| UndiFineD | I hate the wiki surge protection | 01:59 |
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| UndiFineD | slows me down in my tagging process | 02:00 |
| UndiFineD | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryObsolete | 02:00 |
| vtanthropologist | Phil, are you there? | 20:45 |
| vtanthropologist | Phil, I'm online | 21:08 |
| * UndiFineD waves at vtanthropologist | 22:35 | |
| UndiFineD | I have been busy yesterday | 22:42 |
| UndiFineD | I got a number of pages tagged up for deletion, but we still need to review them | 22:43 |
| UndiFineD | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag/Deletion/List | 22:43 |
| Rocket2DMn | we have a ton of pages tagged | 22:43 |
| Rocket2DMn | most are not ready to be deleted | 22:43 |
| Rocket2DMn | check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/DeletingAndRenaming | 22:43 |
| Rocket2DMn | ive deleted a ton of pages this last week though | 22:44 |
| Rocket2DMn | doing some right now actually | 22:44 |
| UndiFineD | great | 22:45 |
| Rocket2DMn | the biggest thing is getting pages unlinked from other pages | 22:46 |
| UndiFineD | how do you search ? google ? | 22:46 |
| Rocket2DMn | some pages on the list should not be deleted at all as they are linked from the serverguide | 22:46 |
| Rocket2DMn | other may be salvageable | 22:46 |
| Rocket2DMn | no, just click on the title at the top | 22:47 |
| Rocket2DMn | if you mouseover if will say Do a full search... | 22:47 |
| UndiFineD | and if nothing is found, should I edit the page ? or something else ? | 22:48 |
| UndiFineD | perhaps a searched and safe to change tag ? | 22:49 |
| Rocket2DMn | if nothing is linked to it, it's in a better state to be deleted | 22:51 |
| Rocket2DMn | its really a judgment call about whether a page should be deleted | 22:51 |
| MrChrisDruif | That's true, still you've got persons who have bookmarked it right? | 22:52 |
| Rocket2DMn | there are a lot of really old pages, but some of the are tightly integrated with others which makes them difficult and time consuimg to delete | 22:52 |
| UndiFineD | well I dont havve the rights to do it | 22:52 |
| UndiFineD | yet | 22:52 |
| Rocket2DMn | MrChrisDruif, yeah, it will break bookmarks. In some cases a redirect is better to use | 22:52 |
| Rocket2DMn | however, for stuff that just isnt applicable anymore, deleting works | 22:52 |
| UndiFineD | but I guess the UBT wiki team could help to relief search efforts here | 22:53 |
| MrChrisDruif | +1 on that, good learning experience as well? | 22:53 |
| UndiFineD | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=linkto%3A%22vsftpd%22 | 22:54 |
| Rocket2DMn | tagging is helpful, but getting pages up to date is even better :) | 22:54 |
| UndiFineD | nothing found | 22:54 |
| Rocket2DMn | UndiFineD, i know for a fact that that page is linked from the serverguide | 22:54 |
| Rocket2DMn | Adam Sommer maintains the server guide | 22:54 |
| UndiFineD | so google search might be safer here ? | 22:55 |
| UndiFineD | the wiki is not finding anything | 22:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | Rocket2DMn; I agree, why only tag if you can fix it :) | 22:55 |
| Rocket2DMn | UndiFineD, perhaps | 22:57 |
| Rocket2DMn | wiki pages are notoriously difficult to keep up to date since things change so fast | 22:57 |
| MrChrisDruif | Rocket2DMn; Isn't that what Mallard is going to help with? | 22:58 |
| Rocket2DMn | MrChrisDruif, no, mallard is used for the official docs | 22:59 |
| MrChrisDruif | As it can output to all three systems currently in place? | 22:59 |
| Rocket2DMn | anything at /community on h.u..c is community wiki | 22:59 |
| MrChrisDruif | I thought it could also output to wiki format? | 22:59 |
| Rocket2DMn | not sure, it probably could if somebody writes a transformation for it, but we dont use official docs like that | 23:00 |
| Rocket2DMn | we ship the official docs in mallard format to be read in yelp, then build them to html to post online | 23:00 |
| Rocket2DMn | they can only be edited at the bzr source | 23:00 |
| UndiFineD | http://www.google.com/search?q=site:help.ubuntu.com+https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2Fvsftpd | 23:01 |
| Rocket2DMn | UndiFineD, that's not showing links, just instances of vsftpd | 23:02 |
| Rocket2DMn | i'm also not sure what to do about translated pages on the wiki | 23:03 |
| Rocket2DMn | some are marked for deletion, but i think we allow translated wiki pages | 23:03 |
| Rocket2DMn | not sure we suggest doing it, but i dont recall us ever going out of our way to get rid of them | 23:04 |
| MrChrisDruif | Isn't it also true LoCo's will start to use help.u.c. for their help pages? | 23:04 |
| Rocket2DMn | MrChrisDruif, i think we talking about allowing the transalted official docs to be hosted | 23:04 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well, I'm only expressing what I've heard in the ubt Wiki meeting | 23:05 |
| UndiFineD | yes, that is for official docs initially | 23:06 |
| UndiFineD | but if the official docs refer to translated community docs, they might be created | 23:06 |
| MrChrisDruif | So only official docs will be put on the help pages, eventually translated to other languages? | 23:07 |
| MrChrisDruif | (Most are already translated afaik) | 23:07 |
| Rocket2DMn | i think it will just be an export of the translations directly | 23:10 |
| Rocket2DMn | translators wont work on the html pages, they just translate the mallard source which gets built into html just like the english docs | 23:11 |
| MrChrisDruif | Indeed | 23:12 |
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