| bluefoxicy | 1531 root 20 0 350m 166m 11m R 85 4.5 0:27.97 update-apt-xapi | 00:45 |
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| bluefoxicy | what is this process | 00:45 |
| cjwatson | update-apt-xapian-index | 00:49 |
| bluefoxicy | cjwatson: it eats a LOT of CPU, for reasons I'm not sure of. | 00:52 |
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| lucidfox | bluefoxicy, I also ran into that problem | 06:31 |
| lucidfox | with update-apt-xapian-index hogging CPU | 06:31 |
| ohsix | slow drive / lots of files? it's ran periodically and niced; it will use some cpu to do its work | 06:33 |
| lucidfox | "Some" CPU? More like 99% | 07:07 |
| lucidfox | not on this computer, on my work one | 07:07 |
| lucidfox | Also, what's with the build failures? | 07:08 |
| lucidfox | actually, wait | 07:09 |
| lucidfox | hrm | 07:10 |
| lucidfox | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/72114285/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.steadyflow_0.1.6-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 07:10 |
| lucidfox | any idea why this is failing? | 07:10 |
| lucidfox | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 07:10 |
| lucidfox | libnotify4-dev : Depends: libnotify4 (= 0.7.2-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed | 07:10 |
| lucidfox | oh right, libnotify4 was removed from oneiric while the package was in NEW? o_O | 07:15 |
| ohsix | lucidfox: run it manually and see what it's doing | 07:29 |
| ohsix | if it isn't i/o bound i don't see why it wouldn't use the cpu available | 07:30 |
| lucidfox | Well, I fixed it already. It failed because libnotify4-dev was not completely removed from oneiric yet, and the buildd never even considered libnotify-dev | 07:30 |
| lucidfox | I've removed libnotify4-dev and left only libnotify-dev | 07:30 |
| ohsix | interesting | 07:32 |
| lucidfox | ...oh what now... dput is not accepting my signature | 08:09 |
| lucidfox | Huh, but it did upload | 08:12 |
| lucidfox | dput complained on .changes about "verification failed 3 times (no public key)", but then I received a mail saying the package did get accepted | 08:13 |
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| Laney | launchpad bug | 08:37 |
| pitti | hallyn: libcap2> getting it through autosyncs is deal IMHO | 09:56 |
| pitti | broder: ah, thanks for confirming; that was my impression, too | 09:56 |
| pitti | SpamapS: ok, will do a round of SRU | 09:57 |
| cjwatson | doko_: may I merge eina? | 09:59 |
| doko_ | cjwatson: sure, merge anything you can't resist =) | 10:00 |
| cjwatson | heh, just trying to reduce the FTBFS list a bit | 10:00 |
| apw | anyone else seeing issues with uploads to ubuntu ? | 11:14 |
| cjwatson | apw: if it's just verification-failed messages, ignore them | 11:15 |
| cjwatson | it's a known LP bug | 11:16 |
| cjwatson | your upload was successful | 11:16 |
| cjwatson | (I checked) | 11:16 |
| apw | cjwatson, ahh thanks | 11:17 |
| cjwatson | oh, for goodness' sake - eina is failing a test of some silly joke function | 11:38 |
| cjwatson | and doesn't fail on the porter box | 11:38 |
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| bluefoxicy | does Cool'n'Quiet work in Ubuntu? | 16:00 |
| bluefoxicy | I heard you need powernow-k8 loaded in the kernel | 16:00 |
| bluefoxicy | which is compiled in | 16:01 |
| hv | is appmenu not working properly at the moment (oneiric)? | 16:11 |
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| bluefoxicy | yay | 16:56 |
| bluefoxicy | my 31 line bash script to monitor my CPU temperature works! | 16:56 |
| bluefoxicy | now if my computer is at risk of overheating, it'll send SIGSTOP to a bunch of stuff and then wait for it to cool down. | 16:56 |
| ion | How about fixing the cooling instead? :-) | 16:59 |
| bluefoxicy | ion: I tried that, too :) | 16:59 |
| bluefoxicy | i suggested also that maybe a small daemon that throttles back the system in interesting ways when the threat of overheating is present would be useful, and people were vehemently against the idea of software fixing a hardware problem | 17:00 |
| ion | I should do that for my laptop. The thermal grease probably needs reapplying. | 17:00 |
| bluefoxicy | The discussion kind of broke down after I recommended to the entire mailing list to remove everything tied to "fsck" since the real solution is to fix your disk/power source | 17:00 |
| bluefoxicy | there's also that silly checksum thing in the kernel, that checks if dirty blocks are corrupted (due to bad RAM) before writing them back to disk; again, the real solution is to replace the faulty RAM ... | 17:01 |
| bcurtiswx | i have a 32 bit build machine, is there any way to get it to build a 64 bit debian pacakge ? | 23:30 |
| penguin42 | I don't see why you can't cross build it | 23:31 |
| bcurtiswx | so how do I do that exactly? | 23:33 |
| slangasek | it's quite non-trivial today | 23:33 |
| bcurtiswx | slangasek, hmm, is there a wiki page I should be referencing? | 23:33 |
| penguin42 | bcurtiswx: http://wiki.debian.org/BuildingCrossCompilers is one | 23:34 |
| penguin42 | bcurtiswx: Then there are various bits of magic to actually build the packages - none of them are particularly pretty | 23:34 |
| penguin42 | bcurtiswx: xdeb/xapt is the one I've used | 23:34 |
| penguin42 | bcurtiswx: And it doesn't work for all packages | 23:34 |
| bcurtiswx | penguin42, OK thanks for the links/help :) | 23:34 |
| penguin42 | bcurtiswx: Good luck | 23:35 |
| slangasek | in theory, an x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc wrapper that simply calls 'gcc -m64 "$@"' would be sufficient, provided that gcc-multilib is installed | 23:35 |
| cjwatson | FWIW xdeb and xapt are entirely separate projects | 23:35 |
| slangasek | but actually getting the 64-bit dependencies where you need them requires something like xdeb at the moment, yes | 23:36 |
| penguin42 | yeh? Oh i'd assumed xapt used xdeb | 23:36 |
| directhex | do they work? | 23:36 |
| penguin42 | directhex: Depends on their mood | 23:36 |
| bcurtiswx | i thought maybe pbuilder had a special way to create a 64bit build env | 23:37 |
| cjwatson | no, both xdeb and xapt use dpkg-cross, but they have different philosophies | 23:37 |
| cjwatson | ultimately, we hope both will be replaced by stage<whatever> multiarch | 23:37 |
| slangasek | bcurtiswx: the only 64bit build env you can create with pbuilder per se is a *native* 64-bit env; if your machine (or your kernel) is 32-bit, that won't be usable | 23:38 |
| directhex | you can do 64-bit kernels on 32-bit debian. but afaik not on ubuntu | 23:38 |
| bcurtiswx | slangasek, yeah that makes sense. Was worth a thought at least | 23:38 |
| cjwatson | though, I mean, it's basically the same idea, grab all the dependencies, cross them, install them, build | 23:38 |
| penguin42 | cjwatson: I don't think I'd succeeded in getting xdeb to fetch dependencies for me | 23:39 |
| cjwatson | xdeb tries to do more work for sequences of builds and is more willing to apply heuristics to get there | 23:39 |
| slangasek | directhex: well, you can in that you can cross-install an amd64 kernel on your system using multiarch ;P | 23:39 |
| cjwatson | it worked for me when I wrote it, but it's been a while since I did any work on it :-) | 23:39 |
| cjwatson | it's wookey's problem nowadays | 23:39 |
| bcurtiswx | information overload here :) hehe, i appreciate the help tho :) | 23:40 |
| penguin42 | bcurtiswx: What was the package out of interest? | 23:41 |
| bcurtiswx | penguin42, i've rebased seahorse 3.0.0 with debian, it built and I wanted to test it on my 64 bit machine.. i was hoping there was a "fairly easy" way to cross build, but my laptops quite powerful and i'll just build it on here :) | 23:44 |
| bcurtiswx | i don't have upload, so i wanted to really verify this package was built well before i went requesting a merge | 23:44 |
| penguin42 | oh I wouldn't give that a good chance of crossbuilding | 23:44 |
| penguin42 | but I'm a pessimist | 23:44 |
| bcurtiswx | haha, hence my building on my 64 bit laptop | 23:45 |
| cjwatson | bcurtiswx: you can use a PPA too, if you like | 23:45 |
| bcurtiswx | cjwatson, yup, i have empathy 3.1 on that for interested parties to test, and if i didn't have the immediate availability to this laptop i would | 23:46 |
| lfaraone | cjwatson: so in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-apt-mirror-method, we'd just use mirror:// rather than having a mirror picker? | 23:47 |
| cjwatson | lfaraone: yes | 23:47 |
| * bcurtiswx waves to lfaraone | 23:47 | |
| cjwatson | or at least rather than requiring a mirror picker - we're not out to destroy people's choice, just to make things work better without everyone having to choose | 23:47 |
| lfaraone | cjwatson: but would software-properties still have a static list, or would it source its list of mirrors from the mirror method? | 23:48 |
| cjwatson | I would hope that it wouldn't matter any more | 23:48 |
| cjwatson | but you'll have to ask mvo, I don't know the details of software-properties | 23:48 |
| cjwatson | I'm mostly involved in that spec to ensure that the installer is synced up | 23:48 |
| * penguin42 hopes it requires a signed reply to the list of mirrors | 23:48 | |
| lfaraone | penguin42: why would that matter? | 23:49 |
| lfaraone | penguin42: if I can MITM the mirror list, I can MITM whichever mirror you select anyway. | 23:50 |
| penguin42 | yeh I guess so | 23:50 |
| lfaraone | that's why we have http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt | 23:50 |
| cjwatson | I suspect, without having asked, that mvo is no great fan of having to keep a static list of mirrors; but we don't have a specific work item for replacing it | 23:51 |
| highvoltage | jbicha: congrats on the membership! I thought you were one already :) | 23:54 |
| lfaraone | hey bcurtiswx | 23:55 |
| lfaraone | cjwatson: hmm. well, I could do that, I guess. If the mirror:// list was defined somewhere, I could just add a hook to software-properties to poll it whenever you go to change the mirror. | 23:55 |
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| jbicha | highvoltage: thank you, I should have applied sooner | 23:59 |
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