[00:03] <dusf> Soupermanito: almost, it says i need to exit x for it to install. i have been logging out and holding ctrl+alt+f4 to bring up a tty, what should i be doing?
[00:04] <Soupermanito> press crtl-alt-F[1-6] now and enter a tty, from there run the script, if it says it wont kill the x server kill it yourself by sudoing top and killin Xorg
[00:05] <dusf> Soupermanito: sudo top then kill xorg?
[00:05] <Soupermanito> also, this is how the file that i downloaded looks -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29648476 2011-05-18 19:13 NVIDIA-Linux-x86-270.41.06.run
[00:06] <Soupermanito> in sudo you will see the PID of X you can kill it from there
[00:06] <Soupermanito> in top i mean
[00:06] <Soupermanito> i will reboot pretty fast tho
[00:06] <Soupermanito> i don't remember how you can force init 2
[00:07] <Soupermanito> m00se, how can you force init 2 if you are already runing x?
[00:07] <Soupermanito> i mean, how do you kill the x server for a while
[00:08] <m00se> unplug it
[00:08] <m00se> if that doesn't work, water usually does
[00:08] <Soupermanito> unplug?
[00:08] <Soupermanito> XD
[00:18] <dusf> Soupermanito: managed to get into a tty on boot by selecting it from ubuntu recovery mode
[00:19] <Soupermanito> :D
[00:19] <Soupermanito> great
[00:19] <Soupermanito> installed it then?
[00:19] <dusf> when running the script it warned the preconfigured distrubution script failed, but i continued anyway, that cool?
[00:19] <Soupermanito> you should
[00:19] <Soupermanito> if you are using it now
[00:19] <Soupermanito> :) if you can see stuff now then stuff worked
[00:24] <dusf> Soupermanito: nvidiqa server settings displays the same driver as it did before 270.41.06
[00:24] <dusf> and lspcia -k still outputs Kernel modules: nvidia, nvidia-173, nvidia-current, nouveau, nvidiafb despite my purging of it, and additional drivers still says it's in use but not active
[00:24] <dusf> Soupermanito: nvidiqa server settings displays the same driver as it did before 270.41.06
[00:24] <Soupermanito> :P
[00:25] <Soupermanito> well you learned something by doing something completely unnesesary then
[00:25] <Soupermanito> what? is not active?
[00:25] <dusf> lol
[00:25] <Soupermanito> O_O
[00:25] <dusf> yup
[00:25] <Soupermanito> but, but... it should!
[00:25] <dusf> Soupermanito: http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=12057&highlight=
[00:28] <Soupermanito> dusf, do your modprobe blacklist still shows up the blacklisted drivers?
[00:29] <Soupermanito> i haven't used 11.04 yet, don't know if i want to
[00:32] <dusf> Soupermanito: dude, is there anyway we can take this up tomorrow? i'm worn out and it's 12:30am here
[00:32] <Soupermanito> :)
[00:32] <Soupermanito> im almost always here
[00:32] <Soupermanito> except when im not
[00:33] <dusf> i'll find you ha
[00:33] <dusf> tyvm for all the help :)
[00:33] <Soupermanito> :)
[00:33] <Soupermanito> not a problem :D
[00:33] <Soupermanito> thats what i like to do, even when i dont really know a lot, it helps me to understand more
[00:34] <dusf> Soupermanito: pro tip: we should probably have checked if ubuntu repo's nvidia-current was the same as the one from nvidia's website :)
[00:35] <Soupermanito> ;)
[00:37] <dusf> Soupermanito: do you know if people can roll back from 11.04 to 10.10? i'm just getting something to eat so not gonna do it now, just wondering
[00:37] <Soupermanito> i dont think you could
[00:38] <Soupermanito> you can do a clean install of 10.10 tho
[00:48] <dusf> Soupermanito: i've done so many installs recently i'm not sure i can face another :)
[00:48] <dusf> night bro
[00:49] <Soupermanito> :D
[00:50] <Soupermanito> is gone :P
[00:53] <drc> Huh, I thought -current was 270.41.06?
[03:04] <pomke> Hiya all :) I'm running natty with xfce installed and I think there is some unity/gnome sillyness going on that has eaten my gtk app menu bars, in unity I believe they do the osx thing and put them on the top of the screen
[03:05] <pomke> Is there a way I can get them back?
[03:40] <Animental> How do e'r'body?
[03:45] <preecher> good
[03:46]  * Animental blinks :| ...Quiet in here...
[03:46] <preecher> yup
[03:48] <rww> always is. #xubuntu is a little slow
[03:52]  * Animental has a n00b question.
[03:53] <Animental> Quick question: just updated my server running Xubuntu with some recent updates (still 11.04) and I can no longer connect to it using it's hostname, just IP addy. Wha happen?
[05:14] <Soupermanito> ok i want to know if i can install xfce 4.8 on xubu 10.04? it comes whit 4.6.1
[05:16] <Sysi> you can try compiling but do it without older xfce installed and you won't get support from here
[05:20] <Soupermanito> :(
[05:20] <Soupermanito> okay i wont
[05:20] <Soupermanito> i luv you guys
[05:20] <nit-wit> Soupermanito, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/xfce-48-ubuntu-1004-and-1010-ppas.html
[05:20] <nit-wit> we wuv you tooooooooo
[05:21] <Sysi> i haven't heard any comments about 10.04 ppa:s, 10.10 packager just said he won't do it for 10.04 because it would have too much problems
[05:21] <X|2> man i'm really digging xubuntu on my old laptop! just blows me away it works this good on this old of a machine
[05:21] <Soupermanito> D: but 10.04 is lts
[05:22] <Sysi> that doesn't make it better than other releases
[05:22] <Sysi> if you care about LTS stuff, consider that PPA can break system too, and they're unsupported
[05:22] <nit-wit> Sysi, if done correctly there should be no problems.
[05:23] <Sysi> nit-wit: well otherly there propably wouldn't be any ppa:s
[05:24] <nit-wit> Sysi, that is just what I found,  I have upgraded desktops on xfce several times no problems. The ppa's are launchpad , your rhetoric is in line with warning but it is a warning .
[05:25] <nit-wit> Sysi, I have never had a problem with a ppa.
[05:26] <Soupermanito> X|2, :D welcome to the awesome world of xfce
[05:27] <Sysi> nit-wit: i generally had problems with xubuntu so i switched to fedora
[05:27] <Soupermanito> D:
[05:27] <nit-wit> Soupermanito, if you worried clone the xfce install, an extra image is the best insurance anyway.
[05:28] <Sysi> ..and i gave up xfce, it's great and stable but i've kinda seen it
[05:28] <nit-wit> Sysi, so your exsperience =everybody elses eh.;)
[05:28] <Sysi> nit-wit: hey, it worked great for two years
[05:29] <nit-wit> ;)
[05:29] <Soupermanito> :P i tried lxde, but i didnt liked it
[05:30] <Sysi> panel and windowmanager setup is lacky compared to xfce
[05:30] <nit-wit> I have lubuntu configured with compiz and the cube it is nice.
[05:30] <nit-wit> natty lubuntu
[05:30] <Soupermanito> i never liked the cube thing
[05:30] <Sysi> i've never like setupping compiz
[05:31] <nit-wit> Soupermanito, I always y=thought it was kind of wierd but for desk top switching with a wheel click and a flp I like it.
[05:32] <Sysi> i'm now using kde and gnome-shell, latter feels still a bit unfinished so i may go for kde-netbook
[05:32] <Soupermanito> yeah, but i disable virtual desktops, i dont find them useful
[05:34] <Sysi> virtual desktops are andy if you need group of windows visible at once
[05:34] <Sysi> *handy
[05:34] <Soupermanito> never had that need
[10:03] <bin_bash> Hello. I'm using swap. Don't want to be. I forget... how can I turn it off?
[10:03] <bin_bash> I want it to use RAM first
[10:06] <gr8m8> have a look at man swapoff
[10:06] <gr8m8> basically it is just   sudo swapoff   but you are using swap for a reason
[10:07] <TheSheep> bin_bash: it uses ram first, always
[10:08] <dusf> are the ubuntu forums the best forums to post for xubuntu support?
[10:08] <TheSheep> yes
[10:08] <bin_bash> TheSheep, I know but I have 4 gigs of RAM, and I'm using half a gig, and then it switched to swap
[10:08] <bin_bash> there's no reason for that
[10:09] <dusf> TheSheep: ty
[10:09] <dusf> bin_bash: how can you tell when it switches to swap?
[10:09] <bin_bash> dusf, i'm using conky
[10:10] <dusf> ty
[10:10] <bin_bash> yep
[10:10] <bin_bash> conky is great
[10:11] <gr8m8> bin_bash:  there's stuff you can do in /etc/sysctl.conf but again you are using swap fpr a reason
[10:12] <gr8m8> s/fpr/for/
[10:12] <bin_bash> there's plenty of RAM available
[10:12] <gr8m8> some apps use swap on purpose afaik
[10:12] <bin_bash> Why?
[10:13] <gr8m8> ...
[10:14] <bin_bash> what's the point
[10:15] <gr8m8> why fight it
[10:16] <bin_bash> because i had a lot of problems with swap crashes previously
[10:38] <Ascavasaion> My Xubuntu system will not shut down.  I select logout, then shutdown and then it gives me the startup splash screen, I then choose the shutdown option bottom right and it blanks the screen and gives me the Xubuntu logo with mouse silhouetted by the moon and goes no further.  Any ideas or pointers?
[10:40] <bin_bash> have you tried dropping into a cli?
[10:42] <Ascavasaion> bin_bash: Nope... I thought it would just shut down for me.
[10:43] <Ascavasaion> bin_bash: I cannot do anything... Ctrl Esc, Ctrl Backspace, Ctrl F1 etc... nothing works.  It has frozen.
[10:44] <bin_bash> how about alt-f1
[10:47] <Ascavasaion> bin_bash: You know when you used to shut down Windows 95/98 on old systems you used to get a "You may now switch off" message after you had shutdown.  This is an old machine. maybe it cannot shut itself down and this is Xubuntu's way of telling you it has finished shutting down?
[10:47] <bin_bash> uh
[10:47] <bin_bash> no
[10:48] <Ascavasaion> Alt F1 does nothing.
[10:48] <bin_bash> when you hit shutdown
[10:48] <bin_bash> and you get to the login screen
[10:48] <bin_bash> hit alt+f1
[10:48] <Ascavasaion> Okay, I will have to hard reboot and then try again.
[10:48] <gr8m8> try from a terminal   sudo shutdown -h now
[10:49] <Ascavasaion> I know how to shutdown from command line, but this PC is for mymother and command lines and her are nota good idea.
[10:50] <gr8m8> it was just to check the shutdown process first
[10:50] <bin_bash> ^
[10:50] <Ascavasaion> Aaaah, okay... let me try that then.
[10:52] <Ascavasaion> Okay, I went into terminal emulator... then typed sudo shutdown -h now and I was given a black screen with the same xubuntu emblem with the mouth silhouetted against the moon and that is as far as it goes.
[10:53] <gr8m8> if it hangs a quick press of the power button might switch it off
[10:53] <gr8m8> "might"
[10:53] <Ascavasaion> Nope, I tried that.
[10:53] <gr8m8> k
[10:54] <Ascavasaion> If I press the power button quickly from the desktop then it goes into hibernation mode and I cannot get it back out of it.  If I press and hold the power button it goes off.
[10:54] <gr8m8> but try the quick press after shutdown command and it hangs
[10:55] <gr8m8> bbiab
[10:55] <Ascavasaion> gr8m8: If I do that then I get Power saving mode that I cnanot get computer out of.
[11:39] <gr8m8> Ascavasaion:  after sudo shutdown?
[11:39] <Ascavasaion> yes.
[11:40] <gr8m8> weird...
[11:46] <gr8m8> Ascavasaion:  what type of computer is it? the model
[12:30] <Ascavasaion> How do I create networking accounts in Xubuntu?  I tried the Network tool on the desktop at the top, I added a new account, entered IPs, subnet, gateway, DNS etc.  I then saved it.  How do I get it to activate that network account?
[12:39] <dusf> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1762436
[12:44] <Ascavasaion> dusf: That is not meant for me hey? hehe
[12:49] <Ileden> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop installed. When I move windows around, they leave a background color trail, which disappears after a while. This does not happen in Gnome, with or without compiz. Is there some way to ramp up acceleration or somesuch on xfce to remove this effect?
[12:50] <TheSheep> Ileden: do you have xfdesktop running?
[12:50] <Ileden> TheSheep: no idea. how do I tell?
[12:50] <TheSheep> try to run it
[12:51] <Ileden> is already running
[12:52] <TheSheep> do you have compositing enabled in window manager tweaks?
[12:52] <Ileden> TheSheep: No. That fixed it. Thanks!
[12:55] <Ileden> Hmm, the windows move around nicely now, but I'm still getting the same weird slow window draw effect that I get on Gnome. I installed xfce on this to troubleshoot. So the problem is not with the window manager (would have gladly switched to xfce if it'd fix the issue). *sigh*
[12:56] <Ileden> You guys/gals have any idea on what could be causing this? It takes like, 1s to redraw the screen after switching workspaces - and there are only three windows...
[12:58] <Ascavasaion> How do I create networking accounts in Xubuntu?  I tried the Network tool on the desktop at the top, I added a new account, entered IPs, subnet, gateway, DNS etc.  I then saved it.  How do I get it to activate that network account?
[13:05] <TheSheep> Ileden: what graphis card do you have?
[13:06] <TheSheep> Ascavasaion: click on the network icon and select it from the list
[13:06] <Ileden> TheSheep: Radeon HD 3650 AGP
[13:06] <Ileden> TheSheep: already asking about it on #radeon too
[13:06] <Ascavasaion> TheSheep: It does not appear.
[13:08] <Ascavasaion> TheSheep: When I click on it it says "device not managed"
[13:09] <TheSheep> Ascavasaion: did you configure it manually in /etc/network/interfaces?
[13:10] <TheSheep> Ascavasaion: if you did, network manager won't touch it
[13:12] <Ascavasaion> TheSheep: No, from the desk top.
[13:14] <Ascavasaion> TheSheep: Thanks for the pointer... I just edited that file manually and rebooted, I am sure it will be fine now.
[13:22] <Ascavasaion> TheSheep: All sorted out now :)
[13:44] <dahaic> Ileden: and what driver do you use?
[13:45] <dahaic> Ileden: of couse if #radeon members didn't solve it already
[13:46] <dahaic> it seems like you don't have proper drivers in use
[14:23] <dusf> i am having a lot of problems with nvidia/jockey/wine/opengl since upgrading to 11.04, if you have time please look over http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1762436
[14:36] <netrat> i'm having a problem with xubuntu 11.04 restoring my previous session/windows when i log in. i've gone to settings, session and startup to make sure, automatically save session on logout, is unchecked but it does not help
[14:37] <dahaic> netrat: did you upgraded from the 10.10?
[14:37] <netrat> no it was a fresh install
[14:37] <Sysi> if you already have saved session, remove it/them: rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions
[14:38] <netrat> Sysi, already did that and it did not help
[14:38] <Sysi> it still opens windows? what apps
[14:39] <charlie-tca> remove both ~/.cache and ~/.gconfd/saved_session
[14:39] <netrat> charlie-tca, okay i'll try that... be back in a few
[14:40] <Sysi> i'd set it to prompt on logout and uncheck the tap, it stays like it after you've done it once
[14:40] <netrat> charlie-tca, i do not have a saved_session file, but i do have a saved_state. is that the file you are referring to?
[14:41] <charlie-tca> yes, sorry
[14:42] <charlie-tca> session menu in 11.04 no longer has the prompt.
[14:42] <charlie-tca> you have to right click the panel, click panel, click logout to get the prompt to save sessions now
[14:43] <Sysi> alt F4 (or what you ever set it to be) gives the old prompt
[14:43] <netrat> that did not work, i deleted the saved_state and everything in ~/.cache/sessions
[14:43] <netrat> when i just logged back in the previous programs i had running started
[14:45] <charlie-tca> did you logout/login or restart?
[14:46] <netrat> logout/login
[14:47] <charlie-tca> Sysi: alt+F4 is kind of mean. It must first close any open app in the workspace, then it will give the prompt
[14:48] <Sysi> charlie-tca: i would never log out without closing apps :P
[14:49] <charlie-tca> heh, I never close mine
[14:54] <netrat> i delete the saved_state file while i was logged into xfce. after i logged out i went to a terminal, ctrl+alt+f1, and the saved_state file had been recreated when i logged out.... xubuntu is still saving my last session
[14:55] <Ascavasaion> what packages do I add with apt to get MP3s and MP4 to play in Xubuntu?
[14:56] <charlie-tca> netrat: Did you use the session menu to logout? try deleting them, make sure all windows are closed, right click the panel, click panel, click logout, make sure save sessions is unchecked there too
[14:57] <charlie-tca> Ascavasaion: xubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:57] <netrat> yes saved session is unchecked there
[14:57] <Ascavasaion> charlie-tca: , thank you.
[14:57] <netrat> charlie-tca, and yes i used the logout button on the top right of the screen
[14:57] <charlie-tca> did you delete it from that tty and do a restart from there?
[14:58] <netrat> charlie-tca, yes i did delete it and nothing was restored when i logged back in
[14:58] <netrat> charlie-tca, you want to try deleting the session menu and then add it back?
[14:58] <charlie-tca> Then it should be working to not retore now, until you shutdown with windows open again
[14:59] <charlie-tca> no
[14:59] <charlie-tca> session menu does not have the checkbox to save the session, so you have to use the logout in the panel to uncheck it now
[14:59] <netrat> charlie-tca, so i can not shutdown with windows open???
[15:00] <charlie-tca> it will automatically save the session when you do, IIRC
[15:00] <netrat> charlie-tca, so i can't disable it from saving my session?
[15:01] <netrat> what is the save session option for then?
[17:12] <cr0wb4r> Hello
[17:12] <xrdodrx> cr0wb4r, hi
[17:13] <cr0wb4r> I am having problems with blender (3d modeling program). It seems to be an ubuntu specific problem. When I open up blender 2.57 the fonts are all messed up.
[17:14] <cr0wb4r> This only happens in Ubuntu based distros for me. Any suggestions?
[17:14] <cr0wb4r> I can provide a screen shot of what I mean if that helps.
[17:15] <cr0wb4r> http://i.imgur.com/JK3RL.png
[17:16] <Sysi> if you start it from terminal, do you get any errors? i assume it's installed from repositories
[17:17] <cr0wb4r> No, the repositories have 2.49, an older version. 2.57 is the latest stable.
[17:18] <cr0wb4r> no errors just "found bundled python: /home/cr0wb4r/blender-2.57b-linux-glibc27-i686/2.57/python"
[17:19] <cr0wb4r> That is the only output until you quit and then it displays "Blender quit"
[17:20] <cr0wb4r> I have tried disabling compositing, but that didn't help either.
[17:20] <Sysi> hum, can't say without knowledge about blender font usage, you should maybe try their irc channel or #ubuntu
[17:21] <Sysi> basically stuff outside repositories is unsupported
[17:21] <cr0wb4r> Well thank you for your time Sysi.
[17:22] <Sysi> somebody here *could* know but since it isn't exactly xubuntu-related..
[17:23] <cr0wb4r> Well if anyone here does know, I would appreciate a pm if you are not suppose to discuss it in the main channel :)
[17:23] <ochosi> cr0wb4r: have you tried asking in #blender?
[17:24] <KM0201> how would i go about making an icon, that would execute a terminal command when i click it?
[17:24] <cr0wb4r> no that is my next place. Main reason I asked here was because I have had no issue with it on Gentoo, Arch, or OSX.
[17:25] <cr0wb4r> KM0201, Create a launcher. In the properties box tell it the command you want it to run, and check "run in terminal".
[17:25] <KM0201> hmm, ok
[17:25] <KM0201> for some reason i thought it would be more difficult than that
[17:26] <cr0wb4r> nope :)
[17:28] <Sysi> on about every other DE it is harder
[17:37] <bios__> hi is there a way to asign keyboard layout switch to a global shortkey?
[17:49] <xubuntu634> Nett hier
[17:58] <Soupermanito> oh well i floped up my nvidia drivers
[18:03] <Soupermanito> o reinstallins seems to have fixd it but now everything looks blurry
[18:04] <erebus> Hey. Can someone add jin download to launchpad? https://launchpad.net/jin http://www.jinchess.com/unix_download
[18:04] <Soupermanito> ah there, fixed it from the monitor auto setup
[18:05] <Soupermanito> erebus, its a jar
[18:06] <erebus> Soupermanito: yeah
[18:06] <erebus> Soupermanito: its time we get this package for ubuntu
[18:06] <Soupermanito> but its just a jar, you can download it and play it
[18:06] <erebus> Soupermanito: yeah
[18:06] <erebus> i cant get why we dont have this package
[18:07] <erebus> with synaptic
[18:07] <Soupermanito> because its a jar
[18:07] <Soupermanito> you dont need synaptic for it
[18:07] <Sysi> so far there hasn't been interested packager
[18:07] <erebus> Sysi: if i want to package it
[18:08] <erebus> Sysi: how can i do it?
[18:08] <Sysi> you'd then need to maintain it too
[18:08] <Sysi> ad ubuntu developers
[18:08] <Sysi> ask*
[18:08] <lemraish> guys, how do i add my synclient settings to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d folder?
[18:08] <lemraish> so that they be on startup?
[18:10] <Sysi> lemraish: create file 10-synaptics.conf there and put synclient commands there (that's from archwiki, try if it works)
[18:12] <drc> Sysi: I thought it was 50-synaptics.conf?
[18:12] <lemraish> Sysi, thanks a lot. did it work for u?
[18:14] <Sysi> read my entire line, people
[18:16] <TheSheep> reading is hard
[18:17] <Soupermanito> indeed
[18:20] <lemraish> Sysi, sorry, log out happened. in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d there's already 50-synaptics.conf with a simple config. so i just paste synclient options here?
[18:22] <Sysi> try and see
[18:22] <lemraish> ok
[20:06] <new_kid1> Hi, where does dnsmasq stores the cached name to ip records?
[20:07] <new_kid1> Already tried Google
[22:16] <xrdodrx> is thunar slow to open for anyone else?
[22:23] <eut> i've accidentally migrated my old panel configs from the last version of ubuntu, is there a way to generate new ones with the default settings?
[22:45] <karol> What is command to update xubuntu in terminal??
[22:46] <charlie-tca> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:52] <xrdodrx> is there a xubuntu forum