[00:07] <Linkmaster> Oh, I thought you did xP
[00:08] <Unit193> Not too much...
[00:08] <Linkmaster> More then me then D:
[00:29] <pastyhermit> How do I get rid of this annoying KDE Wallet thing?
[00:30] <Linkmaster> You don't want to remove that
[00:30] <pastyhermit> ime I try to connect to a wifi network
[00:31] <Linkmaster> KWallet is a password manager that keeps passwords[such as your WPA2 password] in a tightly encrypted folder. That way nobody can see it
[00:32] <Linkmaster> have you created the password for it yet? If so, whenever it comes up, type in the password you made for it, and then it'll automatically connect to your network for you. its quite nifty actually
[00:33] <pastyhermit> Linkmaster: kind of stupid I dont want to keep typing in the password for the wifif
[00:33] <pastyhermit> or the wallet.
[00:33] <Linkmaster> you'd only need to do it on reboot
[00:33] <Linkmaster> and once you create it, you never have to type in the password for the wifi
[00:34] <lcb> pastyhermit: and you have the option to not asking again for password
[00:34]  * Linkmaster actually didn't know about that, he thought it was for security purposes
[00:34] <Linkmaster> :P
[00:34] <pastyhermit> lcb: alright
[00:34] <pastyhermit> thanks
[00:35] <pastyhermit> It should probably default to not needlessly harrasing the user, I  presume the data is encrypted?
[00:36] <Linkmaster> Yeah, its encrypted[like I said previously...]
[00:36]  * lcb actually don't know a lot Linkmaster do, he thinks it is for security purposes
[00:36] <lcb> :p
[00:37] <Linkmaster> I'm still trying to figure out how to disable the ability for root functions to 'remember this authentication' I'm tired of unchecking the box. I want my computer to ask me every blasted time when something even remotely not root is trying to have root priviledges :P
[00:37]  * Linkmaster is obviously paranoid about his system
[00:38] <lcb> hehehe
[00:39] <lcb> is JDownloader installed by default? I don't remember to install it
[00:39] <Linkmaster> I dont think so? [what is it..?]
[00:39] <lcb> just saw it on the menu
[00:40] <lcb> download manager, mostly for file storage sites
[00:40] <Linkmaster> which one?
[00:40] <lcb> most of it
[00:40] <Linkmaster> Its not on my system
[00:40] <lcb> rapidshare, hotfile, mega.., upload, etc
[00:40] <lcb> is under Internet on mine
[00:41] <lcb> where it should be, btw.
[00:41] <lcb> and now i clicked and is updating a lot of the engine
[00:41] <Linkmaster> Hm..its not in the repos[or I don't have the right ppa activated]
[00:42] <lcb> probably i installed and don't remember. there is no ppa as i recall, only from the site. but it is pretty comparable and well integrated on 11.04
[00:43] <lcb> compatible, i mean
[00:43] <Linkmaster> Hm, possibly. Not sure, don't even know what it does :P
[00:44] <lcb> downloads files pretty fast without users intervention (+/-)
[00:44] <Linkmaster> so similar to a download accelator?
[00:45] <lcb> not really.. this one recognizes captcha, resumes downloadings and a lot of features more
[00:46] <lcb> download accelerator resumes too, btw. if i'n not wrong
[00:46] <Linkmaster> hm..seems like something I don't need :P
[00:47] <lcb> in case you need http://jdownloader.org/ i'll get a bonus.
[00:47] <lcb> j/k
[00:48] <Linkmaster> wow :P
[00:48] <pastyhermit> I do say this runs pretty well natively with my 8GB RAM :)
[00:48] <lcb> root@ hm
[00:48] <Linkmaster> You have 8gigs of RAM?
[00:48] <pastyhermit> ing 2 4GBs and gotten 1 8GB to put along side my 2GB then I would have had 10GB.
[00:48] <lcb> i do, on this machine
[00:49] <pastyhermit> .. on my laptop...
[00:49]  * Linkmaster grumbles
[00:49] <pastyhermit> Lenovo Thinkpad T500
[00:49] <pastyhermit> high res display
[00:49] <Linkmaster> Those are practically Lenovo's only good invention :l
[00:50] <pastyhermit> heir monitors are reallly nice
[00:50] <Linkmaster> My monitor on mine is nice, but thats because the stock one broke and I had to buy a new one..
[00:51] <pastyhermit> what kind
[00:51] <Linkmaster> Lenovo S10e xl
[00:51] <Linkmaster> I like only one thing about it
[00:51] <lcb> i have problems on this ati hd 4570, 15.6 1366x768 when in dual monitor
[00:51] <pastyhermit> you at work?
[00:51] <Linkmaster> Nope, its my only computer
[00:52] <pastyhermit> Linkmaster: student?
[00:52] <Linkmaster> Yeah
[00:52] <lcb> teacher
[00:52] <lcb> he teaches ppl here :)
[00:52] <pastyhermit> :)
[00:52] <Linkmaster> I only like it because its a tank. They take a lot more beating then regular netbooks
[00:52] <pastyhermit> the way of KDE
[00:52] <Linkmaster> I'm an apprentice
[00:53] <Linkmaster> I learn from the wise, and instruct the not-so-wise
[00:53] <pastyhermit> can buy a sweet rig...
[00:53] <lcb> with master degree
[00:53] <pastyhermit> Im just new to KDE
[00:53] <lcb> me2
[00:53] <pastyhermit> last time I used it for any amount of time was version 2.x
[00:53] <Linkmaster> You'll love it
[00:53] <Linkmaster> You'll definitely love it then
[00:53] <pastyhermit> I really dont like low res stuff I dont even know why computer companies bother...
[00:54] <Linkmaster> Blind people?
[00:54] <lcb> pastyhermit: i have it for about 2 or 3 weeks and already sleep with the laptop
[00:54] <pastyhermit> lcb?
[00:54] <lcb> sometimes i wakeup with the heat from the machine
[00:55] <lcb> hehehe kidding
[00:55] <lcb> Kubuntu is really great
[00:55] <pastyhermit> lcb what are you talking about?
[00:55] <lcb> Kubuntu
[00:56] <lcb> 2 weeks using it and already abusing it
[00:56] <pastyhermit> I see
[00:56] <Linkmaster> Yeah, he can't help himself, so don't mind him
[00:56] <lcb> lol
[00:57] <lcb> 1 am already here. probably the cause
[01:06] <gremset> How can see a list of startup daemons and programs? I need to disable some of them from auto starting at boot.
[01:07] <Linkmaster> Oh, thats somewhere..just don't remember where at the second
[01:08] <Linkmaster> found one place you can manage it:
[01:09] <Linkmaster> 'system settings -> Startup and Shutdown[scroll to the bottom] -> any of the three tabs'
[01:09] <lcb> or... on System Settings put in search box "startup" .. and scroll down
[01:10] <Linkmaster> :l on a bigger screen it'll simply show up. My tiny screen is a different story
[01:10] <lcb> Startup Applications on Ubuntu. here is a bit more advanced
[01:11]  * Linkmaster wonders what would happen if he enabled both plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook at once
[01:11] <lcb> Linkmaster: bot sides of your monitor will work
[01:11] <lcb> both
[01:11] <Linkmaster> awesome! :D
[01:11] <Unit193> You would make a plasma collider
[01:12] <Linkmaster> Not so awesome D:
[01:12] <lcb> or an atomic implosion
[01:12] <sourcemaker> how can I create an encrypted directory? cryptoluks?
[01:12] <Linkmaster> Hmm...be a little warm afterwards
[01:13] <sourcemaker> or with encfs - which is better?
[01:13]  * Linkmaster has yet to try them
[01:13]  * Unit193 just uses TrueCrypt
[01:14]  * Linkmaster uses the default encryption that comes with Kubuntu installation CD's
[01:14] <lcb> never encrypted anything. i'm all open (systemwise)
[01:14] <sourcemaker> Linkmaster: yes... my system is whole encrypted with luks :-)
[01:15] <Linkmaster> smart :D
[01:15] <sourcemaker> but I would also like to encrypt a special directory containing banking informations...
[01:15] <Linkmaster> whenever I forget to encrypt my drive, I sadly make a screwdriver part of my everday equipment
[01:16] <Linkmaster> hmm..
[01:16] <Linkmaster> either or?
[01:16] <lcb> sourcemaker: http://goo.gl/B1e4N
[01:16] <Linkmaster> OR, you could create a VM that has an encrypted drive :D thus, its enctryped inside another encryted hard drive
[01:18] <lcb> and this one if anything goes wrong http://goo.gl/88dTS
[01:19] <lcb> tried to search for 11.04 i don't see it. probably exists a better 'how to'
[01:22] <lcb> sourcemaker: check this one before doing anything
[01:22] <lcb> http://www.kubuntuguide.info/index.php/Natty#Create_an_encrypted_folder
[01:23] <lcb> it points to that place  i gave you, anyway, but is good to take a look. search on the page for encrypt
[01:24] <sourcemaker> thanks
[01:25] <lcb> welcome
[04:13] <mrafcho001> Does anyone know why Dragon Player will not play any video files? I think I may have removed something critical to the video playing abilities.   It only plays sound
[04:15] <sirninja> Is there a good plasma widget that is similar to the windows 7 task bar?
[04:44] <dan_l> so I've learned thhat there are litterally dozens of features of kopete
[04:44] <dan_l> and it is far more awesome than I thought
[04:44] <dan_l> however, I still can't do what I want to with it.
[04:44] <dan_l> it's gotta be something obvious.
[04:45] <Unit193> Maybe I should put that on my list of things to stop ignoring...
[04:51] <dan_l> lol
[04:53]  * Unit193 was a pidgin user, now finch/irssi
[04:54] <Unit193> Now I just have to see if voice/video works...
[05:56] <hyb> why my /dev/sound missing?
[05:57] <tsimpson> hyb: I think you mean /dev/snd
[05:59] <hyb> tsimpson: how to check it
[06:00] <tsimpson> it's the ALSA interface to sound, so just try playing sound from something that's using ALSA for sound I guess
[06:00] <hyb> tsimpson: in my os ,the /dev/snd is a folder,that all right?
[06:01] <tsimpson> yes, it should have several "files" in it
[06:01] <tsimpson> like seq, timer, controlC0 (maybe named slightly differently)
[06:02] <kutija> hello
[06:03] <hyb> tsimpson: can i make a voice in console with that
[06:03] <debg> Hi , Anyone using Compiz+emerald with kde 4.6.3 ?
[06:04] <tsimpson> hyb: if you have a .wav file (there may be some in /usr/share/sound), you can try playing them with the aplay command
[06:05] <tsimpson> debg: emerald is no longer maintained, dead, and probably very buggy
[06:06] <kutija> hey all! i'm on 11.04. Kubuntu. how can i remove those widgets and set up standard desktop look?
[06:06] <hyb> tsimpson: the .ogg also can play?
[06:07] <tsimpson> hyb: not with aplay, but with ogg123
[06:08] <Fluttershy> kutija: as in, just a blank desktop?
[06:08] <kutija> desktop like in 10
[06:08] <hyb> tsimpson: what is the ogg123
[06:08] <kutija> i can't find anything on this one :)
[06:08] <Fluttershy> I don't remember the desktop being any different in 10.10
[06:08] <Fluttershy> just a different wallpaper
[06:09] <kutija> well.. i watching at like 10 widgets on screen and no menu
[06:09] <tsimpson> hyb: it's a program in the vorbis-tools package
[06:10] <hyb> tsimpson: how about the mplayer
[06:11] <debg> tsimpson: I can use kde-windows-dekorator as well but compiz freezes whenever I open the add new widget window . Is there any fix for that ?
[06:13] <tsimpson> hyb: sure, if you have that
[06:13] <tsimpson> well, I wouldn't use compiz, so I can't help there
[06:13] <kutija> Fluttershy: i have search and launch, page one and bunch of icons in tray. and ofc, bunch of widgets under that . no standard desktop with icons and menu.
[06:15] <Fluttershy> oh
[06:15] <Fluttershy> are you on a netbook
[06:15] <hyb> tsimpson: i see a error messge before kdm ,how can i get it
[06:15] <Fluttershy> because that's the netbook interface
[06:15] <Fluttershy> (you can switch to the regular desktop)
[06:16] <tsimpson> hyb: probably logged in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages
[06:16] <kutija> Fluttershy: yea, just found it :D
[06:18] <hyb> tsimpson: what is acahi.eth0
[06:19] <tsimpson> no idea, but probably something to do with networking (eth0 is usually the ethernet wired network interface)
[06:26] <bullgard4> What do the letters "SC" mean in "Kubuntu SC 4.6.2"?
[06:27] <hyb> tsimpson: how to stop ipv6
[06:28] <tsimpson> !ipv6 | hyb
[06:28] <tsimpson> bullgard4: it's KDE SC, and the SC stands for Software Compilation. it's part of a re-branding to show a separation from the community and the product(s)
[06:31] <bullgard4> tsimpson: Ah! Thank you very much for your explanation.
[06:36] <hyb> tsimpson: how to get some info when i exe .sh file in console
[06:37] <tsimpson> what do you mean by "some info"?
[06:37] <hyb> tsimpson: the some info record in log file, i want it show in console
[06:38] <hyb> tsimpson: in fact ,i use a .sh file to login internet
[06:38] <tsimpson> a .sh is just a list of commands that is executed sequentially, so you'd have to edit the file to make it print anything out
[06:40] <hyb> tsimpson: yes. but i want to get some info from this.
[06:40] <hyb> tsimpson: before 10.10,it is ok
[06:41] <tsimpson> a script is abstract, unless it prints something, or one of the commands it runs prints something, it won't show anything
[06:41] <tsimpson> so you'd just have to edit the file and make it print stuff
[06:42] <hyb> tsimpson: dou you know how to add some bash cmd to get it?
[06:42] <hyb> tsimpson: maybe stop 2s
[06:42] <tsimpson> the way you output text in scripts is with the "echo" command
[06:43] <tsimpson> if you want it to delay, put in "sleep 2" somewhere and it'll pause for 2 seconds
[06:54] <hyb> tsimpson:  it can't work, i disappointed
[07:05] <moji> hi all
[07:05] <hyb> hi
[07:06] <moji> when my kubuntu is loading  in loading my x it crash and stop loading when i go to tty and write
[07:07] <moji> "sudo startx"
[07:07] <moji> it make error
[07:10] <moji> "XIO :fatal error 11(resources temporarily unavaliable)on X server ":0" after 7 requests(7known proccsseed)with 0events remainig"
[07:14] <floown> hello
[07:14] <floown> I have a sed question
[07:14] <floown> I want to remove the http://www. from my urls with this command : sed -e "s/http\:\/\/www\.//g" "my file.txt" now how can I wrote the result in my file.txt ?
[07:15] <tsimpson> use the -i flag of sed
[07:15] <floown> ok, thx, instead the -e frag ?
[07:16] <tsimpson> as well as the -e flag, if you want
[07:16] <tsimpson> you can use more than one ;)
[07:16] <floown> ok ^^
[07:22] <moji> "XIO :fatal error 11(resources temporarily unavaliable)on X server ":0" after 7 requests(7known proccsseed)with 0events remainig"
[07:23] <fadenfisch> hi
[07:23] <fadenfisch> ???
[07:26] <Linkmaster> hey
[07:53] <FaTeieDeR> Народ! кто сталкивался с wine ?
[07:53] <Graf_Westerholt> !ru | FaTeieDeR
[09:27] <old_chap> hi, I have a constant problem with wlan with 11.04, establishing the wifi connection does not succeed
[09:27] <old_chap> I didn't have any problems with 10.04
[09:28] <old_chap> the only way to get connection work is to first boot to windows, disable and then enable wifi and then reboot to kubuntu
[09:28] <old_chap> does anyone else problems with wifi with 11.04?
[09:29] <Graf_Westerholt> !wifi | old_chap
[09:46] <valorie> old_chap: there are a few people with problems
[09:46] <valorie> but they haven't been specific enough to pin anything down
[09:46] <valorie> you may have to 1. search the bugs
[09:47] <valorie> or 2. install wicd
[09:47] <valorie> make sure you uninstall networkmanager after downloading wicd, though
[09:47] <valorie> they don't like being on the same machine for some reason
[10:00] <floown> basesdir=~/'temporaire' && cd $basesdir      : it doesn't works ?
[10:04] <pastyhermit> Anyone know what are the best programs to sync my ipod with my mac?
[10:05] <pastyhermit> sorry with my kubuntu install
[10:16] <valorie> !ipod
[10:16] <valorie> pastyhermit: ^^^
[10:17] <valorie> you can add and remove tracks with Amarok
[10:17] <valorie> but not sync
[10:18] <Graf_Westerholt> Hi, valorie.
[10:32] <mime1111> hello. i deleted ''wallpaperclock'', trough screenlet and plamoid, but i still see it running switching desktop effects, it runs 0.5 secs before config changes, any idea for purgeing it, thnx? i have like a double wallpaper
[10:48] <naftilos76> is KDE 4.6.3 compiled for Kubuntu?
[10:48] <naftilos76> 11.04?
[10:48] <naftilos76> got it!
[10:52] <causticsand> good morning
[10:53] <causticsand> I've searched the internet and my system settings because I think I remember seeing a setting that will allow me to have different programs opened on different virtual desktops
[10:53] <causticsand> I just can't find it
[10:54] <causticsand> what I mean is that I would like the panel to only show the programs on THAT desktop
[10:54] <causticsand> When I switch to a different desktop, it would show the programs open on the other
[10:56] <yofel> edit your task manager settings, there's a checkbox for that there
[10:59] <causticsand> where is the task manager settings?
[10:59] <causticsand> where are, I mean?
[11:02] <mime1111> hello. i deleted ''wallpaperclock'', trough screenlet and plamoid, but i still see it running switching desktop effects, it runs 0.5 secs before config changes, any idea for purgeing it, thnx? i have like a double wallpaper
[11:04] <sourcemaker> what is more secure for directory encryption... encfs or luks container?
[11:06] <akis> hi all. i am new to 10.04. how can i hear mp3 files? is it possible to setup my winfaxmodem?
[11:07] <mime1111> akis, type in konsole kubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:07] <mime1111> for all codecs or better install VLC
[11:08] <mime1111> if u dont use vlc, no prob, but will install codecs 4 all players
[11:08] <mime1111> or that is what i think :P
[11:08] <akis> ok. thanks.
[11:08] <mime1111> np
[11:08] <mime1111> cya
[11:09] <akis> @mime, have u any idea if can i setup my winfaxmodem?
[11:09] <causticsand> I found the KDE control module screen, but I can't find a checkbox for keeping window tabs open on separate desktops
[11:11] <yofel> causticsand: sry, was busy. Right click on the panel where your tasks are shown -> task manager settings
[11:11] <yofel> which release btw.?
[11:12] <causticsand> it's mint 10
[11:12] <causticsand> with KDe
[11:12] <causticsand> E
[11:12] <yofel> and what KDE version is that running?
[11:12] <yofel> just open dolphin and check in help->about kde
[11:13] <causticsand> i found it :)
[11:13] <causticsand> 4.6.2
[11:13] <causticsand> and it's working like I wanted...thank you!
[11:14] <yofel> :)
[11:38] <stephdg> is there any way to take a screenshot of the log-in screen?
[11:38] <ArchangelSe7en> hm ..
[11:38] <ArchangelSe7en> scrot ..
[11:39] <melkor20> I have a problem with google-desktop, it is weird, It seems to work fine but I can't see preferences nor home page nor anything
[11:39] <ArchangelSe7en> set the delay to 20 sec or somethin .. and then "change session"
[11:39] <melkor20> it's like doesn't recognize any web browser
[11:39] <stephdg> ArchangelSe7en: ok, that seems to be a good idea, i will try it :) thanks
[11:40] <ArchangelSe7en> you're most welcome
[11:47] <wn1zid> is google desktop good ?, what advantages does it have
[11:48] <wn1zid> some how i don't trust google
[11:50] <iXec> Anyone who can help me?
[11:50] <Graf_Westerholt> !ask
[11:51] <iXec> well its not really about kubuntu but ubuntu alternqte installer im trying to encrypt my hard disk but it keeps saying failed at the select and install step.
[11:51] <iXec> i have no idea how to fix it
[11:54] <iXec> http://www.linuxlog.org/?p=19
[11:54] <baijupattera> anybody here knows why the wireless not get connecting ,but it works well in ubuntu
[11:56] <iXec> I guess not.
[12:40] <greghaynes> I just recently updated my 11.04 kubuntu install and now whenever I login there are about 10 akonadi processes that consume 100%cpu and eventually enough ram to cause my box to OOM (on an 8gb RAM computer). Any ideas how to solve this?
[12:52] <alket> Hi, what are new things in Kubuntu 11 for end users ?
[12:53] <James147> alket: see http://www.kubuntu.org/news/11.04-release
[13:54] <vbgunz> does anybody know how to label a luks volume?
[14:09] <Graf_Westerholt> Bye.
[14:18] <hyb> ttyN is more ,how to reduce ?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:20] <hyb> tsimpson: hi
[14:20] <hyb> tsimpson: ttyN is more ,how to reduce ?
[15:13] <hyb> tsimpson: how to change the login-wave
[15:43] <mime1111> hello. i deleted ''wallpaperclock'', trough screenlet and plamoid, but i still see it running switching desktop effects, it runs 0.5 secs before config changes, any idea for purgeing it, thnx? i have like a double wallpaper
[16:10] <floown> hello
[16:10] <floown> how can I find the folder in a path ? I know, the question is a little for newbies…
[16:14] <Graf_Westerholt> !details | floown
[16:18] <floown> Graf_Westerholt: sorry, I have found the solution, its -type d
[16:18] <Graf_Westerholt> ok
[16:18] <falaise> hello evry body here
[16:19] <floown> falaise: hi
[16:19] <falaise> pls i need some help
[16:19] <Graf_Westerholt> !ask | falaise
[16:33] <mime1111> hi, when I try to install a plasmoid manually, I get Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mime" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[16:33] <mime1111> Error: "/tmp/kde-mime" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[16:33] <mime1111> any help? thnx
[16:44] <lisa_> having trouble with flash: libflashplayer.so is in all the plugins folders I can see in usr/lib/ but firefox and chrome still have no flash content. in firefox about:plugins doesnt show libflashplayer.so. Can anyone please help?
[16:45] <Graf_Westerholt> !flash
[16:47] <matthie> hey everybody, i new witch the kubuntu stuff. Now i won't to install a USB storage disk that is conect to a belkin "F5D8235-4 v1000" router on kubuntu platform. can sombody give me a solution of point my in the deriction to find the solution?
[16:48] <Peace-> matthie: ?
[16:49] <matthie> hey peace i rewrite my quistion.
[16:49] <mime1111> hi, when I try to install a plasmoid manually, I get Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mime" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[16:49] <mime1111> Error: "/tmp/kde-mime" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[16:49] <mime1111> any help? thnx
[16:51] <matthie> i have a usb storage disk. this disk is conect to a belkin router (type: F5D8235-4 v1000) on windows you install a programme and you can on the information on the disk. ik was not able to find simelar programme or tric to te same on kubuntu.
[16:53] <Peace-> matthie: where are you from ?
[16:54] <matthie> belgium, engelisch is not my natif tongeu
[16:54] <Peace-> !belgium
[16:55] <Peace-> !be
[16:55] <Peace-> -.-
[16:55] <Peace-> !language
[16:55] <Peace-> omg!
[16:55] <matthie> yes BE , dutch part.
[16:56] <mycroft_> if something says edit .cshrc and i use bash, does that just mean I should edit .bashrc?
[16:56] <Peace-> matthie: #kubuntu-be
[16:56] <Peace-> matthie: sorry #ubuntu-be
[16:57] <matthie> Peace: i try that channel shut be easer for me.
[17:01] <mime1111> hi, when I try to install a plasmoid manually, I get Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mime" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[17:01] <mime1111> Error: "/tmp/kde-mime" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[17:01] <mime1111> any help? thnx
[17:02] <Peace-> mm
[17:02] <Peace-> mime1111: have you another user , or you had ?
[17:03] <mime1111> no
[17:03] <mime1111> i accsses with sudo bash
[17:03] <Peace-> mime1111: did you upgrade , changed partition ?
[17:03] <mime1111> no
[17:03] <Peace-> ok i will say you one thing
[17:03] <mime1111> ok
[17:03] <James147> mime1111: how are you installing it?
[17:03] <Peace-> that means that another user has the property of /tmp/stuff
[17:03] <mime1111> via konsole
[17:03] <Peace-> so
[17:03] <James147> mime1111: with what commands?
[17:04] <DarthFrog> Did the error block the installation of the plasmoid?  If not, it's harmless.
[17:04] <mime1111> plasmapkg -i 123291-solar-system.plasmoid
[17:04] <mime1111> or
[17:04] <Peace-> James147: 0 isn't root?
[17:04] <James147> mime1111: dont run it as root
[17:04] <James147> Peace-: yes
[17:05] <mime1111> uncompressing it with the folder name
[17:05] <mime1111> yes is root
[17:05] <James147> mime1111: no, DO NOT run it as root
[17:05] <Peace-> James147: xD
[17:05] <bethany> hey I cant get flash to work on my browsers even though its been installed
[17:05] <mime1111> yes, the installation works fine, but then a script msg appears and the exposed up
[17:06] <bethany> its been like this since last patch
[17:06] <mime1111> i can use some plasmoids; others not
[17:07] <mime1111> i entered also in /home/mime/.kde/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids  and /home/mime/.kde/share/kde4/services
[17:07] <Peace-> bethany: remove every flash stuff gnash or what ever then... download flash and put it here http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/22/plasma-desktopSU1705.jpg
[17:08] <Peace-> bethany: btw you could reinstall it
[17:08] <mime1111> how can get root acces to the cache files above? any help? in karma it is enabled
[17:08] <Peace-> mime1111: reboot
[17:09] <mime1111> i did it
[17:09] <James147> mime1111: that cache isnot ment to be accesed by root... hence the error
[17:09] <mime1111> is like the ''newer'' plasmoidfs dont work in jaunty jackalope 9.05
[17:09] <Peace-> mime1111: kdesudo dolphin ==> go in the folder
[17:09] <Peace-> right button
[17:09] <Peace-> permission change permission
[17:09] <mime1111> ok one sec
[17:10] <James147> mime1111: DONT
[17:10] <James147> Peace-: mime1111: you are not ment to change the premossions of the cache files... doing so will jsut break somehthing else
[17:10] <mime1111> well, i just want to get the instead of 1000 is 0 off my comp
[17:11] <mime1111> ok
[17:11] <Peace-> James147: that should be erased rebooting
[17:11] <Peace-> so..
[17:11] <mime1111> ill try anyway peace's solution, it is not very dangerous
[17:11] <James147> Peace-: ...should... and will jsut break things this session...
[17:11] <Peace-> James147: well... iguess he has already broken somehting
[17:12] <mime1111> no, frewsh installation
[17:12] <mime1111> its more like python problem
[17:12]  * Peace- ??????????
[17:12] <James147> mime1111: its most likly a problem with how you installed themn
[17:13] <Peace-> +1 James147
[17:13] <mime1111> in ''download more...' option, also some work and others not, that is an ultimate solution as u can imagine, the ultimate one
[17:13] <mime1111> ...
[17:14] <James147> mime1111: what version of kubuntu and kde do you ahve?
[17:14] <mime1111> 9.04 kde 4.2
[17:14] <James147> mime1111: upgrade
[17:14] <mime1111> did it
[17:14] <James147> 4.2 was horrific
[17:14] <mime1111> i cant switch to karmic
[17:14] <James147> mime1111: then upgrade again.... and again... and again... until your on the latest
[17:14] <mime1111> ok
[17:15] <mime1111> thanks peace and john, ill try folder permissions, look a good one, later
[17:15] <mime1111> cyaaaa
[17:15] <mime1111> and thnx
[17:15] <mime1111> i just love the solar system plasmoid :P
[17:16] <bethany> Ok i have it downloaded now can someone remind me wich folder the program files are in?
[17:18] <Peace-> bethany: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/22/plasma-desktopSU1705.jpg
[17:19] <BluesKaj> bethany, downloadeded what ?
[17:20] <BluesKaj> !wireshark
[17:20] <BluesKaj> !info wireshark
[17:22] <bethany> Peace-: ty peace found it
[17:23] <bethany> problem being there was no plugins folder just the extensions folder so i put it there (the flash file)
[17:27] <thecaptain2000> hi, anybody can point out an howto on how to set up wireless using wpa by hands, without using network manager? I used to do it using /etc/network/interfaces, but my knowledge is obsolete and it does not seem to work anymore
[18:20] <vbgunz> I have an esata disk with several encrypted partitions. If I explicitly mount /dev/mapper/name -> /dir , I gain access to the partition. If I boot up with the disk plugged in I gain access to it. *but* if I click on the partition in dolphin *errors* and it doesn't mount... what's up?
[18:32] <Keshl> I'm not abosutely sure here, but this is just my best guess.
[18:32] <Keshl> When you mount it via the shell, you're only mapping it into the system, not trying to actually *use* it.
[18:32] <Keshl> So there's no error since all you're doing is saying it's there.
[18:32] <Keshl> When Dolphin tries to do it, it mounts it properly, then tries to read the files. Obviously this fails since you haven't given it an encryption key.
[18:33] <Glycan> Hello
[18:33] <James147> ^^ more likly is taht udev cannot handel mounting encrpyted drives... vbgunz, have you tried adding an entry for it to /etc/fstab  ?
[18:33] <Glycan> How to you connect to internet when you install?
[18:33] <Glycan> For wireless, that is.
[18:34] <vbgunz> Keshl: the password dialog comes up. the error is An error occurred while accessing '596.2 GiB Encrypted Container', the system responded: org.freedesktop.UDisks.Error.Busy: One or more block devices are holding /dev/sdc6
[18:34] <Keshl> Glycan: If you're wired, just plug a cable in. Wireless, it depends on your setup. Does your router need a password?
[18:34] <Glycan> Yes
[18:34] <Keshl> Glycan: Does it use WEP or WPA?
[18:34] <Glycan> WEO
[18:34] <Glycan> WEP
[18:34] <James147> Glycan: same way after installation ^^ (best to boot the full version for it... you can install from the live desktop)
[18:34] <vbgunz> It's not busy or at least it shouldn't be. It's not mounted and when I go to mount it explicitly, it mounts without an issue and I can then browse it in dolphin
[18:34] <Keshl> vbgunz: Talk to James147, he knows more than me ^w^'
[18:34] <Glycan> Huh?
[18:34] <Glycan> I mean, during install, it says for best results ensure internet
[18:35] <Keshl> Glycan: Oh. Connect a wire.
[18:35] <Glycan> Oh dear.
[18:35] <Glycan> How troublesome.
[18:35] <Keshl> Glycan: You don't *need* it during the installation anyway.
[18:35] <Glycan> No?
[18:35] <Glycan> Okay, good.
[18:35] <Keshl> Glycan: The only time I'd worry is if you're on an SSD and absoutely paranoid about doing as few writes as possible.
[18:35] <James147> Glycan: it dosnt matter much... mostly its needed for installing extra packages and updateing... both can beb done after
[18:35] <Glycan> Crap.
[18:35] <Glycan> Okay
[18:35] <Glycan> Thnaks
[18:36] <Glycan> You people are much more responsive that the guys over at #ubuntu
[18:36] <Keshl> Glycan: It's the time of day, usually #ubuntu's more responsive ^w^'
[18:36] <Glycan> Ubuntu is more crowded
[18:36] <James147> Glycan: ig you do want to connect click the "try" button to boot a full desktop, connect then click the installer
[18:37] <Glycan> Nah, it's ok
[18:37] <Glycan> Guilded/Manual?
[18:37] <Glycan> Wich one is fro a serparate partition?
[18:38] <James147> Glycan: manual give you greatest contol over the partitioning
[18:38] <BluesKaj> thecaptain2000, ethernet?
[18:38] <vbgunz> I did add entries to fstab. If I boot up into Kubuntu with the external disk on, everything mounts. If I boot up with the disk off, I got to go through 5 prompts to skip or manually fix the disk. I tried nofail as an fstab option but that doesn't work the way I think it should. anyhow, dolphin I am convinced doesn't know how to handle luks encrypted partitions :/
[18:39] <vbgunz> I guess, I'd just like to confirm if for a fact, dolphin does not handle luks (so I know this isn't a bug). I've google my butt off on this one and am really stumped. I don't know if this is a bug or if dolphin is just limited here
[18:39] <James147> vbgunz: if you add noauto and users to fstab it should not mount them during boot and let users beable to mount them
[18:40] <vbgunz> James147: even root can't mount through dolphin
[18:40] <vbgunz> I should have said that, sorry
[18:40] <James147> vbgunz: probally a bug in dolphin.. or mroe likly udisk
[18:40] <BluesKaj> thecaptain2000, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[18:41] <James147> vbgunz: because dolphin uses udisk to my knowldge.. if mount works then noauto and users should allow normal users to mount the drives after boot
[18:41] <vbgunz> James147: I am gonna try that then. if I make that change to fstab now, do I have to reboot to try the change out?
[18:41] <James147> vbgunz: no, just unount and try remounting as you would
[18:42] <vbgunz> James147: this is what my options look like on these partitions users,noauto,noatime,defaults,errors=remount-ro      0       2
[18:42] <Glycan> ext4, right?
[18:42] <Glycan> Kubuntu seems oddly slow
[18:42] <Peace-> Glycan: ?
[18:43] <Peace-> Glycan: disable akonadi
[18:43] <Peace-> Glycan: disable semantic desktop
[18:43] <James147> Peace-: no need to disable aknoadi ^^ just the indexer
[18:44] <Peace-> i do this
[18:45] <Peace-> James147: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/configure-kubuntu-for-everyone/
[18:45] <Peace-> no issues here
[18:46] <vbgunz> I'm gonna try rebooting brb
[18:46] <Glycan> How?
[18:46] <Peace-> Glycan: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/configure-kubuntu-for-everyone/
[18:46] <Peace-> Glycan: there are gif photos
[18:50] <Glycan> Kubuntu feals overly shiny
[18:50] <Glycan> I don't trust it.,
[18:50] <Glycan> And no wobbely windows!
[18:50] <Glycan> Dear, dear.
[18:50] <vbgunz> yeah, root and myself can't mount encrypted partitions through dolphin's places. I can mount using mount but dolphin doesn't do it or doesn't know how. I just don't know if this is a limited feature or if it's an official bug of some sort
[18:50] <Glycan> Oh, god.
[18:51] <Glycan> This is horrid.
[18:51] <vbgunz> Glycan: whats the matter?
[18:51] <Glycan> Kubuntu is all wrong.
[18:51] <Peace-> Glycan: i guess you have some driver issues.
[18:51] <Peace-> kubuntu works fine here
[18:51] <Glycan> No, not in that sense.
[18:51] <Peace-> .
[18:51] <vbgunz> in a trollish sense?
[18:52] <Glycan> It too shiny, the layout is all wrong, the windows don't wobble...
[18:52] <Glycan> It's
[18:52] <yofel> erm, you can enable wobbly windows in the desktop effects
[18:52] <Glycan> I heard in some place someone got banned for irelivent spam.
[18:52] <yofel> and how is the layout wrong?
[18:52] <Glycan> The close window it on the right!
[18:52] <Glycan> Whoever heeard of  such maddnes!
[18:52] <Peace-> Glycan: here it's pretty fantastic http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/22/plasma-desktopvd1705.jpg
[18:52] <Peace-> .
[18:52] <yofel> blame ubuntu for putting it on the left
[18:52] <James147> Glycan: the layout is as wrong as you make it ^^ kde is flexable enough that you can make it look like what you wnat
[18:52] <Glycan> It should beb on the top!
[18:53] <yofel> you can put the panel on the top (I have it there)
[18:53] <yofel> and as James147 said, you can reorder the window button as you like
[18:53] <yofel> we're NOT going to change the default location though unless the KDE devs change it
[18:54] <Glycan> And 'passphrase'? Who the hell still uses passphrase?
[18:54] <Glycan> It's password, damit!
[18:54] <Peace-> omg
[18:54] <vbgunz> couldn't you change the entire button order, add/remove buttons to the window titlebar?
[18:54] <Peace-> kid
[18:54] <yofel> vbgunz: yes, you can
[18:55] <Peace-> yofel: there are javascript too
[18:55] <Peace-> for panels
[18:55] <vbgunz> yofel: I've added buttons but never really tried removing and reording the min/restore/max/close area
[18:55] <yofel> ah, didn't know about those
[18:55] <Peace-> yofel: like thsi http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/gnome-defaltt-panel-kde.gif
[18:55] <Peace-> for example
[18:55] <Peace-> or the mac one
[18:55] <yofel> heh, I tried the ubuntu layout for a while. Usable, but not worth the trouble IMHO
[18:56] <Peace-> Glycan: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/04/17/kde-configure-panels-in-gnome-way-configure-kde-desktop-for-each-user/
[18:56] <yofel> interesting one
[18:56]  * James147 prefers the unity layout :p though he cannot stand unity
[18:57] <Peace-> James147: mac one it's similar
[18:57] <Peace-> James147: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/kde-kubuntu-mac-style/ there is the javascript
[18:57] <James147> Peace-: hate the mac one
[18:57] <Peace-> i am sure it's easy
[18:57] <Peace-> LOl unity?
[18:58] <James147> Peace-: mostly the panel on the side... saves more psace then top or bottom panels.. espically with widescreens
[18:59] <yofel> true
[18:59] <Peace-> James147: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/22/plasma-desktopZx1705.jpg ?
[18:59] <Peace-> somethign like that?
[18:59] <James147> Peace-: without the top bar
[19:00] <James147> no need for two :)
[19:00] <Peace-> xD
[19:00] <Peace-> ah ok
[19:00] <James147> Peace-: and I cannot use global menu bars
[19:00] <Peace-> James147: you don't like?
[19:00] <Peace-> it
[19:00] <James147> dont mind it as an idea... it just dosnt work with my set up (focus follow mouse)
[19:01] <Peace-> ah ok
[19:01] <Peace-> yea i don't like it too
[19:01] <Peace-> but i am using beasue i am lazy
[19:01] <Peace-> xD
[19:01] <James147> focuse follow mouse is far more useful then a global menu bar... and there is no way they can work togeather
[19:01] <M__> hi
[19:01] <James147> Hello  M__
[19:25] <DarthFrog> Peace-: Wow, that KDE desktop at http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/22/plasma-desktopZx1705.jpg is stunning.
[19:40] <Peace-> DarthFrog: you can find how to get it on my blog
[19:40] <Peace-> it's easy..
[19:41] <Peace-> DarthFrog: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/
[19:41] <DarthFrog> Thanks but I rarely see my desktop. :-)  It's almost always covered by windows.
[19:42] <Peace-> no problem
[19:46] <sourcemaker> does kwallet use AES encryption?
[19:56] <lcb> Good UTC everyone
[19:58] <gomiboy> Oh god, it's 1306090654 seconds since 1/1/1970, i'm late! :D
[19:59] <lcb> hurry up gomiboy :p
[19:59] <lcb> Anyone (2, 3 or +) able to use Thunderbird with Mail Notification on Message Indicator? If so, which approach applied?
[19:59] <lcb> on Kubuntu! of course...
[20:01] <lcb> I'll give a candy to a workable solution.
[20:12] <akis> hi, i am running quassel. does any know in which directory stores this program its seting and logs?
[20:12] <yofel> ~/.config/quassel-irc.org
[20:13] <yofel> the logs are in the sqlite database
[20:13] <Glycan> .part
[20:13] <akis> ok. thnaks. is it any way to change the directory to a selected one like temp for example?
[20:14] <James147> akis: dont think so, but you can symlink it to another location if you need it
[20:15] <akis> where can i find sqlite database?
[20:15] <akis> what u mean with "symlink"?
[20:17] <James147> akis:symbolic link... (in windows terms a shortcut"
[20:18] <akis> ok, i c.
[21:22] <floown> find $reports/*~ -exec rm -i {} \;     <-------- is this command ok ? :|
[21:49] <vezeena> I'm having a problem with my sound, but no idea what is wrong. it was working a few days ago and now does not. Any ideas what is wrong?
[21:53] <jay> hi
[21:54] <jay_> Hello
[21:54] <jay_> anyone here
[21:54] <vezeena> hey
[21:54] <jay_> Veneeza message me back
[22:02] <jay_> Hello
[22:02] <jay_> anyone here
[22:02] <yohanko0> hello
[22:02] <yofel> jay_: pong
[22:10] <vezeena> I'm having a problem with my sound, but no idea what is wrong. it was working a few days ago and now does not. Any ideas what is wrong?
[22:46] <jay> Hello
[22:46] <jay> anyone here
[22:46] <J124> Hello
[22:46] <J124> anyone here
[22:47] <J124> hello??
[22:47] <J124> ???
[22:48] <J124> IS anyone here?
[22:48] <James147> J124: yes
[22:49] <James147> J124: most only respond to questions however
[22:49] <J124> James reply to my pm
[22:49] <James147> !pm | J124
[22:49] <J124> ok
[22:49] <J124> James may I pm you
[22:50] <James147> not without good reason
[22:50] <J124> well I need help with a probelm
[22:50] <J124> for my buisness
[22:50] <James147> then reread ubottu message
[22:51] <J124> i did
[22:51] <J124> so can you help?
[22:51] <James147> I dont know since you havnt asked a question
[22:51] <J124> oh
[22:51] <J124> well its a private matter
[22:52] <J124> and i dont wish to discuss it here
[22:52] <J124> in the main
[22:52] <J124> only in private
[22:52] <James147> ...
[22:52] <Unit193> ...
[22:52] <J124> well
[22:52] <J124> come on
[22:52] <J124> you wouldnt want a personal probelm to be unvielied
[22:53] <Unit193> J124: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[22:53] <James147> J124: Havnt yet seen a personal question appropate for this channel ^^ ... just give the technical details
[22:53] <J124> well
[22:54] <J124> I need to edit a persons face with Photoshop
[22:54] <James147> !gimp
[22:54] <szal> !wine
[22:55] <James147> J124: if you have any issues other then getting it running you may want to read some tutorials
[22:55] <szal> J124: no unsolicited private messages please
[22:55] <J124> ok
[22:56] <J124> anyone here
[22:56] <James147> J124: lots ^^ but people dont tend to respond unless you ask a question
[22:57] <James147> J124: if you have a problem running photoshop or an alternitive then ask, if its a problem using it then this isnt the channel to ask
[22:57] <J124> oh
[22:57] <J124> well I have to edit a persons face
[22:57] <J124> but I am not sure what to do
[22:57] <J124> I have to make it better looking
[22:58] <J124> and more porportional
[22:58] <FloodBotK1> J124: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:58] <J124> May I show you guys the pic?
[22:58] <James147> J124: then this isnt the channel to ask... you need to go read some tutorials and practus allot... muniplating immages isnt as simple as it seems
[22:58] <J124> I know what to do
[22:58] <J124> but not sure what to do to the face
[23:01] <szal> anyhoo, not exactly a *buntu problem, especially since you're using PS, which isn't even a Linux application
[23:10] <kubu2> why doesn't dolphin refresh the folder contents when re-opened? is this a bug?
[23:11] <James147> kubu2: local or remote folders?
[23:12] <kubu2> links to a partition
[23:12] <kubu2> they still remain invalid after mounting
[23:13] <James147> hmm, what version of kde?
[23:13] <kubu2> 4.6.3.
[23:14] <James147> kubu2: mounting manually? or with dolphin/the device notifier?
[23:15] <kubu2> James147: mounted manually thru dolphin
[23:15]  * James147 means using the mount command when he said manually
[23:16] <kubu2> mounted by clicking on teh places pane
[23:16] <kubu2> *the
[23:16] <James147> kubu2: and what exatly happen when you do?
[23:17] <kubu2> James147: what do you mean?
[23:17] <James147> kubu2: what happens when you click the icon for the device in places and what did you expect to happen
[23:18] <kubu2> James147: I'd expect those invalid links to become valid once I mounted them(clicked places)
[23:20] <KM124> Hello
[23:20] <KM124> anyone here?
[23:20] <jcgs> yeah me again
[23:20] <KM124> lol
[23:20] <KM124> hi jcgs
[23:21] <jcgs> hi lol
[23:28] <kubu2> James147: are you still there?
[23:28] <James147> yes
[23:28] <kubu2> have you confirmed? or just me?
[23:29] <James147> kubu2: not entirly sure what you are seeing...
[23:29] <James147> kubu2: Here when you click on a unmounted p[artition in dolphin it mounts it and takes you to the mount location
[23:30] <kubu2> James147: create a link to a partition in your home folder. unmount partiton. close dolphin and then open home folder
[23:31] <kubu2> you see thast they are invalid. now click the partition and you see they are still invalid
[23:31] <kubu2> even thouhg it's already valid
[23:32] <James147> kubu2: clicking on them again just takes me to the folder as expected
[23:32] <kubu2> James147: open you home folder and see the links
[23:33] <James147> kubu2: no links in the home folder
[23:33] <kubu2> James147: I said create one
[23:34] <James147> kubu2: o symlinks? that wont work
[23:34] <kubu2> James147: why not?
[23:35] <James147> kubu2: syslink points to a location... it dosnt know about partitions... if you remove the location then it becomes an invalid link
[23:35] <szal> kubu2: why aren't you mounting the disks in question through /etc/fstab?
[23:36] <jay> Hello
[23:36] <jay> anyone here
[23:36] <James147> kubu2: but if you need to creat a link to a drive then why unmount the drive?
[23:36] <szal> jay: wrong question
[23:36] <jay> oh
[23:36] <jay> ...
[23:36] <kubu2> szal: i ONLY MOUNT IT WHEN i NEEDED IT
[23:36] <kubu2> sorry
[23:36] <James147> kubu2: why?
[23:36] <kubu2> I only mount it whne needed
[23:37] <James147> kubu2: removable?
[23:37] <szal> why that, that is the question
[23:38] <kubu2> what's wrong with mounting as needed? easy with dolphin 1-click
[23:39] <szal> what's wrong w/ having them mounted at boot time?  no click needed ;)
[23:40] <kubu2> but that's not the issue.  the issuse is why doesn't dolphin refresh when you open a folder
[23:40] <James147> kubu2: well ^^ for one you cannot create symlinks
[23:40] <kubu2> James147: why not?
[23:40] <James147> kubu2: syslink points to a location... it dosnt know about partitions... if you remove the location then it becomes an invalid link
[23:41] <James147> ^^ there is no way a symlink knows it poitns to a folder on a device or how to mount that folder
[23:41] <kubu2> James147: this is a link to a partition/folder
[23:41] <szal> James147: seems you don't understand the concept of mounting partitions in Linux ;)
[23:41] <James147> if you want to use crossfilesystem symlinks then make sure the partition is always mounted... if you dont want to do that then dont create or expect crossfilesystem symlinks to work
[23:42] <szal> James147: I had that concept working well for quite a while, though mounted through fstab
[23:43] <kubu2> mine is working quite well except that I ave to manually F5 to reload to make them valid.
[23:45] <kubu2> I'd expect a file manager to refresh automatically the folder contents when opened
[23:45] <James147> kubu2: how are you creating these links?
[23:47] <kubu2> James147: you can always create links whether they are valid or not
[23:50] <James147> kubu2: create new > link to location... behaves as expected... takes you to the location and errors if its not mounted
[23:51] <James147> kubu2: create new > link to hdd  also does wahts expected and errors with unable to find entry in /etc/fstab if its unmounted
[23:51] <kubu2> James147: forget it
[23:53] <Guest50133> Hello
[23:53] <Guest50133> anyone here?
[23:54] <kubu2> everyone
[23:54] <szal> Guest50133: wrong question
[23:55] <jcgs> why do you ask?
[23:57] <jcgs> Guest50133: why do you ask?