[00:00] <lcb> hey.. i like this "- {Day changed to Sat May 21 00:00:00 2011}"
[00:00] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: yes.... and I believe that covers it does it not?
[00:00] <Linkmaster> Eh, I hope. I'll try it
[00:01] <SIR_Taco> did you just say "eh" because I'm Canadian? lol
[00:01] <Linkmaster> exactly
[00:01] <Linkmaster> No, I actually didn't know until now :o I say 'eh' quite a bit when I"m iffy about things
[00:02] <SIR_Taco> haha ok
[00:02] <SIR_Taco> in my repos I have two different "record my desktops"....  one is 3.8.1 and the other is 3.8
[00:06] <Linkmaster> SIR_Taco: Yeah, it didn't work, I had tried it before. It was glitchy and no sound
[00:06] <SIR_Taco> Linkmaster: it's command line.... you need to specify the sound card through /dev/.... which can be a pain in the butt
[00:07]  * Linkmaster is unsure of how to do it
[00:07] <sithlord48> but your sound card should be /dev/dsp or /dev/dsp0
[00:07] <Linkmaster> especially since I have one soundcard. I use a netbook that could fit in a school textbook with room to bounce around
[00:07] <SIR_Taco> sithlord48: .... have you checked your /dev/ lately?
[00:08] <sithlord48> what abotu using the qt-front end
[00:08] <sithlord48> um nm then no /dev/dsp here..
[00:09] <SIR_Taco> sithlord48: then you have a very nice and cooperative hardware sound card :)
[00:09] <Linkmaster> Mine makes me rage :L
[00:09] <Linkmaster> *:l
[00:09] <sithlord48> two if you count my HDMI pass thru ..
[00:10]  * lcb just discovered how to turn FloodBotK1 into a canine pit bull when things gets bad - Just change the nick to FloodBotK9
[00:10] <Linkmaster> wowwww
[00:10] <sithlord48> i has a /dev/snd/ with a bunch of stuff in it..
[00:10] <SIR_Taco> sithlord48: which is what I have... but damned if I know which would be the correct device
[00:11] <sithlord48> process of elemination....
[00:11] <SIR_Taco> well yea
[00:11] <sithlord48> but the hwC0D0 looks good i would try that one (on my computer)
[00:12] <sithlord48> cause i haz a two of them and i know i have "two" sound cards as the computer sees it, or would i use control0 maybe if that didn't work :P
[00:12] <SIR_Taco> didn't work for me
[00:13] <sithlord48> then i would try /dev/random when i got fustrated cause at least that might be fun
[00:14] <SIR_Taco> none of them work.... even random
[00:14] <sithlord48> oh well then thats not cool at all
[00:14] <sithlord48> i have a lot of tty devs... do i really need like 100 of them ?
[00:16] <FloodBotK9> so?
[00:20] <SIR_Taco> ok... I'm stumped
[00:35] <SIR_Taco> it's quiet... too quiet
[00:46] <wn1zid> its 5'0clock and Friday
[00:47] <SIR_Taco> wn1zid: it's almost 8
[00:47] <apachelogger> it is almost 2
[00:48] <SIR_Taco> seems someone's wrong..... ;)
[01:37] <SIR_Taco> the Linux kernel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoPplpBPQxQ&feature=BFa&list=FLkJ5uDxQPDwo&index=53 :)
[01:39] <lcb> wow, that's nice.
[01:39] <lcb> there is no music in mine :(
[01:40] <lcb> in the kernel, i mean
[01:40] <SIR_Taco> haha
[01:40] <KerrMD> Silly question folks. How does one change the icons for individual launcher shortcuts on the desktop in kde?
[01:40] <KerrMD> I know how to change it for file types, .exe for example but that's it.
[01:41] <lcb> KerrMD: properties | click on the icon then
[01:42] <KerrMD> Launcher properties?
[01:42] <lcb> KerrMD: default location for icons, in case you want more, /usr/share/icons
[01:42] <lcb> yes
[01:42] <lcb> icon properties
[01:42] <KerrMD> That is how I ended up changing the icon for all .exe files
[01:43] <lcb> icon settings
[01:43] <SIR_Taco> here... we'll do my country some due: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGTm4u1UWvg&feature=BFa&list=FLkJ5uDxQPDwo&index=54
[01:43] <lcb> KerrMD: wait..
[01:44] <lcb> KerrMD: on a folder?
[01:44] <KerrMD> I was going to say that that is the way I changed the icon type for all .exe files
[01:45] <KerrMD> on a desktop icon. be it a shortcut to launch a prog under wine or whatever
[01:45] <lcb> KerrMD: yes, that's the way i wrote
[01:45] <KerrMD> hmm
[01:46] <lcb> properties | click on the icon. but probably you did on a exe icon.. then changed everything
[01:46] <KerrMD> That sounds like how it is done with GDM.
[01:46] <lcb> KDE
[01:47] <lcb> KerrMD: to correct that you might need to change the icon back to the defauld doing the same thing on another exe file
[01:47] <KerrMD> I hit the icon properties then a window opens to the General tab. The only things that can be done on that tab is Ok, Cancel, and a wrench after "Type: "DOS/Windows executable"
[01:47] <lcb> default.
[01:48] <lcb> KerrMD: if you click on the icon, nothing happens?
[01:48] <KerrMD> I cannot cluck on the icon on the general tab, no
[01:48] <KerrMD> The wrench yes, icon no
[01:50] <lcb> i have ImgBurn under Wine, for instance. if i right/click on it, then Properties, i get on the General tab an icon. if i click on it i get the icon selection options
[01:51] <lcb> KerrMD: but look.. i'm talking about the shortcuts on the Desktop, as you asked
[01:52] <KerrMD> Ok, if it matters I got the shortcuts by simply dragging and dropping the .exe to the desktop.
[01:53] <lcb> KerrMD: where did you change, on the first place?
[01:54] <KerrMD> What was the screenshot drop url?
[01:59] <KerrMD> lcb: This screenshot shows where I made the change http://imgur.com/7iCsU
[01:59] <SIR_Taco> ooooh.... better Canadian song... for those that are interested lol
[02:01] <SIR_Taco> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrkgV5bl7kQ&feature=BFa&list=FLkJ5uDxQPDwo&index=63
[02:01] <lcb> KerrMD: and if you do it again, back to the default?
[02:01] <lcb> KerrMD: the way you did it before...
[02:01] <KerrMD> lcb: Now, if I click the icon next to the "Filename Patterns" box in this screenshot I can change it for all of that type. http://imgur.com/TFObb
[02:01] <KerrMD> Not sure wha the default is
[02:03] <KerrMD> I "think" it's set back to default. A grey gear with DOS over it
[02:04] <SIR_Taco> KerrMD: so you want to set an Icon for a single .exe.... not all?
[02:04] <lcb> KerrMD: i don't know the icon's theme you are using. if you do the same as before select one icon for executables. it will change all again
[02:04] <KerrMD> yes, just a single shortcut not all of that type
[02:04]  * Cibort a
[02:05] <lcb> KerrMD: didn't you say you mess with all .exe icons?
[02:05] <KerrMD> The way I showed you did yes. It changes the default icon for all files of that type. Not for that specific file
[02:05] <lcb> so first thing is correcting that, the same way you did by changing that one
[02:05] <KerrMD> I did
[02:06] <lcb> and reboot
[02:06] <KerrMD> restartx or straight up reboot the pc?
[02:06] <lcb> or probably a logout/in would be enough, not sure. #wine might be the correct channel for that
[02:06] <KerrMD> The changes have already propegated
[02:08] <SIR_Taco> KerrMD: you should be able to select: "properties" -> "General" -> and selecte a new Icon
[02:08] <lcb> KerrMD: if you have a shortcut (not an .exe) on the desktop, you only need to go to Properties | General | click on the icon, as said before
[02:08] <KerrMD> When I try to right click an icon on the desktop I get three choices. 1) icon settings 2) desktop options or 3)  remove this icon
[02:09] <lcb> SIR_Taco: sorry for the echo
[02:09] <SIR_Taco> lcb: not a problem
[02:12] <lcb> time to sleep. wife is complaining she's missing my snoring . nite nite SIR_Taco, KerrMD and all :)
[02:12] <KerrMD> night
[02:12] <SIR_Taco> night lcb
[02:13] <KerrMD> Am I missing something or is it "Icon settings" that I am supposed to go to?
[02:15] <lcb> KerrMD, I forgot. if you need to change that particular icon, move the executable from desktop to /home/yourUserName, then create a shortcut to the desktop again and do the trick... properties | general | click on the icon
[02:16] <lcb> /home/yourUserName/.Apps for example
[02:16] <lcb> ok?
[02:16] <SIR_Taco> KerrMD: I haven't had to change an individual apps icon in a very long time
[02:16] <KerrMD> This shortcut came from /home/username/.wine/yada/yada.yada
[02:17] <KerrMD> These are wine does/win exe's
[02:17] <KerrMD> dos*
[02:17] <lcb> KerrMD: no... you moved it or copied it
[02:17] <SIR_Taco> KerrMD: but it's a Wine program?
[02:17] <lcb> shortcuts are not executables, in that sense
[02:17] <KerrMD> AH, ok. I just made that change in dolphin so time to do it again
[02:18] <SIR_Taco> -
[02:18] <lcb> KerrMD: worry up, she's yelling at me. i think the fire department is coming.
[02:18] <KerrMD> Oy, off to bed with you man.
[02:18] <lcb> hehehehe
[02:19] <lcb> do the shortcut thing as i told you and you'll be ok
[02:21] <KerrMD> odd, kde has a different idea of a desktop than I do
[02:23] <KerrMD> Ok, dolphin shows them on home/michael/Desktop and yet they are not any of my four desktops
[02:26] <KerrMD> I think it has to do with Plasma.... it likes to keep me from my actual desktop and throw widgets at me instead
[02:27] <szal> KerrMD: try the FolderView widget
[02:27] <James147> KerrMD: use the folder view widget or change to the folderview activity type
[02:28] <szal> KDE4 has abolished the traditional concept of desktop icons
[02:29] <KerrMD> that is what is getting in my way. I have to figure out what they've done. Unfortunately the best way for me to do that is to muddle through or I retain nothing.
[02:29] <KerrMD> Thanks for pointing me on the right track, everyone.
[02:29]  * szal doesn't miss desktop icons
[02:30] <szal> never really used any, neither on KDE3 nor on Windblows
[02:30] <KerrMD> I may or may not depending upon how this goes.
[02:31] <szal> the few programs I regularly use I put in the panel for faster access
[02:32] <szal> if they didn't scrap that somewhere in the process, there's a kind of quick-launch widget to place in the panel..  back in the early days of KDE4 that was quite buggy, so I dropped it once I found out you can place program icons directly on the panel
[02:38] <Dragnslcr> The Quicklaunch widget works fine now
[02:38] <Dragnslcr> I put one in an auto-hiding panel on the left edge of my desktop. It's a really nice setup
[02:46] <KerrMD> The only issue I have with the folder view widget is the little + over the icon when I try to click it
[02:46] <KerrMD> http://imgur.com/gjzyM
[02:47] <James147> KerrMD: thats the selection button, click it to select the icon, click it again to unselect
[02:48] <KerrMD> Selection button? I just want to be able to single click to launch as if it were the desktop itself
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> Is it a program or a document/image/etc.?
[02:49] <KerrMD> shortcut to a wine/win exe
[02:50] <Dragnslcr> Try checking out the Quick Access widget instead of the Folder View
[02:51] <Dragnslcr> I have a Quick Access widget, and it opens files with a single click
[02:51] <James147> KerrMD: you can also add launchers dirctly on the desktop as icon widgets (just drag and drop)
[02:51] <Dragnslcr> You could also use a Quicklaunch widget and create a .dekstop file
[02:52] <KerrMD> I tried that but it is not possible to change the indivitual icons that way. Only icons for file types.
[03:02] <ubuntu> алрп
[03:13] <KerrMD> Well, WoW worked fine. PWI took a fair bit of work to get going properly.
[03:14] <KerrMD> In In fact I am still working on it
[03:15] <KerrMD> It works great if I launch it from konsole or dolphin but via the folder view thing ... all bets are off
[03:21] <James147> KerrMD: the folder view isnt designed for launching applications, its best to drag the icons dircetly to the desktop or use somehting like the quick launch widget
[03:21] <KerrMD> Neither of which allow me to change the icon of a given file.
[03:21] <Linkmaster> speaking of changing icons..I need help to change the skype icon in the systray. I hate the green color, since it doesn't fit with my desktop
[03:22] <KerrMD> WB Link.. it's icons all around tonight
[03:22] <KerrMD> :/
[03:23] <James147> KerrMD: are you sure? I can change the icon of desktop files i drag to the desktop
[03:24]  * Linkmaster still is wondering how to change a systray icon
[03:25] <James147> Linkmaster: depends... some application build in the icon so cannot be change... others try the system icons first (located at ~/.local/share/icons/THEME/SIZE/CAT   ^^ if you can replace an icon thats where you would
[03:26] <Linkmaster> Thank you for giving me the location! now all hell will break loose with this stupid skype icon..
[03:27] <James147> Linkmaster: system level icons should be at /usr/share/icons
[03:27] <Linkmaster> I don't even have an 'icons' folder in the .local/share path
[03:27] <James147> though if any application is going to have its icons inbuilt I would bet skype would be one of them :(
[03:28] <Linkmaster> I'll force it to change then
[03:28] <James147> Linkmaster: then that means you dont ahve any custom icons, you can create it with the same structure as the one in /usr/share/icons to override any there
[03:28]  * Linkmaster has no clue what he's doing
[03:29] <Linkmaster> its called 'skype.png' can I simply modify the file and save it, and hopefully it'll work?
[03:29] <James147> Linkmaster: hopefully... though that might just change the desktop icons
[03:30]  * Linkmaster doesn't use desktop icons
[03:31] <Linkmaster> most of whats in my icon folder is simply the cursor themes[which I always wanted to know how to get more of]
[03:32] <Linkmaster> first time trying Krita :P
[03:49] <Linkmaster> internet issues. But I just finished wasting my time trying to edit the desktop icon-which I don't even use. I didn't think about it until I was halfway done. Anyone happen to know where that annoying green systray icon is located?
[03:55] <toyla> anyone?
[03:59] <Linkmaster> toyla: whats your question?
[04:00] <toyla> new to irc, want to say hello:D
[04:00] <James147> toyla: then just say hello :)
[04:00] <TweakedEh> toyla: hello
[04:00] <toyla> It's 4 in the morning in london, thought noone would be here,lol
[04:01] <Linkmaster> Nah, theres people here worldwide
[04:01] <James147> its not 4 everywhere :)
[04:01] <TweakedEh> I'm canadian, 8 PM here
[04:02] <Linkmaster> American, 11PM
[04:02] <toyla> Shouldn't be canada and USA in the same time zone?
[04:03] <TweakedEh> I'm west canada, Linkmaster is prob. east US
[04:03] <Linkmaster> Yep :D
[04:03] <toyla> You should learn from the chinese
[04:03] <Linkmaster> O:?
[04:03] <toyla> same time zone across the whole country
[04:04] <toyla> amazing
[04:04] <Linkmaster> wait...what? how does that work out?
[04:05] <toyla> You just get use to it
[04:06] <toyla> supper at 9PM, sleep in 2AM, this is the regular life in tibet
[04:33]  * mino stares
[05:00] <jagadeesh> what is good vnc client
[05:00] <jagadeesh> am looking for kde
[05:04] <dan_l> it's stock
[05:04] <dan_l> krdc
[05:04] <dan_l> jagadeesh:  krdc
[05:05] <jagadeesh> dan_l: thanks
[05:06] <solovoy> hi
[05:06] <solovoy> what is the best way to install ati drivers ?
[05:10] <dan_l> restricted packagage thingy?
[05:11] <solovoy> yeah
[05:11] <dan_l> I'm looking for you
[05:11] <dan_l> hang on
[05:11] <solovoy> i found this: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Maverick_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_drivers_manually
[05:12] <dan_l> ahhh
[05:12] <gr8m8> !ati
[05:12] <dan_l> look for "additional drivers" under system settings
[05:12] <dan_l> it should detect and resolve
[05:14] <solovoy> ok thanks, i'll try
[05:49] <vbgunz> I chose to encrypt my last installation. Now I would like to encrypt my backup disk and am stumped as to where to begin. I would like to copy the transparency of the encryption I have now which I believe was done with lvm. I'm stumped though on this topic. any help?
[05:51] <vbgunz> I think I might be looking for lvm pvcreate. it's the only thing making sense to me in the manual
[06:25] <ok_wait> hi all, quick question; is it possable for  2 seperate installs (kubuntu and ubuntu with gnome) to access the same game data if i install the same game on both?
[06:25] <ok_wait> well i guess 2 seperate games on 2 seperate systems is what i mean
[06:25] <ok_wait> same computer
[06:28] <dan___> ok_wait:  yes
[06:28] <dan_l> well
[06:28] <dan_l> wait
[06:28] <ok_wait> is that what unions are for?
[06:29] <dan_l> are you talking about just having both gnome and kde on the same system?
[06:29] <dan_l> or on seperate partitions?
[06:29] <ok_wait> seperate partitions
[06:30] <tsimpson> theoretically, as long as you share the same /home partition the game data should persist
[06:30] <dan_l> maybe you could mount the other parition ?
[06:30] <tsimpson> but the question is, why do you have 2 separate installs of ubuntu and kubuntu?
[06:30] <ok_wait> pinguy and kubuntu
[06:31] <ok_wait> it's nice
[06:31] <tsimpson> anyway, most applications will store their data in $HOME somewhere, so sharing the same home should work
[06:32] <tsimpson> the only tricky part may be making sure you have the same username, UID and GID on both systems
[06:32] <ok_wait> yea i was just thinking that
[06:33] <ok_wait> well it's the same kernel so that shouldn't be a problem right?
[06:33] <tsimpson> usernames, UIDs and GIDs have nothing to do with kernels
[06:34] <tsimpson> it's just information stored on the system and in the filesystem itself
[06:34] <tsimpson> most systems (at least debian based) will start at UID/GID 1000, so just make sure you have the same username in that case
[06:36] <ok_wait> right on thanks man
[07:01]  * mino stares
[07:04] <Goatie> bleat.
[08:24] <hyb> hi bot
[08:25] <hyb> bot
[08:50] <uuuser> hi
[08:50] <uuuser> do you know a way to restore deleted partition form hdd?
[08:51] <uuuser> ?
[08:52] <uuuser> any ideasa?
[08:52] <uuuser> please help me
[08:55] <uuuser> ????????????????????????
[09:22] <qua-non> After installing 11.04 (lvm2), I get a error while booting similar to this, cannot find module devicemapper ... could not mount root. how can I fix this ?
[10:22] <bishop> Hello!
[10:24] <bishop> I need help with nfs setting up. Were do I need askin' it?
[10:24] <bazhang> !nfs
[10:26] <bishop> !nfs
[11:45] <qua-non_> kubuntu 11.04 unable to boot on lvm2  can't find root, how do I fix this ?
[11:49] <alibo> Hi, I updated to 11.04 as soon as it was available and since then there was not a single package updated. Did you experience the same? I just wonder, because before the update there were updates every two days or so.
[11:58] <szal> alibo: how do you update?
[12:00] <alibo> szal: I go to software updates and klick on "Check for new Updates"
[12:02] <szal> tried on the terminal yet? -> "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[12:06] <alibo> Also nothing. I will now change my update mirror maybe this is the problem.
[12:08] <szal> you might get some clues from the output of the 1st command
[12:13] <alibo> Wow 131 updates after changing to the main server. My mirror simply did get the updates :-(
[12:13] <afief> Is it possible to configure plasma to start the netbook shell on my laptop instead of the normal shell?
[12:58] <Santa_> Hey Everyone
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:08] <szal> moin BluesKaj
[13:08] <BluesKaj> hey szal
[13:09] <szal> have some clue about PPAs?  ever since I installed Natty on my other machine (2 weeks or so ago), "http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Sources" and "natty/main i386 Packages" gives me a 404 on "aptitude update"..  was this particular source moved or removed?
[13:10] <DoctorPepper> hi guys!!!
[13:10] <DoctorPepper> is anyone  here using  bespin ?
[13:11] <szal> DoctorPepper: if you have a problem, describe the problem
[13:14] <DoctorPepper> my problem is as follow  the panel header on amarok ,dolphin and kdevelop doesnt has a kind of gradiant that i am unable to remove
[13:15] <szal> huh?  if it doesn't have a gradient, why would you want to remove one?
[13:16] <szal> other than that, what is a "panel header"?
[13:18] <DoctorPepper> see by your self :  http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=2277
[13:20] <szal> DoctorPepper: please link to the image itself
[13:22] <szal> DoctorPepper: did I ask you to send me anything?
[13:24] <DoctorPepper> no but  i dont know  anyother site   where  to paste images  so  i though that sending to you  would be better
[13:27] <szal> DoctorPepper: for future reference -> http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/img/1305980286dolphin-bespin13.png
[13:28] <DoctorPepper> ok
[13:28] <szal> DoctorPepper: and now where's the problem w/ that?  (other than a fugly font and non-existing colours ;))
[13:29] <DoctorPepper> see the top of  of the playlist
[13:29] <DoctorPepper> the header of the playlist
[13:32] <DoctorPepper> there is a sort of half circle with two colors
[13:43] <szal> DoctorPepper: my only guess is this -> http://www.abload.de/img/20110521_systemsettingdjvc.png
[13:47] <DoctorPepper> i already have this setup
[13:49] <A_B_> Hi, I can get kate to open and edit a file on a remote machine over ssh using "fish://". How do I get kate to open a system config file as root? I can open a file like /etc/fstab but I cannot save the changes.
[13:51] <szal> A_B_: Alt + F2 -> kdesu kate
[13:58] <A_B_> szal: I tried that but when I open fish://server it prompts me for a username and password. logginf with root doesn't work so I enter with a user that has root privileges, but now I only have read access
[13:59] <ehsan> system tray can't display vlc ico on kde 4.6
[14:00] <ehsan> http://irupload.ir/images/y7enawgav9pt2ym70rf.jpeg
[14:08] <dan__> I just checked outside
[14:08] <dan__> rapture isn't here yet
[14:08] <dan__> fyi
[14:09] <szal> heh
[14:10] <szal> dan_l: according to some dream vision the rapture is supposed to happen at around 9 am CE(S)T; it's already way later ;)
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[14:11] <dan_l> It's not off topic at all.  the rapture is relevant to all things!!!
[14:13] <BluesKaj> dan_l, szal ..rapture 6pm edt
[14:13] <szal> BluesKaj: how do you know?
[14:13] <dan_l> Blueskaj:  wake me up when it happens:)
[14:14] <BluesKaj> it was allover the tv last night ...
[14:16] <BluesKaj> dan_l, sorry i'll be out jamming and having a few beers
[14:21] <dan_l> has anyone successfully integrated gmail and kmail?
[14:28] <Davidius> WTF up doesnt bring up my last messages, how gay is XChat
[14:28] <Davidius> Does anyone know if the Hibernation bug in Ubuntu has been solved yet?
[14:31] <Davidius> nope no one?
[14:33] <dan_l> which bug?
[14:34] <EagleScreen> hello
[14:35] <EagleScreen> I am using Ubuntu wuth a KDE minimal installation (not kubuntu-desktop)
[14:35] <dan_l> k
[14:36] <EagleScreen> do you know what package should I install to have the new samba-shares feature in Dolphin?
[14:39] <EagleScreen> kdenetwork-filesharing?
[14:39] <dan_l> I'm honestly not sure.
[14:39] <dan_l> you mayy want to wait until the pros wake up.  srry.
[14:41] <BluesKaj> EagleScreen, install smb-client and server...server might balready be installed by defaul
[14:42] <wind-rider> hello :) I was wondering whether anybody is packaging the first snapshot release of Calligra
[14:42] <BluesKaj> linux network fileshares , openssh is the way to go if you don't mind the cli
[14:46] <EagleScreen> yes, is kdenetwork-filesharing
[14:52] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, check out smb for gui or openssh for the terminal usage
[14:52] <eagles0513875> ??
[14:52] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: did you mean eagleScreen
[14:53] <BluesKaj> sorry eagles0513875 , that was meant for EagleScreen, but he left before I could hit enter
[14:53] <eagles0513875> ok lol
[15:11] <BluesKaj> EagleScreen,, check out smb for gui or openssh for the terminal usage
[16:12] <puh> ';
[16:24] <mbscomp16> hello everyone. i have a question about kubuntu 11.4 my second monitor will not show any frames of open appications. i have  nvidia drivers installed and both monitors work in gnome. and ideas or sites to check out?
[16:26] <BluesKaj> mbscomp16,  kmenu/apps/systemsettings/display and monitor
[16:26] <mbscomp16> thanks
[16:30] <pastyhermit> How do I get the annoying KDE Wallet to go away!
[16:35] <stevendepp> hello everyone
[16:55] <DarthFrog> pastyhermit: System Settings/Account Details/KDE Wallet is what you want.
[17:02] <pastyhermit> hrm..
[17:26] <lcb> hi
[17:37] <Hal-Emmerich> Hey guys. I'd like to start off by saying I just installed kubuntu for the first time and its absolutely beautiful. I love it more even my Mac OS. It looks so clean
[17:38] <Hal-Emmerich> I need help finding KwinRC though so I can disable the opengl safe check and get my desktop effects working. It isn't in the users home directory like everyone says it is
[17:39] <DarthFrog> Hal-Emmerich: It's in your home directory: ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[17:39] <Hal-Emmerich> I know thats where everyone says it should be, but I can't actually see it there, and terminal tells me no such file
[17:40] <Hal-Emmerich> Never mind
[17:40] <Hal-Emmerich> lol
[17:40] <DarthFrog> Hal-Emmerich: Then do the following commands: "sudo updatedb && locate kwinrc".
[17:40] <Hal-Emmerich> Yeah, I see it now. .kde is not a directory hence why it did not pop up
[17:40] <Hal-Emmerich> lol
[17:41] <Hal-Emmerich> when I tried to go cd
[17:41] <DarthFrog> .kde certainly is a directory.  The leading "." means it's hidden, though.
[17:42] <DarthFrog> Try this:  "cd ~/.kde" and you'll be there.
[17:45] <Hal-Emmerich> ...
[17:45] <Hal-Emmerich> Right. I'm a noob
[17:45] <Hal-Emmerich> lol
[18:02] <mrafcho001> Has there been any development in a KDE ubuntu-one client other than apachelogger's PPA which is now 9 months old?
[18:03] <Peace-> mrafcho001: i use dropbox
[18:03] <cuci_> hi folks! How do I disable akonadi/
[18:04] <SiegeLord> Is there any way to stop dolphin from running executable text files on double click?
[18:04] <Peace-> cuci_: alt f2
[18:04] <Peace-> cuci_: type akonadi
[18:04] <Peace-> cuci_: first link
[18:05] <Peace-> cuci_: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/21/plasma-desktopqG1580.jpg
[18:05] <cuci_> Peace-: there is only some config about it, nothing about start at boot
[18:07] <Peace-> cuci_: ok, wait with that , btw you shouild disable the database so all akonadi
[18:07] <Peace-> cuci_: anyway....
[18:09] <Peace-> this is my blog with some gif about akonadi and more , http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/configure-kubuntu-for-everyone/
[18:13] <mrafcho001> Peace-: what are the side effects of disabling Akonadi?
[18:14] <DarthFrog> mrafcho001: It doesn't get in your way then. :-)
[18:14] <DarthFrog> Or consume valuable system resources.
[18:14] <Peace-> mrafcho001: mmm mah nothing , maibe some little stuff with kmail
[18:14] <cuci_> mrafcho001: like DarthFrog said
[18:14] <DarthFrog> But you will be disabling the capabilities of the semantic desktop.
[18:14] <Peace-> and of course i guess dolphin i guess
[18:14] <apachelogger> kaddressbook will be completely unusable
[18:14] <mrafcho001> Peace-: I could live without KMail, but everything else should work?
[18:14] <Peace-> mrafcho001: try , i did that withtout problems
[18:15] <Peace-> if you get some strange stuff enable it again
[18:15] <Peace-> i didn't
[18:15] <Peace-> :)
[18:15] <Peace-> i use vlc dolphin amarok kdenlive without problems
[18:16] <Peace-> mrafcho001: you will not able to use advanced filtering on dolphin but who cares xD ?
[18:16] <DarthFrog> apachelogger: Kaddressbook depends upon Akonadi?  I didn't know that.  Mind you, I use Thunderbird anyway so it wouldn't affect me.
[18:26] <lcb> any graphical item to add contents to context menu on Kubuntu, by default or by installing any package from repos in order to do it?
[18:28] <lcb> kfind, for instance
[18:30] <darthanubis> qbittorent= awesome
[18:30] <darthanubis> purge ktorrent
[18:30] <darthanubis> proffit
[18:37] <wind-rider> Hal-Emmerich: in dolphin, press alt+. to make invisible folders and files visible
[18:38] <naftilos76> hello, i am on Kubuntu 11.04 (natty) and knetworkmanager doesn't autostart. Is there a setting anywhere to do this?
[18:38] <wind-rider> naftilos76: I think that if it is running when you logout, it will start again the next time you login
[18:39] <wind-rider> naftilos76: knetworkmanager is replaced by the network management plasmoid I think
[18:40] <naftilos76> what is the related plasmoid pkg that must be installed?
[18:40] <naftilos76> anybody?
[18:41] <yofel> plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[18:41] <naftilos76> so i don't get to see the usual network icon on the taskbar?
[18:41] <wind-rider> naftilos76: depends on your distro, I think most of them already install them by default if you have kde
[18:41] <yofel> and that should be installed by default
[18:41] <szal> wind-rider: "distro" shouldn't be a question in this channel ;)
[18:41] <yofel> check your systray settings if the NM item is checked
[18:41] <apachelogger> there are distros built based on kubuntu
[18:42] <wind-rider> szal: ho, sorry :P you're right :P
[18:42] <szal> apachelogger: do we support these?
[18:42] <naftilos76> that is probably my problem
[18:42] <naftilos76> installing now...
[18:43] <wind-rider> does anybody know if the Calligra snapshot release is being packaged already?
[18:43] <Peace-> wind-rider: actually there are a script to compile calligra
[18:43] <wind-rider> maybe in some experimental ppa?
[18:43] <Peace-> wind-rider: sudo apt-get build koffice
[18:43] <Peace-> wind-rider: then
[18:44] <Peace-> you have to use that
[18:44] <Peace-> script but it's not safe for noob users
[18:44] <Peace-> well..
[18:44] <wind-rider> Peace-: yes, thx :) I saw it before, but it would lower the treshold for people to test calligra
[18:44] <wind-rider> if they don't have to do the extra build effort
[18:45] <wind-rider> Peace-: just like the kde pim that could be tested from the kubuntu experimental ppa
[18:45] <apachelogger> Peace-: that will build koffice not calligra
[18:45] <wind-rider> apachelogger: it will install the build dependencies
[18:45] <wind-rider> apachelogger: after that you will have to run the build script
[18:45] <apachelogger> build-dep installs the build dependencies
[18:46] <Peace-> apachelogger: welll that will not install
[18:46] <Peace-> apachelogger: taht will install what you need to compile
[18:46] <Peace-> calligra it's the same of koffice
[18:46] <Peace-> i mean -devs
[18:46] <apachelogger> no it is not
[18:46] <Peace-> omg
[18:46] <apachelogger> they are two completely different products
[18:46] <apachelogger> only that one is a fork of the other
[18:46] <Peace-> calligra it's just koffice renamed
[18:46] <Peace-> .
[18:47] <apachelogger> that is like saying safari is like konqueror
[18:47] <Peace-> so , to build
[18:47] <Peace-> apachelogger: well i am on krita group
[18:47] <Peace-> btw
[18:47] <wind-rider> Peace-, apachelogger: but in #Calligra it was said that kubuntu would provide packages for calligra - it would save people a lot of time if not everybody has to compile it themselves
[18:47] <wind-rider> so I was wondering if there was any news about it :)
[18:48] <Peace-> wind-rider: i guess the best it's to compile them
[18:48] <apachelogger> wind-rider: likely not going to happen before a stable release comes
[18:48] <apachelogger> wind-rider: what you could do is ask the project neon team nicely whether they could provide calligra packages
[18:50] <wind-rider> ingwa from #Calligra said yesterday that people from kubuntu would provide packages, so I think it is going to happen?
[18:50] <Peace-> apachelogger: krita it's the same on calligra and on koffice
[18:50] <Peace-> :)
[18:50] <apachelogger> Peace-: so you sync krita into koffice?
[18:51] <apachelogger> wind-rider: not unless they release something worth packaging
[18:51] <Peace-> sudo apt-get build-dep koffice = you have not to install by your hand all the freaking packages you need to compile calligra apachelogger
[18:51] <apachelogger> kubuntu usually does not package snapshots for various reasons
[18:51] <Peace-> that's the point
[18:52] <apachelogger> Peace-: I get that, saying that calligra and koffice are the same is still wrong though
[18:52] <wind-rider> apachelogger: ok. you say one thing, ingwa says the opposite. who to believe...?
[18:52] <Peace-> apachelogger: i have said the same , i mean -devs
[18:52] <Peace-> you should understand what does it means
[18:53] <Peace-> what means
[18:53] <apachelogger> wind-rider: depends on who you like better ;)
[18:53] <apachelogger> Peace-: yes, it means that you are saying that calligra's dependencies will not ever change in a way that they would diverge from koffice
[18:53] <Peace-> they are quite the same
[18:53] <Peace-> so to compile or
[18:54] <Peace-> you install one by one all the devs
[18:54] <apachelogger> *right now* they are
[18:54] <Peace-> or you do that command
[18:54] <Peace-> apachelogger: well i am not in the future ?
[18:54] <Peace-> or am i?
[18:54] <Peace-> waste of time
[18:54] <Peace-> -.-
[18:59] <floown> hello
[19:00] <floown> I search a program with I can split my terminal control in 4 windows, konsole seams not to do that
[19:03] <lcb> floown: you mean on the same console, divided in 4 panes?
[19:03] <floown> lcb: yes
[19:03] <floown> (sorry for my english ^^)
[19:04] <floown> multitail !
[19:05] <lcb> floown: it's ok. No, as far as i know you can't. But you could have as many as you want tabs and/or terminal windows.
[19:05] <Hal-Emmerich> Ok, next question
[19:05] <yofel> well, dvtm could do that, which is essentially a tiled window manager for a terminal
[19:05] <Hal-Emmerich> And thank you for your help on the previous one
[19:06] <Hal-Emmerich> I'm trying to use the login screen settings to enable auto login, but cliccking the 'Unlock' button does nothing
[19:06] <Hal-Emmerich> No password prompt or anything
[19:06] <apachelogger> http://www.tenshu.net/terminator/
[19:07] <Hal-Emmerich> Has anyone ever heard of this? I notice there was a reported issue with 9.something
[19:08] <lcb> Hal-Emmerich: do you have on that particular configuration dialog, at the top, "Configure the login manager (KDM)?
[19:08] <Hal-Emmerich> I do not. It just says 'Login Screen Settings: When the computer starts up:' is greyed out
[19:09] <lcb> Hal-Emmerich: aren't you mixing environments on that Kubuntu?
[19:09] <lcb> Hal-Emmerich: that might be the problem...
[19:09] <Hal-Emmerich> I don't believe so. It's a mythbuntu box with kubuntu on top
[19:10] <Hal-Emmerich> and I'm trying to strictly use KDE
[19:10] <lcb> Hal-Emmerich: hold on...
[19:11] <Hal-Emmerich> I think I found it actually
[19:12] <lcb> well, i didn't find what i want, but under System Settings
[19:12] <Hal-Emmerich> Yeah. Theres a separate setting for it, I just noticed that
[19:12] <lcb> System Administration | Login Screen | Convenience
[19:14]  * Hal-Emmerich nods
[19:14] <Hal-Emmerich> Thaks
[19:14] <Hal-Emmerich> *Thanks
[19:14] <lcb>  Hal-Emmerichon System Administration, when you need a special function, write it on the top right dialog and search it on the left options
[19:15] <Hal-Emmerich> .. ok. That is cool
[19:15] <lcb> Hal-Emmerich: i'm curious... what app were you using to get that need of unlocking?
[19:16] <Hal-Emmerich> Applications > System > Login Screen
[19:16] <lcb> checking... :)
[19:17] <lcb> yeap.. looks like you have remains or no default KDE apps in there
[19:17] <Hal-Emmerich> Yeah. Thats quite possible. There was XFCE in behind this at one point
[19:17] <lcb> probably
[19:17] <Hal-Emmerich> But I thought Kubuntu would make a better looking HTPC
[19:17] <Hal-Emmerich> Which.. it does. XFCE looked -boring-
[19:18] <lcb> KDE apps are very well integrated, indeed. no need of too much to accomplish what we need
[19:18] <lcb> Hal-Emmerich: XFCE is another story... better for low RAMs systems
[19:19] <Hal-Emmerich> Yeah. I'm noticing that. It's a refreshing change from the utilitarian I've seen from most desktop managers
[19:19] <lcb> it's good anyway, its own way
[19:19] <Hal-Emmerich> It's like 'If I wanted bare bones, I'd just run the damn shell. Give me something pretty'
[19:20] <lcb> yes
[19:20] <Hal-Emmerich> I did use XFCE at one point on an older HTPC setup, though. I was surprised with how well it performed
[19:20] <lcb> pretty fast
[19:20] <Hal-Emmerich> On a P4, Geforce 6200, and only 512 megs of ram, I had it working quite well. But this is an AMD X2 with 4 gigs of ram and an ATI x1900.
[19:21] <lcb> :)
[19:21] <lcb> «Sharing» To change the Context Menu on Desktop do the keyboard dcombo: Alt+D+S | select Mouse Actions | click on the third icon from the left to "Configure Contextual Menu Plugin". Not too much to do in there but useful, anyway.
[19:22] <lcb> ... i need one to add kfind. that one seems not doing the job. but while digging and dismantle my system i discovered that one.
[19:22] <Hal-Emmerich> kfind?
[19:23] <lcb> *to find files and folders
[19:23] <Hal-Emmerich> Thats right. Everything in this is modular isn't it? I'm so used to Search just being there and not being able to say which program I want to search
[19:24] <lcb> yeap
[19:42] <askil> привет всем=)
[19:58] <human> I have a question to discuss
[19:58] <human> Who can give me few minutes?
[20:00] <Tm_T> totally depends on what you have in mind: it's always best simply to state the problem and find out if someone can help
[20:06] <Maui> hi all, i've just re-installed natty and got this problem (http://imagebin.org/154391) with gtk apps: some buttons & menu are oversized! why? how to solve?
[20:41] <jozefk> I can't start chrome except if I run it from konsole
[20:43] <jozefk> maybe I should add it to autostart :)
[20:47] <divansantana> anyone know the current state of kolab with ubuntu server? There is a wiki page talking about it being included with 10.10 server, but not sure if it's working, don't see any release news?
[20:54] <divansantana> anyone?
[21:18] <jozefk> so I did add it to autorun and that's it
[21:18] <jozefk> :P
[21:23] <dan__> !kopete
[21:23] <dan__> for gigles, has anybody managed to get google voice to work with kopete?
[21:24] <mime1111> hello. i deleted ''wallpaperclock'', trough screenlet and plamoid, but i still see it running switching desktop effects, it runs 0.5 secs before config changes, any idea for purgeing it, thnx?
[21:51] <lifeless_> hi
[21:52] <lifeless_> hi all
[21:52] <dan_l> hiya lifeless
[21:53] <lifeless_> When from you&
[21:53] <lifeless_> I vtry bzd speak eng
[21:53] <lifeless_> i very bad speak eng
[21:56] <dan_l> oh.
[21:57] <djh2400> I am in the process of switching from ubuntu to kubuntu; I have a question for which I cannot find the answer online... In ubuntu I could make a script utilizing gconftool-2 to change various settings in the OS.  This would set many things up the way I wanted after a new install.  Does kubuntu have a similar feature?  Where are the settings files stored (in ubuntu it was ~/.gconf)?  In summary, I
[21:57] <linux_> ololo
[21:58] <djh2400> oh, it cut off:  In summary, I would like to be able to modify things like "Desktop Effects", "Window Behavior", and the panels' settings via the terminal.
[22:02] <Tm_T> djh2400: the settings are located in ~/.kde/share/config/ and/or apps/
[22:03] <Tm_T> djh2400: and adjusting those settings via terminal, I'm not aware of any readymade tools for those, but the settings are in plaintext files which are read at startup
[22:04] <dan_l> is anybody running google talk over kopete?
[22:04] <djh2400> Tm_T: it appears that 'kwriteconfig' may be a cli tool to do the job.  i am having trouble locating the exact files, but i will look in those directories
[22:05] <Tm_T> djh2400: ah, yes, forgot that app
[22:06] <jozefk> dan_l: I tried google talk in kopete before, why?
[22:06] <djh2400> Tm_T: also, ubuntu came equipped with 'gconf-editor', which was a GUI to view all the settings.  does kubuntu have a similar program?  I can't find anything in the package kit.
[22:06] <dan_l> Jozefk:  I"m trying to figure out if my kopete is screwed up.  Allegedly, if you open the program and check the properties of a gtalk account, it should give you some options pertaining to google voice.
[22:07] <dan_l> Jozefk:  If you were to peek (if you can) and should you see said options (and I don't), I'll know that there's something wrong with kopete
[22:07] <dan_l> (assuming you're running natty)
[22:07] <Tm_T> djh2400: no, as every app keeps their own settings, KDE doesn't have centralised "registry" like GNOME
[22:08] <djh2400> Tm_T: I see.  I believe ~./kde/share/config/kwinrc may be one of the things I am looking for
[22:12] <jozefk> dan_l: it looks strange on this version of kopete/kubuntu. yes this is 11.04 but gtalk doesn't seems to have all the options I saw few days ago on another distro
[22:13] <dan_l> Jozefk:  Want to earn a few bonus points?  see if kopete-gcall is installed?
[22:14] <djh2400> Tm_T: I know it sounds picky, but knowing it may help me figure things out: where would, say, the numlock-always-on setting be stored?  I set it in the GUI, but is it stored in a file somewhere, too?
[22:14] <jozefk> can I see that in terminal?
[22:14] <jozefk> I don't know how to use apt-get to search for packages
[22:15] <dan_l> emmm----just go into kpackagkit
[22:15] <dan_l> and search for it there.  It will show it to you as installed.  Or not.
[22:15] <dan_l> (
[22:15] <dan_l> (I'm linux stupid, so I don't have an elegant way of doing it)
[22:16] <jozefk> it does not shows anything like kopete-gcall
[22:17] <jozefk> but it does show some gtalk plugin for I don't know what :)
[22:17] <dan_l> weird
[22:18] <jozefk> that's why I never liked those GUI package managers :)
[22:18] <_r1_> hi
[22:18] <jozefk> they shows nothing :D
[22:18] <jozefk> hi
[22:19] <dan_l>      jozefk:  is it google-talkplugin?
[22:19] <_r1_> I have some trouble in my mic configuration through phonon. Actually, it's like booster is absent (natty). Any doc/usefull help around?
[22:20] <jozefk> no google-talkplugin also
[22:22] <dan_l> interesting.
[22:24] <jozefk> it must be some plugin you are right
[22:25] <jozefk> I got it working now. I logged in but no option for calls
[22:25] <dan_l> I will have to investigate
[22:25] <dan_l> (inevitably this will take like 9years)
[22:25] <dan_l> but whatever
[22:25] <_r1_> is that preferable to deactivate pulseaudio?
[22:26] <jozefk> I like pulseaudio
[22:26] <_r1_> so you use phonon with pulseaudio then?
[22:27] <_r1_> Cause I really want to understand if my micro issue is a bug or a misconfiguration
[22:28] <jozefk> yes I have phonon and pulse
[22:28] <djh2400> Tm_T: I have found what I was looking for.  I'm so excited to use KDE instead of having the pestillence that are Unity or gnome-panels.  Thank you very much for helping my transition come more easily!
[22:28] <_r1_> jozefk: did you use a microphone?
[22:29] <jozefk> not yet I just installed kubuntu first time :)
[22:29] <_r1_> jozefk: ok...
[22:30] <jozefk> actually I don't see I have pulse
[22:30] <jozefk> might be I don't even have it
[22:30] <_r1_> mmm
[22:31] <jozefk> on live kubuntu it was there
[22:31] <_r1_> I'll try to uninstall it
[22:31] <jozefk> not I don't see it :(
[22:31] <_r1_> 10)     kubuntu-desktop recommends pulseaudio
[22:31] <_r1_> damned
[22:32] <jozefk> I like pulse but I don't see it on my system now. I have sound that I know I have :)
[22:45] <jozefk> that missing think in kopete is jingle
[22:45] <jozefk> thing*
[22:45] <jozefk> "Kopete was not build with jingle enabled in ubuntu. You have to build it yourself."
[22:45] <jozefk> :P~~
[22:53] <matthew_> Let's do the time warp again!
[22:59] <Linkmaster> Hey guys
[23:00] <mime1111> hello. i deleted ''wallpaperclock'', trough screenlet and plamoid, but i still see it running switching desktop effects, it runs 0.5 secs before config changes, any idea for purgeing it, thnx? i have like a double wallpaper
[23:42] <georg> Guten Abend
[23:42] <Unit193> Guten tag!
[23:44] <georg> @Unit193 Kubuntu ist schon ne coole Sache. Ich suche noch eine Möglichkeit meine Nividia GT210 1 GB DDR2 voll auszunutzen.
[23:45] <georg> Gibt es da nen Script oder developertools womit man es selbst erstellen kann?
[23:45] <Unit193> !de
[23:51]  * Linkmaster wishes he knew German
[23:54]  * Unit193 Also wishes the same