[00:00] hey.. i like this "- {Day changed to Sat May 21 00:00:00 2011}" [00:00] Linkmaster: yes.... and I believe that covers it does it not? [00:00] Eh, I hope. I'll try it [00:01] did you just say "eh" because I'm Canadian? lol [00:01] exactly [00:01] No, I actually didn't know until now :o I say 'eh' quite a bit when I"m iffy about things [00:02] haha ok [00:02] in my repos I have two different "record my desktops".... one is 3.8.1 and the other is 3.8 [00:06] SIR_Taco: Yeah, it didn't work, I had tried it before. It was glitchy and no sound [00:06] Linkmaster: it's command line.... you need to specify the sound card through /dev/.... which can be a pain in the butt [00:07] * Linkmaster is unsure of how to do it [00:07] but your sound card should be /dev/dsp or /dev/dsp0 [00:07] especially since I have one soundcard. I use a netbook that could fit in a school textbook with room to bounce around [00:07] sithlord48: .... have you checked your /dev/ lately? [00:08] what abotu using the qt-front end [00:08] um nm then no /dev/dsp here.. [00:09] sithlord48: then you have a very nice and cooperative hardware sound card :) [00:09] Mine makes me rage :L [00:09] *:l [00:09] two if you count my HDMI pass thru .. [00:10] * lcb just discovered how to turn FloodBotK1 into a canine pit bull when things gets bad - Just change the nick to FloodBotK9 [00:10] wowwww [00:10] i has a /dev/snd/ with a bunch of stuff in it.. [00:10] sithlord48: which is what I have... but damned if I know which would be the correct device [00:11] process of elemination.... [00:11] well yea [00:11] but the hwC0D0 looks good i would try that one (on my computer) [00:12] cause i haz a two of them and i know i have "two" sound cards as the computer sees it, or would i use control0 maybe if that didn't work :P [00:12] didn't work for me [00:13] then i would try /dev/random when i got fustrated cause at least that might be fun [00:14] none of them work.... even random [00:14] oh well then thats not cool at all [00:14] i have a lot of tty devs... do i really need like 100 of them ? === MaximLevitsky is now known as FloodBotK9 [00:16] so? === FloodBotK9 is now known as MaximLevitsky [00:20] ok... I'm stumped [00:35] it's quiet... too quiet === dequire is now known as ronnoc [00:46] its 5'0clock and Friday [00:47] wn1zid: it's almost 8 [00:47] it is almost 2 [00:48] seems someone's wrong..... ;) [01:37] the Linux kernel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoPplpBPQxQ&feature=BFa&list=FLkJ5uDxQPDwo&index=53 :) [01:39] wow, that's nice. [01:39] there is no music in mine :( [01:40] in the kernel, i mean [01:40] haha [01:40] Silly question folks. How does one change the icons for individual launcher shortcuts on the desktop in kde? [01:40] I know how to change it for file types, .exe for example but that's it. [01:41] KerrMD: properties | click on the icon then [01:42] Launcher properties? [01:42] KerrMD: default location for icons, in case you want more, /usr/share/icons [01:42] yes [01:42] icon properties [01:42] That is how I ended up changing the icon for all .exe files [01:43] icon settings [01:43] here... we'll do my country some due: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGTm4u1UWvg&feature=BFa&list=FLkJ5uDxQPDwo&index=54 [01:43] KerrMD: wait.. [01:44] KerrMD: on a folder? [01:44] I was going to say that that is the way I changed the icon type for all .exe files [01:45] on a desktop icon. be it a shortcut to launch a prog under wine or whatever [01:45] KerrMD: yes, that's the way i wrote [01:45] hmm [01:46] properties | click on the icon. but probably you did on a exe icon.. then changed everything [01:46] That sounds like how it is done with GDM. [01:46] KDE [01:47] KerrMD: to correct that you might need to change the icon back to the defauld doing the same thing on another exe file [01:47] I hit the icon properties then a window opens to the General tab. The only things that can be done on that tab is Ok, Cancel, and a wrench after "Type: "DOS/Windows executable" [01:47] default. [01:48] KerrMD: if you click on the icon, nothing happens? [01:48] I cannot cluck on the icon on the general tab, no [01:48] The wrench yes, icon no [01:50] i have ImgBurn under Wine, for instance. if i right/click on it, then Properties, i get on the General tab an icon. if i click on it i get the icon selection options [01:51] KerrMD: but look.. i'm talking about the shortcuts on the Desktop, as you asked [01:52] Ok, if it matters I got the shortcuts by simply dragging and dropping the .exe to the desktop. [01:53] KerrMD: where did you change, on the first place? [01:54] What was the screenshot drop url? [01:59] lcb: This screenshot shows where I made the change http://imgur.com/7iCsU [01:59] ooooh.... better Canadian song... for those that are interested lol [02:01] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrkgV5bl7kQ&feature=BFa&list=FLkJ5uDxQPDwo&index=63 [02:01] KerrMD: and if you do it again, back to the default? [02:01] KerrMD: the way you did it before... [02:01] lcb: Now, if I click the icon next to the "Filename Patterns" box in this screenshot I can change it for all of that type. http://imgur.com/TFObb [02:01] Not sure wha the default is [02:03] I "think" it's set back to default. A grey gear with DOS over it [02:04] KerrMD: so you want to set an Icon for a single .exe.... not all? [02:04] KerrMD: i don't know the icon's theme you are using. if you do the same as before select one icon for executables. it will change all again [02:04] yes, just a single shortcut not all of that type [02:04] * Cibort a [02:05] KerrMD: didn't you say you mess with all .exe icons? [02:05] The way I showed you did yes. It changes the default icon for all files of that type. Not for that specific file [02:05] so first thing is correcting that, the same way you did by changing that one [02:05] I did [02:06] and reboot [02:06] restartx or straight up reboot the pc? [02:06] or probably a logout/in would be enough, not sure. #wine might be the correct channel for that [02:06] The changes have already propegated [02:08] KerrMD: you should be able to select: "properties" -> "General" -> and selecte a new Icon [02:08] KerrMD: if you have a shortcut (not an .exe) on the desktop, you only need to go to Properties | General | click on the icon, as said before [02:08] When I try to right click an icon on the desktop I get three choices. 1) icon settings 2) desktop options or 3) remove this icon [02:09] SIR_Taco: sorry for the echo [02:09] lcb: not a problem [02:12] time to sleep. wife is complaining she's missing my snoring . nite nite SIR_Taco, KerrMD and all :) [02:12] night [02:12] night lcb [02:13] Am I missing something or is it "Icon settings" that I am supposed to go to? [02:15] KerrMD, I forgot. if you need to change that particular icon, move the executable from desktop to /home/yourUserName, then create a shortcut to the desktop again and do the trick... properties | general | click on the icon [02:16] /home/yourUserName/.Apps for example [02:16] ok? [02:16] KerrMD: I haven't had to change an individual apps icon in a very long time [02:16] This shortcut came from /home/username/.wine/yada/yada.yada [02:17] These are wine does/win exe's [02:17] dos* [02:17] KerrMD: no... you moved it or copied it [02:17] KerrMD: but it's a Wine program? [02:17] shortcuts are not executables, in that sense [02:17] AH, ok. I just made that change in dolphin so time to do it again [02:18] - [02:18] KerrMD: worry up, she's yelling at me. i think the fire department is coming. [02:18] Oy, off to bed with you man. [02:18] hehehehe [02:19] do the shortcut thing as i told you and you'll be ok [02:21] odd, kde has a different idea of a desktop than I do === etty is now known as Neftis [02:23] Ok, dolphin shows them on home/michael/Desktop and yet they are not any of my four desktops [02:26] I think it has to do with Plasma.... it likes to keep me from my actual desktop and throw widgets at me instead [02:27] KerrMD: try the FolderView widget [02:27] KerrMD: use the folder view widget or change to the folderview activity type [02:28] KDE4 has abolished the traditional concept of desktop icons [02:29] that is what is getting in my way. I have to figure out what they've done. Unfortunately the best way for me to do that is to muddle through or I retain nothing. [02:29] Thanks for pointing me on the right track, everyone. [02:29] * szal doesn't miss desktop icons [02:30] never really used any, neither on KDE3 nor on Windblows [02:30] I may or may not depending upon how this goes. [02:31] the few programs I regularly use I put in the panel for faster access [02:32] if they didn't scrap that somewhere in the process, there's a kind of quick-launch widget to place in the panel.. back in the early days of KDE4 that was quite buggy, so I dropped it once I found out you can place program icons directly on the panel [02:38] The Quicklaunch widget works fine now [02:38] I put one in an auto-hiding panel on the left edge of my desktop. It's a really nice setup [02:46] The only issue I have with the folder view widget is the little + over the icon when I try to click it [02:46] http://imgur.com/gjzyM [02:47] KerrMD: thats the selection button, click it to select the icon, click it again to unselect [02:48] Selection button? I just want to be able to single click to launch as if it were the desktop itself [02:49] Is it a program or a document/image/etc.? [02:49] shortcut to a wine/win exe [02:50] Try checking out the Quick Access widget instead of the Folder View [02:51] I have a Quick Access widget, and it opens files with a single click [02:51] KerrMD: you can also add launchers dirctly on the desktop as icon widgets (just drag and drop) [02:51] You could also use a Quicklaunch widget and create a .dekstop file [02:52] I tried that but it is not possible to change the indivitual icons that way. Only icons for file types. [03:02] алрп [03:13] Well, WoW worked fine. PWI took a fair bit of work to get going properly. [03:14] In In fact I am still working on it [03:15] It works great if I launch it from konsole or dolphin but via the folder view thing ... all bets are off [03:21] KerrMD: the folder view isnt designed for launching applications, its best to drag the icons dircetly to the desktop or use somehting like the quick launch widget [03:21] Neither of which allow me to change the icon of a given file. [03:21] speaking of changing icons..I need help to change the skype icon in the systray. I hate the green color, since it doesn't fit with my desktop [03:22] WB Link.. it's icons all around tonight [03:22] :/ === Linkmaster is now known as su === su is now known as Linkmaster [03:23] KerrMD: are you sure? I can change the icon of desktop files i drag to the desktop [03:24] * Linkmaster still is wondering how to change a systray icon [03:25] Linkmaster: depends... some application build in the icon so cannot be change... others try the system icons first (located at ~/.local/share/icons/THEME/SIZE/CAT ^^ if you can replace an icon thats where you would [03:26] Thank you for giving me the location! now all hell will break loose with this stupid skype icon.. [03:27] Linkmaster: system level icons should be at /usr/share/icons [03:27] I don't even have an 'icons' folder in the .local/share path [03:27] though if any application is going to have its icons inbuilt I would bet skype would be one of them :( [03:28] I'll force it to change then [03:28] Linkmaster: then that means you dont ahve any custom icons, you can create it with the same structure as the one in /usr/share/icons to override any there [03:28] * Linkmaster has no clue what he's doing [03:29] its called 'skype.png' can I simply modify the file and save it, and hopefully it'll work? [03:29] Linkmaster: hopefully... though that might just change the desktop icons [03:30] * Linkmaster doesn't use desktop icons [03:31] most of whats in my icon folder is simply the cursor themes[which I always wanted to know how to get more of] [03:32] first time trying Krita :P [03:49] internet issues. But I just finished wasting my time trying to edit the desktop icon-which I don't even use. I didn't think about it until I was halfway done. Anyone happen to know where that annoying green systray icon is located? [03:55] anyone? [03:59] toyla: whats your question? [04:00] new to irc, want to say hello:D [04:00] toyla: then just say hello :) [04:00] toyla: hello [04:00] It's 4 in the morning in london, thought noone would be here,lol [04:01] Nah, theres people here worldwide [04:01] its not 4 everywhere :) [04:01] I'm canadian, 8 PM here [04:02] American, 11PM [04:02] Shouldn't be canada and USA in the same time zone? [04:03] I'm west canada, Linkmaster is prob. east US [04:03] Yep :D [04:03] You should learn from the chinese [04:03] O:? [04:03] same time zone across the whole country [04:04] amazing [04:04] wait...what? how does that work out? [04:05] You just get use to it [04:06] supper at 9PM, sleep in 2AM, this is the regular life in tibet === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [04:33] * mino stares === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl === dan___ is now known as dan_l [05:00] what is good vnc client [05:00] am looking for kde [05:04] it's stock [05:04] krdc [05:04] jagadeesh: krdc [05:05] dan_l: thanks [05:06] hi [05:06] what is the best way to install ati drivers ? [05:10] restricted packagage thingy? [05:11] yeah [05:11] I'm looking for you [05:11] hang on [05:11] i found this: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Maverick_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_drivers_manually [05:12] ahhh [05:12] !ati [05:12] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [05:12] look for "additional drivers" under system settings [05:12] it should detect and resolve [05:14] ok thanks, i'll try [05:49] I chose to encrypt my last installation. Now I would like to encrypt my backup disk and am stumped as to where to begin. I would like to copy the transparency of the encryption I have now which I believe was done with lvm. I'm stumped though on this topic. any help? [05:51] I think I might be looking for lvm pvcreate. it's the only thing making sense to me in the manual === Roi is now known as LetMeInPlz === ok is now known as Guest63435 === Guest63435 is now known as ok_wait [06:25] hi all, quick question; is it possable for 2 seperate installs (kubuntu and ubuntu with gnome) to access the same game data if i install the same game on both? [06:25] well i guess 2 seperate games on 2 seperate systems is what i mean [06:25] same computer [06:28] ok_wait: yes === dan___ is now known as dan_l [06:28] well [06:28] wait [06:28] is that what unions are for? [06:29] are you talking about just having both gnome and kde on the same system? [06:29] or on seperate partitions? [06:29] seperate partitions [06:30] theoretically, as long as you share the same /home partition the game data should persist [06:30] maybe you could mount the other parition ? [06:30] but the question is, why do you have 2 separate installs of ubuntu and kubuntu? [06:30] pinguy and kubuntu [06:31] it's nice [06:31] anyway, most applications will store their data in $HOME somewhere, so sharing the same home should work [06:32] the only tricky part may be making sure you have the same username, UID and GID on both systems [06:32] yea i was just thinking that [06:33] well it's the same kernel so that shouldn't be a problem right? [06:33] usernames, UIDs and GIDs have nothing to do with kernels [06:34] it's just information stored on the system and in the filesystem itself [06:34] most systems (at least debian based) will start at UID/GID 1000, so just make sure you have the same username in that case [06:36] right on thanks man [07:01] * mino stares [07:04] bleat. === miguel is now known as Guest25878 === gremset_ is now known as gremset === OerHeks is now known as Oer [08:24] hi bot [08:25] bot [08:50] hi [08:50] do you know a way to restore deleted partition form hdd? [08:51] ? [08:52] any ideasa? [08:52] please help me [08:55] ???????????????????????? === tyler is now known as jebula [09:22] After installing 11.04 (lvm2), I get a error while booting similar to this, cannot find module devicemapper ... could not mount root. how can I fix this ? === dequire is now known as ronnoc [10:22] Hello! [10:24] I need help with nfs setting up. Were do I need askin' it? [10:24] !nfs [10:24] nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. [10:26] !nfs [10:26] nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. === nickmoeck_ is now known as nickmoeck === Ein is now known as Guest81534 [11:45] kubuntu 11.04 unable to boot on lvm2 can't find root, how do I fix this ? [11:49] Hi, I updated to 11.04 as soon as it was available and since then there was not a single package updated. Did you experience the same? I just wonder, because before the update there were updates every two days or so. [11:58] alibo: how do you update? === afief_ is now known as afief [12:00] szal: I go to software updates and klick on "Check for new Updates" [12:02] tried on the terminal yet? -> "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get upgrade" [12:06] Also nothing. I will now change my update mirror maybe this is the problem. [12:08] you might get some clues from the output of the 1st command [12:13] Wow 131 updates after changing to the main server. My mirror simply did get the updates :-( [12:13] Is it possible to configure plasma to start the netbook shell on my laptop instead of the normal shell? [12:58] Hey Everyone [12:59] Hi folks [13:08] moin BluesKaj [13:08] hey szal [13:09] have some clue about PPAs? ever since I installed Natty on my other machine (2 weeks or so ago), "http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Sources" and "natty/main i386 Packages" gives me a 404 on "aptitude update".. was this particular source moved or removed? [13:10] hi guys!!! [13:10] is anyone here using bespin ? [13:11] DoctorPepper: if you have a problem, describe the problem [13:14] my problem is as follow the panel header on amarok ,dolphin and kdevelop doesnt has a kind of gradiant that i am unable to remove [13:15] huh? if it doesn't have a gradient, why would you want to remove one? [13:16] other than that, what is a "panel header"? [13:18] see by your self : http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=2277 [13:20] DoctorPepper: please link to the image itself [13:22] DoctorPepper: did I ask you to send me anything? [13:24] no but i dont know anyother site where to paste images so i though that sending to you would be better [13:27] DoctorPepper: for future reference -> http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/img/1305980286dolphin-bespin13.png [13:28] ok [13:28] DoctorPepper: and now where's the problem w/ that? (other than a fugly font and non-existing colours ;)) [13:29] see the top of of the playlist [13:29] the header of the playlist === Threepwood is now known as Guest773 [13:32] there is a sort of half circle with two colors [13:43] DoctorPepper: my only guess is this -> http://www.abload.de/img/20110521_systemsettingdjvc.png [13:47] i already have this setup [13:49] Hi, I can get kate to open and edit a file on a remote machine over ssh using "fish://". How do I get kate to open a system config file as root? I can open a file like /etc/fstab but I cannot save the changes. [13:51] A_B_: Alt + F2 -> kdesu kate [13:58] szal: I tried that but when I open fish://server it prompts me for a username and password. logginf with root doesn't work so I enter with a user that has root privileges, but now I only have read access [13:59] system tray can't display vlc ico on kde 4.6 [14:00] http://irupload.ir/images/y7enawgav9pt2ym70rf.jpeg [14:08] I just checked outside [14:08] rapture isn't here yet [14:08] fyi === dan__ is now known as dan_l [14:09] heh [14:10] dan_l: according to some dream vision the rapture is supposed to happen at around 9 am CE(S)T; it's already way later ;) [14:10] [14:11] It's not off topic at all. the rapture is relevant to all things!!! [14:13] dan_l, szal ..rapture 6pm edt [14:13] BluesKaj: how do you know? [14:13] Blueskaj: wake me up when it happens:) [14:14] it was allover the tv last night ... [14:16] dan_l, sorry i'll be out jamming and having a few beers [14:21] has anyone successfully integrated gmail and kmail? [14:28] WTF up doesnt bring up my last messages, how gay is XChat [14:28] Does anyone know if the Hibernation bug in Ubuntu has been solved yet? [14:31] nope no one? [14:33] which bug? [14:34] hello [14:35] I am using Ubuntu wuth a KDE minimal installation (not kubuntu-desktop) [14:35] k [14:36] do you know what package should I install to have the new samba-shares feature in Dolphin? [14:39] kdenetwork-filesharing? [14:39] I'm honestly not sure. [14:39] you mayy want to wait until the pros wake up. srry. [14:41] EagleScreen, install smb-client and server...server might balready be installed by defaul [14:42] hello :) I was wondering whether anybody is packaging the first snapshot release of Calligra [14:42] linux network fileshares , openssh is the way to go if you don't mind the cli [14:46] yes, is kdenetwork-filesharing [14:52] eagles0513875, check out smb for gui or openssh for the terminal usage [14:52] ?? [14:52] BluesKaj: did you mean eagleScreen [14:53] sorry eagles0513875 , that was meant for EagleScreen, but he left before I could hit enter [14:53] ok lol [15:11] EagleScreen,, check out smb for gui or openssh for the terminal usage === mren|off is now known as mren === fishwithapipe is now known as f|shy === russell is now known as Guest85732 === Guest85732 is now known as Ekushey [16:12] '; [16:24] hello everyone. i have a question about kubuntu 11.4 my second monitor will not show any frames of open appications. i have nvidia drivers installed and both monitors work in gnome. and ideas or sites to check out? [16:26] mbscomp16, kmenu/apps/systemsettings/display and monitor [16:26] thanks [16:30] How do I get the annoying KDE Wallet to go away! === christian is now known as Guest7129 [16:35] hello everyone === JasonO is now known as Rapture [16:55] pastyhermit: System Settings/Account Details/KDE Wallet is what you want. [17:02] hrm.. [17:26] hi [17:37] Hey guys. I'd like to start off by saying I just installed kubuntu for the first time and its absolutely beautiful. I love it more even my Mac OS. It looks so clean [17:38] I need help finding KwinRC though so I can disable the opengl safe check and get my desktop effects working. It isn't in the users home directory like everyone says it is [17:39] Hal-Emmerich: It's in your home directory: ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc [17:39] I know thats where everyone says it should be, but I can't actually see it there, and terminal tells me no such file [17:40] Never mind [17:40] lol [17:40] Hal-Emmerich: Then do the following commands: "sudo updatedb && locate kwinrc". [17:40] Yeah, I see it now. .kde is not a directory hence why it did not pop up [17:40] lol [17:41] when I tried to go cd [17:41] .kde certainly is a directory. The leading "." means it's hidden, though. [17:42] Try this: "cd ~/.kde" and you'll be there. [17:45] ... [17:45] Right. I'm a noob [17:45] lol [18:02] Has there been any development in a KDE ubuntu-one client other than apachelogger's PPA which is now 9 months old? [18:03] mrafcho001: i use dropbox [18:03] hi folks! How do I disable akonadi/ [18:04] Is there any way to stop dolphin from running executable text files on double click? [18:04] cuci_: alt f2 [18:04] cuci_: type akonadi [18:04] cuci_: first link [18:05] cuci_: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/21/plasma-desktopqG1580.jpg [18:05] Peace-: there is only some config about it, nothing about start at boot [18:07] cuci_: ok, wait with that , btw you shouild disable the database so all akonadi [18:07] cuci_: anyway.... [18:09] this is my blog with some gif about akonadi and more , http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/configure-kubuntu-for-everyone/ [18:13] Peace-: what are the side effects of disabling Akonadi? [18:14] mrafcho001: It doesn't get in your way then. :-) [18:14] Or consume valuable system resources. [18:14] mrafcho001: mmm mah nothing , maibe some little stuff with kmail [18:14] mrafcho001: like DarthFrog said [18:14] But you will be disabling the capabilities of the semantic desktop. [18:14] and of course i guess dolphin i guess [18:14] kaddressbook will be completely unusable [18:14] Peace-: I could live without KMail, but everything else should work? [18:14] mrafcho001: try , i did that withtout problems [18:15] if you get some strange stuff enable it again [18:15] i didn't [18:15] :) [18:15] i use vlc dolphin amarok kdenlive without problems [18:16] mrafcho001: you will not able to use advanced filtering on dolphin but who cares xD ? [18:16] apachelogger: Kaddressbook depends upon Akonadi? I didn't know that. Mind you, I use Thunderbird anyway so it wouldn't affect me. [18:26] any graphical item to add contents to context menu on Kubuntu, by default or by installing any package from repos in order to do it? [18:28] kfind, for instance [18:30] qbittorent= awesome [18:30] purge ktorrent [18:30] proffit [18:37] Hal-Emmerich: in dolphin, press alt+. to make invisible folders and files visible [18:38] hello, i am on Kubuntu 11.04 (natty) and knetworkmanager doesn't autostart. Is there a setting anywhere to do this? [18:38] naftilos76: I think that if it is running when you logout, it will start again the next time you login [18:39] naftilos76: knetworkmanager is replaced by the network management plasmoid I think [18:40] what is the related plasmoid pkg that must be installed? [18:40] anybody? [18:41] plasma-widget-networkmanagement [18:41] so i don't get to see the usual network icon on the taskbar? [18:41] naftilos76: depends on your distro, I think most of them already install them by default if you have kde [18:41] and that should be installed by default [18:41] wind-rider: "distro" shouldn't be a question in this channel ;) [18:41] check your systray settings if the NM item is checked [18:41] there are distros built based on kubuntu [18:42] szal: ho, sorry :P you're right :P [18:42] apachelogger: do we support these? [18:42] that is probably my problem [18:42] installing now... [18:43] does anybody know if the Calligra snapshot release is being packaged already? [18:43] wind-rider: actually there are a script to compile calligra [18:43] maybe in some experimental ppa? [18:43] wind-rider: sudo apt-get build koffice [18:43] wind-rider: then [18:44] you have to use that [18:44] script but it's not safe for noob users [18:44] well.. [18:44] Peace-: yes, thx :) I saw it before, but it would lower the treshold for people to test calligra [18:44] if they don't have to do the extra build effort [18:45] Peace-: just like the kde pim that could be tested from the kubuntu experimental ppa [18:45]