[10:26] <sveinse> In an upstart config, why would one use the "pid" stanza? It seems upstart is capable of tracking the service's PID without referring to a pid file
[10:27] <sveinse> (This is for ubuntu natty)
[11:15] <soren> I don't believe there's been a pid stanza since.. err... a very long time ago.
[11:16] <soren> Because, as you suggest, upstart keeps track of the service's pid on its own.
[23:11] <elik_work> is there any way you can control who can start/stop services through upstart?
[23:13] <Keybuk> through the dbus config
[23:14] <Keybuk> /etc/dbus-1/system.d/Upstart.conf
[23:14] <elik_work> so "start some_service" sends dbus signals, and I must allow my user to send those?
[23:15] <elik_work> under system.d directory even...
[23:16] <elik_work> I was left with the impression system.d and upstart were "competitors"
[23:24] <Keybuk> /etc/dbus-1/system.d != systemd
[23:40] <elik_work> ok, I see