| Animental | Hola! | 03:54 |
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| === ochosi_ is now known as ochosi | ||
| charlie-tca | Good morning | 14:30 |
| holstein | charlie-tca: o/ | 14:54 |
| holstein | im excited about ubuntustudio using XFCE :) | 14:55 |
| charlie-tca | holstein: I am too. I think that is a good move for ubuntustudio | 15:13 |
| holstein | agreed | 15:18 |
| holstein | we are being met with some negativity from the ubuntustudio community | 15:18 |
| ochosi | holstein: what are the main concerns? | 15:18 |
| charlie-tca | That will always be the case. There are those who still insist Ubuntu should include gnome2 in 11.10, too | 15:19 |
| holstein | change in general | 15:19 |
| charlie-tca | They don't seem to realize gnome3 is replacing gnome 2 and is a major change to it | 15:19 |
| holstein | most seem to be unaware that gnome2 is EOL | 15:19 |
| ochosi | mhm | 15:19 |
| ochosi | holstein: do you plan to switch to xfce-apps as well? (as in: replace nautilus with thunar etc.) | 15:19 |
| holstein | ochosi: thats the idea | 15:20 |
| ochosi | right | 15:20 |
| holstein | *we hope to get away with that | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | ochosi: using Xubuntu as the base instead of Ubuntu | 15:20 |
| holstein | theres no reason why we cant | 15:20 |
| holstein | i think we are checking for dependancies that might want/need nautilus | 15:20 |
| ochosi | yeah, tbh feature-wise i'm not concerned with gnome2 vs. xfce | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | As I see it, it will greatly simplify the way it is put together | 15:20 |
| holstein | or some other component that would want to pull gnome in | 15:20 |
| pleia2 | charlie-tca: so, according to the latest email from IS we can't actually use the staging site for staging our theme | 16:40 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, I saw that. Maybe I don't understand what staging is? | 16:40 |
| pleia2 | looks like we'll need to set up our own instance and do our development there :\ | 16:40 |
| pleia2 | I think *they* don't understand what staging is | 16:40 |
| charlie-tca | It seems like they are using it as a pre-approval site only, instead of a place where the user can build and play before making the site real | 16:41 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 16:41 |
| pleia2 | now both knome and I have resources to run our own, but if we knew we couldn't use staging for staging we would have done this months ago, and it's kinda annoying :) | 16:41 |
| charlie-tca | I agree. | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | It seems really backward to have to work this way | 16:42 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | I was going to try and push it, but I am afraid of losing it completely by making them angry | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | They are slow enough to respond. No point making it worse | 16:45 |
| pleia2 | agreed | 16:45 |
| pleia2 | I'll set up a test instance, but probably not today, need to get over demotivation from this disappointment first :) | 16:45 |
| charlie-tca | It is really frustrating though, since we could have built several test sites already | 16:46 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 16:46 |
| Pjotr | Hello, I'm a member of the upstream Dutch translation team for Xfce. Recently, RawChid spoke to mr_pouit about transferring critically improved Dutch translations of Xfce 4.8, to the updates of Xubuntu 11.04. | 18:33 |
| Pjotr | mr_pouit then advised to make a separate bug report on Launchpad, for each newly translated Xfce package. I've done that a week ago. mr_pouit is not here, it seems.... can somebody else inform me about the progress in this matter? :-) | 18:33 |
| micahg | Pjotr: I haven't seen the bugs, but the process would be, get the new translations in the versions in oneiric, then you can SRU them to natty | 18:34 |
| Pjotr | How can I get them in oneiric? They are now here: https://translations.xfce.org/projects/p/xfce/r/xfce-4-8/l/nl/ | 18:35 |
| charlie-tca | They will come into oneiric when we sync the packages shortly | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | Then we will push them back into natty, normally | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | By having the bugs, we won't forget them | 18:39 |
| Pjotr | OK, sounds great.... when will the next sync happen? | 18:40 |
| charlie-tca | I don't have dates, but I belioe | 18:41 |
| charlie-tca | I believe it is in progress now, so should be within a week or two | 18:41 |
| micahg | autosync is happening from Debian, so I assume Debian is packaging these new versions | 18:42 |
| charlie-tca | That's the normal route. If mr_pouit sees they are not up to date, he packages to Debian and then syncs the packages | 18:42 |
| Pjotr | charlie-tca: That's pretty quickly. And how long do you think it'll take after that, to push back the translations into natty? | 18:43 |
| charlie-tca | I don't really have a timeframe for that. | 18:44 |
| charlie-tca | Alpha1 is june 2, so the sync has to happen soon | 18:44 |
| micahg | ? what does one have to do with the otehr | 18:45 |
| Pjotr | charlie-tca: maybe you can give a rough estimate for the push back into natty? | 18:45 |
| charlie-tca | Usually want the latest stuff in the first milestone, if possible | 18:45 |
| charlie-tca | Pjotr: can't even begin to guess | 18:45 |
| micahg | is there a list of bugs? | 18:46 |
| charlie-tca | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/781039 | 18:46 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 781039 in exo (Ubuntu) "Critically improved Dutch translation available upstream" [Undecided,New] | 18:46 |
| Pjotr | micahg: I can provide it, if you have a moment... | 18:46 |
| micahg | Pjotr: or just give me your LP id name and I can see which bugs you reported :) | 18:47 |
| charlie-tca | That should have most of the packages attached | 18:47 |
| micahg | Pjotr: nm, got it | 18:47 |
| Pjotr | this is my Launchpad ID: https://launchpad.net/~computertip | 18:48 |
| micahg | so, we have 13 packages to update | 18:49 |
| Pjotr | Yup, I've been pretty busy... :P | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | :-) | 18:50 |
| micahg | so, if mr_pouit gets this into Debian, we can sync them over into Ubuntu and then get them into Natty | 18:51 |
| Pjotr | I've tried contacting mr_pouit through his Launchpad account, but received no response yet | 18:52 |
| Pjotr | I have to go now. Thanks for your answers. I trust the matter is in good hands. :-) | 18:54 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks for those bugs. | 18:55 |
| scott-work | hi charlie-tca , just wanted to make sure you were aware that ubuntu studio is strongly considering moving to xfce as the DE | 18:55 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks. Yes, and I think it would be a good move for ubuntustudio | 19:01 |
| charlie-tca | We will try to give you whatever help we can if you do it. | 19:01 |
| holstein | charlie-tca: thanks | 19:01 |
| holstein | hopefully, it can be a pooling of resources at some point | 19:03 |
| holstein | as the US team grows | 19:03 |
| charlie-tca | scott-work: I think it might be easier than trying to tie in Unity, too | 19:03 |
| scott-work | charlie-tca: i expect the same as well | 19:04 |
| scott-work | and thanks :) | 19:04 |
| charlie-tca | Good luck! Oneiric promises to be interesting either way | 19:04 |
| scott-work | charlie-tca: it certainly does, ubuntu studio has several substanital improvements in process, i hope we can sucessfully complete them | 19:56 |
| charlie-tca | As a non-leader, let me know if I can help out. Not a developer/packager, but I can do testing and bugs if you need help with them? | 19:57 |
| charlie-tca | I can't speak for Xubuntu on that, but for myself, I would be happy to lend a hand | 19:58 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: non-leader? | 19:59 |
| charlie-tca | bad words. non-leader == individually, not as Xubuntu | 19:59 |
| charlie-tca | brain still not back from UDS | 19:59 |
| scott-work | lol, thank you charlie-tca, that is very gratious of you and greatly appreciated :) | 20:04 |
| scott-work | there is discussion about getting the faenza icon set into the repos for use, but i don't know how this would look within xfce | 20:05 |
| charlie-tca | Just want help here and there | 20:05 |
| scott-work | does anyone have an opinion about it? | 20:05 |
| charlie-tca | I thought faenza was already in the universe | 20:05 |
| charlie-tca | faenza-icon-theme | 20:06 |
| charlie-tca | We looked at it for Natty, but decided it was not quite right. Elementary was a better fit. | 20:07 |
| charlie-tca | scott-work: ochosi did quite of bit of work with faenza, but is not around right now | 20:08 |
| scott-work | charlie-tca: oh! that might be really, really good then, but i'll look at elementary as well | 20:12 |
| scott-work | but it still looks like faenza might only be available in PPA :( | 20:16 |
| charlie-tca | hm, maybe I got the ppa enabled then | 20:17 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: looks like it, I can't see it in the archive | 20:18 |
| charlie-tca | edubuntu was looking at faenza too | 20:18 |
| charlie-tca | nope | 20:19 |
| charlie-tca | it is in main for natty | 20:19 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: pkg name? | 20:19 |
| charlie-tca | faenza-icon-theme | 20:19 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: nope | 20:19 |
| charlie-tca | version 0.7 | 20:19 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?search_type=source&text=faenza | 20:20 |
| charlie-tca | it shows in synaptic as component : main | 20:20 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: all PPA packages are in main (public ones at least) | 20:20 |
| charlie-tca | crap | 20:21 |
| charlie-tca | i give up. looks like I got too many ppa's now | 20:22 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: apt-cache policy foo will tell you where it's from | 20:22 |
| charlie-tca | This theme is still under development. | 20:22 |
| charlie-tca | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 20:23 |
| charlie-tca | last line for apt-cache | 20:23 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: the only source shown? | 20:23 |
| charlie-tca | no source given for it | 20:23 |
| micahg | ah, yeah, then the repo was disabled at some point or it was deleted from th erepo | 20:23 |
| charlie-tca | even better! | 20:24 |
| * micahg runs off to do various things now | 20:24 | |
| charlie-tca | I'm going hide again. This one got me | 20:24 |
| scott-work | lol, but thank you for looking :) | 21:01 |
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