[00:05] <truepurple> distracted by tech support
[00:23] <truepurple> head_victim: Are you still there? I still can't get sound to work
[00:23] <head_victim> truepurple: do both devices show up in the sound preferences?
[00:24] <truepurple> What do you mean "both devices"?
[00:26] <head_victim> You have 2 audio devices, one onboard the other in your video card to provide hdmi audio
[00:27] <truepurple> yeah I got both
[00:27] <truepurple> And I seem to have sound now, not sure what I did
[00:27] <truepurple> Just happened out of the blue
[00:28] <head_victim> Ok, maybe you switched defaults or something
[00:28] <truepurple> but I am still having video card problems
[00:29] <head_victim> Ok have you worked through that link I gave earlier? Because it's much more informative than I can be unfortunately. I have never used ATI cards so I don't really know where else to go. So I'd try that link I gave, if not maybe there is someone else in here that has an ATI card and can help? Anyone?
[00:34] <truepurple> head_victim: When it says "$ cd ~/; mkdir catalyst11.5; cd catalyst11.5/
[00:34] <truepurple> $ wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-11-5-x86.x86_64.run
[00:34] <truepurple> $ chmod +x ati-driver-installer-11-5-x86.x86_64.run"
[00:34] <truepurple> Are we suppose to put those dollar signs in as part of the commands?
[00:34] <philipballew> no
[00:34] <head_victim> No, that just shows it is at a prompt
[00:35] <head_victim> And doesn't require sudo
[00:35] <truepurple> So just copy and paste the lines one by one minus command prompts?
[00:35] <head_victim> That shold work
[00:35] <head_victim> Hold up
[00:35] <head_victim> Updating Catalyst/fglrx
[00:35] <head_victim> DO NOT try to install a new version over an old one. Follow the 'Removing the Driver' section below to remove your existing driver, and then you can start at 'Downloading the latest Catalyst' to install the new one.
[00:36] <head_victim> Maybe they should put that section BEFORE the install instructions rather than after ;)
[00:36] <truepurple> Does that include what is installed automatically by addition drivers?
[00:37] <head_victim> Yes
[00:37] <truepurple> Create .deb packages-> that applies to me?
[00:37] <truepurple> So I am suppose to download it via additional drivers, uninstall that part of it, then reinstall it with this command? Other people who have said they have gone through this didn't mention anything this convoluted
[00:38] <head_victim> I would follow the "removing catalyst/fglrx" section then start at the top and work down to and including the "just in case" section
[00:39] <truepurple> But first I have to install via additional drivers, right?
[00:39] <head_victim> No, you said you already have done that and it didn't work.
[00:40] <head_victim> The removal instructions makes sure you don't have anything lingering around that could cause problems and then the installation will install newer drivers than what are currently available in the "additional drivers" in Ubuntu by default
[00:41] <truepurple> So will this install get autoupdated as though I got it from additional drivers?
[00:43] <head_victim> Probably not.
[00:44] <head_victim> But this is meant to be a much newer version
[00:44] <head_victim> The only other option is to see if there is a PPA you can use to get the latest version
[00:45] <truepurple> AFK for shower, its downloading and installing something anyway. What is PPA BTW?
[00:45] <UndiFineD> !ppa
[00:45] <ubot2> A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk.
[00:46] <UndiFineD> using ppa can be dangerously unstable
[00:47] <head_victim> truepurple: I have to head off for a bit myself to get some shopping done. Hopefully that link works out for you, if not hopefully someone else here can pick up with helping you.
[00:48] <truepurple> So should I use a PPA or not, and how come other people can just install through additional drivers?
[00:49] <UndiFineD> yes that should be the way, but I dont have ATI myself, so it is hard for me to help you here
[00:50] <truepurple> Why though can someone else with the exact same video card and monitor just do it through additional drivers though?
[03:16] <Proz01d> i'm running ubuntu server 10.04 and i want to restore my default firewall settings.. i did back them up but when i went to restore the file was size 0
[03:20] <holstein> Proz01d: hello
[03:20] <holstein> check out https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html
[03:21]  * holstein is browsing it
[03:22] <Proz01d> yeah i did
[03:22] <Proz01d> i had to disable everything to get my vpn tunnelling working
[03:23] <Proz01d> but wanted to restore some settings to make sure it's still secure
[03:25] <holstein> Proz01d: you have it out in the DMZ ?
[03:25] <holstein> *of your router?
[03:28] <Proz01d> yes
[03:29] <truepurple> It seems ubuntu sleep mode that automatically triggers when I am not at the keys, even with a active download, can screw up my internet connection, at least I think that is the cause
[03:29] <truepurple> How do I stop this?
[03:31] <holstein> truepurple: im not sure where the settings are in unity, but you are looking for power management
[03:32] <truepurple> But how do I get it so it does suspend, but ongoing download or install does not count as inactivity to the system?
[03:33] <holstein> hmmm, not sure about that
[03:33] <holstein> i just dont have my computer do things on its own
[03:34] <truepurple> Instead you sit and stare at a install or download screen when you have other things you need to do?
[03:34] <holstein> they'll always be some kind of internet traffic
[03:34] <holstein> truepurple: ?
[03:34] <holstein> i just download things
[03:34] <holstein> and leave the computer running
[03:44] <Proz01d> how do i update ubuntu from the command line?
[03:44] <Proz01d> i did sudo apt-get update
[03:44] <holstein> Proz01d: sudo apt-get update
[03:44] <holstein> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:44] <Proz01d> is that it?
[03:45] <Proz01d> okay..
[03:45] <Proz01d> sweet
[03:45] <holstein> Proz01d: i think, if you have that box outside in the DMZ, you might want to think about shorewall
[03:46] <holstein> the few server guys ive talked to really like it
[03:46] <Proz01d> i need to keep things lightweight as i don't have very much cpu / ram
[03:46] <Proz01d> so the fewer programs the better
[03:47] <holstein> sure
[03:47] <holstein> im thinking it might be as simple as resetting the iptables info
[03:47] <holstein> *to default
[04:06] <Proz01d> holstein: how do you do that?
[04:07] <holstein> Proz01d: im just googling around, so you should ask someone else first maybe
[04:07] <holstein> but, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217085
[05:04] <Proz01d> holstein thanks i'll take a look
[05:04] <holstein> Proz01d: sure
[05:06] <Proz01d> i think i'll just boot my vm and check ...
[07:06] <duanedeisgn> it was once termed black wakk street abd tgeb burned the ground while national guard heklpicoters and state opolice improsioned all the Frican Naricans in the PVILLIONsomeone  having ati gra[hics porblrms?
[07:07] <duanedeisgn> lol
[07:07] <duanedeisgn> igeore that \
[07:08] <duanedeisgn> tryinti watv=ch family guy at the szme tume
[07:08] <duanedeisgn> tryinti watv=ch family guy at the szme tume/5
[07:09] <s7nf> guys, is it possible to have both gnome and unity dektops? So i can change between them on the fly
[07:12] <head_victim> s7nf: the closest you will get is having them both installed and having to log out of one and back into another
[07:13] <head_victim> I'm not sure if that's "on the fly" enough or not though
[07:14] <s7nf> ok, that's enough. So what do I do? Can I have unity on my ubuntu 10.10?
[07:18] <duanedeisgn> 5/5
[07:26] <head_victim> s7nf: I've done some research, it should be as simple as "sudo apt-get install unity" or just looking for the unity package in your favourite gui installation program
[07:27] <head_victim> The only thing is it might be the netbook version which I'm not 100% is the same or not
[07:30] <s7nf> head_victim, seems so, but i've also found this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/unity-2d-ppa-for-ubuntu-10-10-users/ which says that you need a port to maverick, the unity 2D
[07:32] <head_victim> s7nf: seems like you may be right, that points to http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/unity-compiz-wont-be-backported-to-maverick/ so that unity package is probably the netbook one
[07:33] <s7nf> head_victim, thx for your helps, I think I'll just wait for a bit more
[07:33] <head_victim> Or try upgrading to 11.04 :)
[07:38] <s7nf> head_victim, is it stable enough?
[07:43] <head_victim> s7nf: I've not tried it personally haven't had the time to upgrade on this machine and my other machine runs lts's
[10:12] <KinkyPinkie> hey again! i'm trying to mount my ios4 to 10.10 and following http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/get-ios4-mountsync-working-in-ubuntu.html. it tells me to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and I read somewhere that it will upgrade my installation to narwhal :/
[10:12] <KinkyPinkie> is it safe without getting 11.04?
[10:32] <KinkyPinkie> nvm acctually. it didnt do much.  cant seem to mount still though
[11:23] <coalwater> KinkyPinkie, you don't need to upgrade if you don't want to, a lot of people are still using 10.10
[11:24] <KinkyPinkie> yea, it was allright :) thanks
[11:31] <stlsaint> kinkypinkie.....interesting
[11:32] <bioterror> :D
[12:02] <KinkyPinkie> stlsaint: ?
[12:03] <stlsaint> KinkyPinkie: yes?
[12:03] <KinkyPinkie> interresting what?
[12:03] <stlsaint> nick
[12:03] <KinkyPinkie> o
[12:03] <stlsaint> KinkyPinkie: care to share where you are from?
[12:04] <KinkyPinkie> i'm from norway. my classmates started cailling me that when I dyed my hair pink again
[12:04] <KinkyPinkie> calling*
[12:04] <stlsaint> oh ok
[12:04]  * philinux likes pink
[12:05] <KinkyPinkie> ;D
[12:06]  * stlsaint is going to walk away safely.....
[12:07] <stlsaint> maybe ill just stick to nina :D
[12:07] <KinkyPinkie> hehe, call me what you like, hilight is nice tho:p
[12:09] <stlsaint> call you hilight?
[12:09] <KinkyPinkie> the irssi hilight:P
[12:10] <stlsaint> ah you use irssi?
[12:10] <KinkyPinkie> mm
[12:10] <bioterror> norsk!
[12:10] <KinkyPinkie> weee
[12:10] <stlsaint> bioterror: man i try so hard to understand what you talk about on facebook but ima need more english outta you o_O
[12:10] <KinkyPinkie> rbk
[12:11] <bioterror> stlsaint, hahaha :)
[12:11] <stlsaint> bioterror: lol i had to have the same convo with pablorubianes !!
[12:12] <stlsaint> KinkyPinkie: what brings ya to the BT? friend, forums, ?
[12:12] <stlsaint> TheDaniel0108: poke
[12:13] <stlsaint> Maratich: hello
[12:13] <Maratich> hi
[12:13] <TheDaniel0108> stlsaint: hi
[12:13] <bioterror> stlsaint, she heard that we have here one matthew!
[12:13] <stlsaint> bioterror: thats good enough reason for me
[12:14] <stlsaint> TheDaniel0108: hey, i dont think we have ever spoken and i have a few quiet minutes here so saying hello to all the folks i dont know
[12:14] <stlsaint> Maratich: ^^
[12:14] <bioterror> stlsaint, rich oil sheikh ;)
[12:14] <TheDaniel0108> stlsaint: I'm Daniel0108 :P
[12:14] <stlsaint> ohai
[12:15] <KinkyPinkie> stlsaint: I just didnt know people who could help me with linux problems i had, and google didnt quite help me out much rather than showing me ubuntu beginners. didnt know it was like a club or something :p
[12:15] <Maratich> странно, ну ладно...
[12:15] <stlsaint> bioterror: HA (its funny cause i dont know what sheikh means)
[12:15] <stlsaint> KinkyPinkie: no club in this channel, just love :D
[12:15] <KinkyPinkie> wee love<3
[12:16] <stlsaint> ima get a script that turns all non-english lettering into emoticons
[12:16] <TheDaniel0108> this is not an off-topic channel, lol
[12:16] <TheDaniel0108> #ubuntu-beginners-team is off-topic ;)
[12:16] <KinkyPinkie> wohoo even better! troll-playground
[12:16] <bioterror> stlsaint, it's a guy with funny towel around his head and they throw money :D http://termite.apcdn.com/full/40736.gif
[12:16]  * KinkyPinkie is quite the troll
[12:17] <stlsaint> KinkyPinkie: we use the ban hammer on trolls :P
[12:17] <KinkyPinkie> D:
[12:17]  * KinkyPinkie will behave :) got enough tards to troll in other channels anyway :p
[12:17] <bioterror> stlsaint, that gif rules :D
[12:17] <stlsaint> bioterror: LOL whoa
[12:17] <stlsaint> so suttle
[12:18]  * stlsaint is going to migrate before TheDaniel0108 writes a letter to council on me :P
[12:18] <Sidewinder1> !gr > Maratich
[12:18] <ubot2> Maratich, please see my private message
[12:18] <stlsaint> KinkyPinkie: that means moving in the off topic channel
[12:19] <KinkyPinkie> so where are you from, stlsaint ?:)
[12:19] <Maratich> !ru>Maratich
[12:19] <ubot2> Maratich, please see my private message
[12:19] <stlsaint> Maratich: just gonna message yourself ay?
[12:19] <Maratich> no, i'm Russian
[12:19] <Maratich> not greek
[12:20]  * stlsaint *whispers* ssshhhhhhh we cant talk here, must go to #ubuntu-beginners-team
[12:20] <Maratich> and nothing new ubot2 talks
[12:20] <Maratich> !ban Maratich
[12:20] <ubot2> Factoid 'ban Maratich' not found
[12:20] <Maratich> :(
[12:23] <Sidewinder1> Maratich, Sorry, I always have trouble differentiating between Cyrillic and Greek; maybe it's my fonts...
[12:23] <Sidewinder1> Or my eyes...
[12:23] <Maratich> :) dont worry
[15:15] <farrinux> Hello all
[15:26] <JackyAlcine> Afternoon farrinux
[15:30] <farrinux> afternoon
[15:31] <farrinux> Actually it's 9:31 am for me
[16:29] <newbuntu> hi
[16:30] <KinkyPinkie> hey
[16:31] <newbuntu> just checking out these channels for the first time
[16:31] <KinkyPinkie> welcome
[16:31] <newbuntu> thanks
[16:32] <newbuntu> kinda quiet out here
[16:32] <philinux> newbuntu: try joining #ubuntu
[16:33] <newbuntu> ok
[16:33] <philinux> newbuntu: it's crazy mind lol
[16:34] <holstein> newbuntu: #ubuntu-beginners-team is the OT, more social channel :)
[19:14] <beachbuddah> Hi all - reinstalled 10.10 on the wrong drive.  Now it says I don't have permission to remove the files.
[19:15] <bioterror> use sudo
[19:15] <beachbuddah> Additionally, can I retrieve any of the overwritten data from the disk from before it was formatted?
[19:15] <beachbuddah> I don't know what to say in the terminal
[19:19] <sattu94> beachbuddah: uh, b4 you overwrote, it said you wont be able to recover because you OVERWROTE it! :|
[19:20] <sattu94> beachbuddah: AFAIK theres no way u can recover the overwritten data!
[19:20] <beachbuddah> ok - figured I would ask
[19:21] <bioterror> hmmm
[19:21] <bioterror> photorec can dig something
[19:22] <beachbuddah> photorec a command or a program?
[19:22] <bioterror> something between
[19:23] <beachbuddah> k  - I'm at their website now
[19:24] <beachbuddah> thanks for the suggestion bioterror - I'll give it a try
[19:24] <sattu94> i gues it'll be able to recover only those parts that were not overwritten, but were just marked for overwriting in the future(therefore qualifying as free space)..
[19:24] <beachbuddah> right - I'm new and don't know the parameters of an Ubuntu format
[19:25] <sattu94> ?
[19:25] <beachbuddah> well - if it's like windows, then you can definitely recover formatted drives
[19:26] <beachbuddah> I wasn't sure if the formatting was more extensive in Ubuntu
[19:26] <sattu94> beachbuddah: tahts only true if u quick formatted it, it just marks everything as free space
[19:26] <sattu94> and overwrites later on when u want to use it.
[19:27] <sattu94> but in normal formatting it physically removes everything and then writes.
[19:27] <beachbuddah> then who knows - maybe everything I want back will be recoverable
[19:27] <sattu94> i dont think so. some part of that marked data will probably have been overwritten, other unoverwritten data will probably be in NTFS format,
[19:28] <sattu94> i.e. if you used windows earlier
[19:28] <sattu94> and since u r using ubuntu, that tool MIGHT not be able to recover NTFS
[19:28] <beachbuddah> hmmm - now that could be a problem
[19:29] <sattu94> however best of luck, may you get what you deserve..:D
[19:29] <beachbuddah> lol - thanks
[19:31] <bioterror> next time: double check
[19:40] <beachbuddah> bioterror - you're right - I was tired and impatient
[23:02] <Error404NotFound> you alive bioterror?
[23:03] <Error404NotFound> holstein:
[23:03] <Captainkrtek> hey Error404NotFound
[23:03] <Error404NotFound> ooh
[23:03] <Error404NotFound> i need yer flash thingy again
[23:04] <Error404NotFound> that was you yes?
[23:06] <Error404NotFound> Captainkrtek:
[23:06] <Captainkrtek> yes
[23:06] <Captainkrtek> http://rootzwiki.com/flash.sh
[23:07] <Captainkrtek> err
[23:07] <Captainkrtek> let me find it
[23:07] <Error404NotFound> sweet
[23:07] <Error404NotFound> i have another issue also
[23:07] <Error404NotFound> docky says it needs composting enabled
[23:07] <Error404NotFound> no idea what that is
[23:08] <Captainkrtek> Error404NotFound, slashdev.org/flash.sh
[23:09] <Captainkrtek> Error404NotFound, Ill look into that for you as well
[23:09] <Captainkrtek> Error404NotFound, try this: gconftool-2 -s --type bool /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager true
[23:09] <Captainkrtek> then restart docky
[23:10] <Error404NotFound> wth
[23:10] <Error404NotFound> terminal?
[23:10] <Error404NotFound> ooh that worked
[23:14] <Captainkrtek> Error404NotFound, great :-)
[23:16] <Error404NotFound> and flash works yay
[23:17] <Error404NotFound> you are genetically superior
[23:17] <Captainkrtek> hahaha
[23:21]  * Error404NotFound is in the proccess of transfering music from windows partition to linux
[23:21] <Error404NotFound> then i delete winders
[23:23] <Captainkrtek> very cool :)
[23:23] <Error404NotFound> on my laptop that is
[23:24] <Error404NotFound> not ready to eliminate windows from my desktop quite yet