[01:01] <nhaines> I'm heading to the Rathskeller in Huntington Beach to drink German beer!  \o/
[01:08] <pleia2> nhaines: have fun :)
[01:35] <nhaines> pleia2: "Im Himmel gibt's kein Bier / Drum trinken wir es hier!"
[01:36] <pleia2> nice :)
[01:37] <nhaines> The song continues (but in German): "And when we're no longer here / The others will drink all our beer!"
[01:38] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: btw, no amount of qualifiers will make your blog post not sound like "quit yur whining" :)
[01:38] <pleia2> (being one of the others)++
[01:39] <pleia2> I'm spending the weekend with my boyfriend's jewish family :)
[01:39] <pleia2> no ascension for us
[01:42] <akk> Is DarkwingDuck not on planet.ubuntu-california.org ?
[01:49] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2: Yeah, I know...
[01:50] <DarkwingDuck> I think paultag said it best though.... "Nice suck up to canonical blog post the day before your interview"
[01:51] <DarkwingDuck> akk: I think I changed my blig URL since then. I'm now at wonderly.com and not darkwingduck.org
[01:51] <akk> I googled and found it.
[01:51] <DarkwingDuck> Yay
[01:51] <akk> heh @ paultag
[01:51] <pleia2> haha, paultag++
[01:51] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: you know, we do have the ability to update planet feeds :P
[01:52] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, I'm more dedicated to getting ready for the second interview at the moment.
[01:52] <DarkwingDuck> :P
[01:52] <akk> Problem I have with the blog post is that so many communities make it really hard to do more than spot problems (and blog workarounds or put them in blog comments).
[01:53] <pleia2> akk: that's what I said in my comment
[01:53] <akk> That "how to post a patch so it might even get considered" thing I blogged earlier this week was maybe my longest blog entry ever. And it was as condensed as I could make it.
[01:54] <pleia2> yeah, I was actually thinking of your debdiff blog post when I wrote my comment
[01:54] <pleia2> (among other things)
[01:54] <pleia2> saying "just make a debdiff!" without giving any documentation borders on insulting
[01:55] <pleia2> (and makes me feel like a moron, why can't I figure out how to make one? clearly it's easy if they are saying just do it...)
[01:55] <akk> It took me maybe 4x as long to make the bzr diff as it did to install the source, track down why the program was crashing, find a fix and make the initial diff.
[01:55] <akk> Maybe only 2x as long if you count the time I took going back realizing I could make a cleaner fix.
[01:56] <akk> Of course, most bugs aren't nearly that easy to fix (alas!)
[01:57] <pleia2> yeah, there is always that too
[01:59] <broder> pleia2: we're trying to fix that!
[01:59] <broder> (for ubuntu at least)
[01:59] <broder> the long-term goal is that you just need to mark an attachment as a patch in LP, and the normal review process will kick in
[01:59] <pleia2> broder: this has been a long term goal for a couple of years
[02:00] <akk> broder: That would be SO much better.
[02:00] <broder> yeah, but i think it's starting to approach feasible
[02:00] <pleia2> that's good to hear :)
[02:00] <broder> we're going to point patch pilots at operation cleansweep this cycle
[02:00] <broder> since the sponsorship queue is at the point that it's usually short enough that patch pilots run out of work
[02:01] <pleia2> (btw, this isn't all just me being the spotter, I am actively working with some bug and docs people to improve their contributor docs to help with this :P)
[02:01] <broder> but it'll still take time, since there are just so many marked-as-patches attachments in lp right now
[02:01] <broder> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-o-review-sponsorship-process and http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/community-o-review-sponsorship-process/ are the relevant links
[02:01] <broder> err, most recently relevant links
[02:02] <pleia2> yeah, that session conflicted with another so I had to read those afterwards
[02:02] <pleia2> (always too much happening at uds! :))
[02:02] <akk> The SRU process is also crazy.
[02:02] <broder> friday this cycle was really bad. i don't remember being so thoroughly overbooked last cycle
[02:03] <akk> That's even harder than making a bzr patch/debdiff.
[02:03] <pleia2> friday was actually my light day, thursday was gruesome
[02:03] <akk> And not well documented.
[05:36] <wes_> hey guys
[15:36] <nigelb> DarkwingDuck: aha, gonna work for Canonical? ;)