb> jcastro: \o/ WIN.
[16:00] <kim0> jcastro: 2ms sounds too small to be noticeable
[16:00] <jcastro> I just tried it
[16:00] <jcastro> it's totally fast now
[16:00] <kim0> woohoo cool
[16:01] <nigelb> jcastro: bitesize bug on the way? ;)
[16:02] <maco> czajkowski: how often do teams get reapproved?
[16:02] <jcastro> kim0: lmk how it works out for you (after your call, etc.)
[16:02] <kim0> jcastro: so it was pushed already ? cool
[16:02] <czajkowski> maco: ever2 years
[16:03] <maco> ah ok
[16:03] <czajkowski> why
[16:06] <ara> dpm, which is the blueprint on developer.ubuntu.com? I thought the session was very interesting, and I would like to subscribe
[16:07] <maco> czajkowski: i was confused by the blog post...didn't know if my loco was on the list to be reapproved or see a link to whatever group it is you mentioned for the admins
[16:07] <maco> er, bug i mean
[16:08] <maco> but i think we did it last year
[16:28] <czajkowski> jono: morning
[16:28] <czajkowski> maco: aye ye've done
[16:28] <czajkowski> jono: is doing a post that will list all 27 teams for this cycle to be approved
[16:28] <paultag> pretty pretty please
[16:28] <czajkowski> we figure putting it on his blog post means more people read it
[16:30] <AlanBell> http://loco.ubuntu.com/loco-council/approved
[16:30] <jussi> what, people actually read jono's blog? :P :P
[16:30] <AlanBell> would have been a handy link to have put in the mail
[16:31] <czajkowski> AlanBell: it was once it was clarified it was a mistake to leave out
[16:31] <jono> dholbach, just wrapped with kim0, you are next, pal :-)
[16:31] <jono> jussi, arsehole :-)
[16:31] <jono> czajkowski, I will get that up today hopefully
[16:32] <czajkowski> jono: great sooner the better as we've teams fretting they're being chosen.
[16:32] <czajkowski> thanks
[16:32] <jono> czajkowski, I am not sure my blog should be the primary place they find this info - did you post to loco-contacts?
[16:33] <czajkowski> jono: yes
[16:33] <czajkowski> but not listed the teams
[16:33] <jono> czajkowski, why not?
[16:33] <jussi> hehe
[16:34] <jono> dholbach, yoohoo?!
[16:34] <czajkowski> jono: becase each team contact got a bug mail sent yesterday to them we then mailed loco contacts to let them know that A) someone got the bug and B) re approvals are happening
[16:34] <jono> czajkowski, so what is the purpose of the blog entry?
[16:34] <jono> just visibility on the general process?
[16:35] <czajkowski> not everyone reads the loco contacts list
[16:35] <czajkowski> yes
[16:35] <jono> ok
[16:35] <jono> np
[16:35] <czajkowski> thank you
[16:35] <jono> :-)
[16:36] <dpm> ara, on a broadcast atm, let me come back to you in a few minutes with the link
[16:36] <jono> ara, you see, the minute he gets into Television, dpm just ignores us little people
[16:36] <jono> we should have seen the signs of this with his perfect hair
[16:37] <czajkowski> lol
[16:41]  * jono goes in and trolls dpm's videocast
[16:41] <czajkowski> there are some very strange people in ireland
[16:41] <czajkowski> and I love them and all that
[16:41] <czajkowski> http://www.tog.ie/2011/05/ubuntu-rocks/
[16:43]  * jono wonders where on earth dholbach went
[16:44] <czajkowski> jono: to check out his hair for his tv show clearly
[16:45] <jono> lol
[16:50] <jono> so it seems dholbach totally blew me off
[16:50] <jono> maybe he doesn't want to be friends anymore
[16:50] <czajkowski> getting a blow dry
[16:51] <czajkowski> jono: did something come of the bug of the wiki and internal server timeouts at UDS
[16:51] <jono> czajkowski, which bug?
[16:52] <jcastro> czajkowski: yeah I talked to charlieS
[16:52] <jcastro> basically over the next month they'll be upgrading individual wikis
[16:52] <jcastro> and then they will do the main wiki
[16:52] <jcastro> as well as move the FS on the machine to ext4.
[16:52] <czajkowski> thank FECK!
[16:52] <czajkowski> if I see that error once more I' going to find the server and kick it so hard and install vista on it !
[16:52]  * czajkowski hugs jcastro 
[16:53] <czajkowski> jono: bug logged on the fact if you edit the wiki more often than not you get a server error
[16:53] <jcastro> they've been working on it for like months, it's a horrible mess
[16:53] <czajkowski> nods
[16:53] <jcastro> but it seems like most of the hard part is over
[16:53] <paultag> this is what we get for using Python
[16:53]  * paultag ducks
[16:53]  * czajkowski looks at the loco council monthly report
[16:54] <paultag> but really, MoinMoin?
[16:54] <czajkowski> it's going to be a fun cycle ahead of us
[16:54] <paultag> :)
[16:54] <czajkowski> :D
[16:54] <paultag> czajkowski: Oh we got this covered :)
[16:54] <paultag> czajkowski: I'm super stoked people are already asking for meetings :)
[16:54] <czajkowski> paultag: aye ireland is working on it as a team on saturday on irc
[16:54] <jcastro> he mentioned there's a company that charges for moin -> mediawiki conversion
[16:54] <czajkowski> and in person in dublin
[16:54] <jcastro> but it's expensive
[16:58] <Technoviking> maybe we should make a new wiki with mediawiki and have people transfer data from the Moin wiki they want to it. Would get rid of the uncare for pages quickly.
[16:58] <Technoviking> :)
[16:59] <paultag> oldwiki.ubuntu
[16:59] <Technoviking> jcastro: you run a new dual monitor setup in Unity correct?
[16:59] <jcastro> from what I understood moving to mediawiki was not completely off the table.
[16:59] <jcastro> yeah
[17:00] <Technoviking> how I remove the indicator from the second monitor only. they keep slowly moving off screen
[17:00] <jcastro> you can't. :-/
[17:00] <jcastro> they're supposed to be there by design, the moving off the screen is a bug. :-/
[17:01] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecentChanges
[17:01] <jcastro> WOO!
[17:01] <Technoviking> UNITY!!!!!!
[17:01] <jcastro> look at those pages BURN!
[17:01] <Technoviking> heh
[17:01] <paultag> I just switched to KDE :)
[17:02] <paultag> I can have my 2 screens again :)
[17:02] <Technoviking> paultag: I'm annoyed with Unity , not insane:)
[17:02] <paultag> hehehe
[17:02] <jcastro> the dual indicators just looks dumb
[17:02] <jcastro> but it's actually useful, you never have to mouse too far
[17:03]  * Technoviking feel the screams of a thousand Nixternals
[17:06] <nigelb> dpm: Nice job
[17:09] <czajkowski> jcastro: wow you're on a mission
[17:09] <czajkowski> jcastro: you know that stilll won't fix the wiki though :p
[17:09] <jcastro> right, still, plenty of crap to get rid of
[17:09] <czajkowski> :D
[17:10] <jcastro> I did a lightning talk, but it's not up yet.
[17:11] <nigelb> jcastro: darn, that's a lot of deletions
[17:11] <jcastro> czajkowski: I am declaring war on bad information
[17:11] <nigelb> czajkowski: There is one update on the wiki, not sure if you've seen that
[17:11] <nigelb> charlieS>AlanBell: sorry, a bit stalled due to the main person working on it being out sick (and a high switching cost to have someone else take over). Should resume on Monday.. at which time you'll have a test site to poke at and provide feedback on.
[17:12] <popey> jcastro: i did the same a while back getting rid of old specs
[17:12] <popey> ☺
[17:12] <jcastro> popey: this time I made everyone commit to deleting at least 5 pages this cycle
[17:12] <jcastro> per person
[17:12] <jcastro> ~600 people in the room
[17:12] <jcastro> it's a start
[17:13] <popey> do you put a reason?
[17:13] <popey> or just bin the page?
[17:13] <nigelb> oh, do you want a list of all the pages in the wiki? it 503's every now and then, but I could get you a static page.
[17:13] <jcastro> popey: if it's old crap like warty I don't bother
[17:13] <nigelb> (if it loads)
[17:14] <jcastro> if it's something that might or might not be useful I leave a note
[17:14] <jcastro> like, there was one for "let's have drinks with Mark at this pub" around breezy time.
[17:14] <jcastro> it's like, why keep that around
[17:14] <nigelb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NigelBabu/index
[17:15] <jcastro> popey: for help.ubuntu.com you can just edit it and add a deletion thing up top
[17:15] <jcastro> and the editors will go through them and delete them
[17:15] <popey> i https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecentChanges there you go
[17:15] <popey> done my 5 and more
[17:15] <jcastro> we can probably delete everything hardware related and move to the database thing HW cert people are setting up
[17:15] <popey> ☺
[17:16] <paultag> ♥
[17:16] <jcastro> popey: oh, that reminds me
[17:16] <jcastro> I'm not really touching newish specs
[17:16] <jcastro> since cjwatson likes to refer to them, etc.
[17:16] <jcastro> so when the new wiki is up maybe we can put all specs in one place
[17:16] <jcastro> and keep those for historical reasons
[17:17] <czajkowski> paultag: you may regret showing popey those smileys
[17:18] <paultag> czajkowski: me? Never!
[17:18] <paultag> ← woo
[17:18] <dpm> thanks nigelb :)
[17:18] <dpm> jono, you troll! :P
[17:18] <jono> dpm, lol
[17:18] <jono> :-)
[17:19] <nigelb> heh
[17:21] <dpm> ara, it was https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-o-developer-ubuntu-dot-com-plans - I've just subscribed you to it
[17:21] <dpm> I need to refine the work items on it tomorrow, though
[17:23] <jcastro> popey: this is the easy stuff, when I ask to say, purge all the wireless pages since they're all outdated crap ... that will cause pain.
[17:24] <czajkowski> jcastro: much upset you're going to cause :)
[17:24]  * dpm doesn't miss the days in which wireless "just didn't work"
[17:25] <jcastro> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[17:28] <jcastro> popey: when I get the video of my lightning talk I will blog about how to methodically get our wikis in shape
[17:28] <jcastro> I have ideas!
[17:28] <popey> cool
[17:29] <jcastro> popey: and Technoviking's working on the forums as well!
[17:30] <popey> what do you do about au?
[17:30] <popey> is there an 'obsolete' tag?
[17:30] <jcastro> no, you just delete it
[17:30] <jcastro> or update it
[17:31] <jcastro> basically, the same as you would with a wiki
[17:33] <popey> nice
[17:33] <jcastro> jono: we go in 30 minutes right?
[17:34] <jcastro> Technoviking: hey remember how you mentioned a "this post is useful" button for the forums?
[17:40] <jono> jcastro, yep
[17:46] <popey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/35488/list-of-custom-launchers-quicklists-for-unity is awesome!
[17:57] <Technoviking> jcastro: yes, I hope to add it in the forums upgrade
[17:59] <jono> jcastro, all set?
[17:59] <jcastro> jono: 2 minutes please!
[17:59] <jono> jcastro, np
[18:00] <Technoviking> jcastro: hope to add this with a Rate post 1-10 opinion http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=233296
[18:00] <dpm> ok, time to call it a day, see you all tomorrow!
[18:00] <doctormo> Nightime already
[18:02] <jcastro> jono: ok all set!
[18:26] <nigelb> popey: Indeed. \o/
[19:18] <JFo> jono, my house is jumpin' ;)
[19:19] <JFo> the neighbor came over and asked me what I was listening to. :-)
[19:19] <jcastro> JFo: don't forget I need that forum thread feedback from your team to give to Mike
[19:20] <jcastro> JFo: I got sconklin's already
[19:20] <jono> JFo, nice!
[19:20] <JFo> jcastro, yep, pete sent out a mail about it
[19:20] <jcastro> ta
[19:20] <JFo> jono, older guy. I asked him if it was too loud and he said "nah, if it get s too loud, then I'm too old."
[19:20] <JFo> I was floored
[19:20] <jono> haha
[19:21] <JFo> he knew it was a Humble Pie song though
[19:21] <JFo> 30 Days in the Hole on the Live... WIth a Little Help From Our Friends album
[19:21] <doctormo> jono: Get my email last night?
[19:24] <jono> doctormo, yep
[20:12] <jcastro> caffeine break, bbiab
[20:17] <nigelb> JFo: You hit the nail on the head. The problem about fixing Lp bugs is learning to write the tests
[20:17] <nigelb> JFo: After 4 days, now I can say, I have "some" idea.
[20:17] <jono> Technoviking, can you config that list so we don't get emailed when someone joins?
[20:17] <jono> I thought I had fixed it
[20:20] <JFo> nigelb, :)
[20:21] <nigelb> JFo: But its a seriously good feeling though :-)
[20:22] <JFo> inded
[21:09] <Technoviking> jono: will do
[21:12] <paultag> I guess
[21:12] <paultag> Oh, I missed the ":"
[21:18] <mhall119> that's okay, he missed a pronoun and a subject
[21:52] <jcastro> popey: jono_
[21:52] <jcastro> http://blip.tv/ubuntu-developers/ubuntu-uds-o-budapest-friday-plenary-lightning-talks-5182944
[21:52] <jcastro> FFWD to 22:45
[21:52] <jono_> jcastro, awesome, thanks
[21:53] <jono_> on the eng. mgrs. call now, will check it soon
[21:53] <jono_> jcastro, http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/05/19/building-the-kitchen-sink/
[21:53] <jono_> just posted this while on the call
[21:58] <popey> jcastro: awesome talk dude1
[21:58] <popey> !
[21:58] <popey> DELETE!
[22:05] <doctormo> jcastro: good talk. Can I delete 5 wiki pages too?
[22:06] <jcastro> or 50!
[22:08] <doctormo> jono_: You could probably take gconf info and build a good ui around the majority of options.
[22:08] <doctormo> It just needs some hard assumptions.
[22:09] <jono_> doctormo, indeed
[22:09] <doctormo> jcastro: We can only delete pages in the wiki and not the guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_linuxwacom_driver needs to go.
[22:10] <jcastro> for help.ubuntu.com you need to add a delete tag
[22:10] <jcastro> and the wiki editor team will review it
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[22:11] <jcastro> just add that at the top
[22:11] <doctormo> ok, thanks
[22:11] <jcastro> and for edit reason leave a note
[22:32] <jcastro> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecentChanges
[22:32] <jcastro> I don't know who Connor Imes is, but he's my hero
[22:48] <popey> wow, awesome!
[22:48] <popey> i am going to mention your talk on the podcast next week
[22:49] <popey> try to get more people deleting content
[22:49] <jcastro> popey: do you have the creds of the youtube account?
[22:49] <popey> i think so, yes
[22:49] <popey> one mo
[22:51] <jcastro> popey: can you mark the licenses on the UDS-O videos?
[22:52] <jcastro> the online youtube editor says I can edit it if the license is set to CC
[22:52] <popey> jono_: i logged in to the ubuntu developers youtube account, i forced me to link it to a google account and defaulted to yours
[22:52] <popey> so i did that
[22:52] <popey> jono@ubuntu.com
[22:52] <popey> you will probably get a mail about it
[22:52] <jcastro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Cxs9OHIBcs
[22:52] <jcastro> this one specifically
[22:52]  * AlanBell can see a problem with a huge "please delete our content" call to the internetz
[22:52] <jcastro> so I can edit out an individual video
[22:53] <popey> i see no license option
[22:53] <jcastro> AlanBell: not the internet
[22:53] <jcastro> just within the project
[22:53] <jcastro> so I can send users to the wiki with confidence
[22:54] <jcastro> as opposed to like "don't read that crap, you'll just break your computer"
[22:54]  * AlanBell is glad to hear the podcast is not on the internet
[22:54] <jono_> thanks popey
[22:55] <AlanBell> uupc has I think a fairly constructive listenerbase so I am sure it will be fine
[22:55] <popey> we do!?
[22:55] <popey> there is no license option in youtube that i can see
[22:55] <AlanBell> well I listen, and I can't imagine many other people do :)
[22:56] <jcastro> popey: hmm, the editor tells me it can't edit the video due to the license not being CC
[22:56] <jcastro> also, everyone should really see Randall's talk at around 11:15: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Cxs9OHIBcs
[22:58] <popey> i reckon it gets it from blip
[22:58] <popey> you can set the license there
[22:59] <popey> yay, remembered the ubuntudevlopers blip password
[23:00] <popey> jcastro: in blip that video was set to "public domain"
[23:01] <popey> i set it to cc-by-sa
[23:01] <popey> dunno if that will filter down to yt tho :S
[23:01] <jcastro> ugh
[23:01] <jcastro> the guys set them all to PD instead of CCBYSA
[23:01] <popey> thats the default to be fair
[23:02] <maco> jcastro: where are yall moving again?
[23:03] <jcastro> boca raton
[23:11] <cjohnston> jcastro needs to hurry up and get down here
[23:11] <cjohnston> jcastro: you need to get certified to dive while your here and we will go diving
[23:59] <jcastro> man openshot is SOOOO good