| wolfger | party? | 13:12 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h__ | no, not this morning | 13:13 |
| rick_h__ | stupid mysql is pissing me off | 13:13 |
| brousch | potty? | 13:14 |
| rick_h__ | I'm telling the boss I want a postgres box when he comes in | 13:14 |
| rick_h__ | @#$#%@ this crap | 13:14 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 13:15 |
| rick_h__ | bah humbug | 13:15 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: MySQL fall down go boom? | 13:15 |
| rick_h__ | I submit chinese to my db, with my code, on my system everything works | 13:15 |
| rick_h__ | do it live, characters fubar | 13:15 |
| rick_h__ | take my code, talk to live db, saves good chinese | 13:15 |
| rick_h__ | the server daemon can't read it out of the db though | 13:15 |
| rick_h__ | same code, same git checkout, same python packages, same versions of all the code... | 13:16 |
| rick_h__ | different versions of the mysql db is the only change | 13:16 |
| snap-l | Same version of MySQL? | 13:16 |
| rick_h__ | no, mysql versions are different | 13:16 |
| rick_h__ | but if I use my system to talk to the live db, all works | 13:16 |
| snap-l | Also, is it the same server? | 13:16 |
| snap-l | ie: Ubuntu vs CentOS? | 13:16 |
| rick_h__ | as long as all the code runs on my computer, talking to the ubuntu mysql server I'd good | 13:16 |
| rick_h__ | as soon as it's the same server the mysql db is on, chinese goes to hell | 13:17 |
| rick_h__ | so only thing I can think is something with mysql client? | 13:17 |
| rick_h__ | since it's the same connection config, same my.cnf, etc | 13:17 |
| tjagoda | Ubuntu vs. CentOS is the first thing I see on login | 13:17 |
| tjagoda | going to be a good day | 13:17 |
| tjagoda | =P | 13:17 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Probably different compile options on the server. | 13:17 |
| rick_h__ | sick of it, postgres...unicode ootb | 13:17 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: no, because I'm talking from my compter to the live server it works | 13:18 |
| snap-l | Huh, that's strange. | 13:18 |
| rick_h__ | it's only when the code (same git checkout, same python library versions) are on the server itself that it fails | 13:18 |
| rick_h__ | we're both talking to the same database though | 13:18 |
| rick_h__ | yea, exactly | 13:18 |
| rick_h__ | strange and pissing me off | 13:18 |
| rick_h__ | if your db, or code, or library, or whatever isn't unicode ootb shove it | 13:19 |
| rick_h__ | time to start pushing mysql out of here | 13:19 |
| snap-l | Heh, could agree more. | 13:19 |
| * rick_h__ goes back to typing useless things that won't fix this problem on his keyboard | 13:19 | |
| snap-l | you might want to start checking support libraries to see what's different | 13:20 |
| rick_h__ | only thing I can think is the mysql-client | 13:20 |
| snap-l | ie: libmysql, or something | 13:20 |
| rick_h__ | that's different because of the different distro | 13:20 |
| brousch | could it be in the OS? | 13:20 |
| rick_h__ | ^^ | 13:20 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Which distro is it? CentOS? | 13:21 |
| brousch | centos doesn't understand chinese | 13:21 |
| rick_h__ | ubuntu | 13:21 |
| rick_h__ | LTS | 13:21 |
| brousch | the server is 10.04? | 13:21 |
| rick_h__ | what's the command to check the version? | 13:21 |
| rick_h__ | not the uname, but something to get the 10.04/etc | 13:22 |
| snap-l | dpkg -l | grep mysql | less | 13:22 |
| rick_h__ | heh, not that sorry | 13:22 |
| rick_h__ | dpkg -l and I are good friends | 13:22 |
| snap-l | oh, um... /etc/lsb-release | 13:22 |
| rick_h__ | ok yea, 10.04 | 13:22 |
| snap-l | .2? | 13:23 |
| rick_h__ | yep | 13:23 |
| snap-l | hurm | 13:23 |
| snap-l | libmysqlclient16? | 13:25 |
| rick_h__ | http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/05/18/creating-an-ubuntu-power-user-community/ snap-l | 13:25 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I joined it last night | 13:26 |
| snap-l | they're busy trying to figure out what to call the IRC channel | 13:26 |
| snap-l | #ubuntu-experts, or #ubuntu-power-users | 13:26 |
| wolfger | call it #ubuntu-puc | 13:26 |
| snap-l | Fear is that expert questions will start getting fielded there. | 13:26 |
| snap-l | #ubuntu-ricers. | 13:27 |
| rick_h__ | hmm, maybe that's it. The server has libmysqlclient16, I just have libmysqlclient on my system | 13:27 |
| rick_h__ | call it #ubuntu-jump-ship-queue | 13:27 |
| wolfger | heh | 13:27 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Are you using UTF16 or UTF8? | 13:30 |
| rick_h__ | 8 | 13:30 |
| snap-l | kk | 13:30 |
| rick_h__ | yea, has to be client differences | 13:32 |
| rick_h__ | ugh, fail | 13:33 |
| snap-l | Any way to run the code on a newer Ubuntu instance? | 13:33 |
| tjagoda | Anybody in here used Fedora on the desktop recently? | 13:34 |
| rick_h__ | no, not going to happen. Basically think I'm paying the price for not keeping my laptop on LTS | 13:35 |
| rick_h__ | http://uploads.mitechie.com/mysql_hate_me.png | 13:35 |
| rick_h__ | the top is mysql cmd line on the server | 13:35 |
| rick_h__ | the bottom is my laptop | 13:35 |
| rick_h__ | notice the different lol, talking to the same server | 13:35 |
| rick_h__ | is mysql in ubuntu actually percona? | 13:37 |
| tjagoda | I'm thinking of setting my laptop as dual boot Fedora and Ubuntu | 13:42 |
| tjagoda | Depending on how stable I find Fedora to be | 13:42 |
| tjagoda | I love Ubuntu, but crashing to login SUCKS in the middle of an online class test. | 13:43 |
| brousch | ew | 13:43 |
| brousch | opensuse > fedora | 13:43 |
| tjagoda | bleh | 13:43 |
| tjagoda | If I'm going to RPM land, I'm at least using the RPM's most closely related to Red Hat | 13:44 |
| rick_h__ | yea, with tjagoda on this one | 13:44 |
| brousch | have fun with that | 13:44 |
| brousch | sumbitch pyohio and detroit maker faire are the same weekend again | 13:46 |
| tjagoda | I love when users send me a book of an email, in which they try and analyze the problem from a perspective which is totally incorrect. | 13:47 |
| tjagoda | I don't know what's better | 13:47 |
| tjagoda | Wasting my time reading their incorrect thoughts, or wasting my time when they haven't applied enough tought? =P | 13:48 |
| tjagoda | thought* | 13:48 |
| wolfger | wasting time with somebody who's thinking incorrectly > wasting time with somebody who isn't thinking | 13:54 |
| wolfger | because there's at least a hope that they will use their brain correctly in the future | 13:54 |
| wolfger | people who don't think probably never will | 13:55 |
| tjagoda | I'll buy that logic | 14:01 |
| tjagoda | I really need to update Sharepoint Services | 14:01 |
| tjagoda | But I'm terrified of it | 14:03 |
| tjagoda | I haven't upgraded it since I was forced to as result of my last disaster recovery 3 years ago | 14:03 |
| tjagoda | Like a cage match with an entire family of rabid man-eating racoons. | 14:03 |
| brousch | be afraid. be very afraid. | 14:04 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Ouch (re: http://uploads.mitechie.com/mysql_hate_me.png) | 14:05 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: yea, exactly :) So now the question is, is this a bug in a new mysqlclient? | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | is this breakage coming to a future ubuntu client | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | and wtf should I do about it all? | 14:06 |
| snap-l | What's different between 371 and 365? | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | one was entered by the sever's mysqlclient (365) and one by my laptop's client | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | now the funny thing is that even the one that's correct according to the server (365) came out incorrectly once processed, but that might be a problem elsewhere I suppose | 14:07 |
| snap-l | Right, that's curious | 14:07 |
| snap-l | you'd think it'd be consistently broken | 14:07 |
| * wolfger sells that logic to tjagoda for a modest fee | 14:07 | |
| rick_h__ | yea, unfortunately I have to work on this stuff in between staff using the system | 14:08 |
| rick_h__ | since it's a issue with live vs testing | 14:08 |
| rick_h__ | I have to actually test on the live box | 14:08 |
| snap-l | Ugh | 14:08 |
| tjagoda | Mmmm | 14:08 |
| tjagoda | Cheap logic | 14:08 |
| tjagoda | Tastes like India | 14:08 |
| rick_h__ | bah, time to get some vms going I guess to see if I can replicate. | 14:08 |
| wolfger | Indian food ++ | 14:08 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Would you be able to create a test database on that database server? | 14:08 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: yea, I'll have to setup a more 'correct' test env and go from there | 14:09 |
| rick_h__ | if the boss would get in the office I'd get my permission to install pgsql and forget it :) | 14:09 |
| tjagoda | Wow | 14:11 |
| snap-l | You sure that LTS pgsql isn't going to introduce more unicode problems. ;) | 14:11 |
| tjagoda | I've avoided a LOT of sharepoint updates | 14:11 |
| tjagoda | I'm at Services 2.0 Service Pack 3 | 14:11 |
| tjagoda | There's a whole line of 3.0 | 14:11 |
| tjagoda | And then an entirely new product | 14:11 |
| tjagoda | =P | 14:11 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: since it's unicode ootb I think it'd be a lot better | 14:11 |
| rick_h__ | I'm not trying to match collation types/etc all between things | 14:12 |
| tjagoda | Pop quiz | 14:14 |
| tjagoda | AMD Opteron 2216: 64 bit or no? | 14:14 |
| snap-l | Heh, today's O'reilly Deal of the Day is Javascript The Definitive Edition | 14:14 |
| snap-l | 6th edition. I have 5th. | 14:15 |
| tjagoda | Bah | 14:15 |
| tjagoda | too slow | 14:15 |
| tjagoda | I was able to google faster =( | 14:15 |
| snap-l | tjagoda: and? | 14:15 |
| wolfger | You know you're lazy when you ask somebody an obscure question rather than just google it | 14:16 |
| wolfger | especially when you're *on a computer* at the time. | 14:16 |
| tjagoda | It's the first generation of AMD64 which is both 32 and 64 compatible | 14:17 |
| tjagoda | DONT JUDGE ME =P | 14:18 |
| rick_h__ | heh, ok so if I perform and document how to setup pgsql, repliaction, and failover I can have a pgsql server | 14:36 |
| rick_h__ | but first fix mysql ugh | 14:36 |
| rick_h__ | _stink_: http://miamicoder.com/2011/interesting-jquery-mobile-tutorials/ for your co-worker | 14:57 |
| jrwren | rick_h__: or maybe libmysqlclient.so is different? that is WEIRD. | 14:59 |
| jrwren | or the mysql server is not configured for utf8 or something. | 14:59 |
| jrwren | the problem with jono's "power users" is keeping the signal to noise high. | 15:00 |
| jrwren | i know lots of people who think theya re power users who really are not. | 15:00 |
| rick_h__ | jrwren: yea, and the fact that they're like "oh, you don't like where ubuntu is heading, here's a self help mailing list" | 15:00 |
| jrwren | oh is that the motivating factor? YUK | 15:01 |
| rick_h__ | points brought up that adding the hooks for people to dev custom tools on top of unity adds overhead to the base unity code and has already been turned away | 15:01 |
| jrwren | mostly an anti-unity reaction. | 15:01 |
| jrwren | terribly lame then. | 15:01 |
| rick_h__ | yea, "don't like unity, here you power users/devs...hack on it to fix it" | 15:01 |
| jrwren | i like the kickoff message though https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-power-users/2011-May/000000.htmlhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-power-users/2011-May/000000.html | 15:02 |
| rick_h__ | right, but it's nice to say that he'd love a package to be able to do tweaks | 15:04 |
| rick_h__ | but when there's no hooks into where the unity menubar is located, there's no way for an app to change that setting | 15:04 |
| jrwren | another thing entirely to make it a priority. | 15:04 |
| jrwren | yes there is. fork unity menubar package the fork as an alternative. | 15:04 |
| rick_h__ | hah, so the tweaks program pulls a unity fork altogether, Lovely | 15:05 |
| jrwren | i mean, hell, the entire menubar system is just an LD_PRELOAD trick. | 15:05 |
| rick_h__ | I'm sure that's what they want | 15:05 |
| jrwren | forking it cheap. | 15:05 |
| jrwren | we have github. ;) | 15:05 |
| jrwren | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ loads amazingly slow. i guess apache doesn't cache opendir+read results and so its slow for big directories. | 15:06 |
| rick_h__ | everything on canonical's infrastructure runs slow | 15:07 |
| jrwren | truth | 15:08 |
| jrwren | its sad. | 15:08 |
| brousch | you guys are depressing today | 15:11 |
| brousch | come on, buck up, power users are getting acknowledgement | 15:11 |
| rick_h__ | yea, now we can do our thing, pubuntu. Ubuntu for users that want a terminal. | 15:12 |
| rick_h__ | that's ok, I'll stick with a distro where I'm the target audience. Not where I have to target the distro to me | 15:13 |
| jrwren | i'm more ubu-server anyway | 15:13 |
| brousch | party poopers | 15:18 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: http://www.srtsolutions.com/flex-user-group-to-tackle-building-flexair-apps-for-custom-electronics | 15:20 |
| _stink_ | rick_h__: thanks! | 15:21 |
| _stink_ | ColonelPanic001 and I want to set up a 'central' git host thing here at work. anyone done this before and have advice? google gives some info but you all are smarter than google. | 15:27 |
| rick_h__ | yea, check out gitolite | 15:28 |
| rick_h__ | https://github.com/sitaramc/gitolite/wiki/ | 15:28 |
| rick_h__ | we run gitosis with gitweb, but gitolite is the successor to it | 15:28 |
| _stink_ | ok, cool. that was the way i was headed. if it gets the rick_h__ stamp of approval, i'm sold. | 15:28 |
| _stink_ | thanks. | 15:28 |
| rick_h__ | np | 15:29 |
| rick_h__ | or pay for in house github :) | 15:29 |
| rick_h__ | but my boss didn't go for that plan | 15:29 |
| _stink_ | hehe - this is stealth here at work. | 15:29 |
| _stink_ | so gotta stay off the budget :P | 15:29 |
| ColonelPanic001 | we're gunna get canned | 15:33 |
| rick_h__ | lol | 15:33 |
| ColonelPanic001 | it's like the mob. Either they'll be pleased with our self-motivated agressiveness to improve things, or we'll step on some toes and be killed. | 15:33 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I don't know which, but I do fear there are plenty of ways to dispose of a corpse in Detroit. | 15:34 |
| rick_h__ | I'll cross my fingers for you | 15:34 |
| rick_h__ | what do you use now? | 15:34 |
| ColonelPanic001 | AVENGE ME, FELLOW LINUX NERDS | 15:34 |
| ColonelPanic001 | svn | 15:34 |
| rick_h__ | git-svn is nice | 15:34 |
| rick_h__ | but yea, git ftw | 15:34 |
| ColonelPanic001 | you know, _stink_, we could just do that | 15:35 |
| brousch | oreilly sent me a pre-release ebook, but didn't tell me wtf it's for. | 15:38 |
| rick_h__ | for being awesome | 15:38 |
| ColonelPanic001 | Titles motherfracker, do you read them? | 15:38 |
| ColonelPanic001 | ;) | 15:38 |
| brousch | it's from the user group department, so i assume they want it to go to a user group | 15:38 |
| ColonelPanic001 | oh. I thought you didn't know what the book was for, as in, about. | 15:38 |
| ColonelPanic001 | nevermind. back to my corner. | 15:38 |
| brousch | Programming HTML5 Applications | 15:38 |
| ColonelPanic001 | that's what it's for. | 15:39 |
| ColonelPanic001 | send it to me | 15:39 |
| _stink_ | yeah, i use git-svn to talk to the official svn here. | 15:39 |
| wolfger | LOL @ ColonelPanic001. I thought the same thing until my brain actually engaged | 15:39 |
| brousch | I'm asking them what all i can do with it now | 15:39 |
| rick_h__ | huh? asking? | 15:39 |
| rick_h__ | it came to your door | 15:39 |
| rick_h__ | you get first dibs | 15:39 |
| brousch | they want reviewers? editors? can i send it to anyone? | 15:39 |
| rick_h__ | that's the way it works | 15:39 |
| ColonelPanic001 | they wanted you to send it to me. They just forgot my email address | 15:39 |
| brousch | well it came to my inbox | 15:40 |
| rick_h__ | they used to send me a box every couple of months I'd give away at MUYG | 15:40 |
| rick_h__ | well MUG | 15:40 |
| ColonelPanic001 | WTF. WHY DO YOU ALL GET FREE OREILLY STUFF | 15:40 |
| rick_h__ | ah, ebook, yea that's more interesting I guess | 15:40 |
| rick_h__ | ColonelPanic001: you just need to sign up your CHC as a user group and ask for some give aways | 15:40 |
| rick_h__ | :) | 15:40 |
| brousch | yeah, they have a form you fill in | 15:40 |
| ColonelPanic001 | that's not a bad idea. | 15:40 |
| rick_h__ | get on the newsletter and when they send it out ask for one or two of the new releases | 15:40 |
| rick_h__ | occassionaly email back to thank them, point to an amazon review/two and you're good | 15:41 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I will neglect to mention that Downriver CHC has two people that come 90% of the time | 15:41 |
| ColonelPanic001 | once every six months, we get a friend or someone to come. | 15:41 |
| rick_h__ | ColonelPanic001: yea, just say an active group of coders | 15:41 |
| brousch | i screwed grpug by sking for 5 copies of a giant python book. then nobody finished it or reviewed it | 15:41 |
| rick_h__ | point to the main CHC site | 15:41 |
| rick_h__ | Yea, I got lazy in asking over and over. I'm not good at requesting charity | 15:41 |
| _stink_ | scandalous! | 15:41 |
| rick_h__ | I have a mental block on asking for free stuff | 15:41 |
| rick_h__ | even have a hard time with the grocery store hand outs. "hmm, that cheese looks interesting, I'll buy a block" vs just trying the cubes they're putting out | 15:42 |
| _stink_ | hah | 15:42 |
| _stink_ | that is... strange. | 15:42 |
| rick_h__ | yea, I admit I'm strange. No doubt | 15:43 |
| ColonelPanic001 | meh, I'm not out to scam anyone, especially a company I like, but if they're handing free stuff out on the condition we review it, that's fine with me. | 15:43 |
| ColonelPanic001 | but, that's why I hesitate about registering us. It's two guys that go to a coffee shop. If there half a dozen or something, that's more obvious. | 15:43 |
| rick_h__ | ColonelPanic001: well they don't really put conditions on it | 15:43 |
| rick_h__ | but they're hoping for reviews, blog posts, amazon reviews, etc | 15:43 |
| rick_h__ | good word | 15:44 |
| ColonelPanic001 | yeah, that's only fair, really | 15:44 |
| rick_h__ | ColonelPanic001: just say for CHC | 15:44 |
| rick_h__ | link to the main site | 15:44 |
| rick_h__ | after you get some stuff, pass around for our side | 15:44 |
| ColonelPanic001 | there's already one, I expect, for CHCH | 15:44 |
| ColonelPanic001 | CHC, rather | 15:44 |
| rick_h__ | doubt it | 15:44 |
| ColonelPanic001 | "coffeehouse coders houses" | 15:44 |
| ColonelPanic001 | hm. Maybe | 15:44 |
| rick_h__ | review copies of O'Reilly products | 15:45 |
| rick_h__ | donations of books and other promo items | 15:45 |
| rick_h__ | UG member discount on all O'Reilly books and conferences | 15:45 |
| rick_h__ | see, donations | 15:45 |
| ColonelPanic001 | true enough | 15:45 |
| rick_h__ | anyway, just saying don't @#$@# about not getting free stuff. Easy enough to get | 15:45 |
| rick_h__ | :P | 15:45 |
| _stink_ | I'll start the "Adam Lincoln Tech Coder Club" and sign up | 15:45 |
| ColonelPanic001 | well, what if we just register us together as Detroit CHC, and pass it around? Realistically, Downriver is just two guys that hate the drive to Oakland County anyway, more of a small splinter group | 15:46 |
| rick_h__ | yea, it's all good man | 15:46 |
| rick_h__ | you take point and we'll back you up | 15:46 |
| ColonelPanic001 | okay, maybe later I'll do it then | 15:46 |
| brousch | ah, they are looking for reviewers | 15:57 |
| rick_h__ | krondor: can handle it. Just let him do it | 16:00 |
| * wolfger is gonna start BHC (Beer Hall Coders) | 16:02 | |
| krondor | krondor can handle what? | 16:02 |
| rick_h__ | brousch needs a book review from you :) | 16:04 |
| krondor | hmm, the book is? | 16:06 |
| brousch | Programming HTML5 Applications | 16:08 |
| brousch | I'm trying to find out how many copies I can distribute | 16:08 |
| wolfger | sideways 8 | 16:11 |
| wolfger | :-) | 16:11 |
| rick_h__ | booo, too lazy to look up the code | 16:11 |
| krondor | why not, I'll give it a shot though I'm not a web dev. I do dabble however. | 16:12 |
| brousch | rick_h__: hah, sorry http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920015116 | 16:12 |
| rick_h__ | ?? | 16:13 |
| rick_h__ | sorry because? | 16:13 |
| brousch | oh, i see, i thought you were saying you were too lazy to look up the book's url | 16:14 |
| brousch | but you were saying stink was too lazy to look up inifinity | 16:14 |
| brousch | or wolfger | 16:14 |
| brousch | is it lunch time yet? | 16:14 |
| rick_h__ | yea | 16:14 |
| _stink_ | .. | 16:14 |
| brousch | ... | 16:15 |
| wolfger | looking up infinity takes forever :-p | 16:15 |
| brousch | not a lot of chatter in #ubuntu-power-users | 16:22 |
| jrwren | none | 16:23 |
| _stink_ | what makes a "power user"? | 16:23 |
| brousch | i think jcastro scared everyone with his overview of what needs to be done | 16:23 |
| rick_h__ | do you hate unity? | 16:23 |
| rick_h__ | if so, you qualify | 16:23 |
| _stink_ | hah | 16:23 |
| brousch | crap, i don't hate it | 16:24 |
| _stink_ | what if you've never even seen it? | 16:24 |
| brousch | i find it mildly annoying, but not as annoying as kde | 16:24 |
| rick_h__ | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6061053/node-js-on-windows-when-and-why and this is why windows has a disadvantage with OSS | 16:44 |
| Milyardo_ | Whats wrong with Cygwin? | 16:52 |
| Milyardo_ | I ask because I've had co-workers reluctant to install Cygwin before when using git | 16:53 |
| rick_h__ | it's a pita and a layer they're not familiar with | 16:54 |
| Milyardo_ | So how can you contribute to Cygwin to make it less of a pita? | 16:55 |
| Milyardo_ | or will the still just have too much a unixy feel to it | 16:56 |
| Milyardo_ | for some Windows users? | 16:56 |
| Blazeix | I'm not sure it's the unixy feel that throw people off, it's just that extra layer | 17:02 |
| Blazeix | same sort of stigma against wine | 17:02 |
| tjagoda | So | 17:32 |
| tjagoda | uh | 17:32 |
| tjagoda | I kind of like Gnome 3.0 more than I like unity so far | 17:32 |
| tjagoda | Or at least the way Fedora has done it | 17:32 |
| Blazeix | what theme does Fedora use? Adwaita? | 17:37 |
| tjagoda | I am not sure | 17:43 |
| tjagoda | Running Fedora 15 live CD | 17:43 |
| tjagoda | but I love this interface | 17:43 |
| tjagoda | pretty sure this is just normal gnome 3? | 17:44 |
| tjagoda | only thing I wish for | 17:45 |
| tjagoda | is that in the upper panel they'd do the at-a-glance listing of what I have open | 17:46 |
| tjagoda | there's plenty of room for it between activities and clock | 17:46 |
| tjagoda | if they had that I would 100% love it | 17:46 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Interesting | 18:32 |
| rick_h__ | j?? | 18:33 |
| rick_h__ | oops | 18:33 |
| wolfger | Did you mean j++? ;-) | 18:33 |
| rick_h__ | :P | 18:33 |
| snap-l | re: the Flex and Arduino group | 18:35 |
| snap-l | though I couldn't give two shits about Flex or AIR | 18:35 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: yea, but figured you still might find it interesting | 18:37 |
| snap-l | yeah, no doubt. | 18:37 |
| snap-l | Thanks! :) | 18:37 |
| === Milyardo_ is now known as Milyardo | ||
| rick_h__ | there, suck it mysql. postgres setup, streaming replication to a second server with read access | 18:46 |
| rick_h__ | I'm going to kill that little @#$%#@ | 18:46 |
| _stink_ | haha | 18:47 |
| rick_h__ | man, this linkedin ipo stuff is crazy | 18:47 |
| rick_h__ | I need to start looking at business ideas and getting in on the billions | 18:48 |
| _stink_ | isn't that what bookie is for? | 18:49 |
| _stink_ | $$? | 18:49 |
| rick_h__ | yea, bookie's gotta be worth a cool mil by now right? | 18:49 |
| rick_h__ | I mean, it's simply badass, not a week's worth of work for sure | 18:49 |
| _stink_ | "potential eyeballs" | 18:50 |
| Blazeix | you can monetize it by adding 'sponsored bookmarks' | 18:50 |
| rick_h__ | yea, I just need to start adding ads on there right? Whenever you filter a tag or search, let google get in there | 18:50 |
| rick_h__ | "I know you wanted your postgres bookmarks, but wouldn't you rather hire a db admin?!" | 18:50 |
| snap-l | This is just the exuberance of the first big IPO since the bubble | 18:50 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: yea, definitely | 18:50 |
| snap-l | Give it a few weeks, and they'll be down to $3.50 a share | 18:51 |
| rick_h__ | lol | 18:51 |
| snap-l | I mean, they're pretty much not profitable, right? | 18:51 |
| rick_h__ | I thought they were | 18:52 |
| rick_h__ | bringing in some 500M or something, no idea on what.. | 18:52 |
| rick_h__ | Last quarter, the company notched $2.1 million in earnings on $93.9 million in revenue. | 18:52 |
| wolfger | just need to trim some fat and that will be a serious revenue stream | 18:59 |
| wolfger | er.... serious profit stream | 19:00 |
| wolfger | it's already a serious revenue stream | 19:00 |
| rick_h__ | darn expensive programmers | 19:00 |
| rick_h__ | man I <3 psql vs mysql | 19:01 |
| rick_h__ | command line is much nicer (or maybe I just know it more) | 19:01 |
| snap-l | I think it's a knowledge thing | 19:10 |
| snap-l | though I'm tending to agree. I think the postgresql client is a lot better | 19:11 |
| snap-l | there's a few things that I miss but they're few and far between | 19:11 |
| snap-l | mostly stuff like exports and such | 19:12 |
| rick_h__ | \d vs show tables; \x for pretty output, tab completion (not sure if you can get mysql to tab complete) | 19:12 |
| snap-l | mysql has tab complete | 19:12 |
| rick_h__ | does it? I need to find that then. I thought I went checking before | 19:12 |
| snap-l | It's kinda janky, though | 19:12 |
| snap-l | postgresql's tab complete is a lot better | 19:14 |
| rick_h__ | ah, had to add --auto-rehash to the cmd call | 19:15 |
| snap-l | I've never had to do that. You might have something turned off by default | 19:16 |
| rick_h__ | yea, see it's a server setting you can flip | 19:17 |
| rick_h__ | but I haven't changed that so must be off by deafult | 19:17 |
| snap-l | probably someone turned it off because the mysql client takes N time to start up if you enable that | 19:17 |
| snap-l | N being the number of tables, databases, etc | 19:17 |
| rick_h__ | strange, it's set that way on my localhost | 19:18 |
| rick_h__ | base mysql install | 19:18 |
| rick_h__ | maybe an arch thing, but I remember hating mysql without tab completion on ubuntu as well | 19:18 |
| snap-l | Apparently I only use the finer repos. :) | 19:18 |
| rick_h__ | I guess | 19:18 |
| snap-l | You need to stop using curmudgeon.ubuntu.com for your isos | 19:18 |
| rick_h__ | fancy mysql pants | 19:18 |
| rick_h__ | doh! | 19:19 |
| snap-l | "sane defaults are for pussies" | 19:19 |
| snap-l | "Every cycle better stand up and do pushups. No wasting cycles on some namby-pamby niceties | 19:19 |
| snap-l | Tab complete? Phooey. | 19:20 |
| rick_h__ | psh, I'm a zsh hippie, I <3 me some tab completion | 19:20 |
| snap-l | Colored terminals? I'll color your terminals. Black and white, and you'll like it. | 19:20 |
| Milyardo | In my day you had to write your own tab complete | 19:20 |
| rick_h__ | I love that how the guy at pyohio called us zsh hippies. | 19:20 |
| Milyardo | in the snow | 19:20 |
| Milyardo | uphill | 19:20 |
| snap-l | "Cloud computing? The only cloud I'd better be seeing is the servers getting the dust blown out of them by you worthless hippies" | 19:22 |
| snap-l | "Call me old fashioned, but I want to hear every cycle of those computers in the server room" | 19:22 |
| snap-l | "Dropbox? Put that on my servers, and I'll Dropkick a round house in your pants" | 19:23 |
| snap-l | "Cross me again, boy, and I'll serve you a stack of floppy disks and a room full of servers to load 'em on" | 19:26 |
| widox | whoa, getting violent in here | 19:27 |
| _stink_ | just snap-l | 19:27 |
| snap-l | ;) | 19:35 |
| Milyardo | not quite BOFH violent | 19:39 |
| rick_h__ | yay, and now my first WTF arch moment | 19:42 |
| snap-l | woo woo | 19:52 |
| rick_h__ | yea, just cranky today. No one is playing nice | 19:52 |
| brousch | you are kind of crankypants today | 20:11 |
| brousch | oh great, now it will never die: Microsoft announces to mvps at http://hootsuite.com/dashboard# that VB6 will be released as open source on codeplex end of june! w00t | 20:23 |
| snap-l | Awesome! | 20:33 |
| snap-l | Pardon me while I go get my gun to celebrate. | 20:33 |
| rick_h__ | we need to hack the registration page for downloads | 20:47 |
| rick_h__ | all downloaders will be put on hit list | 20:47 |
| brousch | rick_h__'s dream http://bagcheck.com/blog/8-bagchecking-in-the-command-line | 21:00 |
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