[01:18] <Rocket2DMn> hey UndiFineD , you here?
[01:18] <UndiFineD> yes
[01:19] <Rocket2DMn> what is this page for - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/menu ?
[01:19] <UndiFineD> I was playing a bit
[01:19] <UndiFineD> I was thinking of some sotrt of menu for fast browsing
[01:20] <Rocket2DMn> a year or two ago the index pages we rewritten using a "signpost" approach
[01:21] <Rocket2DMn> is the main page not adequate?
[01:21] <UndiFineD> hmmm, to me it does not seem the easiest way to get to documents
[01:21] <UndiFineD> and the search does not seem to be working at all
[01:22] <Rocket2DMn> we use a topic based approach for cataloging the documentation rather than a table of contents or index approach
[01:22] <Rocket2DMn> we can certainly expand the main page or its immediate subpages if material is missing
[01:22] <UndiFineD> yeah I noticed :) very gnomy
[01:22] <Rocket2DMn> it's just better to not maintain more than one indexing area
[01:23] <Rocket2DMn> hehe yeah, i know
[01:23] <UndiFineD> you can removed it if you wish
[01:23] <Rocket2DMn> ok, i'll do that
[01:24] <Rocket2DMn> if there is more material that you think shoiuld be more easily accessible, please bring it up on the mailing list
[01:25] <UndiFineD> ok I will, I tend to stick the team to UDS plans too, meaning say what is need but as short as possible, and we should avoid redundancy
[01:26] <UndiFineD> I listened in on most of the doc sessions
[01:26] <Rocket2DMn> sounds good man
[01:30] <Rocket2DMn> man there is sooo much old material on the wiki :(
[01:31] <UndiFineD> I know, which is hy I thought lamp would be a good starting point
[01:31] <UndiFineD> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings/WikiFG/20110517
[01:31] <Rocket2DMn> you like working on server documentaiton?
[01:32] <UndiFineD> I know most of it
[01:33] <UndiFineD> I had to design a full stack of anti spam for a mailserver and when employed I am mostly a php programmer
[01:35] <UndiFineD> oh and unity may not be flawless, but it is addictive
[01:36] <UndiFineD> for fun I launched gnome-panel in unity, but I could not go back
[01:38] <Rocket2DMn> i havent played around too much in unity
[01:38] <Rocket2DMn> i need to take some time to learn more features to get better use out of it
[01:38] <UndiFineD> well I waited to install it after UDS, so I am using it now for almost a week
[01:39] <j1mc> i like unity. i've been fortunate enough to have a laptop that supports it well
[01:39] <j1mc> i would like gnome shell more if it didn't have so much padding in the theme and if it had better fonts.
[01:39] <UndiFineD> only my sound is broken
[01:40] <UndiFineD> but that may be a kernel issue
[01:40] <j1mc> the fonts on g-s are buggy. it isn't a rendering issue like it used to be - cantarel (sp?) is just a buggy font at this point.
[01:40] <UndiFineD> or pulse
[02:23] <jbicha> cantarell hasn't been packaged for deb/ubuntu
[04:00] <Captainkrtek> hey jbicha