[00:11] <highvoltage> really?
[00:11] <highvoltage> seems like quite a sparse man page to me!
[00:14] <doctormo> jono_: *ding* constructive solution blog post: http://doctormo.org/2011/05/19/deviantart-plugins-released/
[00:15] <doctormo> jcastro: I agree openshot is, although hearing from Jeff (PiTiVi developer) on why we can't include it by default was interesting.
[00:15] <jcastro> right
[00:16] <popey> why cant we?
[00:16] <popey> ffmpeg bits required?
[00:18] <jono_> doctormo, awesome! :-)
[00:18] <jono_> ffmpeg
[00:18] <jono_> licensing
[00:21] <jcastro> popey: same reason we can't ship codecs, etc.
[00:21] <jcastro> http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/5651069099/cleaning-up-after-ourselves
[00:21] <jcastro> ok how's this?
[00:23] <popey> bummer
[00:23] <doctormo> popey: Yeah I know, I like openshot too,
[00:23] <doctormo> Although I made sure not to say that too many times as I stayed at Jeffs house last Friday ;-)
[00:50] <akgraner> openshot is da bomb even I can figure out how to use it
[01:01] <duanedesign> jcastro: ping
[01:01] <jcastro> yo
[01:02] <duanedesign> hew i edited a post, not a real high priority but was wondering if you could review it. http://askubuntu.com/questions/38831/how-to-remove-the-nautilus-alert-of-ubuntu-one-to-synchonize-folder
[01:02] <jcastro> already approved
[01:02] <jcastro> the queue is quite quick
[01:02] <jcastro> need MORE EDITS!!!
[01:02] <duanedesign> ok great
[01:03] <duanedesign> good to hear you and jono talked with charles about the Beginners team we are excited about that
[01:48] <ScottL> jcastro, where's the next UDS going to be?  I want to jam with you and Jono on some old school Metallica!
[01:49] <mhall119> ScottL: Orlando again
[01:49] <mhall119> also, stop saying "old" and "Metallica" in the same sentence :(
[01:51] <ScottL> there are definitive areas to metallica's work, back when i had a mullet it was the "old" metallica
[01:51] <ScottL> and I think "...And Justice for All" capped off that period (although I understand that some say it was "Master of Puppets" because of Cliff
[01:56] <mhall119> mullet eh?  okay, now I don't feel so old anymore, thanks
[02:07] <ScottL> heh, you're welcome ;)
[02:07] <ScottL> i remember when ride the lightning came out and megadeth's business album too, man those were good times for metal :)
[02:08] <ScottL> i miss them, i'm old
[02:30]  * highvoltage never understood mullets (not even in the 80's)
[02:31] <highvoltage> (and I like the newer metallica, which not everyone agrees with)
[07:04] <dholbach> good morning
[08:06] <nigelb> good morning dholbach, ara :)
[08:07] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[08:10] <ara> morning nigelb
[08:56] <nigelb> good morning dpm
[08:56] <kim0> morning everyone
[08:57] <dpm> morning all
[09:04] <nigelb> ola kim0 :)
[09:04] <kim0> nigelb: hola :)
[14:27] <jcastro> paultag: whoops, I accidentally delete the ohio team's wiki pages.
[14:27] <jcastro> (just kidding)
[14:54] <nigelb> lol
[14:55] <nigelb> ok, the bestest best tool I've seen so far to deal with time zones --> http://everytimezone.com/
[14:59] <jono> dholbach, dpm you guys ready for our roadmap calls in a bit/
[14:59] <jono> ?
[15:00] <dpm> jono, ours is in 1:30
[15:00] <jono> dpm, ours in in an hour
[15:00] <jono> dholbach's is in 1hr 30
[15:01]  * JFo gets out the compass
[15:02] <dpm> jono, oh, I got confused
[15:15] <nigelb> JFo: hahah
[15:15] <nigelb> jono: Q and A with rickspencer3 today?
[15:16] <jono> nigelb, yup
[15:16] <nigelb> K, will add to cal.
[15:17] <nigelb> jono: Do you usually have future information on who's going to be doing the Q and A on a particular day?
[15:20] <jono> nigelb, see the web page :-)
[15:20] <nigelb> jono: ahhh.  I'll add pete to the cal too :)
[15:20] <jono> thanks nigelb
[15:32] <dholbach> hey jono - yep
[15:34] <doctormo> jono: It's got to be 5am over in California, are you visiting London?
[15:34] <jono> doctormo, on an early call - it is 7.30am over here
[15:35] <doctormo> If you have a spare moment, I seek advice on getting yesterdays blog post hyped up a bit more. Getting it on the inkscape planet, omg ubuntu and some gimp channels.
[15:46] <jussi> does anyone remember the name of that new planet software people were talking about?
[15:46] <jussi> Not venus
[15:49] <highvoltage> jussi: feedjack?
[15:49] <jussi> highvoltage: ahh yes. If anyone knows any others, Id be interested to see them
[16:01] <jono> dpm, all set?
[16:01] <dpm> jono, yep
[16:09] <dpm> jono, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~dpm/+specs?role=assignee
[16:26] <Technoviking> jono: mind if I change the password on the power user mailing list to something more easy to remember:)
[16:27] <Technoviking> jono: also people are kicking ass on the PowerUser wiki, looking awesome
[16:29] <jono> Technoviking, sure! just mail me the new pass
[16:29] <jono> Technoviking, yeah the wiki is looking sweet!
[16:30] <jono> Technoviking, could be awesome for you to blog about the things going on as our new fearless leader there
[16:30] <dholbach> jono, I'm ready :)
[16:30] <jono> dholbach, nipping for a quick bio break, which is of course, code for going to pee, and then will be ready
[16:31] <dholbach> jono, thanks for sparing me the phone experience :-P
[16:32] <Technoviking> jono: thanks, will do
[16:34] <jono> dholbach, log onto Skype
[16:34] <dholbach> I'm logged in
[16:34] <dholbach> I can see you
[16:34] <jono> I just tried calling
[16:34] <jono> voicemail
[16:34] <dholbach> let me try to call you
[16:34] <jono> dholbach, ok
[16:35] <dholbach> bloody skype, restarting
[16:36] <jono> lol
[16:36] <dholbach> hum, can't see you online now
[16:38] <nigelb> what happened to mumble? ;)
[16:53] <nigelb> heh, the last line is super funny https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-May/msg00533.html
[17:09] <jcastro> cjohnston: where are apt.ubuntu.com bugs supposed to go?
[17:10] <cjohnston> I'd guess apturl whatever package.
[17:10] <cjohnston> lemme check
[17:11] <jcastro> can you find out (whenever is fine)
[17:11] <jcastro> I have community people who want to fix apt.ubuntu.com but are flailing right now
[17:11] <jcastro> I'd like to get them on the right road
[17:11] <nigelb> jcastro: yeah, someone demo'd a new one at a session.  The community ones are more beautiful.
[17:12] <jcastro> right
[17:12] <jcastro> so I need to connect those guys with whoever can deploy that stuff
[17:13] <nigelb> jcastro: hrm, have you talked to noodles in canonical-isd?
[17:14] <nigelb> he was at the session that we discussed this
[17:14] <jcastro> ah he was?
[17:14] <jcastro> did you guys discuss apt.u.c?
[17:14] <nigelb> it was the software center web UI session
[17:14] <nigelb> so this was brought up
[17:15] <jcastro> ok so I need to ping noodles?
[17:15] <nigelb> I would suggest that, yes.
[17:15] <maco> jcastro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseCandidateAnnouncement so is this something i can delete, or should it stick around for hysterical raisins?
[17:15] <nigelb> bwahaha hysterical raisins
[17:16] <maco> nigelb: have you never talked to crimsun? he uses that phrase *all the time*...its where i got it
[17:16] <nigelb> maco: Ah.
[17:17] <jcastro> maco: DELETE!
[17:17] <Technoviking> is it a bug that Ubuntu 11.04 does not know how to spell oneiric:)
[17:17] <cjohnston> jcastro: noodles is gone for the day
[17:17] <jcastro> the real announcements are on the mailing lists
[17:17] <jcastro> cjohnston: I just needed a name to mail
[17:18] <jcastro> nigelb: are the notes from the session available?
[17:18] <cjohnston> Gotcha.. Don't know if it is him..
[17:18] <nigelb> jcastro: sec
[17:21] <nigelb> bah, I can't find that session!
[17:21] <maco> is there a way to turn off a wiki redirect?
[17:22] <maco> EdgyKnot2 has a redirect to EdgyEft/Knot2 (which has been deleted) but is suspect the redirect takes some cycles that the server could use given its 500 rate
[17:23] <maco> jcastro: are we just deleting old help doc stuff, or should we delete old developer stuff too?
[17:23] <nigelb> maco: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyKnot2?action=edit
[17:23] <jcastro> maco: leave old specs as people refer to them
[17:23] <maco> nigelb: thanks
[17:23] <maco> jcastro: ok
[17:24] <jcastro> maco: if it's like, unsupported working docs from the old days then remove it.
[17:24] <jcastro> if it doesn't have any value to the team today
[17:25] <nigelb> jcastro: https://launchpad.net/~michael.nelson
[17:26] <nigelb> jcastro: and here's the notes from that session https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-webcatalog/+spec/desktop-o-software-center-web
[17:27] <nigelb> jcastro: checkout the "where would this service live" bit
[17:31] <maco> jcastro: i came across an edgy spec thats like "hey, we should install some ppds by default!" and given the current state of ubuntu (plug'n-actually-play printers) that's obviously done
[17:36] <jono> folks, Rick Spencer is doing a live Q+A now
[17:36] <jono> join #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[17:36] <jono> to participate
[17:40] <nigelb> I dislike it when we have canonical managers doing Q and A and there's a bunch of support questions :\
[17:45] <AlanBell> where do they all come from?
[17:46] <AlanBell> why don't these people turn up to open week sessions?
[17:50] <maco> AlanBell: they come from seeing the word "classroom" and assuming it's where to ask questions
[17:50] <maco> they ask questions when nobody's doing a session too
[17:51] <maco> its just htat when someone is, they go "oh oh an active channel! *pounce*"
[17:51] <AlanBell> it is more than that
[17:51] <AlanBell> we need hordes of people with questions for actual classroom sessions
[17:52] <AlanBell> they turn up at these Q&A things asking random stuff, and I didn't even know the event was on
[17:58] <daker> mhall119, any work being done qimo3 ?
[18:06] <paultag> jcastro: hahaha
[18:52] <mhall119> cjohnston: nigelb ping
[18:52] <mhall119> daker: not yet :(
[18:52] <nigelb> mhall119: pong
[18:52] <highvoltage> mhall119: we should poke you harder about that :)
[18:53] <mhall119> nigelb: we still doing our call?
[18:53] <nigelb> yup
[18:53] <nigelb> mhall119: did you see my PM with details?
[18:54] <mhall119> probably....
[18:54] <nigelb> heh
[19:20] <jcastro> jono: I split out the U1 thing into it's own blueprint
[19:20] <jcastro> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-o-ubuntu-one-developer-apis
[19:21] <jcastro> duanedesign: hey
[19:21] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/ThirdPartyProjects
[19:22] <jcastro> duanedesign: how would you feel about a rename of that page?
[19:22] <jcastro> to say /Applications?
[19:28] <daker> mhall119, are you going to use unity 2D ?
[20:02] <mhall119> daker_: no
[20:03] <mhall119> daker_: I had been planning on a Gnome version, but with the changes for Unity and Gnome-Shell, I'll probably just stick with Xfce
[20:16] <duanedesign> jcastro: ping
[20:17] <duanedesign> jcastro: ahh yes
[20:18] <duanedesign> jcastro: yeah that title creayed a long time aago when things where just gettuing going. Should  we specify they are not canonical proects?
[20:18] <jcastro> duanedesign: I already tweeted it
[20:18] <jcastro> duanedesign: however on monday or something I'll rename it
[20:19] <jcastro> and create a link
[20:19] <duanedesign> jcastro: early on i saw a need for somewhere folks leveragng Ui could share find and collaborate
[20:20] <duanedesign> jcastro: i hav ideas to do more to the idea once it gets some buzz
[20:21] <duanedesign> jcastro: i am glad you mentioined tit i need to update the resources section
[20:21] <jcastro> duanedesign: I'm helping Aq grow this this cycle
[20:21] <jcastro> so I'm here to help you do whatever you need to do
[20:24] <czajkowski> Aloha
[20:35] <jono> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerUsers/LogoSubmission
[20:35] <jono> nice!
[20:36] <duanedesign> jcastro: oh great! you alreadt updated some stuff ofn the Ubutntnu One/ThirdPartyPage. Good work
[20:38] <duanedesign> jcastro: My biggest problem is getting the word out that people should add thair apps to the page, and what the benefits are
[20:38] <jcastro> yeah
[20:38] <jcastro> I will help with that. :)
[20:39] <duanedesign> i am constantly in #ubuntoone catching people, 'hey you should add your app here'
[20:40] <jono> mhall119, cjohnston ping?
[20:41] <cjohnston> Hey jono.. just got home.. whats up
[20:41] <jono> cjohnston, I wanted to continue the discussion re. LoCo Directory and the ideas discussed at UDS
[20:41] <jono> to get an idea of plans for the cycle
[20:42] <cjohnston> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+spec/community-o-loco-directory
[20:42]  * jono reads
[20:43] <jono> cjohnston, awesome, are you interested in helping to drive completion of this work in that blueprint?
[20:43] <cjohnston> Sure
[20:43] <jono> I think I would like to have some strategic calls on this front
[20:44] <cjohnston> ok.
[20:44] <jono> I currently have regular calls with czajkowski, but I think it might make sense to make it a conf call and include some others such as yourself
[20:44] <jono> maybe mhall119 and nigelb too
[20:44] <cjohnston> ok.. sounds good
[20:44] <jono> I really believe that the LD is strategically critical to growing our community
[20:44] <cjohnston> jono: LTP
[20:44] <cjohnston> :-P
[20:44] <jono> oh yeah
[20:44] <jono> what does that stand for again?
[20:45] <cjohnston> hehe
[20:45] <jono> Loco Team Portal?
[20:45] <cjohnston> LoCo Team Portal
[20:45] <jono> you best update the blueprint :-)
[20:45] <jono> says directory
[20:45] <jono> is that now officially renamed to the LTP?
[20:45] <cjohnston> its in the plans for this cycle
[20:45] <czajkowski> cjohnston: really :(
[20:45] <cjohnston> bah
[20:46] <czajkowski> we;ve spent cycles getting ti called the the LD
[20:46] <cjohnston> it isnt going to be a directory anymore...
[20:46] <czajkowski> be nice to have had some discussion on it before it was renamed
[20:46] <jono> czajkowski, I think the point is that it is becoming more than a dir
[20:46] <cjohnston> there was
[20:46] <jono> it is becoming a source of dynamic contet
[20:46] <czajkowski> fair enough
[20:46] <czajkowski> I guess for me I dont diferenciate between directory and portal :s
[20:46] <jono> czajkowski, would you be happy to continue the fortnightly calls and bring in the LTP folks?
[20:47] <jono> czajkowski, :-)
[20:47] <czajkowski> jono: sure
[20:47] <popey> \o/
[20:47] <jono> sweet
[20:47] <popey> On the LoCo Council and I had no idea the LoCo Directory was being renamed
[20:47] <czajkowski> jono: in fact might be better then to switch from me to itnet7 as yer all on the same timezone
[20:47] <popey> win
[20:47] <czajkowski> popey: I know would have been nice to have been involved a bit
[20:47] <jono> so I am thinking lets start with czajkowski, mhall119, nigelb and cjohnston
[20:47] <doctormo> popey: It's being renamed to what?
[20:48] <cjohnston> public uds session.. nothing backdoor at all.. sorry :-/
[20:48] <czajkowski> jono: yup start with cjohnston nigelb mhall119 and I think itnet7 will fit better with timezones tbh
[20:48] <jono> folks, it's a name, let's focus on the more important things :-)
[20:48] <jono> czajkowski, sweet :-)
[20:48] <czajkowski> cjohnston: hard to remote particpate in that session as you well know I did try
[20:48] <cjohnston> I know.
[20:49] <doctormo> "Local Community Portal" If I were to suggest.
[20:49] <doctormo> But it sounds like the name is done.
[20:49] <popey> hey ho
[20:49] <cjohnston> Yall can bring it up on the ML.. the change hasnt been made yet.
[20:49] <jono> just sending the cal invite out
[20:49]  * doctormo hopes that writing a bit of the code on the loco directory counts for naming votes.
[20:50] <jono> doctormo, there is no naming votes
[20:50] <jono> it is *just a name* :-)
[20:50] <doctormo> jono: I was _joking_ in a playful way.
[20:50] <jono> doctormo, ahh cool :-)
[20:50] <doctormo> jono: I actualltly wanted to ask if a project had been started for your advanced settings idea.
[20:51] <jono> doctormo, a lot of people suggested Ubuntu Tweak
[20:51] <jono> which goes most of the way there
[20:51] <cjohnston> ubuntu tweak is awesome
[20:51] <jcastro> we can just lop off the untrusted archive part of UT and it'd be fine
[20:52] <jono> doctormo, I think it could be interesting to direct some of the other config efforts into Ubuntu Tweak
[20:52] <jono> jcastro, totally agree
[20:52] <cjohnston> jono: you interested in checking out the summit direction as well?
[20:52] <jono> if we can get rid of the untrusted archive stuff and get packaging support and get it in USC that would be awesome
[20:52] <doctormo> So Ubuntu Tweak is a website that you need to register for in order to use the ppa, and they have a bunch of different tools for tweaking ubuntu?
[20:52] <jono> cjohnston, not right now, will check in later
[20:52] <cjohnston> ok
[20:53] <cjohnston> doctormo: no.. you just download it (from a ppa) and then its a bunch of tools for tweaking ubntu
[20:53] <popey> doctormo: no registration
[20:53] <cjohnston> ubuntu
[20:53] <popey> its an awesome app
[20:53] <cjohnston> +!
[20:53] <cjohnston> +1
[20:53] <popey> yes, +!
[20:53] <cjohnston> lol
[20:53] <Pici> We've been suggesting that people not use Ubuntu Tweak in #ubuntu.  A good review of the code would be appreciated to ensure that it doesn't damage user's systems.
[20:53] <popey> i gave it the once-over a year or so back
[20:54] <popey> it's nothing like what people envisage it to be
[20:54] <jono> Pici, agreed, I think this is where the Ubuntu Power Users community could help mature the app
[20:54] <popey> i.e. it's not automatix
[20:54] <cjohnston> Maybe that could be something the power team or whatever they are does
[20:54] <jono> I am going to reach out to the author about it
[20:54] <jono> see if we can bring it into the UPU community and get some mentoring over it
[20:54] <jono> cjohnston, exactly :-)
[20:54] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak
[20:54] <jcastro> there it is
[20:54] <cjohnston> I like the idea of the power users.. I need to join up
[20:54] <doctormo> Looking at the source, looks extensable.
[20:54] <Pici> popey: Well, you have the power to change factoids now, so if you want to change it as well as discuss with the rest of the ops its use, go right ahead :)
[20:55] <popey> hah
[20:55] <popey> !ubuntu-tweak
[20:55] <ubot2> Factoid 'ubuntu-tweak' not found
[20:55] <popey> !ut
[20:55] <ubot2> For information on how to play Unreal Tournament, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/UnrealTournament - for Unreal Tournament 2004, see !ut2k4
[20:55] <popey> what is it?
[20:55] <popey> haha
[20:55] <popey> oooooo.. fancy a game of UT now
[20:55] <popey> stupid bot
[20:55] <Pici> !ubuntuweak
[20:55] <ubot2> Factoid 'ubuntuweak' not found
[20:55] <Pici> !ubuntutweak
[20:55] <ubot2> Ubuntu Tweak is a tool that automates some things; however, it is potentially dangerous an informal review of its code is pending and most of the things it does can be done by the use of other tools. Please don't ask for or provide support for it in #ubuntu.
[20:55] <jcastro> hah
[20:55] <jcastro> when you launch it the first thing it does is ask to put it's own PPA
[20:56] <popey> thats good
[20:56] <doctormo> Is it?
[20:56] <czajkowski> jono: any sign of that blog post you said you'd do from our call ?
[20:56] <popey> chrome, virtualbox, spotify don't even ask
[20:56] <popey> they just add
[20:56] <Pici> I looked at it a little bit and it had a lot of --assume-yes, which in my opinion isn't exactly good practice. Especially if you get into a partial upgrade/install situation.
[20:57] <jono> czajkowski, going out very soon, I am merging some other LoCo bits in, hence this discussion :-)
[20:57] <jono> czajkowski, cjohnston, nigelb, mhall119 invite sent
[20:57] <jcastro> hmm, this doesn't have any unity settings
[20:57] <Pici> Although that was quite a while ago, so it may have changed since.
[20:57] <doctormo> Pici: Yes, I have scripts like that and the machines can get into trouble if you manually edit the package list and assume yet, it starts installing then removing things alternatly.
[20:57] <doctormo> yes*
[21:00] <jono> I am mailing the Ubuntu Tweak author right now
[21:00] <popey> jcastro: true, but it's got the framework and mindshare
[21:01] <popey> I spoke to the author a year back, and he's keen to improve code quality to get in universe
[21:01] <popey> so it's not the same as the automatix situation where thet thought they were god-like
[21:01] <jcastro> heh
[21:01] <jcastro> man what a mess that was
[21:01] <jcastro> what was his name
[21:02] <jcastro> oh, arnieboy
[21:02] <popey> ☺
[21:02] <popey> happy days
[21:02] <popey> Ubuntu Ultimate Maximum Power Edition Pluspack Deluxe!
[21:02] <popey> or something
[21:03] <Pici> We still get people every now and then asking about Automatix and Ubuntu Ultimate in #ubuntu.  Its scary.
[21:03] <jono> popey, yeah I am encouraging the author to join ubuntu-power-users and collaborate there
[21:03] <popey> great!
[21:04] <jcastro> I panged the gunity and whatever the other one is guys
[21:07] <Technoviking> wootness!!
[21:39] <doctormo> jono, popey, http://doctormo.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Power-Users-209613338 <- My contribution, branding
[21:40] <jono> doctormo, awesome - did you see the logos page?
[21:40] <jono> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerUsers/LogoSubmission
[21:40] <nigelb> jono: does it have to be a "phone" call? can we use mumble?
[21:40] <doctormo> Nope, heh they have a page for it.
[21:41] <jono> doctormo, cool, eh? :-)
[21:41] <jono> nigelb, Mumble doesn't work for me
[21:41] <jono> it turns out that Mumble hates English people :-)
[21:41] <jono> nigelb, I can Skype you in though
[21:41] <nigelb> ah, that would rock
[21:41] <nigelb> It would be an international call for me :)
[21:43] <jono> doctormo, I would recommend you add your logo to that page
[21:43] <jono> nigelb, sweet
[21:43] <jono> is the time ok?
[21:43] <doctormo> Done already jono
[21:43] <jono> doctormo, legend!
[21:44] <jono> I assume the community will vote or pick for one
[21:44] <jono> one
[21:44] <nigelb> jono: Its 0230 to 0330 :p If its earlier better, this is fine too.  I sleep late anyway.
[21:44] <jono> nigelb, boom!
[21:44] <doctormo> jono: We're trying to shy away from voting on graphics, because we don't vote on code and it's fairly unfair to artists.
[21:44] <nigelb> jono: boom?
[21:44] <jono> doctormo, makes sense
[21:44] <jono> nigelb, thats late!
[21:45] <jono> nigelb, we will treat you like a king if you can join
[21:45] <jono> :-)
[21:45] <nigelb> jono: Currently its 0215 am, and of all the things to do, I'm reading launchpad code :p
[21:45] <jono> haha
[21:45] <jono> nigelb, you are awesome, dude
[21:45] <jono> was great to see you at UDS
[21:45] <nigelb> :)
[21:46] <jono> nigelb, I am keen to see how we can take the LTP to the next level and use it as a tool to open locos up to new people
[21:46] <jono> to make it tab-worthy :-)
[21:46] <jono> as a center of excitement and focus for the LoCo community
[21:46] <nigelb> jono: It would be awesome amount of work, but totally worth it.
[21:46] <jono> to showcase the awesome work going on, provide quick access to teams and more
[21:46] <jono> nigelb, it sounds like you, cjohnston and mhall119 are digging the idea of the challenge
[21:47] <nigelb> hell yeah :)
[21:47] <jono> and czajkowski and co are rocking the loco council
[21:47] <jono> so things are looking tight :-)
[21:47] <jono> I will do what I usually do and try to help coordinate resources and goals
[21:48] <doctormo> nigelb: The one time you got to go to UDS, dude we need to meet up some other way!
[21:48] <cjohnston> jono: wait till you look at the summit challenge :-/
[21:48] <cjohnston> we need more devs
[21:48] <jono> cjohnston, what is wrong with summit, does it need to change?
[21:48] <nigelb> we need to reach out for more help
[21:48] <jono> doesnt it work ok now?
[21:48] <jono> aside from some bugfixes
[21:48] <nigelb> jono: summit is a castle built from matchsticks :)
[21:49]  * popey wonders why mumble doesnt work for jono, seems to work fine for me.
[21:49] <jono> nigelb, seriously
[21:49] <nigelb> We deployed thrice *during* UDS
[21:49] <doctormo> jono: Two even management code bases = dev time waste?
[21:49] <cjohnston> plus what linaro wants
[21:49] <nigelb> I think I sat down twice during UDS fixing things that broke.
[21:50] <jono> doctormo, two?
[21:50] <doctormo> Well ok 4, but I don't count the wiki and blueprint system on launchpad. The two main ones are loco directory and summit.
[21:50] <jono> doctormo, different purposes though
[21:50] <jono> summit is great for running a single big event with multiple sessions
[21:51] <doctormo> shouldn't be different code if we can help it though.
[21:51] <jono> LTP is great for creating a directly of different events
[21:51] <jono> doctormo, I think it is a nice idea, but not sure it is worth the refactoring
[21:51] <jono> it strikes me that there is limited corrolation
[21:51] <jono> maybe a project for the future though
[21:52] <AlanBell> 21:41 < jono> it turns out that Mumble hates English people :-) <- no, you are just special jono
[21:52] <doctormo> I'm a structure guy, I see the overlapping structure. you'd know more about their functional equivalence.
[21:52] <jono> AlanBell, maybe it hates ex-pats :-)
[21:52] <AlanBell> could be
[21:52] <AlanBell> quitter!
[21:52] <jono> lol
[21:52] <nigelb> For the record, we just used AlanBell's server to mumble and it worked!
[21:52] <AlanBell> yay
[21:52] <doctormo> I just had fish and chips for lunch, chip butty and everything. In Boston of all places, lovely.
[21:52] <AlanBell> oh, I was going to ask about that
[21:53] <AlanBell> sabdfl wanted a mumble server for the community for teams and such to use
[21:53] <doctormo> AlanBell: What is mumble? sip server?
[21:53] <AlanBell> but IS don't want to provide one
[21:53] <AlanBell> but Canonical was never intended to be the only providor of community resources
[21:54] <AlanBell> I have a honking great big server there and a monthly bandwidth limit of 5TB
[21:55] <AlanBell> totally cool with it being used
[21:56]  * nigelb hugs AlanBell.
[21:58] <AlanBell> the 5TB isn't even a hard limit, I just get throttled back to 10MB line speed if I hit it
[22:02] <AlanBell> !info mumble
[22:03] <AlanBell> doctormo: it is a voice over IP conferencing server, doesn't do point to point calling
[22:03] <AlanBell> kind of like audio IRC, and it is in the repos
[22:03] <doctormo> Interesting
[22:06]  * Cheri703 just read scrollback and is going to throw in: I like doctormo's "Local Community Portal"  LOTS of people have no idea what a LoCo is...
[22:08] <jono> duanedesign, are you still heavily involved in the beginners team?
[22:08] <jono> czajkowski, writing up the blog entry now
[22:09] <duanedesign> jono: yes me and Charles re on the council together
[22:10] <jono> thanks duanedesign
[22:10] <jono> I am keen to schedule a call with you and Charles to discuss this 200million users thing
[22:10] <jono> see how the BT can rock that
[22:12] <duanedesign> jono the tam has sooo much potential. i do  not want to take away from the great work we have done but their is a lot I think we can do toincrease participation in the community even more
[22:12] <duanedesign> we are ovverloaded bight now with people interested in Devekopment
[22:13] <duanedesign> right*
[22:13] <duanedesign> I have talked with huats and am trying to revive and coolaborate on thr MOTU mentoring program
[22:15] <jono> duanedesign, sounds perfect
[22:15] <duanedesign> jono: definetly the BT is one of me and Charles passions in the community and are keen to always discuss ways ti improve and do a better job at our mission
[22:15] <jono> lets see if we can get something in the calendar
[22:16] <duanedesign> sounds good
[22:16] <jono> I think the BT and the LoCo Teams are criticial to our success
[22:28] <jcastro> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/story/2011/05/20/fort-smith-beaver-video.html
[22:28] <jcastro> beavers, don't mess with them
[22:35] <nigelb> night all, headed to bed.
[22:39] <Pendulum> g'night nigelb
[22:40] <jono> night nigelb