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dusfSoupermanito: almost, it says i need to exit x for it to install. i have been logging out and holding ctrl+alt+f4 to bring up a tty, what should i be doing?00:03
Soupermanitopress crtl-alt-F[1-6] now and enter a tty, from there run the script, if it says it wont kill the x server kill it yourself by sudoing top and killin Xorg00:04
dusfSoupermanito: sudo top then kill xorg?00:05
Soupermanitoalso, this is how the file that i downloaded looks -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29648476 2011-05-18 19:13 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-270.41.06.run00:05
Soupermanitoin sudo you will see the PID of X you can kill it from there00:06
Soupermanitoin top i mean00:06
Soupermanitoi will reboot pretty fast tho00:06
Soupermanitoi don't remember how you can force init 200:06
Soupermanitom00se, how can you force init 2 if you are already runing x?00:07
Soupermanitoi mean, how do you kill the x server for a while00:07
m00seunplug it00:08
m00seif that doesn't work, water usually does00:08
Soupermanitounplug?00:08
SoupermanitoXD00:08
dusfSoupermanito: managed to get into a tty on boot by selecting it from ubuntu recovery mode00:18
Soupermanito:D00:19
Soupermanitogreat00:19
Soupermanitoinstalled it then?00:19
dusfwhen running the script it warned the preconfigured distrubution script failed, but i continued anyway, that cool?00:19
Soupermanitoyou should00:19
Soupermanitoif you are using it now00:19
Soupermanito:) if you can see stuff now then stuff worked00:19
dusfSoupermanito: nvidiqa server settings displays the same driver as it did before 270.41.0600:24
dusfand lspcia -k still outputs Kernel modules: nvidia, nvidia-173, nvidia-current, nouveau, nvidiafb despite my purging of it, and additional drivers still says it's in use but not active00:24
dusfSoupermanito: nvidiqa server settings displays the same driver as it did before 270.41.0600:24
Soupermanito:P00:24
Soupermanitowell you learned something by doing something completely unnesesary then00:25
Soupermanitowhat? is not active?00:25
dusflol00:25
SoupermanitoO_O00:25
dusfyup00:25
Soupermanitobut, but... it should!00:25
dusfSoupermanito: http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=12057&highlight=00:25
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Soupermanitodusf, do your modprobe blacklist still shows up the blacklisted drivers?00:28
Soupermanitoi haven't used 11.04 yet, don't know if i want to00:29
dusfSoupermanito: dude, is there anyway we can take this up tomorrow? i'm worn out and it's 12:30am here00:32
Soupermanito:)00:32
Soupermanitoim almost always here00:32
Soupermanitoexcept when im not00:32
dusfi'll find you ha00:33
dusftyvm for all the help :)00:33
Soupermanito:)00:33
Soupermanitonot a problem :D00:33
Soupermanitothats what i like to do, even when i dont really know a lot, it helps me to understand more00:33
dusfSoupermanito: pro tip: we should probably have checked if ubuntu repo's nvidia-current was the same as the one from nvidia's website :)00:34
Soupermanito;)00:35
dusfSoupermanito: do you know if people can roll back from 11.04 to 10.10? i'm just getting something to eat so not gonna do it now, just wondering00:37
Soupermanitoi dont think you could00:37
Soupermanitoyou can do a clean install of 10.10 tho00:38
dusfSoupermanito: i've done so many installs recently i'm not sure i can face another :)00:48
dusfnight bro00:48
Soupermanito:D00:49
Soupermanitois gone :P00:50
drcHuh, I thought -current was 270.41.06?00:53
pomkeHiya all :) I'm running natty with xfce installed and I think there is some unity/gnome sillyness going on that has eaten my gtk app menu bars, in unity I believe they do the osx thing and put them on the top of the screen03:04
pomkeIs there a way I can get them back?03:05
AnimentalHow do e'r'body?03:40
preechergood03:45
* Animental blinks :| ...Quiet in here...03:46
preecheryup03:46
rwwalways is. #xubuntu is a little slow03:48
* Animental has a n00b question.03:52
AnimentalQuick question: just updated my server running Xubuntu with some recent updates (still 11.04) and I can no longer connect to it using it's hostname, just IP addy. Wha happen?03:53
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Soupermanitook i want to know if i can install xfce 4.8 on xubu 10.04? it comes whit 4.6.105:14
Sysiyou can try compiling but do it without older xfce installed and you won't get support from here05:16
Soupermanito:(05:20
Soupermanitookay i wont05:20
Soupermanitoi luv you guys05:20
nit-witSoupermanito, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/xfce-48-ubuntu-1004-and-1010-ppas.html05:20
nit-witwe wuv you tooooooooo05:20
Sysii haven't heard any comments about 10.04 ppa:s, 10.10 packager just said he won't do it for 10.04 because it would have too much problems05:21
X|2man i'm really digging xubuntu on my old laptop! just blows me away it works this good on this old of a machine05:21
SoupermanitoD: but 10.04 is lts05:21
Sysithat doesn't make it better than other releases05:22
Sysiif you care about LTS stuff, consider that PPA can break system too, and they're unsupported05:22
nit-witSysi, if done correctly there should be no problems.05:22
Sysinit-wit: well otherly there propably wouldn't be any ppa:s05:23
nit-witSysi, that is just what I found,  I have upgraded desktops on xfce several times no problems. The ppa's are launchpad , your rhetoric is in line with warning but it is a warning .05:24
nit-witSysi, I have never had a problem with a ppa.05:25
SoupermanitoX|2, :D welcome to the awesome world of xfce05:26
Sysinit-wit: i generally had problems with xubuntu so i switched to fedora05:27
SoupermanitoD:05:27
nit-witSoupermanito, if you worried clone the xfce install, an extra image is the best insurance anyway.05:27
Sysi..and i gave up xfce, it's great and stable but i've kinda seen it05:28
nit-witSysi, so your exsperience =everybody elses eh.;)05:28
Sysinit-wit: hey, it worked great for two years05:28
nit-wit;)05:29
Soupermanito:P i tried lxde, but i didnt liked it05:29
Sysipanel and windowmanager setup is lacky compared to xfce05:30
nit-witI have lubuntu configured with compiz and the cube it is nice.05:30
nit-witnatty lubuntu05:30
Soupermanitoi never liked the cube thing05:30
Sysii've never like setupping compiz05:30
nit-witSoupermanito, I always y=thought it was kind of wierd but for desk top switching with a wheel click and a flp I like it.05:31
Sysii'm now using kde and gnome-shell, latter feels still a bit unfinished so i may go for kde-netbook05:32
Soupermanitoyeah, but i disable virtual desktops, i dont find them useful05:32
Sysivirtual desktops are andy if you need group of windows visible at once05:34
Sysi*handy05:34
Soupermanitonever had that need05:34
bin_bashHello. I'm using swap. Don't want to be. I forget... how can I turn it off?10:03
bin_bashI want it to use RAM first10:03
gr8m8have a look at man swapoff10:06
gr8m8basically it is just   sudo swapoff   but you are using swap for a reason10:06
TheSheepbin_bash: it uses ram first, always10:07
dusfare the ubuntu forums the best forums to post for xubuntu support?10:08
TheSheepyes10:08
bin_bashTheSheep, I know but I have 4 gigs of RAM, and I'm using half a gig, and then it switched to swap10:08
bin_bashthere's no reason for that10:08
dusfTheSheep: ty10:09
dusfbin_bash: how can you tell when it switches to swap?10:09
bin_bashdusf, i'm using conky10:09
dusfty10:10
bin_bashyep10:10
bin_bashconky is great10:10
gr8m8bin_bash:  there's stuff you can do in /etc/sysctl.conf but again you are using swap fpr a reason10:11
gr8m8s/fpr/for/10:12
bin_bashthere's plenty of RAM available10:12
gr8m8some apps use swap on purpose afaik10:12
bin_bashWhy?10:12
gr8m8...10:13
bin_bashwhat's the point10:14
gr8m8why fight it10:15
bin_bashbecause i had a lot of problems with swap crashes previously10:16
AscavasaionMy Xubuntu system will not shut down.  I select logout, then shutdown and then it gives me the startup splash screen, I then choose the shutdown option bottom right and it blanks the screen and gives me the Xubuntu logo with mouse silhouetted by the moon and goes no further.  Any ideas or pointers?10:38
bin_bashhave you tried dropping into a cli?10:40
Ascavasaionbin_bash: Nope... I thought it would just shut down for me.10:42
Ascavasaionbin_bash: I cannot do anything... Ctrl Esc, Ctrl Backspace, Ctrl F1 etc... nothing works.  It has frozen.10:43
bin_bashhow about alt-f110:44
Ascavasaionbin_bash: You know when you used to shut down Windows 95/98 on old systems you used to get a "You may now switch off" message after you had shutdown.  This is an old machine. maybe it cannot shut itself down and this is Xubuntu's way of telling you it has finished shutting down?10:47
bin_bashuh10:47
bin_bashno10:47
AscavasaionAlt F1 does nothing.10:48
bin_bashwhen you hit shutdown10:48
bin_bashand you get to the login screen10:48
bin_bashhit alt+f110:48
AscavasaionOkay, I will have to hard reboot and then try again.10:48
gr8m8try from a terminal   sudo shutdown -h now10:48
AscavasaionI know how to shutdown from command line, but this PC is for mymother and command lines and her are nota good idea.10:49
gr8m8it was just to check the shutdown process first10:50
bin_bash^10:50
AscavasaionAaaah, okay... let me try that then.10:50
AscavasaionOkay, I went into terminal emulator... then typed sudo shutdown -h now and I was given a black screen with the same xubuntu emblem with the mouth silhouetted against the moon and that is as far as it goes.10:52
gr8m8if it hangs a quick press of the power button might switch it off10:53
gr8m8"might"10:53
AscavasaionNope, I tried that.10:53
gr8m8k10:53
AscavasaionIf I press the power button quickly from the desktop then it goes into hibernation mode and I cannot get it back out of it.  If I press and hold the power button it goes off.10:54
gr8m8but try the quick press after shutdown command and it hangs10:54
gr8m8bbiab10:55
Ascavasaiongr8m8: If I do that then I get Power saving mode that I cnanot get computer out of.10:55
gr8m8Ascavasaion:  after sudo shutdown?11:39
Ascavasaionyes.11:39
gr8m8weird...11:40
gr8m8Ascavasaion:  what type of computer is it? the model11:46
AscavasaionHow do I create networking accounts in Xubuntu?  I tried the Network tool on the desktop at the top, I added a new account, entered IPs, subnet, gateway, DNS etc.  I then saved it.  How do I get it to activate that network account?12:30
dusfhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176243612:39
Ascavasaiondusf: That is not meant for me hey? hehe12:44
IledenHi! I'm using Ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop installed. When I move windows around, they leave a background color trail, which disappears after a while. This does not happen in Gnome, with or without compiz. Is there some way to ramp up acceleration or somesuch on xfce to remove this effect?12:49
TheSheepIleden: do you have xfdesktop running?12:50
IledenTheSheep: no idea. how do I tell?12:50
TheSheeptry to run it12:50
Iledenis already running12:51
TheSheepdo you have compositing enabled in window manager tweaks?12:52
IledenTheSheep: No. That fixed it. Thanks!12:52
IledenHmm, the windows move around nicely now, but I'm still getting the same weird slow window draw effect that I get on Gnome. I installed xfce on this to troubleshoot. So the problem is not with the window manager (would have gladly switched to xfce if it'd fix the issue). *sigh*12:55
IledenYou guys/gals have any idea on what could be causing this? It takes like, 1s to redraw the screen after switching workspaces - and there are only three windows...12:56
AscavasaionHow do I create networking accounts in Xubuntu?  I tried the Network tool on the desktop at the top, I added a new account, entered IPs, subnet, gateway, DNS etc.  I then saved it.  How do I get it to activate that network account?12:58
TheSheepIleden: what graphis card do you have?13:05
TheSheepAscavasaion: click on the network icon and select it from the list13:06
IledenTheSheep: Radeon HD 3650 AGP13:06
IledenTheSheep: already asking about it on #radeon too13:06
AscavasaionTheSheep: It does not appear.13:06
AscavasaionTheSheep: When I click on it it says "device not managed"13:08
TheSheepAscavasaion: did you configure it manually in /etc/network/interfaces?13:09
TheSheepAscavasaion: if you did, network manager won't touch it13:10
AscavasaionTheSheep: No, from the desk top.13:12
AscavasaionTheSheep: Thanks for the pointer... I just edited that file manually and rebooted, I am sure it will be fine now.13:14
AscavasaionTheSheep: All sorted out now :)13:22
dahaicIleden: and what driver do you use?13:44
dahaicIleden: of couse if #radeon members didn't solve it already13:45
dahaicit seems like you don't have proper drivers in use13:46
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dusfi am having a lot of problems with nvidia/jockey/wine/opengl since upgrading to 11.04, if you have time please look over http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176243614:23
netrati'm having a problem with xubuntu 11.04 restoring my previous session/windows when i log in. i've gone to settings, session and startup to make sure, automatically save session on logout, is unchecked but it does not help14:36
dahaicnetrat: did you upgraded from the 10.10?14:37
netratno it was a fresh install14:37
Sysiif you already have saved session, remove it/them: rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions14:37
netratSysi, already did that and it did not help14:38
Sysiit still opens windows? what apps14:38
charlie-tcaremove both ~/.cache and ~/.gconfd/saved_session14:39
netratcharlie-tca, okay i'll try that... be back in a few14:39
Sysii'd set it to prompt on logout and uncheck the tap, it stays like it after you've done it once14:40
netratcharlie-tca, i do not have a saved_session file, but i do have a saved_state. is that the file you are referring to?14:40
charlie-tcayes, sorry14:41
charlie-tcasession menu in 11.04 no longer has the prompt.14:42
charlie-tcayou have to right click the panel, click panel, click logout to get the prompt to save sessions now14:42
Sysialt F4 (or what you ever set it to be) gives the old prompt14:43
netratthat did not work, i deleted the saved_state and everything in ~/.cache/sessions14:43
netratwhen i just logged back in the previous programs i had running started14:43
charlie-tcadid you logout/login or restart?14:45
netratlogout/login14:46
charlie-tcaSysi: alt+F4 is kind of mean. It must first close any open app in the workspace, then it will give the prompt14:47
Sysicharlie-tca: i would never log out without closing apps :P14:48
charlie-tcaheh, I never close mine14:49
netrati delete the saved_state file while i was logged into xfce. after i logged out i went to a terminal, ctrl+alt+f1, and the saved_state file had been recreated when i logged out.... xubuntu is still saving my last session14:54
Ascavasaionwhat packages do I add with apt to get MP3s and MP4 to play in Xubuntu?14:55
charlie-tcanetrat: Did you use the session menu to logout? try deleting them, make sure all windows are closed, right click the panel, click panel, click logout, make sure save sessions is unchecked there too14:56
charlie-tcaAscavasaion: xubuntu-restricted-extras14:57
netratyes saved session is unchecked there14:57
Ascavasaioncharlie-tca: , thank you.14:57
netratcharlie-tca, and yes i used the logout button on the top right of the screen14:57
charlie-tcadid you delete it from that tty and do a restart from there?14:57
netratcharlie-tca, yes i did delete it and nothing was restored when i logged back in14:58
netratcharlie-tca, you want to try deleting the session menu and then add it back?14:58
charlie-tcaThen it should be working to not retore now, until you shutdown with windows open again14:58
charlie-tcano14:59
charlie-tcasession menu does not have the checkbox to save the session, so you have to use the logout in the panel to uncheck it now14:59
netratcharlie-tca, so i can not shutdown with windows open???14:59
charlie-tcait will automatically save the session when you do, IIRC15:00
netratcharlie-tca, so i can't disable it from saving my session?15:00
netratwhat is the save session option for then?15:01
cr0wb4rHello17:12
xrdodrxcr0wb4r, hi17:12
cr0wb4rI am having problems with blender (3d modeling program). It seems to be an ubuntu specific problem. When I open up blender 2.57 the fonts are all messed up.17:13
cr0wb4rThis only happens in Ubuntu based distros for me. Any suggestions?17:14
cr0wb4rI can provide a screen shot of what I mean if that helps.17:14
cr0wb4rhttp://i.imgur.com/JK3RL.png17:15
Sysiif you start it from terminal, do you get any errors? i assume it's installed from repositories17:16
cr0wb4rNo, the repositories have 2.49, an older version. 2.57 is the latest stable.17:17
cr0wb4rno errors just "found bundled python: /home/cr0wb4r/blender-2.57b-linux-glibc27-i686/2.57/python"17:18
cr0wb4rThat is the only output until you quit and then it displays "Blender quit"17:19
cr0wb4rI have tried disabling compositing, but that didn't help either.17:20
Sysihum, can't say without knowledge about blender font usage, you should maybe try their irc channel or #ubuntu17:20
Sysibasically stuff outside repositories is unsupported17:21
cr0wb4rWell thank you for your time Sysi.17:21
Sysisomebody here *could* know but since it isn't exactly xubuntu-related..17:22
cr0wb4rWell if anyone here does know, I would appreciate a pm if you are not suppose to discuss it in the main channel :)17:23
ochosicr0wb4r: have you tried asking in #blender?17:23
KM0201how would i go about making an icon, that would execute a terminal command when i click it?17:24
cr0wb4rno that is my next place. Main reason I asked here was because I have had no issue with it on Gentoo, Arch, or OSX.17:24
cr0wb4rKM0201, Create a launcher. In the properties box tell it the command you want it to run, and check "run in terminal".17:25
KM0201hmm, ok17:25
KM0201for some reason i thought it would be more difficult than that17:25
cr0wb4rnope :)17:26
Sysion about every other DE it is harder17:28
bios__hi is there a way to asign keyboard layout switch to a global shortkey?17:37
xubuntu634Nett hier17:49
Soupermanitooh well i floped up my nvidia drivers17:58
Soupermanitoo reinstallins seems to have fixd it but now everything looks blurry18:03
erebusHey. Can someone add jin download to launchpad? https://launchpad.net/jin http://www.jinchess.com/unix_download18:04
Soupermanitoah there, fixed it from the monitor auto setup18:04
Soupermanitoerebus, its a jar18:05
erebusSoupermanito: yeah18:06
erebusSoupermanito: its time we get this package for ubuntu18:06
Soupermanitobut its just a jar, you can download it and play it18:06
erebusSoupermanito: yeah18:06
erebusi cant get why we dont have this package18:06
erebuswith synaptic18:07
Soupermanitobecause its a jar18:07
Soupermanitoyou dont need synaptic for it18:07
Sysiso far there hasn't been interested packager18:07
erebusSysi: if i want to package it18:07
erebusSysi: how can i do it?18:08
Sysiyou'd then need to maintain it too18:08
Sysiad ubuntu developers18:08
Sysiask*18:08
lemraishguys, how do i add my synclient settings to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d folder?18:08
lemraishso that they be on startup?18:08
Sysilemraish: create file 10-synaptics.conf there and put synclient commands there (that's from archwiki, try if it works)18:10
drcSysi: I thought it was 50-synaptics.conf?18:12
lemraishSysi, thanks a lot. did it work for u?18:12
Sysiread my entire line, people18:14
TheSheepreading is hard18:16
Soupermanitoindeed18:17
lemraishSysi, sorry, log out happened. in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d there's already 50-synaptics.conf with a simple config. so i just paste synclient options here?18:20
Sysitry and see18:22
lemraishok18:22
new_kid1Hi, where does dnsmasq stores the cached name to ip records?20:06
new_kid1Already tried Google20:07
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xrdodrxis thunar slow to open for anyone else?22:16
euti've accidentally migrated my old panel configs from the last version of ubuntu, is there a way to generate new ones with the default settings?22:23
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karolWhat is command to update xubuntu in terminal??22:45
charlie-tcasudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade22:46
xrdodrxis there a xubuntu forum22:52
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