[00:09] <DarkwingDuck> Well, that went well.
[01:02] <afiestas> hey, does anybody have a QtWebkit 2.2 package?
[01:53] <JontheEchidna> agateau: http://i.imgur.com/f2ooT.png
[01:57] <JontheEchidna> agateau, even better: http://i.imgur.com/Rh5nu.png
[01:59] <Daskreech> JontheEchidna: nice
[01:59]  * afiestas is compiling QtWebkit 2.2 finally
[02:14] <JontheEchidna> agateau: this was the best I could think of for the "multiple apps installed" case: http://i.imgur.com/SDxYi.png
[02:30] <JontheEchidna> man, this widget is just so neat
[02:30] <JontheEchidna> it
[02:30] <JontheEchidna> it's all animate-y
[02:30] <JontheEchidna> good job agateau
[02:38] <JontheEchidna> (and yes, I did remember to add the "..." to the string that opens the other dialog)
[06:55] <micahg> apachelogger: would you happen to be around?
[07:24] <micahg> ScottK: or apachelogger could you look at this pastebin: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jy40iYg5, apparently there are some dependency issues in maverick WRT the SRU (seems some stuff didn't get updated)
[11:16] <apachelogger> micahg, ScottK: what is weird about this is that all that plunder is built from kdelibs, so I do not quite understand how the versions can diverge
[11:16]  * apachelogger makes some coffee
[12:12] <apachelogger> micahg, ScottK: IMHO that either was a slip up with the mirror, or unsupported packages installed
[12:12] <apachelogger> + aptitude is not a supported way of doing anything anyway
[12:12] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/610548/
[12:13] <apachelogger> current libknewstuff2-4 from pl.archive maverick i386 
[12:33] <ScottK> micahg: My vote is hung mirror only partly updated.
[12:48]  * apachelogger pokes rbelem about pictures of kubuntu mobile on n900 ^^
[12:51] <apachelogger> ScottK, afiestas: I sent you feedback requests regarding my embedded sneak peak blog post, would be cool if you could take a look at it when you got a minute
[12:51] <apachelogger> Lol "The poll will start on Sunday 21 May. "
[12:51]  * apachelogger giggles
[12:51] <apachelogger> ScottK: do you know how the poll system works yet?
[12:52] <ScottK> No.  On my TODO.
[12:52] <apachelogger> kk
[12:52] <ScottK> I probably ought to figure that out.
[12:55] <ScottK> apachelogger: Feedback sent.
[12:56] <apachelogger> ScottK: I got hardware :P
[12:56] <ScottK> Right.
[12:56] <ScottK> More people with hardware would be good.
[12:57] <apachelogger> sure, just saying, at the very least I can spend all my waking time trying to get a kernel going ^^
[12:57] <apachelogger> ScottK: otherwise the read is buzzy enough?
[12:57] <afiestas> apachelogger: I will have to answer tonight, got an event now
[12:58] <apachelogger> sure, rbelem needs to get me some pics before publishing anyway ^^
[12:58] <ScottK> apachelogger: As long as you can stand behind the first stable release thing.
[12:58] <ScottK> That will take some work and you only get so much out of rbelem between naps.
[12:59] <apachelogger> ^^
[12:59] <apachelogger> lol
[12:59] <apachelogger> worst case: apachelogger needs to find himself minions again 
[12:59] <ScottK> minions, by definition, need molding and forming so don't wait for the last moment.
[12:59] <apachelogger> daring announcements, no question, but I believe we can pull this off
[13:01] <ScottK> BTW, if I vanish asac's latest ntrack patch was bad.
[13:01] <apachelogger> ScottK: how so?
[13:01] <apachelogger> I mean he commented that it was not complete and stuff
[13:02] <ScottK> Doesn't stop crazy people from building it in their PPA.
[13:02] <ScottK> Crazy person being me at the moment.
[13:11] <ScottK> Quintasan_: Did you merge cnd's fix of your Qt mess?
[13:23] <apachelogger> surely out drinking he is
[13:30] <rbelem> apachelogger, oh! i completely forgot :-( i'm dd'ing the image to the sd
[13:44] <Quintasan_> ScottK: no idea, I didn't do any mess in Qt
[13:45] <ScottK> Quintasan_: apachelogger ping'ed you about this yesterday.
[13:45] <apachelogger> Quintasan_: https://code.launchpad.net/~chasedouglas/qt/fix-patch-removal/+merge/61668/
[13:45] <apachelogger> you should be reading your mails :P
[13:45] <apachelogger> ...said the man who reads 5 mails per month ^^
[13:45] <Quintasan_> Any work has to wait until I am do with school
[13:46] <Quintasan_> No other way around it
[13:46]  * apachelogger curses eduction to not provide time to work on free software and shape the future of modern society
[13:46] <Quintasan_> lol
[13:53] <padams> apachelogger: just quit the education! ;)
[13:54] <apachelogger> not an unattractive idea
[14:03] <Quintasan> urgh
[14:03] <Quintasan> I really messed up with that patch removal @_@
[14:11] <ScottK> Almost shadeslayer like lack of attention to detail.
[14:24] <apachelogger> ScottK: at least Quintasan doesn't have exams all the time, so he can fix stuff
[14:24] <ScottK> True.
[14:25] <ScottK> He can also stay upright when carrying his laptop.
[14:25] <ScottK> Quintasan: You didn't get to see this behemoth laptop that shadeslayer had in Orlando.
[14:28] <apachelogger> http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072221079_M77ku-A-LB
[14:28] <apachelogger> hm
[14:28] <apachelogger> that photo is all weird
[14:30] <ScottK> Right.  Because he's got the backpack on the left shoulder and is holding the laptop on the right and so they almost balance out.
[14:30] <apachelogger> oh, yeah, just thought the same thing
[14:30] <ScottK> That may be the one time all of UDS he was straight and level.
[14:30] <apachelogger> also the angle is weird, the thing almost looks small
[14:31] <apachelogger> valorie: also I cannot reproduce how you did not find me on the uds-o group pic seeing as I was the only person with a blue lanyard :P
[14:33] <ScottK> She was probably looking for the mouse princess hat.
[14:33] <ScottK> That's not something one can easily forget.
[14:39] <apachelogger> yeah, well, I'd have loved to wear a fez
[14:39] <apachelogger> but since jr failed to bring them and the whole team failed to find fezes in budapest... :/
[14:52] <rbelem> apachelogger, i'm having some problems to get the rootfs and i found this link http://www.andremiller.net/content/mounting-hard-disk-image-including-partitions-using-linux
[14:53] <rbelem> apachelogger, in some min will i have the picture
[14:53] <apachelogger> we could just fake the picture if all fails ^^
[14:53] <rbelem> ehehehe
[14:53] <rbelem> :-)
[14:53] <rbelem> apachelogger, it will work now :-)
[15:01] <eMyller> hey ScottK
[15:02] <ScottK> apachelogger: That seems evidence you may have hit the not widely known double Ballmer's peak where the evil really kicks in.
[15:02] <ScottK> Hello eMyller
[15:02] <eMyller> have you pushed new ntrack stuff to your ppa?
[15:03] <ScottK> I did.
[15:03] <ScottK> It's asac's enhanced patch.
[15:03] <ScottK> He thinks there's some risk the first patch might leave one in a state where they can't reconnect to the VPN without first disconnecting/reconnecting networking.
[15:04] <eMyller> cool
[15:05] <eMyller> there's just something for mobile connection become perfect
[15:05] <eMyller> do you have any idea why, when the connection dies, i can't connect until i remove/reattach the modem or restart modem-manager?
[15:05] <ScottK> Even with the new patch?
[15:06] <eMyller> yesterday's?
[15:06] <ScottK> (which is an obscure way of saying "no")
[15:06] <ScottK> Yes.
[15:06] <eMyller> actually this problem is a bit old, very far before this ntrack issue
[15:06] <ScottK> No idea then.
[15:07] <eMyller> hm, actually i must wait for the connection to die for some reason so i can see :P
[15:07] <ScottK> OK.
[15:07] <eMyller> but well
[15:08] <eMyller> removing/reattaching the modem isn't so annoying.
[15:12]  * apachelogger thinks he should document his superior callgrind command somewhere
[15:25] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/i957K.png
[15:25]  * apachelogger is professional ui faker now
[15:25]  * apachelogger applies for canonical design team
[15:27] <apachelogger> actually, you'd imagine that sorta stuff to be easy
[15:27] <apachelogger> yet it is not
[15:34] <ScottK> apachelogger: You aren't qualified for the design team unless you used proprietary tools to do your UI faking.
[15:35] <apachelogger> meh
[15:35] <apachelogger> there goes my job opporunity
[15:57] <micahg> apachelogger: k, weird, when I checked last night, there seemed to me something missing
[16:02] <ScottK> micahg: Sometimes mirrors don't fully update for awhile.  That seems to be what had happened.
[16:03]  * ScottK does wonder though why you're using a Polish mirror?
[16:06] <micahg> ScottK: was the SRU just released?
[16:07] <ScottK> It was released just before Natty.
[16:07] <ScottK> So not 'just'.
[16:23] <bambee> afternoon
[17:21] <shadeslayer> oh hai
[17:33] <ScottK> apachelogger: Your minion is degrading.  He's down to lolspeak now.
[17:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: fix your language engine http://www.learnenglish.de/improvepage.htm
[17:35] <shadeslayer> :S
[17:36] <shadeslayer> that page keeps opening a popup
[17:37] <apachelogger> let us start easy
[17:37] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://www.5min.com/Video/English-in-30-Seconds-Colors-199653293
[17:37] <apachelogger> colors
[17:37] <shadeslayer> colors
[17:37] <shadeslayer> erm no
[17:37] <shadeslayer> i meant colours
[17:39] <bambee> o_O
[17:39] <shadeslayer> bah ... i just wrote pad.lv/u/colors
[17:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: get out of my brain
[17:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw kamoso builds just fine without libvlc-dev ... but i've yet to install and test it ...
[17:43]  * apachelogger waits
[17:44] <Quintasan> apachelogger: wait wait all year long
[17:44] <shadeslayer> nah ...
[17:44] <shadeslayer> just a couple of weeks :P
[17:45]  * apachelogger yawns
[17:48] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Are you packaging newer kamoso or something like that?
[17:48] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: did that already
[17:48] <shadeslayer> its in backports as well by now
[17:48] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: file a MIR for it then
[17:49] <shadeslayer> sure, let me finish merging avogadro
[17:49] <shadeslayer> i don't feel like studying right now anyways
[17:49] <apachelogger> nonono
[17:49] <apachelogger> FIRST you do libvlc-dev build dep dropping
[17:50] <apachelogger> because that currently makes kamoso FTBFS on arm
[17:50] <apachelogger> then you do avogadro
[17:50] <apachelogger> then you file MIR
[17:50] <shadeslayer> avogadro is nearly done :P
[17:50] <shadeslayer> okay lemme scp the deb
[17:50] <apachelogger> ...
[17:50] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I marked MIR as WIP by you on Todo
[17:50]  * Quintasan goes to testing BackInTime
[17:51] <shadeslayer> sure
[17:51] <bambee> kde 4.7 is delayed ? I don't find tarballs on ktown :\
[17:51] <bambee> I mean 4.7 beta1
[17:51] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Shouldn't PolicyKit pick the current user when asking for password for sudo?
[17:51] <apachelogger> let's do the time-warp again.
[17:52] <apachelogger> it's just a jump to the left...
[17:52] <apachelogger> Quintasan: perhaps
[17:52] <Quintasan> it doesn't
[17:52] <apachelogger> blame upstream
[17:52] <apachelogger> ...and then a step to the right...
[17:53] <shadeslayer> omg i'm green
[17:53] <shadeslayer> okay better now
[17:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: works fine without libvlc
[17:54] <apachelogger> patchy patchy patchy
[17:54] <eMyller> ...so the world ends tomorrow
[17:54] <eMyller> i'm pleased to have met you all, fellows.
[17:54] <eMyller> lol
[17:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah will send you a debdiff
[17:55]  * apachelogger adds nice picture to kubuntu mobile n900 page
[17:55] <shadeslayer> wait a minute
[17:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i can haz access to a ARM box?
[17:56] <apachelogger> no
[17:56] <shadeslayer> need to build avogadro
[17:56] <shadeslayer> :(
[17:56] <jussi> bah, no JR
[17:56] <apachelogger> only kubuntu developers get access to them
[17:56] <apachelogger> oh jussi!
[17:56] <jussi> apachelogger: !
[17:57] <apachelogger> jussi: do you haz time to read an important document?
[17:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i just need to test out a build
[17:57] <jussi> apachelogger: which doc? 
[17:57] <jussi> apachelogger: and I always have time for you...
[17:57] <jussi> :D
[17:58] <davmor2> shadeslayer: just get any box and put it over your wrist you then have an arm box
[17:58] <apachelogger> roflz
[17:58] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[17:58] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you can give me the plunder and I can build
[17:59] <shadeslayer> my arm would probably be ripped off if i strap my laptop/desktop to my wrist
[17:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: build avogadro from debian
[17:59] <shadeslayer> no modifications necessary
[17:59] <Quintasan> apachelogger: How do I submit my results with BackInTime?
[18:00] <apachelogger> Quintasan: research you mean?
[18:00] <Quintasan> well
[18:00] <Quintasan> I'm already done with it
[18:01] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: url
[18:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: uh .. pull-debian-sources avogadro ?
[18:01] <apachelogger> Quintasan: just write down your findings and send it to kubuntu-devel for discussion
[18:01] <Quintasan> k
[18:01] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I am not entirely sure we have pull-debian-source on the arm
[18:01] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: What do you want to build on ARM?
[18:01] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: avogadro
[18:02] <Quintasan> apachelogger: are you going to do it?
[18:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/avogadro/avogadro_1.0.3-1.dsc
[18:02] <apachelogger> ScottK: are you building something on the arms?
[18:03] <shadeslayer> someone from linaro disabled it on the last upload, want to check if it builds now
[18:03] <ScottK> apachelogger: No.
[18:03] <apachelogger> oh
[18:03] <apachelogger> debfx: maybe you?
[18:03] <apachelogger> someone definitely is dropped to shell in a pbuilder
[18:03] <shadeslayer> i should apply for kubuntu dev in the next meeting 
[18:03] <Quintasan> yeah
[18:03] <ScottK> Cpu(s):  2.6%us,  2.6%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id, 94.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.7%si,  0.0%st
[18:03]  * jussi prods apachelogger
[18:03] <ScottK> Looks not very busy.
[18:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you should do something first
[18:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i'm doing something now
[18:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: looking at the tasks
[18:04] <shadeslayer> i did stuff earlier
[18:04] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Are you going to build it for shadeslayer?
[18:04] <apachelogger> also feels kinda slow
[18:04] <apachelogger> might be network though
[18:04] <jussi> apachelogger: we should make shadeslayer package blink :P
[18:04] <Quintasan> I see
[18:04] <shadeslayer> blink?
[18:04] <shadeslayer> that im client?
[18:04] <ScottK> apachelogger: It's jr
[18:04] <shadeslayer> because i'm reading a book titled Blink
[18:04] <jussi> voip client
[18:04] <Quintasan> SIP client
[18:04] <shadeslayer> ah righto
[18:05] <jussi> icanblink.com
[18:05] <shadeslayer> yep it
[18:05]  * Quintasan wonders why people mark that as needing work
[18:05] <apachelogger> ScottK: I also see debfx having a buildpackage stuck for mumble
[18:05] <shadeslayer> *yep it's in my history
[18:05] <ScottK> It looks like I may have something stuck in there too.
[18:05] <apachelogger> ScottK: maybe we can reboot?
[18:05] <Quintasan> The packaging is already there. Just "reuse" it and make sure we can have it in archive
[18:05] <apachelogger> update and reboot
[18:05] <apachelogger> ScottK: uptime 106 days :D
[18:05] <ScottK> No need.
[18:06] <ScottK> Mine is going in screen, I can kill it.
[18:06] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: for blink ?
[18:06] <ScottK> It was gdb'ing the apt armel segfault.
[18:07] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: yes
[18:07] <shadeslayer> will investigate
[18:07] <jussi> shadeslayer: you will get major kudo's from me if you get blink in the archive... I might even send you something nice
[18:07] <shadeslayer> hahaha :D
[18:07] <Quintasan> We need two packages, python-sipsimple and blink
[18:07] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ^
[18:08] <Quintasan> both are provided by upstream's Debian repository
[18:08] <shadeslayer> herp derp ... you just added python to the equation
[18:08] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: the problem is that you will have to repackage the source
[18:08] <shadeslayer> repackage the what
[18:09] <jussi> shadeslayer: k/ubuntu and python go hand in hand...
[18:09] <shadeslayer> why can't we use whats provided?
[18:09] <Quintasan> because upstream uses darc instead of something sensible and has debian/ inside the source
[18:09] <shadeslayer> >.>
[18:09] <Quintasan> and policy is to "ignore" upstreams packaging
[18:09] <shadeslayer> erk
[18:09] <shadeslayer> who made https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Todo/Oneiric immutable ?
[18:09] <Quintasan> which means you can *cough*re-format and reuse it*cough*
[18:09] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ^
[18:10] <shadeslayer> heh
[18:10] <shadeslayer> will looksie
[18:10] <Quintasan> But I would look at the license first
[18:10] <Quintasan> ...
[18:10] <shadeslayer> oh look
[18:10] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: why did you remove yourself from MIR for Kamoso?
[18:10] <shadeslayer> i didn't
[18:10] <Quintasan> lol
[18:11] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i was going to add myseldf
[18:11] <shadeslayer> -d
[18:11] <Quintasan> I'll do that
[18:11] <shadeslayer> then i see someone already did that
[18:11] <Quintasan> now
[18:11] <Quintasan> done
[18:12] <ScottK> Quintasan: You're allowed to look at upstream's packaging and reuse it if it doesn't suck, but that almost never happens.
[18:12] <Quintasan> ScottK: That one looked acceptable
[18:12] <ScottK> It does happen.
[18:12] <Quintasan> rm changelog and you are good to go IMO
[18:12] <Quintasan> Though it was just a superficial research
[18:13] <shadeslayer> rofl python-numpy
[18:13] <ScottK> Numpy rocks.
[18:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: did you try that build?
[18:14] <ScottK> It's a bit over complex for a lot of things that people use it for.
[18:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did you give me a url yet?
[18:15] <shadeslayer> yup
[18:16] <apachelogger> ah there
[18:16] <shadeslayer> [22:32:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/avogadro/avogadro_1.0.3-1.dsc
[18:16] <apachelogger> got lost in that highlight wall up there
[18:16] <ScottK> That or shadeslayer got lost in a telepathy haze.
[18:17] <shadeslayer> ...
[18:18] <shadeslayer> i think there's actually something called telepathy haze :P
[18:18]  * ScottK guesses it's an early Alpha release that doesn't actually do much.
[18:18] <ScottK> Of course that's a safe bet given  the topic.
[18:19] <shadeslayer> well ... thats what they're going to label the first release anyways 
[18:19] <apachelogger> ScottK: are you also not building anything anywhere else?
[18:19] <ScottK> Nope.
[18:19] <apachelogger> cause there is a g++ instance running
[18:19] <shadeslayer> one-eye-rick is busted
[18:19] <apachelogger> and it does not go away, also does not seem to cause load
[18:19] <apachelogger> WTF
[18:19] <ScottK> Weird.
[18:20] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the package itself might not build
[18:20] <shadeslayer> deps are quite unsatisfied
[18:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what?
[18:20] <shadeslayer>   cpp-4.6: Depends: gcc-4.6-base (= 4.6.0-6ubuntu1) but 4.6.0-7ubuntu1 is to be installed.
[18:20] <apachelogger> why am I testbuilding then?!
[18:20] <ScottK> apachelogger: debfx's mumble build is still going, AFAICT.
[18:21] <shadeslayer> i just saw that error
[18:21] <apachelogger> I think there is something defunct there
[18:21] <shadeslayer> i thought the build was going on and then switched to checking Kamoso
[18:21] <apachelogger> why would the g++ be stuck there but not cause any load
[18:22] <ScottK> Dunno, but rebooting that box is a PITA because I always have to do some manual magic that I can never remember from one time to the next to get it mount /var/cache
[18:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/05/google-summer-of-code-where-are.html
[18:22] <apachelogger> uhh
[18:22] <apachelogger> ScottK: not in your bash history?
[18:23] <ScottK> Might be.
[18:23] <apachelogger> I mean, I dunno
[18:23] <apachelogger> ScottK: does it feel slow to you?
[18:23] <ScottK> No
[18:23] <apachelogger> ok
[18:23] <apachelogger> must be the network then
[18:23] <apachelogger> rather sluggish for me ^^
[18:24] <ScottK> Good point about the bash history.
[18:25] <apachelogger> ScottK: whati is the magic? maybe I can turn it into something automated
[18:25] <ScottK> I do sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sdb and then suddenly it knows all about /dev/sdb and can mount the partition.
[18:25] <apachelogger> weird
[18:25] <ScottK> Before I do that it sees /dev/sdb itself, but none of the partitions.
[18:25] <apachelogger> ScottK: well, should be easy enough to turn that into an upstart or init job
[18:26] <ScottK> I really need to redo all these devices with Natty.
[18:26] <shadeslayer> O_O
[18:26] <shadeslayer> kamoso isn't in debian?
[18:26] <apachelogger> ScottK: that would be even better
[18:26] <ScottK> NCommander is going to teach me how.
[18:26] <apachelogger> ScottK: btw, mpoirer will start on the new n900 kernel this weekend
[18:27] <ScottK> Great.
[18:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: bug 712534
[18:39] <Quintasan> WTF AMAROK
[18:39]  * Quintasan goes to Tomahawk
[18:40] <apachelogger> amarok--
[18:40] <apachelogger> tomahawk++
[18:40] <apachelogger> phonon--
[18:40] <apachelogger> phononfive++
[18:40] <shadeslayer> hehe
[18:40] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: where is the diff?
[18:40] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: does tomahawk even build right now?
[18:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah one sec
[18:41] <Quintasan> no idea
[18:41] <apachelogger> ah, that report was from someone else
[18:41] <Quintasan> but Amarok refuses to play my FLAC files for apparently no reason
[18:41] <Quintasan> most of them work but some dont
[18:41] <apachelogger> might be gstreamer actually
[18:42] <apachelogger> rbelem: picture? :P
[18:42] <rbelem> apachelogger, almost there
[18:43] <apachelogger> hehe
[18:43] <rbelem> :-D
[18:43] <apachelogger> rbelem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/n900 <-- look I put a nice picture there :D
[18:43] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: ping
[18:44] <rbelem> apachelogger, hahahaah!
[18:45] <ScottK> agateau: This is your Qt SRU verification ping ....
[18:46] <rbelem> apachelogger, it is stopped in load fallback graphics devices
[18:46] <apachelogger> rbelem: are you sure that it is not simply very slow?
[18:47] <apachelogger> though I never saw that message I believe
[18:47] <rbelem> apachelogger, yup
[18:47] <apachelogger> hm
[18:47] <shadeslayer> debdiff doesn't show any changes
[18:47] <apachelogger> rbelem: are you on oneiric?
[18:47] <jussi> Quintasan: last I heard tomahawk had similar issues
[18:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: then you are diffing the wrong dscs or you corrupted the original one
[18:47] <jussi> stops flac before the end
[18:47] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:47] <apachelogger> jussi: more like phonon
[18:48] <Quintasan> jussi: well, amarok says "there are too many errors on the playlist"
[18:48] <rbelem> apachelogger, ǹatty
[18:48] <jussi> apachelogger: ok
[18:48] <apachelogger> there is some unique awfulness to the current streaming design
[18:48] <Quintasan> and refuses to play them
[18:48] <rbelem> natty
[18:48] <apachelogger> makes me wanna puke everytime I look at it
[18:48] <apachelogger> rbelem: odd, without sgx?
[18:48] <shadeslayer> yeah
[18:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: original was corrupted
[18:48] <rbelem> yup
[18:48] <apachelogger> maybe you need to install the omapfb driver
[18:49] <rbelem> hum...
[18:49] <rbelem> i will try that
[18:49] <Quintasan> Tomhawk just played it
[18:49] <Quintasan> no problems
[18:50] <shadeslayer> bug 712534 , if someone could now patch the package and upload it :)
[18:53] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: Package: kamoso
[18:53] <apachelogger> Architecture: any
[18:53] <apachelogger> Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, vlc, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base,
[18:53] <apachelogger>  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, gstreamer0.10-x
[18:53] <apachelogger> patch is incomplete
[18:53] <shadeslayer> derp
[18:54] <shadeslayer> btw how do i go about a MIR when kamoso isn't in debian?
[18:54]  * Quintasan considers switching to pbuilder-dist
[18:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fixored
[18:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: changelog is no insufficient
[18:59] <shadeslayer> what... why?
[18:59] <Quintasan> amarok == bloat
[18:59] <Quintasan> tomahawk == unstable
[18:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer:   * Remove libvlc-dev from build depends (LP: #712534)
[18:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: if they need more info, they can look at the bug
[18:59] <Quintasan> WHY WE CAN'T HAVE A NICE MUSIC LIBRARY APP?
[19:00] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: Clementine ?
[19:00] <Quintasan> I said nice
[19:00] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did you really just say that?
[19:00] <shadeslayer> oh btw i noticed Crysis uses Qt for networking and stuff
[19:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: which statement? Clementine?
[19:00] <shadeslayer> or the one regarding the bug?
[19:01] <Quintasan> How do I remove old devices from Phonon control panel?
[19:06] <jussi> how do I download a whol directory from kde svn ?
[19:06] <jussi> (ie. /trunk/www/sites/planet/website/images )
[19:08] <Quintasan> apachelogger: hmm, yeah, it's gstreamer
[19:08] <Quintasan> apachelogger: How do I debug that kind of magic?
[19:09]  * Quintasan switched to Xine backend in Phonon and it suddenly plays stuff
[19:10] <apachelogger> Quintasan: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/Phonon
[19:10] <apachelogger> jussi: svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/www/sites/planet/website/images
[19:11] <apachelogger> or svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/www/sites/planet/ to get the whole planet including all subfolders
[19:12] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Would I like to have GIT Phonon on my system?
[19:12] <apachelogger> no
[19:12]  * apachelogger is soon going to break all and everything
[19:12] <apachelogger> (as he does everytime between releases)
[19:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so, do I get a kamoso patch with complete changelog or not?
[19:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i fail to see how that changelog entry is not sufficient 
[19:14] <shadeslayer> ffffffuuuuuuuu
[19:14] <shadeslayer> flipping wiki doesn
[19:14] <shadeslayer> *doesn't allow me to login
[19:14] <apachelogger> +  * Remove libvlc-dev from build depends (LP: #712534)
[19:15] <apachelogger> -Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, vlc, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base,
[19:15] <apachelogger> +Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base,
[19:15] <ScottK> Speaking of broken phonon...  All the dev links on http://phonon.kde.org/ don't seem to lead anywhere with different contenct.
[19:15] <apachelogger> do we have to start with colors again?
[19:15] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:15] <ScottK> ... content
[19:15] <apachelogger> ScottK: I blame it on sheytan
[19:15] <ScottK> Web minion fail?
[19:15] <apachelogger> sorta
[19:16] <Quintasan> apachelogger: herp derp, tells me to use gst-launch, I can't find any binary like that
[19:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: gimme a minute
[19:17] <apachelogger> Quintasan: why not?
[19:18] <Quintasan> well, because it is not there and apt-file throws nothing?
[19:18] <Quintasan> oh wait
[19:19] <apachelogger> !find gst-launch
[19:19] <apachelogger> oh
[19:19] <apachelogger> !find gst-launch0.10
[19:20] <Quintasan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/610727
[19:20] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ^
[19:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fixed
[19:21] <Quintasan> apachelogger: changing pulsesink to alsasink doesnt make it work
[19:22] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: MIR for kamoso filed as well
[19:22] <apachelogger> Quintasan: gstreamer bug, report upstream
[19:22] <Quintasan> oh god
[19:24] <shadeslayer> okay i have to go now, cya
[19:29] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: pong
[19:29] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: Any plans for making Muon use PolicyKit?
[19:29] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: it is already
[19:29] <Quintasan> huh?
[19:30] <Quintasan> here it calls KdeSudo
[19:30] <JontheEchidna> oh
[19:30] <JontheEchidna> for launching software-properties-kde
[19:30] <Quintasan> yup
[19:30] <JontheEchidna> that's what needs to use PolicyKit
[19:30] <JontheEchidna> software-properties-kde is written in pyth0rn
[19:30] <Quintasan> ohhhh
[19:31] <Quintasan> like hell someone is touching that
[19:31] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[19:40] <ScottK> What does Ubuntu use?
[19:41] <apachelogger> rbelem: will I ever get a picture? ^^
[19:42] <JontheEchidna> gksu, presumably
[19:42]  * apachelogger ponders using his nice fake graphic
[19:42] <Quintasan> apachelogger: lol, they want to attach the broken file
[19:42] <Quintasan> sup, copyright violation
[19:42] <apachelogger> who what where/
[19:42] <apachelogger> ?
[19:42] <Quintasan> gstreamer upstream
[19:43] <apachelogger> Quintasan: send it to the guy who requested that
[19:43] <sheytan> apachelogger did I really brake phonon? :D
[19:43] <apachelogger> Quintasan, JontheEchidna: I have a dbus protation of software-properties ... 
[19:43] <apachelogger> just needs someone to finish it
[19:43] <apachelogger> mvo also has interest in this
[19:43] <rbelem> apachelogger, i got X
[19:43] <apachelogger> I was thinking maybe amichair would like to
[19:43] <apachelogger> though eh did not yet answer
[19:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you did not fix it :P
[19:43] <apachelogger> rbelem: yay
[19:45]  * rbelem waits for plasma-mobile finish loading
[19:47] <rbelem> it is taking too long to load
[19:48] <apachelogger> because it needs to render the wallpaper in the cpu
[19:48] <apachelogger> and the icons
[19:48] <apachelogger> and the theme
[19:56] <ScottK> sheytan: Since perception is reality and the perception via the phonon website is broken: Yes.
[19:58] <sheytan> ScottK i only had to do the artwork for the page, sorry 
[19:58] <ScottK> sheytan: No doubt.  I think apachelogger is blame shedding.
[19:58] <apachelogger> well
[19:58] <apachelogger> I could be blaming vir
[19:59] <apachelogger> because of the superior former management of phonon no one on the team even knows how to change that page
[19:59] <sheytan> you see?
[20:00] <apachelogger> then again sheytan did not yet come up with a sane page, so all I could have done in the mean time is delete everything render the page just as useless as it is now
[20:00] <apachelogger> > and Phonon slices and dices the streams in the background and feeds them
[20:00] <apachelogger> > to the correct backends.
[20:01] <apachelogger> eh
[20:01] <apachelogger> screw you klipper!
[20:01] <apachelogger> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/297775
[20:01] <apachelogger> there
[20:01] <apachelogger> finally a feature worth having
[20:03] <sheytan> apachelogger if you could make a list of things to put on the site for me now, i would appreciate it
[20:03] <apachelogger> link: userbase, link: techbase, link: community ^^
[20:04] <sheytan> apachelogger is that all?
[20:04] <apachelogger> maybe a nakkid picture of rbelem
[20:04] <apachelogger> could spice up things a bit
[20:04] <sheytan> ahahahahah :D
[20:04] <apachelogger> rbelem: where is me picture :P
[20:05] <rbelem> apachelogger, it is taking forever to load
[20:05] <apachelogger> I no
[20:05] <apachelogger> someone should fix that
[20:05] <apachelogger> maybe someone who has it running right now
[20:10] <ScottK> sheytan: The phonon page needs http://apachelog.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/princess.jpg?w=450&h=300
[20:10] <sheytan> ScottK sure
[20:11] <ScottK> Great.
[20:12] <bambee> aha :D
[20:17]  * Quintasan needs to do more SRU's
[20:22] <ScottK> BTW, here you can see shadeslayer listing due to the laptop: http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072198401_NZJSm-A-LB
[20:24] <sheytan> apachelogger you'll have a page that cool, that no other project
[20:25] <Quintasan> ScottK: so huge
[20:25] <Quintasan> :O
[20:30] <Quintasan> apachelogger: did you upload new kamoso?
[20:31] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: hrrrrr :D
[20:32] <apachelogger> Quintasan: yes, shadeslayer already filed the MIR too
[20:32]  * apachelogger finds the mir a bit meritless though *shrug*
[20:32] <Quintasan> well, I delegated MIR to him so you know
[20:32] <Quintasan> :P
[20:32] <apachelogger> I do remember them good old days when you had to create a freaking wiki page for MIRs
[20:32] <apachelogger> and spend like half a day on research
[20:32] <Quintasan> lol
[20:34] <apachelogger> is it just me or can one not deactive the flipping touchpad with our new kcm anymore?
[20:42]  * apachelogger pokes rbelem with a long pointy stick of fluff
[20:53] <rbelem> :-D
[20:54] <rbelem> apachelogger, it seems that the 900-integration is not installing the links
[20:54] <apachelogger> oh
[20:54] <apachelogger> rbelem: which links?
[20:55] <apachelogger> rbelem: any chance of getting the picture any time soon? otherwise I'll just publish with my fake picture and we could exchange it later on
[20:55] <rbelem> it is installed but i'm getting errors
[20:56] <rbelem> apachelogger, i will try one more time
[20:56] <rbelem> apachelogger, if it fails...
[20:56] <rbelem> let's go to plan b
[20:58] <apachelogger> :D 
[20:58] <apachelogger> plan b
[20:58] <apachelogger> :D
[20:58]  * apachelogger giggles away
[21:13] <shadeslayer> ScottK: yeah about that ... i'm going to get a new laptop in a couple of months
[21:13] <shadeslayer> then i'll make the one i'm holding in the picture a home server
[21:13] <apachelogger> http://img.xcitefun.net/users/2009/01/21160,xcitefun-big-laptop.jpg
[21:13] <apachelogger> that would seem like an appropriate model
[21:13] <shadeslayer> nah
[21:14] <shadeslayer> i'm thinking either the X200/X1 ( if it even comes out )/ Macbook Pro
[21:14] <apachelogger> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3467/3762379863_34ba0abfd5.jpg
[21:15] <shadeslayer> bleh .. no HP/Dell from now on
[21:15] <shadeslayer> i
[21:15] <shadeslayer> i've learnt my lesson
[21:16] <apachelogger> http://zareason.com/shop/Verix-1656.html
[21:19] <shadeslayer> 3 KGs
[21:19] <shadeslayer> @_@
[21:19] <shadeslayer> thats even heavier than what i have right now
[21:20] <apachelogger> somehow I find this hard to believe
[21:23] <rbelem> "could not start kdeinit4 ..."
[21:25] <DarkwingDuck> Hey guys
[21:35] <bambee> shadeslayer: do you play to urbanterror ? :D
[21:38] <apachelogger> http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/kubuntu-11-10-mobile-devices-sneak-peak/
[21:38] <apachelogger> evyerone, share the good news
[21:39] <sheytan>  apachelogger are you ready?
[21:39]  * apachelogger holds on to his seat
[21:40] <sheytan> good
[21:40] <sheytan> apachelogger http://imageshack.us/m/842/6458/phononpage.png
[21:40] <apachelogger> visualgasm
[21:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I love it
[21:41] <apachelogger> eh
[21:41] <apachelogger> sheytan: 
[21:41] <sheytan> which means you like it, right?
[21:41] <sheytan> yeah :D
[21:41] <apachelogger> there we have the tabfail again
[21:41] <ScottK> -1 Insufficient disney mouse princesses.
[21:41] <apachelogger> sheytan: one thing: remove the acer bit from the laptop
[21:41] <sheytan> ScottK wait, i'm not done yet :D
[21:41] <apachelogger> we are not advertising no nothing without getting money for it ^^
[21:41] <ScottK> Ah.  Excellent.
[21:41] <sheytan> apachelogger sure i will
[21:42] <apachelogger> sheytan: when can I get the page?
[21:42]  * apachelogger is all heated up now
[21:42] <sheytan> apachelogger do you do code for it?
[21:42]  * ScottK steps quietly to the other side of the room
[21:42] <sheytan> as i said, i only do artwork
[21:42] <apachelogger> sheytan: oh, suppose I could
[21:44] <sheytan> apachelogger ive got a dude who can take care of the code ;)
[21:44] <sheytan> we did the cd image stuff for kubu
[21:44] <apachelogger> uh, that would be awesome
[21:45] <sheytan> sure
[21:45] <ScottK> apachelogger: Even sheytan is recruiting minions now.  Get you game up.
[21:45] <ScottK> you/your
[21:46] <apachelogger> I have phonon debugging to do now
[21:46] <apachelogger> not my fault that sheytan is posting them hawt pictures
[21:46] <ScottK> You wouldn't if you had a phonon minion for such.
[21:46] <apachelogger> hm, that is an interesting thought
[21:49] <sheytan> ScottK extra for you, to remaind you that we still love you http://imageshack.us/m/685/8170/phononpageps.png :D:D
[21:49] <sheytan> apachelogger ^^
[21:50] <apachelogger> is it odd that I like this version even better?
[21:50] <apachelogger> we could have it as alternative version in the weeks of UDS ^^
[21:53] <sheytan> apachelogger no, it's nod odd. It's normal. really.
[21:55] <apachelogger> yay
[21:56] <rbelem> apachelogger, it worked
[21:57] <shadeslayer> bambee: never heard of it
[21:57] <bambee> omg
[21:58] <bambee> it's a foss fps games, like counter strike but better :)
[21:58] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[21:58] <shadeslayer> will check it out sometime
[21:59] <bambee> ^^
[21:59] <shadeslayer> bambee: i was having fun with busybox on my router a couple of minutes ago
[22:00] <bambee> aahh. good luck
[22:01] <bambee> busybox on your router, which kind of router is it ?
[22:01] <shadeslayer> bambee: broadcom modem+router
[22:02] <shadeslayer> which then connects to my wifi router which is a netgear device
[22:02] <bambee> mhhh
[22:02] <shadeslayer> uhm
[22:03] <shadeslayer> jussi: there?
[22:03] <bambee> :p
[22:03] <shadeslayer> jussi: tell ubottu about one-eye-rick
[22:15]  * sheytan doesn't want to go to work tomorrow!
[22:15] <sheytan> but he has to
[22:16] <sheytan> so good night every one ;)
[22:16] <rbelem> apachelogger, https://picasaweb.google.com/rclbelem/KubuntuMobile
[22:20] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: they're updating gcc ... so thats why half the stuff is broken 
[22:21] <shadeslayer> can't merge avogadro till thats fixed
[23:05] <DarkwingDuck> Ugh.... I need a work bench at my next place for this stuff
[23:25] <Xand3r> hey apachelogger