[00:00] <UndiFineD> LjL, I always forget these silly little things
[00:00] <topyli> welcome to the funny farm
[00:00] <LjL> UndiFineD: now you'll be pointed and laughed at in most channels you join! \o/
[00:00] <topyli> hehe
[00:00] <rww> and are able to kickban LjL from here
[00:01] <rww> I mean... congratulations!
[00:01] <UndiFineD> hah
[00:03] <UndiFineD> I am not wearing steel pointed shoes
[00:03] <UndiFineD> high heels are for my GF
[00:10] <topyli> UndiFineD: your cloak has a typo, i requested a fix :)
[00:11] <rww> lol.
[00:11] <topyli> your own fault for having a creative nick!
[00:12] <rww> that is longer than 3 characters
[00:12] <UndiFineD> hah
[00:13] <topyli> yeah. doubles are allowded (6), but unconvenional spelling is just weird
[00:13] <UndiFineD> indeed it is intentional
[00:14] <UndiFineD> in the past I could simply find all pages with my nick, but typo's overruled that
[00:14] <topyli> i'm sure. staff just read it wrong. worry not, they'll fix it once they get around to it
[00:15] <UndiFineD> now if only they'd let me in on linkedin, for which I had requested access 5 times already
[00:15] <topyli> huh? can't everybody join?
[00:15] <topyli> oh you mean the ubuntu members group there
[00:15] <UndiFineD> yeah
[00:16] <rww> isn't MTeck the one in charge of that?
[00:16] <topyli> maybe it's unmaintainded. who's supposed to.... oh
[00:16] <rww> yes, he is
[00:16] <topyli> UndiFineD: so poke him
[00:17] <UndiFineD> no it is maintained, but they do not read messages well
[00:17] <rww> he isn't online. memoserv! (mtecknology)
[00:17] <rww> although hrm, apparently he's online under a different nick somewhere
[00:17] <rww> aha! EvilMTeck
[00:18] <topyli> boo
[00:18] <topyli> that's staff tradition
[00:18] <rww> UndiFineD: it's now fixed
[00:18] <topyli> yay
[00:19] <UndiFineD> cool
[00:43] <EvilMTeck> EvilMTeck: hm?
[00:44] <MTecknology> topyli: I like it though
[00:44] <rww> wannabee staffer ;P
[00:44] <rww> anyways UndiFineD wanted to join your LinkedIn Ubuntu thingadoodle
[00:45] <MTecknology> is he one of the people that never listened to the email I sent to them?
[00:45]  * MTecknology looks
[00:45] <rww> dunno
[00:46] <UndiFineD> I doubt that
[00:46] <rww> MTecknology: I'm not planning on using LinkedIn ever, but I'm vaguely curious: what's in the email?
[00:48] <MTecknology> rww: I actually don't remember... every time i click decline there's an auto message sent out - let me go grab it
[00:49] <UndiFineD> MTecknology, would you decline the same person 3 times on the same day ?
[00:49] <UndiFineD> without looking at the message they send
[00:50] <MTecknology> rww: http://dpaste.com/545157/
[00:50] <MTecknology> that message lies though... linkedin doesn't let me use email verification - which made things easy
[00:51] <MTecknology> UndiFineD: name?
[00:52] <UndiFineD> k.dejong
[00:52] <UndiFineD> Keimpe de Jong
[00:53] <MTecknology> I don't see your request listed
[00:54] <UndiFineD> no it has been a while
[00:54] <MTecknology> https://launchpad.net/people/?name=de+Jong%2C+Keimpe&searchfor=all
[00:54] <UndiFineD> MTecknology, send my request just now
[00:55] <UndiFineD> https://launchpad.net/~k.dejong
[00:55] <MTecknology> approved - next time read the message you're sent
[00:56] <rww> ironically, that silly LP search page doesn't find MTecknology either.
[00:56] <UndiFineD> well, if I reply it is not read
[00:56] <rww> oh, I lie, I can't spell
[00:57] <MTecknology> 29 requests to join this week..
[00:59] <UndiFineD> well people are at least interested :)
[01:01] <rww> MTecknology: 90% of which aren't valid requests, I'd guess?
[01:01] <MTecknology> rww: pretty much
[01:01] <rww> yeah, concept of an "Ubuntu Member" isn't immediately obvious to a lot of people
[01:03]  * Cheri703 might be trying to become an ubuntu member soon
[01:07] <MTecknology> rww: well.... 4 potentially legit....
[01:08] <MTecknology> better than normal odds
[20:44] <MichealH> Is the Lubuntu Channels Official?
[20:44] <MichealH> As Lubuntu is now Official
[20:46] <persia> MichealH: How do you mean "Official"?  Do you mean "have all the i's been dotted and t's crossed" or do you mean "These are considered important channels and part of the Ubuntu channel set"?
[20:47] <MichealH> I mean is the #lubuntu channel Core?
[20:47] <MichealH> BRB
[20:47] <MichealH> Switching PC's
[20:50] <persia> I think "Core" and "Official" are very different, and should be kept that way.  There's lots of "Official" channels that aren't "Core".
[20:50] <rww> MichealH: Unless something changed recently and I haven't heard about it and the documentation hasn't been updated, it's not managed by the IRC team, so it's not a core channel.
[20:50] <rww> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/Scope lists the ones that are.
[20:51] <rww> Lubuntu's council and the IRC council would presumably have to discuss it if they wanted #lubuntu to be managed by the IRC team.
[20:53] <persia> Well, no, as Lubuntu doesn't have a "council".
[20:54] <rww> Fun. Well whoever's responsible for important decisions there I guess ;P
[20:54] <MichealH> The founder of #lubuntu? :P
[20:54] <persia> Anyway, that's just details: for folk not part of Lubuntu and not on the IRCC, it's best to consider the Lubuntu channels the same as any other flavour at this point.
[20:55] <persia> (and I recommend not poking this too much if you don't fit into those categories unless there is some issue happening that needs it poked, which IRCC can probably help sort)
[20:55] <rww> persia: I was replying to MichealH asking whether the channels are core channels. The word "official" is thrown around enough that I don't bother trying to define it :P
[20:56] <persia> rww, "Core" has been messy and contentious in it's time as well :)
[20:56] <rww> persia: and now we have a nice shiny list and it hasn't been an issue in a while, afaik ;P
[20:57] <rww> and from the IRC op perspective, it's an important distinction, as core channel implies the ops there have bantracker access for the whole namespace, idle in -ops, etc., etc.
[20:57] <LjL> i don't recommend recommending against the public not commenting over matters ;(
[20:57] <persia> rww, Yeah, we said that last time we had a list :)  Note that I'm happy the issue is quiet, and I hope it's a long while before we discuss it again: I just believe that any fixed lists are inherently unscalable, so therefore need continued discussion as the project changes.
[20:58] <MichealH> As a op of #lubuntu, I may find the bantracker and all of ubottu's features to be useful to the channel
[20:58] <persia> LjL, Comments are fine.  Given the scrambling to sort Lubuntu stuff lately, I suspect the folks that need to do things are busy enough that more folk asking them to do more things won't help much yet.
[20:58] <rww> MichealH: considering that #lubuntu has 1 ban set, I doubt this.
[20:59] <rww> but anyway, it's not my decision, so *shrug*
[20:59] <MichealH> rww: But as it grows, we may need it
[21:00] <MichealH> persia: I did not ask them to do it, I just asked if it was core or not
[21:01] <persia> Oh, I know :)
[21:01] <MichealH> Although I think it would benifit us later on :)
[21:02] <rww> incidentally, the ban's set against a dynamic hostname that's no longer valid anyway, so is removable ;)
[21:05] <MichealH> heh
[21:05] <LjL> rww is annoying don't mind him
[21:06] <LjL> he wants banlists to be clean because a clean banlist is a happier banlist or something
[21:06] <MichealH> Reminds me of my school - "A tidy tie is a happy tie"
[21:06] <MichealH> lulz
[21:07] <rww> LjL: well, you know, it's one less banlist slot to hunt down when #lubuntu grows and the list gets full.
[21:10] <LjL> *censors himself*
[21:18] <MichealH> rww: BTW, How did you know that was dynamic?
[21:18] <rww> MichealH: because I recognize the user from #ubuntu, and they've switched hostnames since that one.
[22:01] <clandestino> ciao a tutti, sono di nuovo qui....non è cambiato nulla
[22:02] <clandestino> mi è venuta però un'idea...tempo fa avevo provato ad installare kde come alternativa a gnome, quindi credo di avere un ibrido....
[22:04] <LjL> clandestino: mi sa che stai cercando #ubuntu-it, questo è #ubuntu-irc