=== mnepton is now known as mneptok [01:39] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (s-dfaqwfd appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY) [01:40] Might want to fix floodbot triggering on NAT cloaks. [01:45] Corey: poke LjL about it, he's the floodbot person ;) [01:45] and yes, i did say that to highlight LjL ;) [01:58] rww: is qin banned? [01:58] not that I know of [01:58] thought I saw you mention something a couple days ago [01:58] about them [02:00] oh hey, it's shcherbak. I knew it'd be someone that'd been in #ubuntu a while [02:00] anyway. no, doesn't look like it. [02:01] (I've been idly wondering who the new three-letter-nick person that answers questions like they're not new is) [02:04] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (sffreer appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY) [02:10] ubottu: I'll get right on that ;) [02:10] rww: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [02:11] Assuming that nobody minds, I'm going to be leaving #ubuntu +r for a while, since these dolts are apparently watching for it to go -r. === Jordan_U_ is now known as Jordan_U [03:18] !ping [03:18] Here I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to respond to factoid requests. Call that job satisfaction? Because I don't. [03:20] hey [03:20] hi [03:20] My brain is quad core on 200MG caffiene [03:20] okay [03:20] wait [03:21] and it runs at 300Ghjz [03:21] plus ubuntu sucks cock [03:21] !ops [03:21] * rww giggles [03:21] hah [03:21] mac os x is god! [03:21] almost had me waiting for more specs [03:21] go go power rangers [03:21] BAN ME! [03:21] IdleOne: almost makes me want to use Ubuntu [03:21] rww: I hear you [03:22] my brain specs are [03:22] EOL hardware? [03:22] 3.2Ghz Clock Speed 4 cores 256GB l2 Cache 1GB l1 Cache [03:22] 500Ghz FSB [03:22] HFSPLUS: I haven't seen you in a while. I take it you're not here to resolve your multitude of bands? [03:22] and it is hyperthreaded [03:22] bans. or bands too if you want. [03:22] and it runs exclusivly on my kernel Brain [03:23] when i take 1000Mg caffiene my brain rockets up to 1Thz [03:23] anyways i urge you to ban me [03:23] why? [03:23] oh, YankeesFan is HFSPLUS? Lol, I never made that connection. [03:23] or I did any forgot. either way, amused. [03:23] and ** [03:24] whos YankeesFan? [03:24] I am asking the questions here [03:24] why do you want to be banned? [03:25] ban me! [03:27] odd [03:27] I like the bantracker comment for their +b in #ubuntu: "boring troll" [03:28] heh [03:28] He was slightly entertaining this time [03:30] About as entertaining as fish in a barrel really. The most exciting bit is the nuking. === Jordan_U_ is now known as Jordan_U [10:49] Please remove the OCaml rebuild bit from the #ubuntu+1 topic and add "Do not upgrade gnome-settings-daemon to 3.0+ as it doesn't work well with Unity yet" [11:45] Corey: what's it about nat cloaks? [14:37] theadmin called the ops in #ubuntu () [14:38] Pici: I only see two users with that hostmask [14:38] Pici: same ip as nickblotbla which I said "hello hello hello" to if you recall [14:38] Chaosfreund and nickbotbla [14:39] I sent a message to marten__ earlier who is on the same connection that we don't allow bots in our channel. [14:40] Drego is on now from the same connection [15:36] hi! [15:36] ban me! [15:36] i hit the gym hardcore everyday [15:36] fuck ubuntu [15:36] fuck linux [15:36] mac os x is god! [15:36] sdhasu: why do you want to be banned? [15:37] cuz i hit the gym hardcore [15:37] i need a doctor [15:37] meow meow [15:37] poopcheese [15:38] i bet no one hits the gym hardcore like i do [15:41] I bet I do [15:53] "* (with ubuntu)" [16:09] In #ubuntu-irc, arand said: !partialupgrade is Partial upgrades offered by update-manager, or excessive removals by "apt-get dist-upgrade" are often due to repository inconsistencies, the best fix is often to simply wait, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751299 for more info. [16:10] In #ubuntu-irc, arand said: !partial is !partialupgrade [16:15] wut [16:15] that makes no sense at all [16:15] it doesn't? [16:16] no [16:16] its wrong in a number of ways [16:16] bah [16:16] "Most "Partial Upgrade" situations occur due to package archive inconsistencies, which will typically be resolved within a few hours. If your package manager is confused, and so are you, simply wait and hold off the updates until things settle down. " [16:16] its just flat out not true [16:17] you mean the info in the link? [16:17] I just dont agree with any of it [16:18] Please edit the factoid to make it clearer [16:18] Its the information in the page, not just the factoid [16:18] no, I disagree with the page _and_ the factoid [16:18] but I don't know how to fix it [16:18] Also, I'm not a fan of "Due to the fact that uploads to the repositories of the active development branch are asynchronous and uncoordinated,..." [16:18] I can't fix the forum [16:18] ok [16:19] 'excessive removals by "apt-get dist-upgrade" - What does that even _mean_? [16:20] Its a bit vague. Often package removals are exactly what dist-upgrades should be doing. [16:20] dist-upgrades are something that people don't understand, people often give out stupid advice like "you should apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" thinking that "dist-upgrade" means "upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10" [16:21] The wording may not be perfect, but I have found that when upgrades want to remove many packages best thing is to just wait it out. Pici yes but not when it wants to uninstall half your system. [16:21] so people avoid dist-upgrade when they actually _should_ use it [16:21] I always do dist-upgrades myself, I avoid 'apt-get update' [16:21] IdleOne: i would like to see a real world example of that [16:21] not anecdotal "wait worked for me" evidence [16:22] Pici: i think you mean 'I avoid 'apt-get upgrade' ' [16:22] popey: er, yes. that makes more sense ;) [16:22] :) [16:22] real world example was during natty, when an update to xorg removed half the installed packages and broke the system for days [16:22] see, easy to get confused :) [16:22] popey: I can't show you one right now as my system is fairly stable, wants to remove evolution because of depends issues. [16:23] "during natty" you mean on a +1 development release [16:23] thats to be expected [16:23] surely we're talking about non-dev releases here? [16:23] no [16:23] this is for +1 [16:23] this factoid is specifically aimed at +1? [16:23] least the wiki is for Oneiric [16:23] The link is in the forum's oneiric subforum [16:23] * popey shuts up [16:23] let's ask arand in -irc to make sure [16:23] * popey apologises [16:24] (I still think the dist-upgrade bit is vague and badly worded) [16:24] but I apologise, I thought this was a non-dev factoisd [16:24] popey: the point you make is still valid [16:24] Some of the points* [16:24] doing apt-get upgrade still fails to keep a system up to date [16:25] I agree, partial upgrades shouldn't be happening at all in non-dev releases, and if they are, its usually the user's fault (adding some repo with weird dependencies, etc) [16:25] (or removing *buntu-desktop) [16:25] (as a result of removing... oh. I don't know.. pulseaudio) [16:26] So, who would like to reword that factoid and make it a +1 only ? I nominate charlie-tca [16:26] seconded [16:26] win! [16:27] heh [16:27] if it needs rewording [16:27] How did I get to be the one that doesn't anything. [16:27] How did I get to be the one that doesn't know anything. [16:27] huh? [16:27] I don't even have bot access [16:28] suggest a better worded version [16:28] I'll add it :) [16:28] but I am not sure how to enable it for +1 only now that it is global [16:29] huh? [16:29] Its not in the bot at all yet. [16:29] Partial upgrades during the develpment cycle, or excessive removals are often due to repository inconsistencies, the best fix is often to simply wait. [16:30] Just do !partialupgrade-#ubuntu+1 is etc... [16:30] Pici: I !forgot it [16:30] something like that [16:31] IdleOne: Just keep it forgotten then, and do the !partialupgrade-#ubuntu+1 is command [16:36] Does epiphany use webkit or gecko nowadays? [16:36] Yes. [16:36] thanks [16:37] WebKitGTK+ [16:39] Sorry, still trying to get by brain engaged fully here [17:01] cdbs: I'm beginning to think we should remove issue notices from #ubuntu+1's topic and put "Go subscribe to ubuntu-devel-announce" (or wherever this is mentioned) instead ;P [17:01] I know in Debian land there's an expectation that people running non-stable versions subscribe to a ML or two to find out about breakage. Is Ubuntu the same way? [17:01] +1 [17:03] I refuse to use systemd until it does email. [17:03] hehehe [17:30] I've just been reminded to review ban 37708. I think I can drop it, but I'd appreciate some handholding through dealing with the bantracker, when someone has time (no hurry) [17:32] persia: what's up ? [17:32] ikonia, I've never used the bantracker before :) [17:33] So, your question is how to remove the ban from bantracker? you don't. just remove the ban in the channel it is set and the bot will update the tracker [17:33] ok, lets walk it through [17:34] ahh, I missed that was the point of the question [17:34] ubottu will update the BT for you [17:34] ikonia: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [17:34] Ah, so I don't have to log into the bantracker or do anything? Excellent! [17:34] Thanks a lot. [18:17] hi there [18:18] in #u vous etes vraiment une bande de pute [19:16] ugh [19:16] le sigh [19:47] for reference, iirc "porco dio" is "i shit on god" ... common spanish way of swearing is "porco" + $holy_thing [19:48] ah no, spanish is caga dio [19:48] it's also an italian swear loosely translates to god damnit. [19:48] that one was italian for "pig god" [19:48] IdleOne: hey thanks [19:49] but it is more nasty in Italian [19:49] anyway not nice [19:49] direct translation and looser meaning don't work so well on swear words [19:49] i got far enough to figure out "offensive" [19:49] right :) [19:50] I got far enough to figure out "irrelevant spam" and then they switched to English. [19:50] Take that, polyglots. [19:50] so make that the spanish way of swearing is caga + $holy_thing [19:50] rww: the word the not xn4 person (bah forgot the nick) said that started with an m was the spanish word for the s-word-as-a-nouse [19:50] noun [19:51] nouse? huh. um. a mouse thats a noun? no theyre always nouns.... [19:51] close but that was French [19:51] (ps, that formula for spanish swearing applies pretty much exclusively to spain. latin america is more creative) [19:51] there was a not-french one too, IdleOne [19:51] oh didn't see that one [19:52] guess I need to add some non English words to my watch list [19:52] lolwatchlists [19:57] rww: how else do i catch the language and increase my ban count? [19:57] I want to be the best I what I do [19:58] The state of IRC needs more funding. Your ticket quotas have been increased! [20:02] yay IRC taxes! [20:21] We have new oppressors! [20:21] err, I mean ops [20:21] annuntio vobis gaudium magnum [20:21] you just got a new gun? [20:22] IdleOne: yes, i just need to register it to the gun access list [20:29] * topyli hides behind committee decision, washes hands [20:30] ;-) [21:36] * popey reads his irc mail. Golly, didnt expect that ☺ [21:37] * popey rejoins -ot ;) [21:38] * LjL rolls eyes a little [22:41] LjL: welcome back to the illuminati conspiracy [22:46] Congratulations to the new ops! May your day never be boring again. [22:47] #ubuntu ops: comes with free interesting times [22:47] Lucky lucky me. :-) [22:48] ooooh, that's who Corey is. mmk [22:48] tonyyarusso: Yeah, I'm transitioning over. [22:48] Who said people could change their nicks? Geez. [22:51] rww: thanks [22:56] * rww flaunts his voice [22:57] dunn daa dunn [23:02] * ldunn wallows in his -v [23:02] ldunn: do you have any inquiry for the core channels operators? [23:02] ldunn: if not, please part the channel [23:02] :( [23:02] * LjL hugs ldunn [23:02] ldunn: be careful, he bites [23:02] lovingly [23:03] Biting is like kissing, only there's a winner. [23:03] :D [23:04] and she's a woman! she's a woman and she's the tardis! [23:04] did you wish REALLY hard? [23:04] what [23:04] hehehehe [23:04] TIL #ubuntu-offtopic is mostly like -ot but with fewer people [23:04] * tonyyarusso does not understand reference ;( [23:04] * persia notes that same-species biting is one of the most virulent potential pathogen exchange mechanisms available [23:04] ldunn: itym #Ubuntu-olps? [23:04] ldunn: I think you accidentally an -ops [23:04] I do. :( [23:05] irssi tab-complete for channels does not yet read my mind. [23:05] * tonyyarusso wonders what -olps is like [23:05] ldunn, If you can make it work with a joystick, it's not that hard to get to mind-reading. [23:05] tonyyarusso: latest episode of doctor who, "The Doctor's Wife", by Neil Gaiman [23:06] ldunn, ! [23:06] the tardis's soul is put into a woman's body. she kisses the Doctor, then someone says "careful now, she bites!" and she goes "i do? oh! *bite* i like biting! biting's like kissing but with a winner!" [23:06] hi bazhang ! [23:06] weeeeeeelllllcome! [23:06] ttthaaaannnkk you. [23:07] man I really should start watching dr who [23:07] yes [23:07] definitely [23:07] is it ok just to start with season 6? or should I start from 2005? or from the 1960's or whenever it was? [23:07] okays, work time [23:07] season 5 probably [23:07] because there's a single story arch across 5 & 6 [23:08] Sounds like the sort of thing where if you miss a bit you'll be even more confused. [23:08] tonyyarusso: eh, its a sitcom. you can watch an episode or two and whatevs [23:08] its just that there's a bigger story arch thats taking 2 seasons to go through, so if you want that entire story, you should start at season 5 (when matt smith started) [23:09] highvoltage: which means you've got about 15 episodes to catch up on [23:09] yeah I guess it's good to be current so I'll start with season 5 and catch up, and then take it from the beginning [23:10] heh from the beginning is 1963 [23:10] ive seen all the post-2005 episodes and a decent handful of the 70s [23:10] but ive by no means gone through the 80-something DVDs crimsun gave me [23:10] (he was downsizing) [23:25] ldunn: welcome :) and congrats [23:26] IdleOne: thanks :) [23:34] Corey: congrats to you also :) [23:41] maco: do you listen to the doctor who podcast? [23:45] IdleOne: Thanks!