[00:04] <dmz1> Hi
[00:25] <sairasananas> Help
[00:25] <sairasananas> i get error when i try to view my folder :(
[00:32] <sairasananas> i cant view my Home ;(
[01:52] <avuton> Help. Just installed 11.04, when I brought it up it works fine. After a few power ons I lost window decorations. OK, so I nuke my entire /home directory and start from scratch thinking something's poisoning it. Fixed the problem. A few power ons and it begins happening again. No window decorations. Saw an old post that recommended starting metacity in this case, how can I fix this or even temporarily fix this?
[02:08] <Unit193> Woah....
[02:11] <preecher>  a for effort anyhows
[02:16] <IdleOne> charlie-tca: you around? may want to forward to ##fix_your_connection
[02:17] <Unit193> bazhang doesn't do that?
[02:17] <IdleOne> bazhang: can if he is active
[02:19] <rww> elky: that guy ^
[02:20] <elky> hrm...
[02:20] <rww> missed a ~
[02:21] <rww> though I'd do +b q_a_z_steve*!*@*$##fix_your_connection myself
[02:21] <elky> rww, yeah, on netbook
[02:23] <rww> heh, I guess #xubuntu was it. They're not flooding out elsewhere any moe.
[03:10] <avuton> Help. Just installed 11.04, when I brought it up it works fine. After a few power ons I lost window decorations. OK, so I nuke my entire /home directory and start from scratch thinking something's poisoning it. Fixed the problem. A few power ons and it begins happening again. No window decorations. Saw an old post that recommended starting metacity in this case, how can I fix this or even temporarily fix this?
[03:27] <charlie-tca> sorry, gone away for while to do some work here
[03:27] <charlie-tca> elky: thanks for taking care of that
[03:29] <Unit193> Welcome back charlie-tca
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[06:44] <eut> xubuntu 11.04 doesn't come with grub2?
[06:45] <bazhang> eut, sure it does
[06:46] <eut> grub --version prints 0.97 for me, is that right?
[06:46] <bazhang> you upgraded from an earlier version and kept legacy grub?
[06:47] <bazhang> don't even think thats possible
[06:47] <eut> what is your grub version?
[06:48] <bazhang> 0.97-29ubuntu61 (natty
[06:48] <bazhang> bizarro
[06:51] <eut> o0
[06:51] <bazhang> thought for sure it was 1.98
[06:51] <eut> if i try to install grub2 it conflicts with stuff
[06:52] <bazhang> Version 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3 (natty)  is what I have
[06:53] <eut> how did you determine that?
[06:53] <bazhang> by /msg ubottu info grub2
[06:54] <eut> i mean, how did you determine what package version you have on your system?
[06:56] <bazhang> by the above command
[06:57] <eut> how does some irc bot know what packages i have installed?
[06:58] <bazhang> well I keep all the very latest, thats how I know, check you r package manager
[07:02] <Unit193> eut: apt-cache policy grub2
[07:02] <eut> thanks
[07:02] <eut> it shows "Installed: (none)"
[07:03] <eut> for grub, it shows "Installed: 0.96-29ubuntu61"
[07:36] <rww> grub-pc is the usual package for grub2, not grub2.
[09:18] <dcorking> I use the xubuntu-desktop meta package in regular Ubuntu, and I got trouble upgrading from maverick to natty - would bugs be expected in that upgrade path?
[09:19] <Sysi> dcorking: if you have two -desktop metapackages installed, you will have problems, removing metapackage helps
[09:19] <Sysi> version upgrades can cause problems anyway
[09:20] <dcorking> oh - ok - I guess I will have to figure out how to remove the meta package without removing all its requires and recommends (or the alternative, just remove it, then add it back in after a successful upgrade)
[09:21] <dcorking> this is my third upgrade since I started using xubuntu-desktop - but the first time I got trouble!
[09:21] <dcorking> :)
[09:24] <dcorking> I will remove the meta-package and see how it goes, but in the meantime, would the devs be interested in a bug report with a copy of apt.log ?
[09:25] <Sysi> already known issue
[09:26] <dcorking> ok good - is it in launchpad?
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[10:29] <dirtycookie> hi
[10:29] <ochosi> !hi
[10:29] <ubottu> Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!
[10:30] <dirtycookie> i have an asus eeePC and want to install xubuntu from an usbstick
[10:30] <dirtycookie> now im in the boot menu from xubuntu and when i choose "install xubuntu on a harddisk" i get back to the bootmenu
[10:32] <ochosi> dirtycookie: try "don't install and test xubuntu" or however it's called
[10:32] <ochosi> you can then still install the system
[10:33] <dirtycookie> u mean i choose run xubuntu?
[10:33] <dirtycookie> well...
[10:34] <dirtycookie> if i choose Run Xubuntu
[10:34] <dirtycookie> i get back to the menu
[10:34] <ochosi> right
[10:34] <ochosi> so either way you get back to the menu?
[10:35] <dirtycookie> with the "automatic boot in x seconds"
[10:35] <dirtycookie> yes
[10:35] <ochosi> hmm, have you tried the alternate installer?
[10:35] <dirtycookie> i should but that is something id like to let you guys know
[10:35] <ochosi> you could download the alternate image, it's a non-graphic install-wizard, imo it's not really more complicated than the live-install
[10:35] <ochosi> k, thanks
[10:36] <ochosi> well, if you're sure it's a bug it would be best to submit it in launchpad
[10:36] <ochosi> !bugs
[10:36] <ubottu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[10:59] <tomekh> is there any fix/hack for long first-start of Thunar?
[11:01] <ochosi> tomekh: unfortunately not atm, afaik it's connected to the network-awareness of thunar (at first start it checks network-stuff with gio/gvfs)
[12:55] <dirtycookie> hi guys i need help with installing xubuntu on my eeePC
[12:55] <dirtycookie> can someone help
[12:55] <Arachon> dirtycookie: What's the matter?
[12:56] <hurp> i have only one issue> no distro can mount mz external 1.5tb wd hdd
[12:57] <hurp> i|ve looked the problem up and a lot of people have it, but thez all tell me to reformate it, but i can|t temporalz save the data anywhere
[12:57] <dirtycookie> Arachon: i have xubuntu on a usb stick and reachted the boot menu where i can choose "Install Xubuntu on a Hard Disk"
[12:58] <dirtycookie> when i hit enter
[12:58] <TheSheep> hurp: how did you get the data on it if you can't mount it?
[12:58] <dirtycookie> i get back to the menu
[12:58] <hurp> win recogniyes it fine
[12:58] <Arachon> dirtycookie: What happens if you select "try without installing", then double-clicking the "install" icon?
[12:58] <hurp> i can also mount it in anz windows enviroment, just not in linux
[12:59] <TheSheep> hurp: are you suing a german keyboard layout? %)
[12:59] <TheSheep> using*
[13:00] <hurp> i have downlaoded the false iso xD
[13:00] <hurp> but i don|t care, english is fine only the kezs are annoying
[13:00] <dirtycookie> Arachon: i get back to the menu with an "Automatic Boot in X seconds"
[13:00] <Arachon> Strange...
[13:00] <TheSheep> hurp: you can change the keyboard layout in the keyboard settings
[13:01] <Arachon> dirtycookie: Are you sure the entire image was applied to the USB?
[13:01] <Arachon> dirtycookie: like the ISO isn't damaged or something
[13:02] <dirtycookie> i used the usb installer recommended from ubuntu and the image passed the md5 checksum
[13:03] <Arachon> Hm
[13:05] <dirtycookie> kinda wierd :/
[13:07] <Arachon> Yeah I'm afraid I can't really figure out what's wrong :c
[13:07] <dirtycookie> k ill try the normal xubuntu version
[13:10] <Arachon> I'm unable to install an icon theme, I've downlaoded the theme and placed it in /usr/share/icons... What's wrong?
[13:10] <TheSheep> Arachon: did you unpack it?
[13:10] <Arachon> Yup
[13:11] <TheSheep> Arachon: is there a file index.theme
[13:11] <Arachon> TheSheep: hang on
[13:12] <Arachon> TheSheep: yup
[13:19] <TheSheep> Arachon: what's the exact path of that file?
[13:19] <Arachon> /usr/share/icons/<icontheme>/index.theme
[13:19] <TheSheep> that's correct
[13:20] <TheSheep> you can try running: sudo gtk-update-icon-cache /usr/share/icons/<icontheme>/
[13:20] <Arachon> Wait I think I figured it out... The icon.theme is empty <.<
[13:33] <LetsGo67> Hey people.  Why did Xubuntu become bloated?  i used to like it for old PCs.  But now it's not good for that anymore.
[13:41] <TheSheep> LetsGo67: it didn't
[13:43] <bazhang> LetsGo67, thats not a support question
[13:43] <LetsGo67> TheSheep and bazhang: Well, i used to install it on sub-1Ghz computers.  No dice now.
[13:44] <TheSheep> LetsGo67: it's the base system that's common for xubuntu and ubuntu, can't really do much about it other than use a different distribution
[13:46] <LetsGo67> What about Lubuntu?
[13:46] <bazhang> try it. lubuntu-desktop is the package
[13:46] <LetsGo67> What's the point of using Xubuntu > Ubuntu?
[13:46] <bazhang> #lubuntu is the channel
[13:46] <bazhang> LetsGo67, thats again not a support question
[13:47] <LetsGo67> Time to log off and in.
[13:49] <TheSheep> bazhang: it's ok to ask non-support questions about xubuntu
[13:49] <TheSheep> bazhang: it's also supposed to be a source of general information about xubuntu
[13:49] <bazhang> TheSheep, he/she is a known issue in multiple channels
[13:54] <rob0917> I think a lot of people will come to xubuntu as an alternative to unity
[13:56] <david234> Does Xubuntu have a "Connect to server" option like Ubuntu does in the places menu ?
[14:01] <Arachon> david234: I think you use gigolo for that
[14:12] <Arachon> Is it possible to get one of them borderless, transparent terminals in XFCE?
[14:14] <TheSheep> Arachon: the default terminal can be transparent and have the borders removed
[14:15] <TheSheep> Arachon: it's all in the settings
[14:15] <Arachon> Oh?
[14:17] <Arachon> Hm, any way to disable scrollbar as well?
[14:18] <Arachon> nvm, found it, I'm an idiot <.<
[14:20] <dcorking> is Thunar xubuntu's default file manager?
[14:20] <Arachon> yup
[14:22] <dcorking> tks - does thunar have an option to preserve timestamps when dragging-dropping?
[14:23] <dcorking> scratch that question - where is the canonical (small c) list of known issues and feature requests for thunar?
[14:29] <TheSheep> dcorking: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar
[14:31] <TheSheep> dcorking: also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar
[14:31] <TheSheep> dcorking: sorry, https://bugzilla.xfce.org/
[14:32] <dcorking> thanks TheSheep - should be easy enough to filter out thunar from bugzilla
[14:32] <TheSheep> yup, https://bugzilla.xfce.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=Thunar
[14:34] <Arachon> For some reason, every time I log in, an instance of Thunar and Terminator opens
[14:35] <TheSheep> Arachon: you must have saved your session on logout
[14:35] <TheSheep> Arachon: go to sessions in settings and delete them
[14:37] <Arachon> TheSheep: Hm... I found Thunar, but not the terminal in "Session"
[14:38] <TheSheep> Arachon: you can also just delete the files in ~/.cache/sessions
[14:40] <Arachon> kay, thanks
[15:00] <dcorking> re my earlier problem - I ran 'sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop' but my natty upgrade still won't complete - so I have concluded it is not a conflict with xubuntu but something deeper in ubuntu - I've taken those questions to #ubuntu - meanwhile thanks for help
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[16:28] <dusf> why would logging into xfce-session for a few mintues and then back into xubuntu-session have changed lots of my session and made my desktop appear entirely different?
[16:28] <Soupermanito> i don't know
[16:28] <Soupermanito> it never happened to me
[16:29] <dusf> Soupermanito: more details, screenshot http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1763410
[16:29] <Sysi> i'm not sure, but it maybe loads different settings
[16:29] <dusf> Sysi: is there anything i can do?
[16:29] <dusf> Soupermanito: got my fps in WINE up to 25/30 most of the time btw :)
[16:30] <Sysi> dusf: change settings to be in a way you want them to be
[16:30] <Soupermanito> :D and thats good i guess
[16:31] <dusf> Sysi: there are too many, and i don't know everything that has changed
[16:32] <dusf> for all i know it's gone messing at drivers and everything
[16:32] <Sysi> change everything that doesn't feel good
[16:32] <Sysi> why you'd think it has done something to drivers?
[16:33] <dusf> Sysi: everything looks blurry, and because i've no idea what it hasn't _done_
[16:33] <Sysi> that screenshot looks okay on my screen
[16:33] <dusf> i can see the blurryness
[16:33] <dusf> looks *blurrier
[16:34] <Sysi> different antialiasing settings, see appearance → fonts
[16:34] <Soupermanito> well Sysi the screenshot cant screenshot blurryness, thats pretty obvious
[16:34] <Soupermanito> dusf, press your monitor autosetup button
[16:35] <Soupermanito> i guess it should have it, it usually fix my blurriness problems
[16:35] <dusf> Sysi: is there no way other than reinstalling to just revert to the default settings? i haven't really changed much since last install
[16:35] <dusf> Soupermanito: monitor autosetup is hardware related, rather than correcting whatever software changes have taken place, no?
[16:36] <Soupermanito> dusf, you can choose the tango/human set of icons from the setup screen, all your settings can go back to look exactly how it did, whitout installing all things back
[16:36] <Soupermanito> dusf, yes, and no, maybe is just something that went sligtly modified and your monitor just need some refreshing of its options
[16:37] <Sysi> dusf: log out, press Ctrl Alt F6 and login there, run rm -rf .config/xfce4 and press Ctrl Alt F7 or F8 to get back to normal login
[16:37] <Soupermanito> it happens usually after reinstalling drivers like you dit the other day
[16:39] <dusf> Soupermanito: thanks, selected the elementary set of icons which appears to match what i was using
[16:39] <dusf> Sysi: okay, will try that
[16:41] <dusf> brb
[16:43] <Soupermanito> lol i love xubuntu xorg.conf, it has like 3 sections and 15 lines XD
[16:43] <Sysi> by default it doesn't exist at all
[16:45] <Soupermanito> XD
[16:45] <dusf> Sysi, Soupermanito: thanks guys, perfect again :) it's small things i didn't even think to note, like the title bar greying out and attaching to the top panel etc
[16:46] <Soupermanito> :) you are welcome, tho Sysi did all the work
[16:46] <Soupermanito> wait, do we have !yay?
[16:46] <Soupermanito> !yay | dusf
[16:46] <ubottu> dusf: Glad you made it! :-)
[16:46] <dusf> hehe
[16:46] <Soupermanito> :D we do!
[16:47]  * dusf throws ubottu a treat
[16:47] <Sysi> !botcookie
[16:47] <Sysi> no..
[16:47] <Sysi> !botsnack
[16:47] <ubottu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[16:47] <Soupermanito> !cookie
[16:47] <ubottu> Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[16:48] <dusf> Soupermanito: i posted on launchpad about the jockey/driver problem
[16:48] <dusf> Soupermanito: although fps in WINE no longer slows down to 5/6 fps
[16:48] <Soupermanito> :) good your findings might help someone else now!
[16:48] <dusf> Soupermanito: you had me blacklist with http://paste.ubuntu.com/609789/
[16:49] <dusf> nouveau
[16:49] <Soupermanito> ajam?
[16:50] <Sysi> nvidia used to totally fail to load if nouveau wasn't blacklisted
[16:50] <Soupermanito> XD
[16:50] <Soupermanito> so it helped, good, people on the internet know theyr configs
[16:51] <dusf> Sysi: then surely xubuntu should blacklist it by default? i have had terrible problems, and they are not resolved as yet
[16:52] <dusf> jockey doesn't seem to know what's going on with my drivers, and even lspci shows noveau as loaded, along with 4/5 other graphic drivers
[16:52] <dusf> 'Kernel modules: nvidia, nvidia-173, nvidia-current, nouveau, nvidiafb'
[16:53] <Sysi> that possibly means they're available, not loaded
[16:53] <dusf> Applications Menu >> System >> Additional Drivers or jockey shows 'The driver is activated but not currently in use. '
[16:53] <dusf> jockey-text -l > xorg:nvidia_current - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
[16:55] <dusf> i did a echo options nouveau modeset=0 | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/nouveau-kms.conf AND sudo update-initramfs -u | so am hoping i'm now using the correct driver although there's not really anythign to tell me i am
[16:56] <Sysi> if 3d works you have right driver
[16:57] <dusf> Sysi: winehq told me my box was trying to use propietary and FOSS drivers which was causing problems
[16:58] <Sysi> i switched to fedora, one of the reasons was that jockey sucks
[16:58] <Soupermanito> dusf you can run glxgears?
[16:59] <Sysi> glxgears is pretty bad test
[16:59] <Sysi> about any game is better
[16:59] <dusf> Sysi: you don't use ubuntu anymore?
[16:59] <dusf> Soupermanito: trying
[16:59] <dusf> Soupermanito: yes
[17:00] <Sysi> dusf: nope
[17:00] <dusf> Sysi: but you still find time to help people in xubuntu? :)
[17:01] <Sysi> i still don't actually have a life
[17:01] <Soupermanito> dusf, then you have 3D, but according to Sysi it doesnt mean much more than that
[17:01] <dusf> Sysi: join the club bro
[17:01] <dusf> Sysi: i was going to test out debian over the next few weeks, i hear it's very stable and not nearly as buggy as ubuntu
[17:02] <Sysi> debian is older, more tested
[17:02] <dusf> it still gets updated though afaik
[17:02] <dusf> just not every 6 months
[17:02] <dusf> *pgraded
[17:03] <Sysi> debian doesn't have regular release cycle
[17:05] <KM0201> Sysi: sure it does, it's called "Whenever we get around to it"
[17:06] <Soupermanito> !imagebin
[17:06] <ubottu> Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.
[19:05] <dirtycookie> hi i just installed xubuntu 11.04 and have an atheros AR5001 chipset and need help in installing the driver for it
[19:05] <dirtycookie> can someone help
[19:05] <Soupermanito> !ask
[19:05] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[19:05] <Soupermanito> XD
[19:05] <Soupermanito> you already said so
[19:08] <Soupermanito> dirtycookie, you mean the wifi?
[19:09] <dirtycookie> Soupermanito: yes
[19:09] <dirtycookie> is there something else that could be interpreted?
[19:10] <Soupermanito> i dont really know
[19:10] <Soupermanito> :)
[19:10] <Soupermanito> http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6/
[19:10] <Soupermanito> this are the drivers for it, you need to uncompress and make install them
[19:11] <Soupermanito> you need just the latest one
[19:11] <Unit193> dirtycookie: It didn't just work ootb?
[19:12] <Unit193> PCMCIA, builtin or USB?
[19:22] <jozefk> I can't decide to go for K or X ubuntu :)
[19:22] <dirtycookie> Unit193: ootb?
[19:23] <bin_bash> Hey guise
[19:23] <Unit193> out of the box
[19:23] <bin_bash> My laptop is shutting itself completely off for no obvious reasy
[19:23] <bin_bash> reason
[19:23] <dirtycookie> Unit193: it is mini pci express
[19:24] <Unit193> jozefk: Depends on what you like better, what you plan to do with it, and the specs of the computer ;)
[19:24] <jozefk> specs are not a problem at all
[19:25] <Soupermanito> well, for one kde is ugly as hell
[19:25] <bin_bash> can someone explain this junk
[19:25] <dirtycookie> Unit192: ah ok
[19:25] <bin_bash> sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[19:25] <Soupermanito> bin_bash, that happened to me and i had to change my power source for a new one
[19:25] <bin_bash> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[19:26] <dirtycookie> the laptop that im using is an asus eeePC
[19:26] <Soupermanito> bin_bash, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:26] <bin_bash> ahhhhh
[19:26] <bin_bash> thanks
[19:27] <Soupermanito> dirtycookie, i gave you the drivers
[19:27] <dirtycookie> there are no ubntu packages?
[19:27] <jozefk> I like the network manager in xubuntu but I like how KDE 4.6.2 looks like. don't know which network manager is used in Kubuntu though
[19:29] <Soupermanito> dirtycookie, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[19:30] <Soupermanito> D: you like how kde looks? awesome, first time i ever heard that in this channel
[19:30] <Unit193> Soupermanito: I was just about to link that :D
[19:30] <Unit193> I like X/K/Lubuntus (Only using L/X)
[19:31] <Soupermanito> i tried L but its not for me, for instance it tried to install chromiun on me
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[19:32] <Unit193> Soupermanito: You can always purge it... (This is getting offtopic)
[19:33] <Arachon> Hello folks, I was wondering if you knew of a tool to configure and theme GDM?
[19:34] <jozefk> xfce is nice. you are right. but for me KDE is not so ugly also.
[19:37] <Unit193> Arachon: I can't think of one. There are some GDM themes in the repos
[19:37] <Arachon> Ok, shame :/
[19:38] <Unit193> Wait for LightDM in 11.10 :P
[19:38] <Arachon> Heh, I'd rather not :P
[19:40] <Arachon> Apparently, there used to be a "login window" setting utility in Ubuntu...
[19:42] <Dizkonnekted> hello room
[19:42] <Soupermanito> !hi | Dizkonnekted
[19:42] <ubottu> Dizkonnekted: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!
[19:43] <jozefk> nice :)
[19:45] <Dizkonnekted> I have just installed Xubuntu after coming from the 'main' gnome orientated Ubuntu, I am looking for peoples thoughts / opinions on setting up and using Compiz! :)
[19:45] <Soupermanito> :)
[19:46] <Soupermanito> if you want to use compiz just install it from synaptic after updating it, then you have to run compiz by alt-F2>compiz>run and whit ccsm you config it, simple as that
[19:47] <Dizkonnekted> really!? that is awesome!! I had heard it did not play nice with Xubuntu >.>
[19:52] <Soupermanito> you heard wrong
[19:54] <Dizkonnekted> apparently so! :P
[20:20] <dirtycookie> Soupermanito: ehmm i was away and im new at "making" drivers myself
[20:24] <dirtycookie> Soupermanito: the only modules that i have loaded that have to do with ath are here
[20:24] <dirtycookie> http://pastebin.com/TCugs3XC
[20:26] <jozefk> i'm going to try both live cds and see how it looks and works :)
[20:26] <Unit193> jozefk: No VM?
[20:26] <jozefk> don't like VM
[20:27] <bin_bash> holy upgrades batman.
[20:27] <bin_bash> If these updates/upgrades break my computer more, i'ma cry.
[20:27] <jozefk> LOL
[20:27] <bin_bash> Then I
[20:27] <bin_bash> I'm going to try a couple other distros
[20:27] <bin_bash> and if they don't work
[20:27] <bin_bash> i'm going to reinstall
[20:27] <bin_bash> and never update again
[20:28] <bin_bash> okay time to reboot. let's hope for the best, eh?
[20:31] <Soupermanito> i never upgrade, upgrading always fail
[20:31] <Soupermanito> dirtycookie, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[20:32] <Soupermanito> have you already readed the whole of that ?
[20:34] <dirtycookie> will try now
[20:35] <Soupermanito> :) theres where you should have started
[20:35] <bin_bash> Well it booted!
[20:35] <bin_bash> so that's good
[20:35] <Arachon> Plymouth is the program that does the little Xubuntu logo when you boot, right?
[20:35] <Sysi> yup
[20:36] <bin_bash> Is there a way to change the login screen?
[20:36] <bin_bash> It's boring and I don't liek it
[20:36] <bin_bash> (this is assuming this distro continues to work)
[20:36] <Sysi> i prefer automated login :P
[20:36] <Unit193> plymouth themes are in the repo
[20:36] <bin_bash> I don't
[20:36] <bin_bash> :P
[20:37] <bin_bash> I like logging in because I can choose which session I want
[20:37] <Dizkonnekted> plus its more secure!
[20:38] <bin_bash> ^
[20:38] <Dizkonnekted> :P
[20:38] <Dizkonnekted> <-- randomly peeking in
[20:39] <Sysi> every basic setup is pretty horrible with security if attacker has physical access :/
[20:39] <bin_bash> MoC is the ebst music player ever except maybe for MPD, but I've never used MPD
[20:40] <Sysi> i still go with rhythmbox
[20:41] <bin_bash> I'm a fan of the cli players
[20:41] <Sysi> i'm not, none of them is nice to use
[20:41] <bin_bash> Is there a way to automatically rotate the wallpapers in the wallpaper list?
[20:41] <Sysi> one mdp client actually could be nice but i don't want to setup mpd
[20:42] <bin_bash> Sysi, Yeah that's why I use MoC. It's already config'd for me
[20:42] <bin_bash> And it works nicely with conky
[20:42] <Sysi> it doesn't itunes-style filter feature?
[20:42] <Sysi> itunes/rhythmbox/juk
[20:42] <bin_bash> what/
[20:43] <Sysi> i type in the search box and if filters the list of songs according to my typing
[20:43] <bin_bash> ah
[20:43] <Dizkonnekted> bin_bash: DesktopNova is a wallpaper changer
[20:43] <bin_bash> Dizkonnekted, is it in the repos?
[20:43] <Dizkonnekted> bin_bash: for sure!
[20:44] <bin_bash> thanks
[20:45] <Dizkonnekted> your welcome
[20:57] <Arachon> Anyone knows where I can find Plymouth themes?
[20:57] <Unit193> apt-cache search for one
[20:57] <Unit193> er... synaptic
[20:58] <Sysi> kubuntu one is quite cool
[20:59] <Unit193> It's not in the repo, but I like the stargate one! I just need to get it installed!
[21:00] <Arachon> Unit193: I'm using plymouth-manager
[21:02]  * Unit193 didn't see that in the repo....
[21:02] <Dizkonnekted> i love radio tray *rocks out* :)
[21:02] <Arachon> Unit193: http://sourceforge.net/projects/plymouthmanager/
[21:05] <Unit193> How about that... They have the stargate one@
[21:08] <Soupermanito> but it doesnt work, if i try to use it then i have an, hear this, ubuntu txt boot
[21:08] <Soupermanito> not even a xubuntu txt boot
[22:21] <bin_bash> Dizkonnekted, do you know if you can set DesktopNova to repeat the list?
[22:23] <Dizkonnekted> bin_bash: I am not sure to be honest, as far as I can recall it just keeps repeating whatever is in the folder
[22:23] <bin_bash> ok
[22:26] <Dizkonnekted> bin_bash:  webuilder is also something you might search for, its not in the repos though, grabs images from the web and cycles them!
[22:26] <bin_bash> cool
[22:26] <bin_bash> i just have thse 3 i liek
[22:26] <bin_bash> thanks tho
[22:26] <Dizkonnekted> no worries
[23:02] <Soupermanito> question: can xfce4-terminal show the desktop on the transparency mode instead of the just below window?
[23:04] <Soupermanito> you know the xchat style
[23:52] <Mannyuel> is xubuntu lightweight?
[23:54] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu is lighter weight than Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[23:56] <Mannyuel> can compiz be installed?
[23:56] <charlie-tca> yes
[23:57] <Mannyuel> thanks
[23:57] <Mannyuel> unity sux
[23:57] <Mannyuel> i upgraded to natty and its broken
[23:58] <Mannyuel> unity panel and taskbar didnt even show up