[01:20] <Guinness2702> What's the easiest way to upgrade backend on a 10.04 server?  it supports protocol 56 (or something) but my desktop runs 11.04 and the frontend that installs with it supports protocol 63 - I don't want to do an OS upgrade on the server, just to get the right version :\
[01:21] <Guinness2702> I'm probably gonna install mythbuntu next week, which I guess will have the same problem
[01:47] <tgm4883> !repos | Guinness2702
[01:48] <tgm4883> hmm, where is Zinn
[01:48] <tgm4883> Guinness2702, http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos
[02:28] <Guinness2702> Thanks!  I'll look at it :)
[02:38] <dewman> the end of the world is near!!! LOL.....Give me all your hard drives!
[02:39] <tgm4883> dewman, 23 hours 21 minutes on my clock
[02:39] <dewman> tgm4883, so have you given everything away?? hehehe
[02:40] <tgm4883> dewman, everything but this laptop
[02:40] <tgm4883> i'm currently naked because I gave my clothes away too
[02:40] <dewman> tgm4883, nice....so you must be sitting at starbucks
[02:40] <dewman> hahahahahaha
[02:40] <tgm4883> of course :)
[02:41] <dewman> are they giving you doomsday coffee?
[02:42] <dewman> a vente cup to hide....err....never mind...
[02:42] <dewman> ok back to the bbq...
[02:42] <dewman> ;)
[04:31] <mrz80> Good [evening|morning|afternoon|whatever]
[04:39] <Shadowex3> Anyone know what could cause mythbuntu to install successfully but then just stop forever at the "Mythbuntu ..." bootup screen?
[04:39] <Shadowex3> Trying this on a Q9450 (stock) with a gtx 260 core 216 and 4x1tb samsung HDDs in case there's any compatibility issues
[04:39] <mrz80> I hit that a time or two in my hit-your-head-against-the-desktop efforts to get my shiny hvr-2250 working.
[04:40] <mrz80> I'd install a mythbuntu distro, reboot, and hang city
[04:40] <Shadowex3> Yeha the aggravating thing is when i tap the power button to turn off again it suddenly starts the dots doing the loading animation
[04:40] <mrz80> In my particular case it turned out to be either a corrupt iso image or a flawed cd-r burn  (that'll teach me to check the md5 sum)
[04:41] <Shadowex3> Hmm... i could try reburning, I figured a flawed cd wouldnt install properly though.
[04:41] <mrz80> Then I started running into flakiness in 11.04 not recognizing/working with nvidia video.
[04:41] <mrz80> Finally I dl'ed a 10.04 image, installed that, then upgraded it up to 0.24.1.  That seems to be working fine.
[04:41] <Shadowex3> lol
[04:42] <Shadowex3> Well that's worth a shot, I remember ubuntu 11.04 drove me to debian so...
[04:42] <mrz80> Just finished installing the latest/greatest saa7164 drivers, and the durn thing now sees both analog and both digital tuners on the 2250 card.  Happiness is.
[04:43] <Shadowex3> Why 10.04 and not 10.10?
[04:43] <mrz80> I had to install 11.04 on my test machine at work because a user was complaining about vpn client issues.  Blech.  I"m sticking with 10.04 'til the support stops.
[04:43] <mrz80> 10.10 uses a 2.6.35 kernel, under which you cannot compile the saa7164 drivers
[04:44] <mrz80> (at least, that's what I deduce from the reams of forum exchanges I waded through over the last three weeks!)
[04:44] <mrz80> 10.04 uses 2.6.32.  The drivers compile fine under that kernel.  I look to be putting my myth box back into production by the end of the weekend, which will get me major Wife Points (tm) :)
[05:22] <mrz80> All RIGHT... card recognized, tuners configured, channelscans done, mythfilldatabase running.  YEAH
[05:24] <Shadowex3> Alright thats a wierd one, out of curiosity i tried ctrl+alt+del at the hung screen and got an instant response (reboot)
[05:25] <mrz80> That *is* odd.
[05:26] <mrz80> brb
[05:28] <Shadowex3> well i've had stranger before, lets give 10.04 a shot.
[05:31] <Hoochster> Hello, I just installed Mythbuntu 11.04 on new hardware mind you, but am fighting getting audio to output via nvidia hdmi, which seems to be an issue from what I gather heh
[05:32] <Shadowex3> It's linux, anything too fancy can have problems >P
[05:32] <Shadowex3> oh this is a riot
[05:32] <Hoochster> :)
[05:32] <Shadowex3> i can boot a liveCD just fine with no errors or issues but i cant install lol
[05:33] <Hoochster> lmao, Linux is pretty friendly on hardware heh
[05:33] <Hoochster> but newest OS is usually a fun one
[05:33] <Shadowex3> depends
[05:33] <Shadowex3> yeah ubuntu 11.04 drove me to debian
[05:34] <Hoochster> I used to be Debian tried and true but just don't have the time anymore heh so I pretty much run Ubuntu on everything
[05:34] <Shadowex3> well for a while ubuntu was the It Just Works linux OS
[05:34] <Hoochster> but ya I really don't want to downgrade this heh but at least I haven't put a lot of work into the software yet
[05:37] <mrz80> It Just Works, unless you're doing music-related audio stuff.   Then it was It Just Doesn'tWork (courtesy PulseAudio :) )
[05:37] <Shadowex3> yeah you can thank Mark "My Way" for that
[05:52] <mrz80> Ok, time to shut down the myth box and crawl off in the general direction of bed.  l8r
[07:03] <lwizardl> hello
[07:04] <lwizardl> I am looking for some help with setting up my system for mythbuntu on my display
[07:10] <lwizardl> what is the default resolution that the system uses for the installer ?
[10:47] <rileyp> does jamu run automaticly in myth 0.24 or do i need to add a cron job?
[19:27] <qwebirc61172> hi chat
[19:28] <qwebirc61172> not found upgrade mythtv 0.24.1 in mythbuntu 10.10! Can you help me?
[19:31] <tgm4883> qwebirc61172, what version are you currently running?
[19:32] <tgm4883> can you run 'dpkg -l mythtv-frontend'
[19:32] <qwebirc61172> thank's tgm4883, one moment.....
[19:33] <qwebirc61172> tgm4883: 2:0.24.0+fixes.20110514.8
[19:34] <tgm4883> qwebirc61172, ok so a little explaination
[19:35] <tgm4883> MythTV only has a single branch for 0.24 that they commit fixes to. 0.24.1 is just a bug fix release, so that means that 0.24.1 is just a snapshot in time of the 0.24 branch
[19:36] <tgm4883> The mythbuntu-repos provide daily builds when there are changes in that branch. since you are already using the 20110514 build, you are already using 0.24.1
[19:36] <tgm4883> even though it says 0.24.0
[19:37] <tgm4883> There aren't many fixes that get commited to 0.24 anymore, but when another one gets committed then we will have another build that day
[19:38] <tgm4883> and it will say 0.24.1. But just realize that 0.24.1 is a snapshot from the 0.24 branch, and if you are running mythbuntu-repos and getting 0.24 fixes, you already are getting snapshot builds from that branch
[19:38] <qwebirc61172> tgm4883: but in mythbuntu 10.04 my version is : 2:0.24.0+fixes.20110517.3
[19:38] <tgm4883> qwebirc61172, hmm, just a sec
[19:41] <qwebirc61172> tgm4883: i watch "http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.24/ubuntu/dists/maverick/". data set to 14 may, while for lucid is 17 may.....
[19:41] <tgm4883> qwebirc61172, your right, 20110517 is the latest build. Everything that I said above still applies, but it looks like there was an issue with the builds for maverick and oneric. I'll look into it. You are likely missing 2-3 commits
[19:42] <tgm4883> qwebirc61172, also, the date is less important. The more important part is the git commit
[19:42] <tgm4883> ie 347cd24
[19:43] <tgm4883> I'll see if I can fix these other two builds, they will have a newer date but will have the same git commit version
[19:44] <qwebirc61172> ok, still waiting. thank's for your time and your work!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:53] <lwizardl> ok so I have a Kworld ATSC110 card that I am trying to get working for Cable tv and then OTA. anyone here use these cards before and would be able to help me out
[20:54] <tgm4883> lwizardl, I haven't used it, but does it work outside of MythTV?
[20:55] <lwizardl> tgm4883, not yet system just got installed. and the last times I used this card there was problems needing a dvb driver/firmware file but all the links about it seem dead now
[20:55] <tgm4883> hmm
[20:55] <tgm4883> sec
[21:10] <tgm4883> lwizardl, did you see http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/KWorld_ATSC_110
[21:17] <lwizardl> hmm
[21:18] <lwizardl> after i do system system updates I think I will try them again
[21:18] <tgm4883> ok
[21:24] <lwizardl> I had the system installed last night and it was finding no channels. so I reinstalled the system today, doing the updates, etc first then configuring the hardware in mythtv to see if that fixes my issue
[21:25] <lwizardl> if I can not get this card to work for my service. What would be a good and cheap card to get so that I could record HD and SD digital content from both my Comcast cable and OTA antenna
[21:26] <tgm4883> lwizardl, depending on your location, the comcast might give you some trouble
[21:27] <lwizardl> michigan
[21:27] <lwizardl> my cable hd box is a pace rng110
[21:27] <lwizardl> but i can easy get back a dct6200 motorolla
[21:28] <lwizardl> and my firewire ports are enabled
[21:29] <tgm4883> lwizardl, it has more to do with how the local CC has flagged the channels
[21:29] <tgm4883> what is marked copy freely vs what isn't
[21:30] <lwizardl> yeah the 5c
[21:37] <lwizardl> ok i did the dmesg like on the wiki page and it auto detected the cards just like on that page
[21:44] <tgm4883> lwizardl, did you load the firmware?
[21:45] <lwizardl> i ran the command dmesg and it found the card
[21:45] <lwizardl> that was all so far
[21:46] <lwizardl> because how it sounds was to only do the manual part if not autodetected
[21:48] <tgm4883> lwizardl, so it looks like you have the drivers, but I think you still need to have the firmware
[21:53] <lwizardl> k
[21:54] <sailerboy> sup
[21:54] <sailerboy> i'm trying to install mythtv on an ATI graphics card
[21:55] <sailerboy> and when i start X, all i see is a pink bar at the top
[21:55] <lwizardl> tgm4883, what setting should i use for the card. analog v4l ? or mjpeg card ?
[21:56] <tgm4883> lwizardl, probably analog v4l and dvb
[21:57] <sailerboy> i'm using the propietary graphics drivers
[21:57] <sailerboy> anyone have any ideas?
[21:57] <sailerboy> actually, i can't even start X
[21:57] <sailerboy> it just gets that way on the mythbuntu loading screen
[21:59] <lwizardl> ok seems taking longer to scan
[22:01] <lwizardl> ok no channels found again
[22:01] <lwizardl> where would i find the kernal source
[22:02] <tgm4883> IIRC, apt-get linux-source
[22:04] <sailerboy> ok, i fixed it
[22:06] <sailerboy> hey, can anyone help me with database config?
[22:06] <lwizardl> ok just did the apt-get install linux-source and waiting for that to finish
[22:07] <lwizardl> because i found the /usr/src/linux-headers-2..38-8Documentation/ but no directory called dvb inside
[22:07] <lwizardl> hopefully that works
[22:09] <sailerboy> hello?
[22:10] <sailerboy> why doesn't my database set up automatically
[22:15] <sailerboy> hello?
[22:15] <sailerboy> whenever i first start mythtv frontend
[22:15] <sailerboy> it goes into database configuration?
[22:15] <sailerboy> what settings do i use?
[22:18] <tgm4883> sailerboy, how did you install?
[22:18] <tgm4883> and what version
[22:18] <tgm4883> and what distro versin
[22:18] <sailerboy> mythbuntu, 10.10
[22:18] <tgm4883> what features did you select when installing
[22:19] <sailerboy> um
[22:19] <sailerboy> default
[22:19] <sailerboy> for everything
[22:19] <sailerboy> other than graphics card
[22:19] <tgm4883> there are no defaults, lets try this
[22:19] <tgm4883> what is the output of
[22:19] <tgm4883> dpkg -l mythtv-backend-master
[22:21] <sailerboy> pastebin.com/77SG2fzD
[22:21] <sailerboy> tgm4883, ^^
[22:22] <sailerboy> should i reinstall it tgm4883 ?
[22:22] <tgm4883> no
[22:22] <tgm4883> did you go through mythtv-setup?
[22:22] <sailerboy> i think so
[22:22] <sailerboy> this is the first thing in mythtv-setup
[22:22] <sailerboy> i'll try again
[22:22] <tgm4883> did you run mythtv-setup
[22:23] <sailerboy> nope
[22:23] <sailerboy> ok, i just did
[22:23] <sailerboy> and on the mysql prompt, i see access denied
[22:23] <sailerboy> i tried to change the password after it didn't work to my username and password
[22:23] <sailerboy> i probably fucked something up right?
[22:24] <sailerboy> so reinstall?
[22:26] <tgm4883> sailerboy, OMG stop you don't need to reinstall
[22:26] <tgm4883> sheesh
[22:26] <sailerboy> lol
[22:26] <sailerboy> ok
[22:27] <tgm4883> where are you getting a mysql prompt?
[22:28] <sailerboy> after i run mythtv setup
[22:29] <sailerboy> it says unable to connect
[22:29] <sailerboy> but it's using the wrong username and password
[22:29] <sailerboy> i forget the right ones
[22:30] <sailerboy> tgm4883, i've done so many things to fuck this up
[22:30] <tgm4883> it should be using the mythtv user and a generated password
[22:30] <tgm4883> which should be in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[22:31] <tgm4883> if that doesn't work, we'll just reconfigure the mysql root pass, and reset the mythtv database
[22:31] <sailerboy> that doesn't work
[22:31] <sailerboy> how do i reconfigure the mysql root pass?
[22:32] <tgm4883> dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
[22:33] <sailerboy> ok
[22:33] <tgm4883> it should prompt you for a new root password
[22:34] <sailerboy> nope
[22:34] <tgm4883> ok try
[22:34] <tgm4883> dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0
[22:35] <sailerboy> 5.1?
[22:35] <tgm4883> yea 5.1
[22:36] <sailerboy> ok tgm4883, now waht
[22:36] <tgm4883> yay zinn is back
[22:36] <tgm4883> !mysql | sailerboy
[22:36] <sailerboy> ?
[22:36] <Zinn> Hi tgm4883, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[22:36] <sailerboy> lol
[22:36] <sailerboy> !mysql
[22:36] <Zinn> sailerboy: If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, perform the following to reconfigure it: [1] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.1 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it later)  [2] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [3] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[22:37] <tgm4883> there we go
[22:37] <Zinn> If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, perform the following to reconfigure it: [1] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.1 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it later)  [2] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [3] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[22:37] <tgm4883> sailerboy, so follow those last 2 steps
[22:38] <sailerboy> tgm4883, so what should the database name be?
[22:38] <tgm4883> mythconverg
[22:38] <sailerboy> can i create any user?
[22:38] <sailerboy> or should i use root?
[22:39] <sailerboy> tgm4883, ?
[22:40] <tgm4883> use mythtv
[22:41] <sailerboy> tgm4883, i still get cannot login
[22:41] <tgm4883> you went through all three steps?
[22:41] <sailerboy> yes
[22:42] <tgm4883> this is all on the same machine?
[22:42] <tgm4883> or is the frontend remote?
[22:42] <sailerboy> same machine
[22:42] <sailerboy> ok
[22:42] <sailerboy> what i just did
[22:42] <sailerboy> is i just left everything blank
[22:42] <sailerboy> and it went through without an error
[22:42] <sailerboy> that bad?
[22:42] <tgm4883> IDK, I've never tried that
[22:43] <tgm4883> id try putting in something
[22:43] <sailerboy> well
[22:43] <tgm4883> or seeing if you can login from the cmd line
[22:45] <sailerboy> says access denied
[22:45] <sailerboy> when i try to login from command line
[22:46] <sailerboy> ooh
[22:46] <sailerboy> i used root
[22:46] <sailerboy> and my root password
[22:46] <sailerboy> and it worked
[22:46] <sailerboy> yey
[22:47] <sailerboy> thanks for your help tgm4883
[22:47] <tgm4883> sailerboy, interesting
[22:47] <tgm4883> does the mythconverg db exist?
[22:47] <tgm4883> or the mythtv user in the db?
[22:47] <sailerboy> idk
[22:47] <sailerboy> it works
[22:47] <sailerboy> i'm happy
[22:52] <lwizardl> anyone here use an kworld atsc110 card and have a working system
[22:54] <sailerboy> tgm4883, heh, i have another problem
[22:54] <tgm4883> lwizardl, if you are just looking for the perl script you can get it here http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/dvb/get_dvb_firmware
[22:54] <sailerboy> i was going through the setup, and now whenever i try to access a menu, it freezes
[22:55] <sailerboy> tgm4883, how do i delete all the settings?
[22:56] <tgm4883> all what settings?
[22:56] <sailerboy> tgm4883, all the settings in the setup tab?
[22:56] <sailerboy> i fucked something up there, and now it's not letting me get back to it
[22:57] <tgm4883> if you are in the page, you would hit d and I think you can delete all
[22:57] <sailerboy> tgm4883, i'm not in the page
[22:58] <sailerboy> i'm just in the part where you can select general, appearance, etc
[22:58] <sailerboy> and i can't get any further
[22:58] <tgm4883> AFAIK, there isn't a way to reset those without resetting the whole DB
[22:58] <sailerboy> how do i do that?
[22:59] <tgm4883> probably something like
[22:59] <tgm4883> apt-get purge mythtv-database
[22:59] <tgm4883> followed by a db install
[23:00] <sailerboy> !mysql
[23:00] <Zinn> If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, perform the following to reconfigure it: [1] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.1 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it later)  [2] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [3] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[23:01] <sailerboy> still not working
[23:01] <sailerboy> i think i need to clear the mythconverg database
[23:05] <sailerboy> ah
[23:05] <sailerboy> here we go
[23:05] <sailerboy> now it's working
[23:06] <sailerboy> tgm4883, what's us-cable vs hrc vs irc?
[23:08] <tgm4883> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061102043027AAZ1ndE
[23:08] <Zinn> [answers.yahoo.com] What does cable-std, cable-hrc, % cable -irc stand for? - Yahoo! Answers
[23:08] <sailerboy> i'll google next time
[23:08] <sailerboy> thanks
[23:21] <sailerboy> tgm4883, i'm going through the setup guide
[23:21] <sailerboy> is schedule direct worth registering for?
[23:21] <tgm4883> are you in the US?
[23:21] <sailerboy> yes
[23:22] <tgm4883> I use it, it is pretty good listings
[23:22] <tgm4883> and $20/year doesn't break the bank
[23:22] <sailerboy> i'm a student :(
[23:22] <sailerboy> i don't have 20 bucks a year to spare
[23:22] <sailerboy> maybe later, i can convince my parents to let me
[23:23] <sailerboy> (for them to pay for it)
[23:26] <sailerboy> tgm4883, so i'm trying to do scan for channels
[23:26] <sailerboy> but it says "Failed to open card"
[23:28] <sailerboy> erm
[23:28] <sailerboy> i changed the input from mpeg to v4l
[23:28] <sailerboy> and it works now
[23:49] <sailerboy> tgm4883, what's the best file system to store recordings on?
[23:53] <mrand> sailerboy: ext4 and xfs are generally the most recommended one
[23:53] <mrand> +s