[00:10] <Cheri703> yeah, like 10!
[00:10] <Cheri703> was crazy!
[00:31] <canthus13> Nice...
[00:33] <paultag> :D
[01:01] <dmcglone1> Hi all
[01:02] <dmcglone1> any good news lately?
[01:12] <dmcglone1> what the hell, is everyone in bed????
[01:12] <Cheri703> hi
[01:12] <Cheri703> just got home
[01:12] <Cheri703> we had like 10 people at our ubuntu hour tonight :)
[01:12] <dmcglone1> Ah
[01:13] <dmcglone1> Nice
[01:29] <dmcglone1> gotta go put the icing on my cake now :-)
[03:04] <Cheri703> woo parental tech support -_-
[03:11] <Cheri703> Unit193: husband says "WOOO!!! FASTER!! THANK YOU!"
[03:11] <Cheri703> *he likes the processor
[03:15] <Unit193> Cheri703: That's good! What did he have?
[03:15] <Cheri703> he had a p4 2.8 (I think), so this is noticeably faster
[03:16] <Cheri703> he's practically giddy
[03:16] <Cheri703> perhaps (not likely, but I can dream) this will ease off his "I want RAM" ranting :)
[03:16] <Unit193> I would have loved to put it in one of the ones I have, but they don't support the soctet :(
[03:17] <Unit193> They also don't fit the socket
[03:17] <Cheri703> yeah
[03:17] <Unit193> I also tried to place a P3 in where there was a Celeron... didn't work...
[03:18]  * Cheri703 needs to be rich to upgrade computers and buy toys
[03:18] <Cheri703> they're pretty specific
[03:19] <Unit193> Worth a shot... I already had the processor
[03:19] <Cheri703> yeah
[03:55] <Unit193> ThePing has been in 6, 7 or 8 of my channels...
[03:58] <Cheri703> probably looking for somewhere to troll
[03:58] <Unit193> For one second?
[03:59] <canthus13> Cheri703: He's stalking you.
[04:00] <Cheri703> could be
[04:00]  * Cheri703 doesn't want to wait til tuesday for the nook announcement, wants to know NOW
[04:00] <Cheri703> (also, canthus13, did sully arrive today?)
[04:01]  * jgould wanders in
[04:02]  * jgould went to UH, discovered that you had to pay to park, realized that he didn't have enough money to pay to park and pay for coffee, and then left...
[04:03] <deejoe> got to have priorities
[04:04] <jgould> coffee over parking
[04:04] <deejoe> sure, if you can't have coffee, why bother.
[04:05] <jgould> exactly
[04:05] <Unit193> Crappy place to have U-H...
[04:07] <canthus13> Cheri703: Yup. he's here... Gotta decide where to send him next.
[04:07] <Cheri703> kk, good
[04:07] <jgould> I propose changing the location
[04:08] <jgould> on top of the pay parking thing, you have to be lucky to find a spot...
[04:12] <paultag> Cheri703: you kick so much ass
[04:12] <Cheri703> ?
[04:12] <paultag> Cheri703: really great job tonight with the ReLoCo hour
[04:12] <Cheri703> oh, well, most of them were skrappjaw's friends :)
[04:12] <paultag> I heard it was packed :)
[04:12] <Cheri703> I don't know that many people!
[04:12] <paultag> Cheri703: :)
[04:12] <paultag> Ubuntu love!
[04:13]  * Unit193 doesn't do well with lots of people :/
[04:14] <jgould> I would have been there at the columbus UH, but I didn't know about the parking issue.  Hopefully I'll make the next one.
[04:16] <Cheri703> Unit193: I thought you did fine
[04:19] <jgould> One of these days I'll make it to a UH
[04:19] <Unit193> I'm not saying I did bad...
[04:20] <Cheri703> I'm saying I don't think you seemed uncomfortable
[04:20] <Cheri703> you may have FELT uncomfortable, but you didn't come across as uncomfortable
[04:21] <deejoe> not that anyone is saying you were being deceptive . . . ;-)
[04:26]  * jgould pouts
[04:31] <jgould1> Any one know if there is a support channel for Mactel uses?
[04:31] <Cheri703> there is a #ubuntu-mactel channel
[04:32] <Cheri703> but there's only one guy in there :)
[04:33] <jgould1> Now there is two
[04:34] <Unit193> Who was the other?
[04:35] <jgould1> jpds
[04:46] <jgould_> Hmm... That didn't seem to fix it...
[04:51] <jgould> :( I think this is a sign that I need to give up for now
[05:58] <jgould1> I really wish I could get this MacBook to behave under Ubuntu
[06:10] <Cheri703> I really wish I could convince my brain to go to sleep sooner than it's going to
[06:15]  * jgould1 flips the power switch for Cheri703's brain
[06:16] <Unit193> Anyone else getting ThePing in all other channels?
[06:23] <Cheri703> blurgh
[06:23] <Cheri703> yeah, seeing him in a few
[06:52] <jgould> I solved my trackpad issue
[06:57] <jgould> Not the solution I wanted, but a workable workaround
[08:32] <BiosElement> LMAO wow
[08:32] <BiosElement> Baidu, China is being sued in the US for censorship in China
[13:05] <Derath-Srvr> Hi all
[17:39] <Derath-Srvr> Hmm... bit of instability today or what?
[17:53] <Unit193> Seems a bit like it...
[17:53] <Unit193> And howdy!
[18:01] <Derath-Srvr> How's it going Unit?
[18:02] <Unit193> Not too shabby. You?
[18:03] <Derath-Srvr> Well... getting there I guess... waiting to see what I am going to have to do about my ac unit...
[18:49] <canthus13> any ideas on killing a runaway process? (It comes up as [defunct] in ps)  kill -9 <pid> doesn't work. :/
[18:50] <Derath-Srvr> Thought -9 was the end-all be-all kill...
[18:50] <Derath-Srvr> let me check manpage
[18:51] <dniMretsaM> hi guys
[18:51] <Derath-Srvr> Only two options...
[18:51] <Derath-Srvr> Hey MM
[18:51] <Derath-Srvr> 1: Find the parent process that's holding it and kill -9 that one, or 2: restart
[19:17] <canthus13> bah. even killed the user that owned it, and it's still sucking up half my CPU... and I can't really reboot. :/
[19:17] <canthus13> Hmm. Maybe I can.
[19:17] <Unit193> I used the sudo htop method...
[19:18]  * canthus13 has tried sudo kill -9 <pid> with both the user I"m logged in as and the user that owns it to no avail... I'll try that, though.
[19:32] <canthus13> meh. that didn't work either.
[19:35] <Derath-Srvr> What process?
[19:35] <Derath-Srvr> and what's parent process?
[19:37] <canthus13> transmission...
[19:37] <canthus13> Not sure what the parent process is.
[19:37] <canthus13> doesn't show anything above it in tree view in htop.
[19:41] <Derath-Srvr> Transmission the torrent client?
[19:43] <Derath-Srvr> sigh... this sucks...
[19:43] <Derath-Srvr> my ac unit is dying again...
[19:43] <dniMretsaM> yeah, that would suck
[19:43] <Derath-Srvr> Just had the compressor and reversing value replaced last year...
[19:43] <Derath-Srvr> can't afford another $1k again...
[19:43] <dniMretsaM> time for a whole new unit
[19:44] <Derath-Srvr> Wanna give me $4k for that?
[19:44] <dniMretsaM> but yeah, they can be quite expensive
[19:44] <Derath-Srvr> Well, I'm on the old r-type as well, so they have to replace the whole system...
[19:45] <dniMretsaM> or u could move to the Antarctica. u wont need AC
[19:45] <Derath-Srvr> No, I'd need the heatpump side, which is why it's having problems now lol
[19:45] <Derath-Srvr> Need to get home and test system to see if valve is working right, might just have ac at the moment...
[19:46] <dniMretsaM> move to L.A. where it's like 72 all year round
[19:46] <Derath-Srvr> (full electric house, so ac/heat pump is same unit)
[19:46] <dniMretsaM> personally, I think it'd b awesome to live where it's 72 all the time
[19:46] <dniMretsaM> that's my fav temperature
[19:47]  * Unit193 doesn't have AC...
[19:47] <dniMretsaM> when we lived in PA we didn't hav AC. I was really happy we got a house with it when we moved out here
[19:47] <dniMretsaM> Unit, how was the Ubuntu Hour last night?
[19:51] <dniMretsaM> #ubuntu has 1752 online
[19:51] <dniMretsaM> that's a lot
[20:01] <Unit193> dniMretsaM: It didn't go badly. We had more people then ever!
[20:01] <dniMretsaM> awesome!
[20:22] <jgould> I wish I could keep my place at a temprature where I feel comfortable
[20:26] <dniMretsaM> well I g2g
[20:26] <dniMretsaM> c u peeps l8r
[21:03] <canthus13> Cheri703: Eh? You're dropping like you're in hungary again...
[21:04] <Cheri703> had to reboot desktop a few times
[21:37] <Unit193> Howdy TheErk
[21:38] <TheErk> Hola
[21:40] <Unit193> Welcome back jgould
[21:41] <jgould> thank you
[21:41] <jgould> stupid router
[21:41] <TheErk> I am not a stupid router.
[21:42] <canthus13> TheErk: You're just a special router.
[21:42] <TheErk> Helmet and all!
[21:42] <canthus13> :D
[21:47] <jgould> Heh
[21:50] <jgould> I wonder if 11.10 will work any better on this MacBook than 11.04
[21:57] <Cheri703> might try 10.10?
[21:59] <jgould> It's all drivers, Only reason that 11.10 might work better is because of updates to the drivers
[22:01] <Cheri703> kk
[22:07] <jgould> I came up with a solution for the trackpad.  Not ideal, but a solution
[22:14] <Cheri703> yeah?
[22:15] <jgould> Turn off tap clicking
[22:16] <TheErk> Does it involve paper clips and pudding?
[22:16] <jgould> Nope
[22:17]  * Cheri703 could go for some pudding
[22:18] <jgould> I'm going to give 10.10 a shot.  I'm currently running 10.04 on the server (and don't plan to change that any time soon...)
[22:19] <Cheri703> worth a shot
[22:26] <TheErk> Well.. i made it a whole month before removing evolution and gwibber.
[22:27] <TheErk> That is a record.
[22:27] <jgould> It cna't hurt anything...  Apparently a Michigan  Teenager put her 2  year old cousin on Ebay for $1000
[22:27] <Cheri703> heh, I only use evolution for the calendar...I like having my google calendars in the applet
[22:27] <TheErk> I did too, but it was causing some hela memory leaks
[22:28] <TheErk> When an apointment popped it would gobble memory.
[22:28] <TheErk> This morning the calendar was using 2.1 GIGs of memory
[22:28] <Cheri703> weird
[22:28] <jgould> thats so that you took care of your appointmet...
[22:28] <TheErk> That is INSANE
[22:31] <jgould> I hate making hamburger...
[22:31] <TheErk> Did you use holy cow?
[22:32] <jgould> Heh
[22:32] <dequire> hi all
[22:32] <Cheri703> hi dequire
[22:32] <dequire> oops 1 sec
[22:32] <TheErk> Hello dequire
[22:32] <TheErk> Ron has his own Noc?
[22:32] <jgould> Hello dequire/ronnoc
[22:32] <ronnoc> lol
[22:33] <jgould> I thought it was NOC
[22:33] <ronnoc> I keep getting knocked off of NickServ
[22:33] <jgould> that's becasue it doesn't like people having thier own NOCs
[22:33] <ronnoc> o.O well that explains it, doesn't it
[22:34] <ronnoc> Cheri703: I saw on the ML you're throwing your hat into the Ohio council - best of luck to you :)
[22:34] <Cheri703> thanks
[22:34] <Cheri703> I'll get a mini-bio posted somewhere at some point
[22:34] <ronnoc> TheErk: Yes, in fact I do have my own NOC :)
[22:35] <ronnoc> Cheri703: thatseems a little vague lol
[22:35] <ronnoc> *that seems
[22:35] <Cheri703> heh
[22:35] <Cheri703> I don't remember where I'm supposed to put it
[22:36] <jgould> umm...  on the wiki?
[22:36] <ronnoc> I would just throw it on the ML - I remember people did that before. Then they can get aggregated wherever they're supposed to go
[22:37] <jgould> ML?
[22:37] <ronnoc> mailing list
[22:37] <jgould> oh
[22:37] <ronnoc> =)
[22:37] <jgould> wow...  My MacBook is running slow
[22:42] <ronnoc> I'm going to get some yard work done - be back a bit later people
[22:43] <jgould> Yard work,  It's raining here...
[22:45] <TheErk> Is it raining men?
[22:45]  * Cheri703 wishes!
[22:46] <canthus13> heh.
[22:49] <jgould> how did you get that, Erk
[22:50] <TheErk> Get what sir?
[22:50]  * Cheri703 could be ok with a stable o' men ;)
[22:51] <jgould> that it was raining men
[22:51] <jgould> And How do you knwo I'm a sir? ;)
[22:51] <jgould> LOL Cheri703
[22:51] <TheErk> I usually go with sir.
[22:51] <TheErk> Women don't get too offended by the mistake
[22:52] <TheErk> Calling men ma'am usually starts a fight.
[22:52] <Cheri703> which is stupid
[22:52] <TheErk> I completely agree.
[22:52] <Cheri703> the WORST thing you can do is to call a man a woman -_-
[22:53] <jgould> Depends on the Man
[22:53] <Cheri703> well, in general
[22:53] <jgould> When I was growing up I'd get confused for a little girl on the phone
[22:53] <Cheri703> guys are called sissies, called girl names, etc, and it's SUCH an insult
[22:53] <Cheri703> and yet "sexism is soooo not an issue anymore" >.<
[22:55] <TheErk> Sexism and racism is alive and well in America.
[22:55] <TheErk> We just don't talk about it.
[22:55] <Cheri703> yeah
[22:55] <TheErk> Now get back in the kitchen and knit me a sweater.
[22:55] <TheErk> :-D
[22:55] <canthus13> Cheri703: I'm guilty of having told my kid to quit acting like a little girl... :/
[22:56] <canthus13> mainly when he whines over the dumbest stuff that even my 4 year old neice would blow off.
[22:56] <Cheri703> then tell him TO act like a girl!
[22:56] <Cheri703> if she's the one not getting fussy about it
[22:56] <canthus13> :)
[22:57] <Cheri703> I just hate it that "being a girl" is drilled into boys from childhood as a BAD THING
[22:57]  * Cheri703 is ranting, sorry
[22:57] <Cheri703> just...one of those things
[22:57] <canthus13> Cheri703: I never said anything about my youngest wearing dresses with his cousins... He outgrew it.  now all the girls are following him around. :)
[22:57] <Cheri703> heh
[22:57] <canthus13> I get it, generally.
[22:58] <jgould> I agree Cheri703
[22:58] <Cheri703> ted talk that is awesome and on topic: http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2010/12/my-liberation-as-man-is-tied-to-your.html
[22:58] <Cheri703> I highly recommend it to parents of boys (and people in general)
[23:00] <jgould> I hate grilling...  Too hard to get good burgers
[23:00] <TheErk> ...wha
[23:00] <TheErk> Fire
[23:00] <TheErk> Meat
[23:00] <TheErk> Done
[23:00] <TheErk> :-D
[23:06] <jgould> Geroge Foreman...  We dont own a grill
[23:07] <Cheri703> those dry stuff out SO BADLY
[23:07] <jgould> These are juicy
[23:07] <Unit193> are they cooked?
[23:08] <jgould> These ones are...  The first I had became uncooked halfway through
[23:11]  * jgould ponders ordering stickers for the MacBook from System76
[23:13] <jgould> 10.10 was a live CD as well, right?
[23:14] <Cheri703> you can have a live cd of any of them
[23:15] <canthus13> yay magic jackholes...
[23:15] <canthus13> jgould: Heh. Send pictures to steve@apple.com if you do.
[23:17] <jgould> canthus13: that would piss him off XD
[23:20] <canthus13> jgould: He'd take away your hipster card. :(
[23:20] <jgould> I have a hipster card?
[23:24] <canthus13> You have apple products...
[23:24] <canthus13> You're either hipster or elderly, and I'd hate for him to take away your AARP priveleges.
[23:25] <canthus13> (I kid... I just hate apple with a passion.. have since ~1990)
[23:36] <Unit193> ronnoc picked the wrong server...
[23:37] <jgould> I dont' get the people that hate apple for no reason
[23:39] <canthus13> jgould: I have plenty of reason. I used to have thousands of dollars invested in Apple //e equipment.  One day, apple said 'fuck you. no support. buy a mac.'  I bought a PC.
[23:40] <canthus13> A lot of apple // owners did the same, and still feel the same way.
[23:41] <jgould> that will do it