[01:11] <BUGabundo> (2011-05-21 01:10:53) fta: BUGabundo, your compact mode is windows only
[01:11] <BUGabundo> (2011-05-21 01:11:05) fta: BUGabundo, http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=rev&revision=84971
[01:11] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: ^^^^^^
[01:11] <BUGabundo> (2011-05-21 01:11:36) fta: http://peter.sh/2011/05/compact-navigation-print-preview-and-the-css3-grid-layout-module/
[02:34] <BUGabundo> anyone here assembled a micro atx ?
[02:34] <BUGabundo> with ARM?
[03:15] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, yeah, i know it's not fabien's fault. they just haven't added the feature to linux yet. is the codebase shared, or is it completely different for each platform?
[03:15] <BUGabundo> kk
[03:15] <BUGabundo> nor I was saying it was anyone fault
[03:16] <BUGabundo> much less fta
[03:16] <BUGabundo> :)
[03:44] <Some_Person> Will natty+1 use unity by defaul?
[03:45] <Some_Person> s/defaul/default
[03:45] <arand> Likely.
[03:46] <Some_Person> will it have GNOME 3 as well?
[03:46] <arand> Likely.
[03:47] <jbicha> Do you know the difference between Gnome 3 and Gnome Shell?
[03:48] <Some_Person> jbicha: GNOME Shell is a part of GNOME 3
[03:48] <jbicha> the Oneiric CD will have Unity & Gnome 3 but not Gnome Shell; GS will be in the repositories though for easy install
[03:49] <Some_Person> How do you pronounce "oneiric"?
[03:50] <arand> As little as possible :þ
[03:51] <Some_Person> My brain wants to say own-aye-rick
[03:51] <jbicha> o-near-rick
[03:52] <jbicha> it's a mentioned 2/3 down the way down this page: http://lwn.net/Articles/441578/
[03:53] <Some_Person> dictionary.com says differently: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/oneiric
[03:56] <jbicha> well, it's like ubuntu, not consistently pronouncable
[03:57] <Some_Person> ubuntu = ooh-boon-too -- that's pretty well established
[03:58] <jbicha> I think more users say you-bun-too
[03:58] <jbicha> at least that seems the American way of saying it
[03:58] <Some_Person> Before I found out the proper way to say it, I called it ooh-bun-too
[03:59] <Some_Person> I'm an American, and I've heard lots of people say it like that
[04:00] <mysteriousdarren> depends on the part of the country
[04:00] <Some_Person> I'm from Texas
[04:05] <coz_> Some_Person,  mark shuttlworth put a pronounciation on it,,  oh ner ic
[04:06] <coz_> Some_Person,  actually just looked at this from UDS   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjyNTCHVyxs
[04:07] <coz_> they play with the pronounciation on that video
[04:08] <Omega> coz_: I looked for it in that video, I think that bit was left out of the video.
[04:08] <coz_> Omega,  oh!  mm let me check
[04:09] <Omega> (I was looking for the video to answer his question too)
[04:09] <coz_> Omega,  on that video at about 30.49 it begins about the pronounciation
[04:09] <coz_> rather   26:30
[04:10] <coz_> of course you have to compensate for the south african "drawl"  :)
[04:10] <Omega> Oh, it was at the end, I thought it was at the beginning.
[04:14] <coz_> so essentially  " ohnearic"
[04:14] <coz_> oh near ic
[04:37] <bjsnider> the correct answer to the question "how do you pronounce oneiric" is "however you want."
[04:38] <bjsnider> it's probably the least important issue in the world right now
[04:38] <bjsnider> so it would be better to focus your thoughts on something more important
[04:38] <Omega> I just call it ocelot
[09:01] <iceroot> /oʊˈnaɪrɪk/
[14:06] <sagaci> just wondering when daily ubuntu iso's will be available
[14:06] <sagaci> for oneiric
[14:07] <IdleOne> !schedule
[14:08] <sagaci> yeah, but there's no milestone for availability of daily isos, just wondering if they're coming soon, before alpha 1
[20:30] <BUGabundo> evening folks
[20:34] <penguin42> Hey Bugs
[20:36] <yofel> Huh, we got firefox 5.0~b2..
[20:40] <penguin42> anything fun and new?
[20:40] <BUGabundo> yofel: and 6
[20:40] <BUGabundo> and now there's a ppa for that new branch of it
[20:40] <BUGabundo> weird name
[20:40] <BUGabundo> [offtopic] why 42! http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.douglas-adams/msg/d1064f7b27808692
[20:41] <yofel> well, I know we have firefox-trunk in the dailies, but didn't know we're going from 4.0 to 5 so soon ^^
[20:42] <penguin42> I guess that means 5 is due for release before October
[20:42] <BUGabundo> yofel: 5 and 6 planed for the next months
[20:42] <BUGabundo> maybe even 7 this year
[20:42] <BUGabundo> 8,9,10, and 11 for next year
[20:43] <penguin42> have they got large enough major changes to justify a major version bump?
[20:43] <BUGabundo> penguin42: 5 is meant for early july
[20:43] <penguin42> yeh but what is the 5 goodness?
[20:43] <BUGabundo> yeah, one major one: CHROME
[20:43] <BUGabundo> :)
[20:44]  * yofel backs up .mozilla and restarts firefox
[20:44] <BUGabundo> LOL
[20:51] <yofel> hm, sure doesn't feel any different from 4 so far...
[20:55] <penguin42> they seem to be in major number exaggeration
[21:01] <penguin42> someone trying to catch up with IE numbering
[21:04] <rww> someone trying to validate decreased security support lengths
[21:15] <jbicha> yeah the user-facing changes are minimal, it might be a 4.1 under the old numbering, but it will help get bug fixes & even some features out sooner
[21:15] <jbicha> *it might have been
[21:16] <jbicha> on Windows, Firefox 4 users will be upgraded to 5 automatically on release, like Chrome does
[21:19] <yofel> well, from a windows POV it doesn't really matter, but do they expect us to put new major releases in -updates o.O?
[21:22] <bjsnider> that is the plan i think
[21:23] <penguin42> that would be a mess, people tend to stick to a particular version if they use it in in a large organisation where they have to check it still works with all the sites they need
[21:23] <penguin42> just taking security fixes
[21:23] <rww> yofel: there've already been new major releases of Firefox in -security in the past.
[21:26] <rww> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firefox => hardy started with 3.0 and now has 3.6. The now EOL versions between it and lucid had similar situations.
[21:27] <rww> and I think releases before it. I forget the exact details.
[22:06] <BUGabundo> great... ff5 broke the addon that is the ONLY reason I use FF :(
[22:07] <BUGabundo> NoSquint RIP
[22:29] <jbicha> yes, I expect Firefox 5 to be in natty-updates shortly after it's released, I don't believe Mozilla plans to support 4 once 5 is out
[22:29] <jbicha> so it's a big shift from how they used to do updates
[22:30] <BUGabundo> not that big
[22:30] <BUGabundo> will just be of major release number
[22:31] <BUGabundo> as opposed to minor security :P
[22:31] <BUGabundo> now it adds new features
[23:23] <BUGabundo> when are we gonna have this too?
[23:23] <BUGabundo> http://www.esecurityplanet.com/news/article.php/3934151/Fedora-15-Boosts-Linux-Security.htm
[23:24] <penguin42> hmm I wonder if that's IPSets
[23:25] <BUGabundo> nope
[23:26] <penguin42> well what is it then?
[23:27] <penguin42> because ipset is apparently new in 2.6.39
[23:55] <Omega> We should install preloader by default, so we get shorter application startup times.