[00:05] <cc_> hello everyone, is there anyone could help me, please?
[00:05] <Unit193> !ask | cc_
[00:06] <cc_> ok, how can i upgrade my distro of lubuntu directly from a folder instead from a cd-unit? (i have a iso file)
[00:07] <Unit193> cc_: I don't understand what you're trying to do, can you change the wording?
[00:09] <cc_> certainly, i would like to pass from version lubuntu 10.10 to the one 11.04, and i have already downloaded the image file (*.iso), i would like to upgrade with the update manager, using a folder like a source, instead to redownloading from internet
[00:13] <Unit193> cc_: Do you have an alt CD?
[00:14] <Unit193> cc_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD
[00:16] <cc_> ok, i'll try, thank you
[00:16] <Unit193> cc_: Do you have the LiveCD or alternate cd?
[00:17] <cc_> livecd
[00:17] <Unit193> Hmmm...
[00:26] <Unit193> cc_: I don't think it works if it's not alternate
[00:26] <cc_> is there alternate cd for lubuntu?
[00:27] <Unit193> I don't think so...
[02:10] <EagleScreen> hi
[02:11] <EagleScreen> I dont know what is the problem, but my EeePC with Lubuntu cannot hibernate
[02:11] <EagleScreen> in the logout menu there isn't hibernate option, only suspend
[02:12] <EagleScreen> but I have gnome-power-manager set to hibernate if shutdown button is pressed, and when I press it, then a window appears
[02:12] <EagleScreen> and it says Cannot hibernate
[02:24] <poltak> EagleScreen: recompile your kernel with ToI support
[02:24] <EagleScreen> what is Tol?
[02:25] <poltak> http://tinyurl.com/pezsya
[02:54] <szczur> EagleScreen, sudo apt-get install acpid
[02:55] <szczur> i thionk it should do the work
[02:56] <EagleScreen> thanks szczur, i will check it
[02:56] <szczur> reboot after installation
[02:56] <szczur> and tell me if it works
[02:58] <EagleScreen> i will restart to test it
[03:10] <EagleScreen> hi
[03:10] <EagleScreen> with acpid imnstalled I still cannot hibernate
[07:39] <bond`> hi, i get a flickering screen when starting lubuntu in a virtual machine (kvm or virtualbox)
[09:34] <ct529> hi! how do you change the keyboard layout from gb to de? I have googled and attempted all the possible suggestions but to no avail .... lubuntu 10.04 here
[09:43] <head_victim> ct529: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1039107 seems to have a solution, you'll just need to work out what the keyboard code is
[09:45] <head_victim> ct529: and a more complete thread is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502679
[09:46] <Neosano> hmmm, what about "autodetect subfolder" when right clicking archieves? :
[09:46] <Neosano> :\
[09:48] <ct529> head_victim: nope, already tried that
[09:49] <head_victim> ct529: lxkeymap ?
[09:53] <ct529> head_victim: I have tried to find it .... where is it??
[09:56] <ct529> head_victim: mmmm .... apparently is only in 11.04, not in 10.10
[09:59] <bioterror> what
[09:59] <bioterror> i cannot pgup, whats the problem?
[10:14] <head_victim> No, it's in all Lubuntu, you might just need to install the PPA
[10:14] <head_victim> Oh he's gone
[11:31] <bioterror> geee
[11:39] <stlsaint> shucks
[13:34] <leszek> re
[14:52] <saesneg> hi
[14:53] <saesneg> can someone help me out
[14:53] <saesneg> my lxpanel is constantly freezing
[14:53] <saesneg> all buttons stop working, and all it will do is minimise and maximise all windows when i click on it
[14:54] <saesneg> has anyone heard of that before?
[16:11] <Modris> Hi, there. I have old pc - PIII with 378 RAM with lubuntu. I want learn litle bit about joomla. Is this computer can handle this or You recomended dont waste time and searc other pc?
[16:34] <mikedep334> Modris: that really is more of a Joomla question. I'm guessing you have about 200MB of RAM free, that may be enough for Joomla and its dependencies (PHP, MyQSL, APache)
[16:34] <mikedep334> or rather i'd say, 'likely' enough
[16:34] <mikedep334> for a basic Joomla site
[16:34] <mikedep334> just don't expect to do too much at the same time when Joomla is running
[16:35] <Modris> ok, i'm just finis lamp,
[16:35] <mikedep334> for starters, you should check how much RAM you have free with whatever it's called (system-monitor or whatever)
[16:35] <Modris> it's only for local learning
[16:35] <mikedep334> Modris: yeah, good
[16:35] <mikedep334> I'm not on lubuntu ATM
[16:35] <mikedep334> my GNOME Ubuntu 11.04 server is right next to me though
[16:36] <mikedep334> it runs lighttpd, a lightweight replacement for apache
[16:36] <mikedep334> but it looks like joomla doesn't support it
[16:36] <mikedep334> http://help.joomla.org/content/view/1938/310/
[16:37] <mikedep334> http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-joomla-1.5.6-on-a-lighttpd-webserver-debian-etch
[16:37] <mikedep334> looks like it should be possible to use lighttpd
[16:37] <Modris> for now mem total 369M, mem used 336M
[16:37] <mikedep334> but it will probably require lots of expert work
[16:37] <mikedep334> Modris: including caches/buffers>
[16:37] <mikedep334> ?
[16:38] <Modris> about lighttpd - i'm bad in web tech, for now i want start with joomla, then see how all optimize
[16:38] <mikedep334> Modris: yeah
[16:38] <mikedep334> lightttpd is a replacement for apache
[16:38] <mikedep334> joomla would probably run on it with extra work
[16:38] <mikedep334> but like you said, stick with apache for now
[16:38] <Modris> clear for now, thnk
[16:39] <mikedep334> I haven't setup Joomla before, I've only installed some competitors a few times.
[17:03] <jmarsden> Modris: If you *really* need to maximize RAM for Joomla, you could install Ubuntu Server, not Lubuntu, on that PC.  So no GUI at all.  That is how "real" servers are set up... you would gain a litle more RAM that way.
[17:06] <Modris> thn. About GUI, RAM etc correlation  i understand. For now the main interest is joomla... after that i will tune other if this project site someday come out. thnk
[17:18] <Modris> search for manual how to correct create ftp user who will work with joomla web... vsftpd already install
[17:19] <Modris> is this https://support.automatedresults.net/KB/a10/setup-user-for-ubuntu-vsftpd-and-web.aspx ok?
[17:20] <jmarsden> Modris: It is easier (and much more secure) to use ssh (scp or sftp) instead to transfer files.  Do you really need FTP?
[17:22] <Modris> hmm... idont know, im not wery good at apache and web file structure ... when i try install joomla with web interface, then on 5.step joomla priomise do all stuff for me. i just want use this.
[17:23] <Modris> ok, maybe You have good manual how to create ssh user for web management...
[17:24] <Modris> will be good that user for web admin can do only web things,
[17:26] <jmarsden> Just create a user and it has ssh capability by default.  If you need that user to be able to put files into special system places, create a group and make the directory concerned group writeable by that group.  There is nothing special about "web things", there is only basic normal Unix file permissions.
[17:27] <jmarsden> if you need a user to be able to restart a web server, you can set up /etc/suoders to allow that user sudo use for exactly the command he needs and no others.
[17:28] <jmarsden> But if this is just an old PC of yours, why are you protecting it from yourself? :)
[17:50] <bonny> how do i move into my desktop on lx terminal
[17:51] <bonny> and hwo do i opena zip file
[17:52] <bioterror> :D
[17:56] <jmarsden> Wow, he waited patiently for his answer...?!
[18:00] <phillw> jmarsden: I must alter the topic to 'please take numbered ticket... currently dealing with ###' :P
[18:07] <jmarsden> phillw: More seriously, maybe an automated notice when you join the channel saying "If you ask an Lubuntu support question, please wait at least 10 minutes for an answer" would be worth trying?
[18:13] <phillw> I'll see about putting it into the announce via chanserv when they logon, although how many people ever read that I do not know.
[18:21] <jmarsden> I don't know either, but perhaps more than read the /topic :)
[18:25] <Modris> no very actual but - how to remove wallpaper in lubuntu?
[18:25] <Modris> not very actual but - how to remove wallpaper in lubuntu?
[18:26] <Modris> and do You use more than one desktop (i mean virtual), and for what? when boss comming or something else.
[18:31] <jmarsden> right click on desktop -> Desktop Preferences and set Wallpaper to none
[18:32] <jmarsden> And Yes, I use multiple desktops, one for email, one for "work", sometimes one for web browser windows... it is a way to stay organized when you have 18 windows open :)
[18:33] <jmarsden> Right now I have six virtual desktops, 5 of which have something on them :)
[18:34] <jmarsden> (And this is at home, so I *am* the boss :)
[18:34] <bioterror> and ofcourse one desktop is full of terminals
[18:34] <jmarsden> Of course :)
[18:35] <jmarsden> Right now the 5 are chat, terminals, email, web, VMs
[18:37] <jmarsden> The work one is empty... it is a Saturday morning, so I'm officially off work, and my boss has not called me for some emergency or other (yet) :)
[18:37] <bioterror> you have red phone?
[18:38] <bioterror> :D
[18:38] <jmarsden> Just an Android cellphone that stays with me, turned on, unless I am swimming or in the shower, basically :)
[18:39] <bioterror> java phone :(
[18:39] <bioterror> you didnt go with the N900?-)
[18:39] <jmarsden> I just use what work gives me and pays for :)
[18:40] <bioterror> im a weirdo for a linux user, i have two windows mobiles :D
[18:40] <jmarsden> I think the N900 is more common in Europe than over here in the USA.
[18:40] <bioterror> probably
[18:41] <bioterror> im waiting a meego device with full qwerty
[18:42] <bioterror> phones are now ready for the core race ;)
[18:42] <jmarsden> For full qwerty, you can carry a bluetooth keyboard... just need a big pocket :)
[18:42] <jmarsden> Yes, I'm waiting to see the first "quad core" phone :) :)
[18:42] <bioterror> lg has technology
[18:43] <bioterror> quad core arm
[18:43] <jmarsden> With low enough power consumption for phone use?  Nice.
[18:43] <bioterror> i can dig url when i get to computer
[18:44] <bioterror> actually power consumption might get lower with more cores
[18:44] <bioterror> as they can share the load balance
[18:45] <bioterror> btw. sony ericsson has good qwerty keyboards :)
[18:46] <Modris> sorry for late, but "right click on desktop -> Desktop Preferences and set Wallpaper to none" for ubuntu it is ok, but it dont work for lubuntu
[18:47] <Modris> about console in all virtual desktop, why not use tabbed urxct ?
[18:49] <bioterror> becouse we dont want to configure your Xdefaults
[18:54] <Modris> about .Xdefaults it need to be in home, right? but ls -a can;t give me that. where i can find my xdefaults?
[18:55] <bioterror> exactly
[18:56] <bioterror> some common sense now
[18:56] <jmarsden> Modris: I tried the right click... think in Lubuntu 11.04 before I wrote that answer for you :)
[18:56] <jmarsden> It works here.
[18:58] <jmarsden> What exactly "dont work" about my approach, for you?
[18:58] <Modris> hmm. i try, but it dont work. hard explain. but right mouse on desktop -> desktop preferences
[18:59] <Modris> when i click on walpapper, i need choose file from filsystems, how to get none?
[19:00] <jmarsden> Oh.  Press Escape.
[19:00] <Modris> "please select an image file" and open or cancel...
[19:00] <Modris> ohh, that work
[19:00] <jmarsden> :)
[19:01] <Modris> and need restart x for apply?
[19:01] <Modris> i go again in desktop preferences and get again wallpaper fill with file name...
[19:02] <Modris> and walpaper dont disaper from my deskto bacground...
[19:02] <jmarsden> Hmmm.... OK, let me play a little here...
[19:02] <Modris> i think i have 11.04, but how to check lubuntu version?
[19:03] <jmarsden> lsb_release -d
[19:04] <jmarsden> Same as in any Debian or Ubuntu flavour :)
[19:04] <Modris> ok i have 11.04
[19:04] <jmarsden> yes... you are right, I saw the Wallpaper (none) but did not reboot to test it before...
[19:05] <Modris> i can reboot for tests, if tjat need
[19:05] <mysteriousdarren> so how far does lubuntu have to go before its an official release?
[19:08] <jmarsden> It has to wait for a hardware upgrade by Canonical for their ISO image servers, then migrate to using the Ubuntu build process...
[19:09] <jmarsden> Stay tuned.., right now the ball is in Canonical's court
[19:09] <jmarsden> Mark Shuttleworth brought this up at a recent Technical Board meeting... it's coming...
[19:09] <mysteriousdarren> good, I switched all of my boxes over and would like to help if could be.
[19:10] <jmarsden> Do you have packaging and ISO creation skills?
[19:11] <jmarsden> Right now I think gilir would be happy for some help getting all our LXDE patches pushed upstream into the official LXDE sources... can you help out with that?
[19:12] <jmarsden> mysteriousdarren: ^^
[19:13] <mysteriousdarren> not packaging, but I can make ISOs and do graphic design work
[19:14] <bioterror> then you should contact rafael for graphical stuff
[19:17] <mysteriousdarren> bioterror: hello I've not talked to you for a while. How are you anyway? do u have an email? or something similar?
[19:18] <bioterror> mysteriousdarren, im fine. waiting for sauna to warm up. you can find my email address from my wiki ;1
[19:20] <bioterror> for this round lubuntu and xubuntu made work together for some icon stuff for example
[19:20] <mysteriousdarren> ic, I am looking
[19:20] <mysteriousdarren> U on ubuntu forums?
[19:20] <bioterror> they noticed together that both favours are tweaking same icon set
[19:20] <bioterror> yes i am
[19:25] <mysteriousdarren> bioterror: can u give me a link or give me a email in private chat?
[19:25] <bioterror> wiki.ubuntu.com/bioterror
[19:27] <mysteriousdarren> thx
[19:35] <Modris> not about lubuntu - just my joy of evening. for compaq evo n160 (old p3 laptop) sensor show 71degree celsius in indle, now i open, remove cpu fan (think about change cpu geal for better cooling) and surprize - there was not geal at all. i give litle bit of standart cpu heatsink geal.
[19:36] <Modris> boot again and +37 - +51 by celsius :-)
[19:37] <bioterror> might work better
[19:38] <mysteriousdarren> bioterror: which rafael?
[19:41] <bioterror> laguna
[19:44] <Modris> bioterror, how better? :-) it is enaught.I wonder how simple this old machine are made and how greate are they manuals, i cant see normal manual by repairing for todays laptops. and this fan of cpu (looks orginal) work great and silent. for today after 2 max 3 year all fans need change whithout questions.
[19:49] <bioterror> i dont sign that statement
[19:50] <bioterror> but laters
[19:51] <bioterror> good evening or night
[20:28] <Modris> i have lubuntu 11.04 and nokia e52, is there guide how to connect together and use net by 3g operator?
[20:28] <stlsaint> Modris: if there is documentation to use with ubuntu then it should also work with lubuntu
[20:33] <Modris> thnk stlsaint i found https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/net-mobile.html but start with only right mouse button on network icon and ... hwolaa, 10 second setup
[20:33] <Modris> and i use net. Great functionality!
[20:34] <Modris> nice click and go for end-user.
[20:34] <stlsaint> Modris: great
[20:35] <Modris> Q how to control update process from using 3g network, or just disable update and whatch own step?
[20:36] <Modris> or maybe is there some network gui monitor? who may be in bacground
[20:36] <stlsaint> Modris: im sorry i dont understand your question
[20:36] <Modris> to check when some traffice increase
[20:36] <stlsaint> Modris: you want to update but not to update on the 3g network?
[20:37] <stlsaint> Modris: you can switch network interfaces anytime, go wireless, ethernet or 3g
[20:37] <Modris> i want minimize my traffice when i with mobile phone. when i use wired it is unlimited
[20:37] <Modris> how to explain, excuse about my english.
[20:38] <stlsaint> Modris: than only update your system when connected to wire
[20:39] <Modris> for example wit windows there are bacground download services (who do update automatic), is automatic update is only when check in update manager or run from console?
[20:39] <Modris> ok, maybe close this case ;-) thank stlsaint
[20:40] <Modris> For now searc for gui network monitor, permanent on desktop
[20:40] <stlsaint> Modris: there is no automatic update unless you set it to
[20:40] <Modris> ok, i understand about update, thnk
[20:40] <stlsaint> Modris: lubuntu will just let you know that you have updates available, oh ok
[22:16] <KM0201> ok, here's my prob, two machines, running lubuntu 11.04   the person i'll be helping, is a bit on the brain dead side, and doesn't know how to open ports on her router... so i set up a "Reverse" remote connection.
[22:17] <KM0201> problem is, when she runs x11vnc -connect MYIP   it scrolls through a bunch of text, and goes back to a prompt, rather than showing me her desktop.
[22:17] <KM0201> everything on my end is fine.. as i was able to access an xfce laptop lke this no problem.
[22:21] <stlsaint> KM0201: what does the text say?
[22:22] <Unit193> KM0201: Just to cover it, you did open your port?
[22:23] <KM0201> Unit193: yes, i did.. and hang on, i'm trying to explan a pastebin to see the text.
[22:23] <Unit193> !pastebinit
[22:23] <stlsaint> hehe i wrote the wiki on the app :D
[22:23] <Unit193> Might be easier...
[22:24] <Unit193> stlsaint: It's a great one!
[22:24] <stlsaint> i love it, use it all the time
[22:24] <stlsaint> pastebinit that is
[22:24] <Unit193> I want it in all default installs!
[22:24] <Unit193> I'm not sure I have seen the wiki (I may have)
[22:24] <stlsaint> need to repackage so it only uses certain pastebin, i only like paste.debian  and paste.ubuntu :D
[22:25] <stlsaint> Unit193: its on help.ubuntu.com/pastebinit (iirc)
[22:25] <Unit193> I like that you CAN use others. By default it should use ubuntu
[22:26] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pastebinit
[22:29] <KM0201> pastebin.com/Sjgecx8j
[22:31] <KM0201> man, wtf..
[22:31] <KM0201> Unit193: stlsaint sorry... http://pastebin.com/Sjgecx8J
[22:31] <KM0201> that one is right
[22:33] <KM0201> FWIW, i followed the "reverse" instructions here... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[22:33] <KM0201> port 5500 is open
[22:34] <KM0201> crap
[22:34] <KM0201> i see the problem
[22:34] <KM0201> i can't believe i did something that stupid.
[22:36] <KM0201> it's working... thanks for your assistance
[22:37] <stlsaint> KM0201: what was issue?
[22:37] <KM0201> i'm a retard
[22:37] <KM0201> lol
[22:38] <KM0201> i don't know how i done it, i guess i wasn't paying attention when i was setting up my port, and i forwarded the port to my zune, rather than my laptop
[22:38] <KM0201> lol
[22:38] <stlsaint> lol
[22:38] <stlsaint> nice
[22:38] <stlsaint> its the little things that get ya
[22:38] <KM0201> yah... the sad thing was, i checked my router settings twice
[22:38] <KM0201> lol
[22:38] <KM0201> i was sure it was on her end (and i'm not telling her different)
[22:39] <stlsaint> hehe just say you found a workaround even though she still messed up
[22:39] <KM0201> yeah.., there you go.. :)
[22:43] <stlsaint> ;P
[22:46] <KM0201> stlsaint: any idea what you put in the digital clock settings, for AM/PM, as opposed to a 24hr clock
[22:47] <KM0201> Unit193: u got any clue on that one?
[22:48] <Unit193> KM0201: %r
[22:48] <KM0201> thanks
[22:48] <stlsaint> sorry not on my lubuntu install atm
[22:49] <Unit193> Why wouldn't you want 24hr?
[22:49] <KM0201> i love 24hr
[22:49] <KM0201> she doesn't
[22:50] <KM0201> i donj't think she even knows it to be honest (i tried explaining it, w/o joy)
[22:51] <stlsaint> hehe
[22:51] <stlsaint> i didnt get it till i joined army
[22:54] <KM0201> lol
[23:24] <Modris> how about 24h time  format and secs, for pm/am (%r) sec is showing for 24h (%R) not. And from where come this input or where i can read more about it?
[23:25] <KM0201> Modris: what they said earlier worked fine
[23:25] <KM0201> is there a guide to editing the menu?... i've got an app that won't get out of there for some reason
[23:26] <Modris> KM0201,  use 24h (%R) but dont see seconds, but want to :-)
[23:26] <KM0201> oh.
[23:27] <KM0201> sorry, i dunno about that one
[23:27] <KM0201> Unit193: or stlsaint might know
[23:29] <Unit193> Modris: If you want info: man strftime
[23:32] <Modris> ok, i try read
[23:33] <Unit193> %l:%M:%S <-- that format?
[23:33] <KM0201> u know of any good read on editing the menu?.. i got a zombie app that won't go away
[23:35] <Unit193> ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml (Not a manual)
[23:35] <Modris> Unit193, thnk for time format that is what i ask
[23:35] <Unit193> Modris: Did you want month/others too?
[23:37] <Unit193> Modris: You should add %p on the end (or %P)
[23:37] <Modris> no thnk, i Y want - give this info
[23:38] <Modris> but Q from where this info? i dont have man for strftime
[23:39] <Unit193> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man3/strftime.3.html
[23:39] <stlsaint> gotta love manpages
[23:40] <Unit193> stlsaint: +1! Offline and online if need be
[23:40] <Modris> for now i install gkrellm for monitoring some resources, How to start it automatical? Something in init.d ?
[23:41] <Unit193> aautostart program?
[23:41] <Modris> i search in console for man page for strftime, but nothing ...
[23:41] <Modris> Unit193, yes
[23:41] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ
[23:42] <Unit193> Modris: The command is   man strftime
[23:42] <Modris> nice, that is the right way about FAQ
[23:43] <Modris> about man strftime for me give no manual entry for strftime...
[23:44] <stlsaint> Modris: you sure your running command correctly
[23:44] <stlsaint> if im not mistaken that is a default app
[23:47] <Modris> i want try pastebinit, but "you are trying to send an empty document, exiting
[23:47] <Modris> and about correct writing, i write "man strftime"
[23:47] <jmarsden> Modris: echo this is a test |pastebinit
[23:47] <Unit193> COMMAND | pastebinit ( so ls -a |pastebinit
[23:48] <Unit193> ^^^ That may not be a good idea if you have private files in the current dir!
[23:49] <Modris> i lost the route :-(
[23:49] <Modris> 1) write in console "man strftime" and get no manual entry for strftime
[23:50] <Modris> 2) i want send it to pastebin with "man strftime |pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com" and get "No manual entry for strftime"
[23:51] <stlsaint> hrm need to find package that strftime is part of
[23:52] <jmarsden> stlsaint: strftime is a library function, so it is a development man page.  sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[23:52] <stlsaint> ah didnt know that
[23:53] <stlsaint> Modris: try: man top
[23:53] <Modris> it start linux user manual
[23:54] <stlsaint> jmarsden: so strftime is partial to manpages-dev package?
[23:54] <jmarsden> The strtime man page is part of the manpages-dev package, as far as I know.
[23:54] <jmarsden> dpkg -S /usr/share/man/man3/strftime.3.gz
[23:54] <jmarsden> To confirm this.
[23:55] <Modris> ok, think i understan. i need install adiitional pack to get this man local
[23:55] <jmarsden> Yes.
[23:55] <stlsaint> yep
[23:55] <jmarsden> Modris: Just do    sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[23:55] <stlsaint> jmarsden: confirmed
[23:56] <Modris> ok,that now is not for me, i fight with beginer problems :-) try understand .desktop files to start programms automaticaly ;-)
[23:56] <Modris> back to FAQ