[00:09] Well, that went well. [01:02] hey, does anybody have a QtWebkit 2.2 package? [01:53] agateau: http://i.imgur.com/f2ooT.png [01:57] agateau, even better: http://i.imgur.com/Rh5nu.png [01:59] JontheEchidna: nice [01:59] * afiestas is compiling QtWebkit 2.2 finally [02:14] agateau: this was the best I could think of for the "multiple apps installed" case: http://i.imgur.com/SDxYi.png [02:30] man, this widget is just so neat [02:30] it [02:30] it's all animate-y [02:30] good job agateau [02:38] (and yes, I did remember to add the "..." to the string that opens the other dialog) [06:55] apachelogger: would you happen to be around? [07:24] ScottK: or apachelogger could you look at this pastebin: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jy40iYg5, apparently there are some dependency issues in maverick WRT the SRU (seems some stuff didn't get updated) === hunger_ is now known as hunger [11:16] micahg, ScottK: what is weird about this is that all that plunder is built from kdelibs, so I do not quite understand how the versions can diverge [11:16] * apachelogger makes some coffee [12:12] micahg, ScottK: IMHO that either was a slip up with the mirror, or unsupported packages installed [12:12] + aptitude is not a supported way of doing anything anyway [12:12] http://paste.ubuntu.com/610548/ [12:13] current libknewstuff2-4 from pl.archive maverick i386 [12:33] micahg: My vote is hung mirror only partly updated. [12:48] * apachelogger pokes rbelem about pictures of kubuntu mobile on n900 ^^ [12:51] ScottK, afiestas: I sent you feedback requests regarding my embedded sneak peak blog post, would be cool if you could take a look at it when you got a minute [12:51] Lol "The poll will start on Sunday 21 May. " [12:51] * apachelogger giggles [12:51] ScottK: do you know how the poll system works yet? [12:52] No. On my TODO. [12:52] kk [12:52] I probably ought to figure that out. [12:55] apachelogger: Feedback sent. [12:56] ScottK: I got hardware :P [12:56] Right. [12:56] More people with hardware would be good. [12:57] sure, just saying, at the very least I can spend all my waking time trying to get a kernel going ^^ [12:57] ScottK: otherwise the read is buzzy enough? [12:57] apachelogger: I will have to answer tonight, got an event now [12:58] sure, rbelem needs to get me some pics before publishing anyway ^^ [12:58] apachelogger: As long as you can stand behind the first stable release thing. [12:58] That will take some work and you only get so much out of rbelem between naps. [12:59] ^^ [12:59] lol [12:59] worst case: apachelogger needs to find himself minions again [12:59] minions, by definition, need molding and forming so don't wait for the last moment. [12:59] daring announcements, no question, but I believe we can pull this off [13:01] BTW, if I vanish asac's latest ntrack patch was bad. [13:01] ScottK: how so? [13:01] I mean he commented that it was not complete and stuff [13:02] Doesn't stop crazy people from building it in their PPA. [13:02] Crazy person being me at the moment. [13:11] Quintasan_: Did you merge cnd's fix of your Qt mess? [13:23] surely out drinking he is [13:30] apachelogger, oh! i completely forgot :-( i'm dd'ing the image to the sd [13:44] ScottK: no idea, I didn't do any mess in Qt [13:45] Quintasan_: apachelogger ping'ed you about this yesterday. [13:45] Quintasan_: https://code.launchpad.net/~chasedouglas/qt/fix-patch-removal/+merge/61668/ [13:45] you should be reading your mails :P [13:45] ...said the man who reads 5 mails per month ^^ [13:45] Any work has to wait until I am do with school [13:46] No other way around it [13:46] * apachelogger curses eduction to not provide time to work on free software and shape the future of modern society [13:46] lol === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [13:53] apachelogger: just quit the education! ;) [13:54] not an unattractive idea [14:03] urgh [14:03] I really messed up with that patch removal @_@ [14:11] Almost shadeslayer like lack of attention to detail. [14:24] ScottK: at least Quintasan doesn't have exams all the time, so he can fix stuff [14:24] True. [14:25] He can also stay upright when carrying his laptop. [14:25] Quintasan: You didn't get to see this behemoth laptop that shadeslayer had in Orlando. [14:28] http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Natty/14450330_Xqidv#1072221079_M77ku-A-LB [14:28] hm [14:28] that photo is all weird [14:30] Right. Because he's got the backpack on the left shoulder and is holding the laptop on the right and so they almost balance out. [14:30] oh, yeah, just thought the same thing [14:30] That may be the one time all of UDS he was straight and level. [14:30] also the angle is weird, the thing almost looks small [14:31] valorie: also I cannot reproduce how you did not find me on the uds-o group pic seeing as I was the only person with a blue lanyard :P [14:33] She was probably looking for the mouse princess hat. [14:33] That's not something one can easily forget. [14:39] yeah, well, I'd have loved to wear a fez [14:39] but since jr failed to bring them and the whole team failed to find fezes in budapest... :/ [14:52] apachelogger, i'm having some problems to get the rootfs and i found this link http://www.andremiller.net/content/mounting-hard-disk-image-including-partitions-using-linux [14:53] apachelogger, in some min will i have the picture [14:53] we could just fake the picture if all fails ^^ [14:53] ehehehe [14:53] :-) [14:53] apachelogger, it will work now :-) [15:01] hey ScottK [15:02] apachelogger: That seems evidence you may have hit the not widely known double Ballmer's peak where the evil really kicks in. [15:02] Hello eMyller [15:02] have you pushed new ntrack stuff to your ppa? [15:03] I did. [15:03] It's asac's enhanced patch. [15:03] He thinks there's some risk the first patch might leave one in a state where they can't reconnect to the VPN without first disconnecting/reconnecting networking. [15:04] cool [15:05] there's just something for mobile connection become perfect [15:05] do you have any idea why, when the connection dies, i can't connect until i remove/reattach the modem or restart modem-manager? [15:05] Even with the new patch? [15:06] yesterday's? [15:06] (which is an obscure way of saying "no") [15:06] Yes. [15:06] actually this problem is a bit old, very far before this ntrack issue [15:06] No idea then. [15:07] hm, actually i must wait for the connection to die for some reason so i can see :P [15:07] OK. [15:07] but well [15:08] removing/reattaching the modem isn't so annoying. [15:12] * apachelogger thinks he should document his superior callgrind command somewhere [15:25] http://i.imgur.com/i957K.png [15:25] * apachelogger is professional ui faker now [15:25] * apachelogger applies for canonical design team [15:27] actually, you'd imagine that sorta stuff to be easy [15:27] yet it is not [15:34] apachelogger: You aren't qualified for the design team unless you used proprietary tools to do your UI faking. [15:35] meh [15:35] there goes my job opporunity [15:57] apachelogger: k, weird, when I checked last night, there seemed to me something missing [16:02] micahg: Sometimes mirrors don't fully update for awhile. That seems to be what had happened. [16:03] * ScottK does wonder though why you're using a Polish mirror? [16:06] ScottK: was the SRU just released? [16:07] It was released just before Natty. [16:07] So not 'just'. [16:23] afternoon === cmagina is now known as cmagina-lunch [17:21] oh hai [17:33] apachelogger: Your minion is degrading. He's down to lolspeak now. === ximion_ is now known as ximion [17:35] shadeslayer: fix your language engine http://www.learnenglish.de/improvepage.htm [17:35] :S [17:36] that page keeps opening a popup [17:37] let us start easy [17:37] shadeslayer: http://www.5min.com/Video/English-in-30-Seconds-Colors-199653293 [17:37] colors [17:37] colors [17:37] erm no [17:37] i meant colours [17:39] o_O [17:39] bah ... i just wrote pad.lv/u/colors [17:39] apachelogger: get out of my brain === cmagina-lunch is now known as cmagina [17:41] apachelogger: btw kamoso builds just fine without libvlc-dev ... but i've yet to install and test it ... [17:43] * apachelogger waits [17:44] apachelogger: wait wait all year long [17:44] nah ... [17:44] just a couple of weeks :P [17:45] * apachelogger yawns [17:48] shadeslayer: Are you packaging newer kamoso or something like that? [17:48] Quintasan: did that already [17:48] its in backports as well by now [17:48] shadeslayer: file a MIR for it then [17:49] sure, let me finish merging avogadro [17:49] i don't feel like studying right now anyways [17:49] nonono [17:49] FIRST you do libvlc-dev build dep dropping [17:50] because that currently makes kamoso FTBFS on arm [17:50] then you do avogadro [17:50] then you file MIR [17:50] avogadro is nearly done :P [17:50] okay lemme scp the deb [17:50] ... [17:50] shadeslayer: I marked MIR as WIP by you on Todo [17:50] * Quintasan goes to testing BackInTime [17:51] sure [17:51] kde 4.7 is delayed ? I don't find tarballs on ktown :\ [17:51] I mean 4.7 beta1 [17:51] apachelogger: Shouldn't PolicyKit pick the current user when asking for password for sudo? [17:51] let's do the time-warp again. [17:52] it's just a jump to the left... [17:52] Quintasan: perhaps [17:52] it doesn't [17:52] blame upstream [17:52] ...and then a step to the right... [17:53] omg i'm green [17:53] okay better now [17:53] apachelogger: works fine without libvlc [17:54] patchy patchy patchy [17:54] ...so the world ends tomorrow [17:54] i'm pleased to have met you all, fellows. [17:54] lol [17:55] apachelogger: yeah will send you a debdiff [17:55] * apachelogger adds nice picture to kubuntu mobile n900 page [17:55] wait a minute [17:56] apachelogger: i can haz access to a ARM box? [17:56] no [17:56] need to build avogadro [17:56] :( [17:56] bah, no JR [17:56] only kubuntu developers get access to them [17:56] oh jussi! [17:56] apachelogger: ! [17:57] jussi: do you haz time to read an important document? [17:57] apachelogger: i just need to test out a build [17:57] apachelogger: which doc? [17:57] apachelogger: and I always have time for you... [17:57] :D [17:58] shadeslayer: just get any box and put it over your wrist you then have an arm box [17:58] roflz [17:58] hahaha [17:58] shadeslayer: you can give me the plunder and I can build [17:59] my arm would probably be ripped off if i strap my laptop/desktop to my wrist [17:59] apachelogger: build avogadro from debian [17:59] no modifications necessary [17:59] apachelogger: How do I submit my results with BackInTime? [18:00] Quintasan: research you mean? [18:00] well [18:00] I'm already done with it [18:01] shadeslayer: url [18:01] apachelogger: uh .. pull-debian-sources avogadro ? [18:01] Quintasan: just write down your findings and send it to kubuntu-devel for discussion [18:01] k [18:01] shadeslayer: I am not entirely sure we have pull-debian-source on the arm [18:01] shadeslayer: What do you want to build on ARM? [18:01] Quintasan: avogadro [18:02] apachelogger: are you going to do it? [18:02] apachelogger: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/avogadro/avogadro_1.0.3-1.dsc [18:02] ScottK: are you building something on the arms? [18:03] someone from linaro disabled it on the last upload, want to check if it builds now [18:03] apachelogger: No. [18:03] oh [18:03] debfx: maybe you? [18:03] someone definitely is dropped to shell in a pbuilder [18:03] i should apply for kubuntu dev in the next meeting [18:03] yeah [18:03] Cpu(s): 2.6%us, 2.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 94.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.7%si, 0.0%st [18:03] * jussi prods apachelogger [18:03] Looks not very busy. [18:03] shadeslayer: you should do something first [18:04] apachelogger: i'm doing something now [18:04] ScottK: looking at the tasks [18:04] i did stuff earlier [18:04] apachelogger: Are you going to build it for shadeslayer? [18:04] also feels kinda slow [18:04] might be network though [18:04] apachelogger: we should make shadeslayer package blink :P [18:04] I see [18:04] blink? [18:04] that im client? [18:04] apachelogger: It's jr [18:04] because i'm reading a book titled Blink [18:04] voip client [18:04] SIP client [18:04] ah righto [18:05] icanblink.com [18:05] yep it [18:05] * Quintasan wonders why people mark that as needing work [18:05] ScottK: I also see debfx having a buildpackage stuck for mumble [18:05] *yep it's in my history [18:05] It looks like I may have something stuck in there too. [18:05] ScottK: maybe we can reboot? [18:05] The packaging is already there. Just "reuse" it and make sure we can have it in archive [18:05] update and reboot [18:05] ScottK: uptime 106 days :D [18:05] No need. [18:06] Mine is going in screen, I can kill it. [18:06] Quintasan: for blink ? [18:06] It was gdb'ing the apt armel segfault. [18:07] shadeslayer: yes [18:07] will investigate [18:07] shadeslayer: you will get major kudo's from me if you get blink in the archive... I might even send you something nice [18:07] hahaha :D [18:07] We need two packages, python-sipsimple and blink [18:07] shadeslayer: ^ [18:08] both are provided by upstream's Debian repository [18:08] herp derp ... you just added python to the equation [18:08] shadeslayer: the problem is that you will have to repackage the source [18:08] repackage the what [18:09] shadeslayer: k/ubuntu and python go hand in hand... [18:09] why can't we use whats provided? [18:09] because upstream uses darc instead of something sensible and has debian/ inside the source [18:09] >.> [18:09] and policy is to "ignore" upstreams packaging [18:09] erk [18:09] who made https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Todo/Oneiric immutable ? [18:09] which means you can *cough*re-format and reuse it*cough* [18:09] shadeslayer: ^ [18:10] heh [18:10] will looksie [18:10] But I would look at the license first [18:10] ... [18:10] oh look [18:10] shadeslayer: why did you remove yourself from MIR for Kamoso? [18:10] i didn't [18:10] lol [18:11] Quintasan: i was going to add myseldf [18:11] -d [18:11] I'll do that [18:11] then i see someone already did that [18:11] now [18:11] done [18:12] Quintasan: You're allowed to look at upstream's packaging and reuse it if it doesn't suck, but that almost never happens. [18:12] ScottK: That one looked acceptable [18:12] It does happen. [18:12] rm changelog and you are good to go IMO [18:12] Though it was just a superficial research [18:13] rofl python-numpy [18:13] Numpy rocks. [18:14] apachelogger: did you try that build? [18:14] It's a bit over complex for a lot of things that people use it for. [18:15] shadeslayer: did you give me a url yet? [18:15] yup [18:16] ah there [18:16] [22:32:29] apachelogger: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/avogadro/avogadro_1.0.3-1.dsc [18:16] got lost in that highlight wall up there [18:16] That or shadeslayer got lost in a telepathy haze. [18:17] ... [18:18] i think there's actually something called telepathy haze :P [18:18] * ScottK guesses it's an early Alpha release that doesn't actually do much. [18:18] Of course that's a safe bet given the topic. [18:19] well ... thats what they're going to label the first release anyways [18:19] ScottK: are you also not building anything anywhere else? [18:19] Nope. [18:19] cause there is a g++ instance running [18:19] one-eye-rick is busted [18:19] and it does not go away, also does not seem to cause load [18:19] WTF [18:19] Weird. [18:20] apachelogger: the package itself might not build [18:20] deps are quite unsatisfied [18:20] shadeslayer: what? [18:20] cpp-4.6: Depends: gcc-4.6-base (= 4.6.0-6ubuntu1) but 4.6.0-7ubuntu1 is to be installed. [18:20] why am I testbuilding then?! [18:20] apachelogger: debfx's mumble build is still going, AFAICT. [18:21] i just saw that error [18:21] I think there is something defunct there [18:21] i thought the build was going on and then switched to checking Kamoso [18:21] why would the g++ be stuck there but not cause any load [18:22] Dunno, but rebooting that box is a PITA because I always have to do some manual magic that I can never remember from one time to the next to get it mount /var/cache [18:22] apachelogger: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/05/google-summer-of-code-where-are.html [18:22] uhh [18:22] ScottK: not in your bash history? [18:23] Might be. [18:23] I mean, I dunno [18:23] ScottK: does it feel slow to you? [18:23] No [18:23] ok [18:23] must be the network then [18:23] rather sluggish for me ^^ [18:24] Good point about the bash history. [18:25] ScottK: whati is the magic? maybe I can turn it into something automated [18:25] I do sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sdb and then suddenly it knows all about /dev/sdb and can mount the partition. [18:25] weird [18:25] Before I do that it sees /dev/sdb itself, but none of the partitions. [18:25] ScottK: well, should be easy enough to turn that into an upstart or init job [18:26] I really need to redo all these devices with Natty. [18:26] O_O [18:26] kamoso isn't in debian? [18:26] ScottK: that would be even better [18:26] NCommander is going to teach me how. [18:26] ScottK: btw, mpoirer will start on the new n900 kernel this weekend [18:27] Great. [18:30] apachelogger: bug 712534 [18:30] Launchpad bug 712534 in kamoso (Ubuntu) "remove vlc dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712534 [18:39] WTF AMAROK [18:39] * Quintasan goes to Tomahawk [18:40] amarok-- [18:40] tomahawk++ [18:40] phonon-- [18:40] phononfive++ [18:40] hehe [18:40] shadeslayer: where is the diff? [18:40] Quintasan: does tomahawk even build right now? [18:40] apachelogger: yeah one sec [18:41] no idea [18:41] ah, that report was from someone else [18:41] but Amarok refuses to play my FLAC files for apparently no reason [18:41] most of them work but some dont [18:41] might be gstreamer actually [18:42] rbelem: picture? :P [18:42] apachelogger, almost there [18:43] hehe [18:43] :-D [18:43] rbelem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/n900 <-- look I put a nice picture there :D [18:43] JontheEchidna: ping [18:44] apachelogger, hahahaah! === ximion_ is now known as ximion [18:45] agateau: This is your Qt SRU verification ping .... [18:46] apachelogger, it is stopped in load fallback graphics devices [18:46] rbelem: are you sure that it is not simply very slow? [18:47] though I never saw that message I believe [18:47] apachelogger, yup [18:47] hm [18:47] debdiff doesn't show any changes [18:47] rbelem: are you on oneiric? [18:47] Quintasan: last I heard tomahawk had similar issues [18:47] shadeslayer: then you are diffing the wrong dscs or you corrupted the original one [18:47] stops flac before the end [18:47] hmm [18:47] jussi: more like phonon [18:48] jussi: well, amarok says "there are too many errors on the playlist" [18:48] apachelogger, ǹatty [18:48] apachelogger: ok [18:48] there is some unique awfulness to the current streaming design [18:48] and refuses to play them [18:48] natty [18:48] makes me wanna puke everytime I look at it [18:48] rbelem: odd, without sgx? [18:48] yeah [18:48] apachelogger: original was corrupted [18:48] yup [18:48] maybe you need to install the omapfb driver [18:49] hum... [18:49] i will try that [18:49] Tomhawk just played it [18:49] no problems [18:50] bug 712534 , if someone could now patch the package and upload it :) [18:50] Launchpad bug 712534 in kamoso (Ubuntu) "remove vlc dependency" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712534 [18:53] shadeslayer: Package: kamoso [18:53] Architecture: any [18:53] Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, vlc, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base, [18:53] gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, gstreamer0.10-x [18:53] patch is incomplete [18:53] derp [18:54] btw how do i go about a MIR when kamoso isn't in debian? [18:54] * Quintasan considers switching to pbuilder-dist [18:56] apachelogger: fixored [18:59] shadeslayer: changelog is no insufficient [18:59] what... why? [18:59] amarok == bloat [18:59] tomahawk == unstable [18:59] shadeslayer: * Remove libvlc-dev from build depends (LP: #712534) [18:59]