[00:01] penguin42: {₵eะ}Project - 7: Anyone want a DDoS? <-- spamming this was the most recent one :p [00:01] just before the attack started, it's not exactly rocket science. [00:01] Ah that's the problem [00:01] Azelphur, you're making the mistake of *assuming* that the "tech" people at comcast can understand the stuff you're sending them ;-) [00:02] indeed, you'd think the abuse@ people would be somewhat trained to deal with (D)DoS attacks [00:02] maybe if you inserted some OMG PONIES, they might get it. [00:02] lol [00:02] ponies? [00:02] maybe I should do what gamesurge do when ISP's refuse to respond to abuse@ emails [00:03] they just kline the entire ISP with a message telling the users to call their ISP and complain to get the issue resolved [00:03] amazingly seems to work rather well [00:05] like this http://www.irc-junkie.org/2005-05-26/troublemaker-forces-gamesurge-to-gline-isp/ \o/ [08:33] morning everyone [08:37] \o [09:18] Hi anyone? [09:19] hello [09:29] \o [09:39] Morning all [09:53] Aloha [09:57] good morning everyone. [10:00] bug #775001 [10:00] Launchpad bug 775001 in mobile-broadband-provider-info (Ubuntu) "Settings incorrect for Vodafone 'Top up and go'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/775001 [10:06] popey: you left surrey you're missed :( [10:07] hah [10:07] so robert can moan at me about his bug [10:07] I said I'd poke someone during the week === ChrisB is now known as Guest42041 [10:15] Ello peeps [10:15] morning bigcalm [10:15] Hi brobostigon [10:32] Aloha [10:33] morning livingdaylight [10:33] Hi, the past couple of weeks, I have had a few problems with my router and ISP, and have had to use the Starbucks not far away to use the net. I havent used Ubuntu, as I am not sure its safe enough. I had to use my windows instead. I found something about using OpenVPN, found here.....http://vpnblog.info/ubuntu1010-openvpn-strongvpn.html but I am having a problem. I followed the first step, no problems, then it asks you to do the second s [10:33] tep, but where are the configuration file, and for that matter, where is OpenVPN installed to in the first step? [10:35] almost everyone except for RSM and Maureen on this list use Apple macs - http://usesthis.com/archives/ [10:35] brobostigon, morning [10:35] scoundrel50a, safe or unsafe in what sense? [10:37] * livingdaylight is watching debate on society with or without religion on bbc1 [10:46] well, I was warned using ubuntu without firewall, that it would be unsafe, hence to use the Openvpn [10:46] <_serial_> the ports are shut by default with linux right? [10:47] <_serial_> i use gufw for all my firewall needs, very useful :) [10:47] using the Starbucks internet [10:47] <_serial_> ah [10:47] <_serial_> vpn or tor then :/ [10:48] that is why I asked about installing the vpn, I'm having problems with it. The second part of the install instructions I just dont understand. [10:48] if you follow the url I gave [10:48] scoundrel50a: or an ssh tunnel - easier to setup IMO [10:49] <_serial_> x forwarding with ssh? [10:49] danfish: oh ok, where is an easy set up instruction page for that? [10:49] no - using the -D option to set up a proxy [10:50] scoundrel50a: give me a moment, but the command is ssh -D 8000 remoteserverip, then set the proxy settings to use localhost and port 8000 [10:51] http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/ [10:54] danfish: what would I need to put in for the username and ip address? How can I find that out? [10:57] scoundrel50a: it does assume that you have an account on a remote server with ssh access [10:59] danfish: ok, dont know what that is, so how do I get one. [10:59] I havw my own web server with ssh access is that what you talk about? [10:59] scoundrel50a: yup - that should do [11:00] oh, so I connect to my server, then how does it work, just open up a browser is it, or do you have to use the terminal? [11:25] Hi all. [11:26] How do I install the usleep (1) command on Ubuntu? [12:08] rindolf: it's not a command, it's a function in C from what I can tell. [12:17] dwatkins: it's also a command-line command. [12:19] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=usleep&mode=&suite=natty&arch=any [12:19] rindolf: ^^ [12:20] dutchie: hmmm.... I want /bin/usleep [12:43] rindolf: what does it do? [12:43] AlanBell: sleep for certain microseconds. [12:43] scoundrel50a: you can forward ports to your current location [12:44] scoundrel50a: or use it as a socks proxy on localhost [12:45] scoundrel50a: so with the command danfish gave set your firefox settings to use a socks proxy on localhost port 8000 [12:45] rindolf: the sleep command looks like it takes fractions of seconds [12:46] AlanBell: micro-seconds. [12:46] AlanBell: ah, you mean sleep(1) [12:46] so sleep 0.001 would sleep for a microsecond [12:47] good luck with that [12:47] AlanBell: Sorry it took so long to get back to you, been a bit busy. Just found that in FF about the proxy, can the proxy settings be done in Google Chrome? [12:47] process init takes well over microseconds [12:47] yeah, doubt it is accurate to that level [12:47] scoundrel50a: sure [12:48] Have you got a sleep that takes a floating point number? Mine only takes an int :( [12:48] yes, sleep from gnu coreutils takes a float [12:49] at least it does according to the manual page [12:49] Ossum. [12:49] AlanBell: ok, thank you, I'll take a look at that. Try it before I go out, see if I can get it to work. [12:49] ali1234: sleep 0.001 will sleep for a millisecond. [12:50] time sleep 0.000001 [12:50] real 0m0.003s [12:50] Is there something like FoxyProxy for Google Chrome? [12:50] might as well just call /bin/true for that... [12:50] indeed [12:54] So, end of the world was cancelled again. [12:54] gullible much? :) [12:55] I was hoping for a big dip in the market in the approach. :( [13:02] * penguin42 is tempted to submit a bug 'System still works after the end of the world' [13:06] Maybe it did end, but rebooted. We'd never notice. [13:24] if the world did end, all that would be left is millions of computers sitting there with the words "It is now safe to turn off your computer" on the monitor [13:25] lol === tubadaz_ is now known as tubadaz [14:25] [Laura Czajkowski] How Natty CDs are distributed in the Ubuntu-ie LoCo - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/05/22/how-natty-cds-are-distributed-in-the-ubuntu-ie-loco/ [14:26] apparently our CDs should have arrived a couple of weeks ago, they didn't so I will find out what happened to them [14:27] well lets not jump to alarm bells [14:27] they go out in bunches [14:27] or do they... [14:27] I'm sure they'll arrive soon [14:29] czajkowski: considering I've been hearing LoCo teams mention getting CDs for at least 2 weeks, I don't think an e-mail saying 'hey, it seems like a lot of other teams have gotten their CDs and I just wanted to make sure you'd received our order', is out of line [14:29] oh i know [14:29] Pendulum: where did you hear that? [14:30] AlanBell: I can't remember. Just saw people talking about it at various points. Maybe in #ubuntu-locoteams === tubadaz_ is now known as tubadaz [14:44] has anybody managed to get a wireless modem working via USB? I seem to be having some trouble with my Three dongle. I've fiddled around with the network settings and even dnoe a little work in the terminal, but nothing. Anybody got an idea what could correct this issue? [14:45] apacketofsweets: what's the actual model of the modem? [14:45] it's a Huawei E5830 [14:46] I *think* that mounts as an external disk first [14:47] Thanks, I'll go investigate! [14:47] and you need to run somethink like usbmodeswitcher [14:48] great, thanks [14:57] anyone know how I'd go about debugging a hang on startup? [14:57] it was working, then I installed Ubuntu desktop :( [15:01] Azelphur: computer startup? [15:01] Azelphur: Try starting without the splash/quiet options [15:01] ok :p [15:01] you should get a load of messages across the screen that way :) [15:10] MartijnVdS: it hangs at Starting NSM status monitor [ OK ] [15:11] Azelphur: what's that? [15:11] no idea [15:11] if it's at all relevant, I'm netbooting :p [15:11] it's NFS-related [15:11] No idea what is it though [15:11] my netboot share is NFS [15:11] fun [15:11] never used that bit [15:12] Azelphur: probably a hostname lookup failure or something like that [15:12] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/May%202011/2011-05-22-151110_720x446_scrot.png [15:14] nfs root is a bit of a black art [15:14] * penguin42 hasn't done it for a while [15:14] Azelphur: the pipefs bit might be related [15:15] penguin42: maybe [15:15] Azelphur: How are you doing the root nfs - by passing root=/dev/nfs or by using an nfs mount in the initrd? [15:16] yea [15:16] DEFAULT vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-server root=/dev/nfs,rw initrd=initrd.img-2.6.38-8-server nfsroot=192.168.1.80:/nfsroot ip=dhcp rw [15:20] maybe I should just try a fresh install of Ubuntu on the nfs drive [15:21] Azelphur: given the mumbling about nfsv4 you could try forcing the server down to nfsv3 [15:21] just got more messages, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/May%202011/2011-05-22-152031_720x446_scrot.png [15:21] Azelphur: Also, there are alternatives - I did have iscsi root working on lucid; but it's broken on natty [15:21] took way more than 120 seconds for that to appear [15:21] penguin42: it did actually work, I installed ubuntu-desktop and it went up the wall [15:23] hmm odd [15:27] gonna try with a fresh installation of ubuntu desktop on /nfsroot [15:29] Azelphur: Looking at some notes, there is an option nfsrootdebug you can pass - not sure it will help [15:30] Azelphur: The other thought if you've just put ubuntu-desktop in is whether it's picked up networkmanager and it's doing something evil to your networking [15:30] haha [15:32] penguin42: genius, your right. [15:32] got it to boot now :D [15:32] yeh! [15:32] a quick tweak in /etc/network/interfaces, and we're off. [15:32] * Azelphur hugs penguin42 [15:34] so how many of the machines have you got on so far? [15:34] 1, now that I have netboot working we should bounce up to 4 pretty quickly :) [16:00] hello dearies :-) [16:00] and greetings from downtown San Francisco [16:01] hiya Myrtti [16:01] :-D [16:01] Afternoon/Morning Myrtti [16:05] helloooo [16:05] ooh i've always wanted to visit SF [16:19] As soon as SF was mentioned, it reminded me of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P7_jSDF9yw [16:23] Michael Douglas was YOUNG!? [16:24] o/ Myrtti [16:32] daftykins: my second time here, were here last year [16:32] well, not here to be precise [16:32] but Bay area [16:32] neat [16:33] steal a muscle car and bounce and jump up and down the crazy hill streets yet? :> [16:36] nah [16:37] argh, need to stop munching candy popcorn [16:38] Anyone got any ideas on this ATI problem? http://pastebin.com/mLYxgVFd [16:39] yep you own ATI [16:39] (sorry) [16:39] [ 18.649] (WW) fglrx(0): * kernel module (fglrx.ko) may be missing or incompatible * [16:39] lol [16:39] don't use fglrx [16:39] I need to use fglrx [16:39] No, you don't. [16:39] lol [16:39] this may go on for a long time [16:39] MartijnVdS: open driver can do opencl? [16:39] Azelphur: does it need to? [16:39] yes. [16:40] Azelphur: in that case, install fglrx properly, and not half ;) [16:40] I used jockey to install it [16:40] did you also reboot? [16:40] yes [16:40] --> support@amd.com [16:41] :( [16:41] Azelphur: try the Wiki :) [16:43] Azelphur: what changed between it working and not? or is it someones that hasn't yet worked? [16:43] it hasn't yet worked :p [16:43] what happens if you boot from disk instead of net? [16:44] BAH [16:44] Laney: ? [16:44] MartijnVdS: the disk one works, it's the netbooted boxes I'm having issues with \o/ [16:44] deleted a git clone before i'd pushed the patches [16:44] Azelphur: that should give you a clue where to search :) [16:45] I see a difference, the main node has /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko but the netboot ones don't [16:45] guess I want the generic kernel :) [16:46] why are you netbooting anyway? [16:46] netboot = teh scarey [16:46] got a few boxes [16:47] is there any way I can force a manual dkms run? [16:47] Azelphur: man dkms :) [16:48] \o/ [17:26] Azelphur: you may as well go gentoo, it's very netboot friendly and you might even save some power [17:27] maybe [17:54] hello === MichealH` is now known as Guest32105 === MichealH1 is now known as MichealH [18:44] * daubers puts star wars on the telle [18:44] which hnnel? [18:44] "HDMI1" [18:44] :( [18:45] Star Trel [18:45] blah [18:45] star trek: voy on sky atlantic.. [18:45] dont have that channel. [18:47] neither do I [18:47] I think [18:47] ok. [18:47] I have syfy though [18:47] i dont, :( [18:48] I heard one can opt for regular gnome desktop at login, but don't see the option, anyone? [18:48] MartijnVdS: On my current telly, it's actually AV1 :( [18:48] daubers: Aww :( [18:49] MartijnVdS: New telle at the end of the month though \o/ Finally banishing the last CRT in the house [18:50] \o/ [18:50] hm, I need a new sports watch/heart-rate monitor/etc. [18:50] this one's running out of battery [18:51] Thought you where going to say it had a CRT in it then! [18:51] Would have been most impressed [18:51] (and the buttons don't like the 1.5 year worth of sweat/gunk-buildup :)) [18:57] nice to be in Ubuntu classic again [18:57] was about to ask if you found it yet :) tricky bugger doesn't appear until you've already entered your username [18:58] shauno, yea, that's what threw me [19:09] MartijnVdS: grr, I just copied the (working) OS from the master node to the nfsroot [19:09] and I still have the same issue [19:09] Azelphur: maybe it isn't finding the .ko early enough during boot? [19:10] *shrug* [19:11] MartijnVdS: fglrx is loaded though :p [19:11] Azelphur: is the Xorg driver the same version as the kernel driver? [19:11] how do I tell? [19:11] dpkg -l? [19:11] check Xorg.0.log for the version number? === Guest45300 is now known as MichealH [19:12] MartijnVdS: what package? [19:12] the fglrx ones [19:13] MartijnVdS: http://pastebin.com/Siy1809x [19:14] [ 20.835] (EE) fglrx(0): Not enough video memory to allocate primary surface (frame buffer). [19:14] Azelphur: Is that all of Xorg.0.log? [19:14] nope, lemme paste up the whole thing [19:14] Azelphur: also, dpkg -l \*fglrx\* [19:16] MartijnVdS: http://pastebin.com/81XHi8CG [19:17] [ 20.824] (II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version matches driver. [19:17] Azelphur: how much RAM do those cards ahve? [19:17] MartijnVdS: 1GB [19:17] they arn't weak cards [19:18] No, but maybe they're too good? :) [19:18] and this is after a clean install + jockey? [19:20] MartijnVdS: this is an install that works direct from hdd :p [19:20] and yea, this is with jockey, tempted to try a clean install though [19:20] I'd file a bug [19:26] I'll try completely fresh first :P [19:47] Azelphur: got a dmesg off that box? [19:47] penguin42: http://paste.ubuntu.com/611531/ [19:48] Azelphur: Was your local install with teh server kernel or generic? [19:48] server [19:53] Azelphur: Is it a clash between the KMS stuff and commercial driver? the dmesg shows 1G video ram [19:53] I have no idea [19:54] I've not tried the commercial drivers for a while, but you might try disabling kms [19:55] I'mma give it a quick run with stock Ubuntu desktop [19:55] Azelphur: Ah there's an error in the dmesg [19:55] then it has no excuse to not work :) [19:55] oO, an error :o [19:56] Azelphur: Xorg:881 conflicting memory types c0000000-c1068000 uncached-minus<->write-combining reserve_memtype failed 0xc0000000-0xc1068000, track write-combining, req write-combining [fglrx:KCL_MEM_VM_MapRegion] *ERROR* remap_pfn_range failed [19:56] fun, that looks very relevant [19:57] Azelphur: Check for a bios update on the motherboard [19:58] will do if it persists with a stock install [19:59] it's also possible that grub doing the video mode switching is somehow getting something initialised that the netboot process isn't [20:00] penguin42: another fun idea :p [20:14] penguin42: think I found out part of the problem, my nfs clients can't set permissions on the server. [20:15] that's no doubt causing some breakage \o/ [20:15] Azelphur: Add no_root_squash to the export line on the server [20:16] penguin42: I already have that \o/ [20:16] hmph [20:16] /nfsroot *(rw,no_root_squash,async,insecure,no_subtree_check) [20:16] yeh that looks OK [20:17] but when I use cp -ax to the nfs share it spams "cp: failed to preserve ownership for : invalid argument [20:19] penguin42: sounds like switching to nfsv3 like you said would be a good idea :D [20:19] although I'm not sure on how to switch to it [20:23] awesome, my router password magically changed [20:23] gord: love it when that happens :D [20:23] its like it asking me to replace it [20:24] penguin42: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598588 this looks like me :D [20:24] * penguin42 goes [20:25] Azelphur: It could be NFSv4 ID mapping, it got clever - v3 and easier are pretty dumb [20:26] anyway, tv time [20:26] :) [20:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/662711 yay, this is exactly what I'm having \o/ [20:28] Ubuntu bug 662711 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "NFS user/group mapping not working in 10.10" [Undecided,New] [20:29] #openpandora [20:29] nope! I'm a stupid IRC newbie! [20:30] haha [20:31] Hello world, Just installed xchat client [20:31] hello may88_ [20:31] how do I get firebox to associate with xchat when I click on a link [20:31] hello AlanBell [20:33] hope someone else bids on the monitor I am winning on ebay at the moment [20:33] may88_, what happens when you click a link now? [20:33] AlanBell, stop going on ebay after you have had a few drinks ;) [20:34] I put £25 on three different monitors in the hope that I might win one [20:34] picked up two this evening, and there are 30 minutes before I win another [20:34] haha, oh dear [20:35] gord: dialogue box saying firefox doesn't know what to run for IRC. [20:35] AlanBell: what! isn't 25 GBP cheap? [20:35] may88_, is that what it actually says? can you screenshot it? [20:35] AlanBell: Are they LCD? What size/res? [20:36] nigelb: yeah, got one for £15 with some scratches, one £20 pretty much mint and the other is £21 at the moment [20:36] LCD 17 inch 1280x1024 [20:36] wow [20:36] VGA/DVI? [20:36] AlanBell: well, you can use it at events with an arm board connected :p [20:36] the ones I got today have VGA and DVI [20:36] just to display schedule or tweets or something [20:37] AlanBell, get another one, have them in a 2x2 config, create the super monitor. [20:37] i mean, in for a penny in for a pound [20:37] :) [20:37] Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (irc) isn't associated with any program. [20:37] and evidence shows you'll have a hard time selling the spares... [20:38] Firefox doesn't seem to allow you to add an association and I can't find anything under the System menu (yet) [20:38] ahh so the problem is you are clicking irc:// links [20:38] they should open in firefox okay [20:39] may88_: preferences, applications, find content type irc, use the action dropdown [20:39] irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/openpandora [20:39] indeed [20:39] but they don't [20:40] I don't have an IRC application listed under Prefs->applications [20:40] odd [20:41] I have, it is offering to open them in mibbit [20:41] i would guess its something that gets installed with the application, maybe xchat doesn't install one? [20:41] maybe it's the way I installed it. [20:42] just selected the package from synaptic PM. [20:43] Seem to be no option in xchat to associate itself either. [20:43] Is Xchat the best option for Ubuntu in your opinions? [20:44] Bitchx seems to popular but I could not find that in the repo [20:44] xchat isn't the default that we ship, i use it - but others prefer others, its down to taste really [20:45] if its not in the repo's you shouldn't use it without a very good reason (tm) [20:46] I know no different atm. Ignorance is bliss. [20:47] it is in .mozilla/firefox//mimeTypes.rdf [20:47] just need to suss how to hack the file association list... off to try a file manager [20:48] ^okay - I'll look there. Cheers [20:50] who broke paste.ubuntu.com?? [20:50] "PHP and other Web scripts are not allowed" [20:51] well what is the *point* of it if you can't paste useful stuff! [20:51] may88_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/611553/ [20:52] that is it, but without at the top because paste.ubuntu.com is being silly [20:52] line 19 is the irc association [20:54] thanks as I don't speak XML fluently. :p [21:05] http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320696483611 I am full of win [21:07] eww 1280x1024 [21:08] better than 1024x768 [21:08] debateable ☺ [21:10] well I now have 4 17 inch monitors for my kids [21:10] haha [21:10] and 3 kids [21:10] so 1.333333333 monitors each? [21:11] and one of them has a laptop anyhow that doesn't need a monitor [21:11] one can go to mum & dad, they have a 15 inch 1024x768 at the moment [21:12] hmm, I'll buy one off you [21:12] save you wasting [21:12] if you want [21:13] * dutchie looks at 23" sat in corner waiting for a suitable computer [21:13] I might be able to rearrange things in a useful way [21:13] ok, well if you have one spare, let me know [21:13] actually I like having a 4:3 monitor to use on the output of my projector [21:15] I will keep the £15 one with the bad scratches for that I think [21:16] * popey notes 1280x1024 isnt 4:3 ☺ [21:16] its 5:4 [21:16] which is why it sucks [21:16] you could leave black bars [21:16] like TVs do [21:21] hmm, interesting [21:21] I will try one through the projector and see what happens [21:25] (hence why I said eww 1280x1024 in the first place) [21:29] works just fine [21:29] 1024x768 fills the screen, guess the aspect ratio is slightly wrong when it does that [21:30] yeah, you get oblong pixels [21:30] good enough for that purpose [21:36] hrm, if you use apt-cache but upgrade a bunch of stuff at the same time, do they all pull the same cached content or does the cache only kick in once a file has been downloaded once [21:41] This bloke has had too much time on his hands http://www.peaceman.de/blog/index.php/lego-technic-super-8-movie-projector Now what did I do with my lego [21:46] DJones: That's great - I've just sent that link to my 10yr old Lego mad son. But I had to explain what a projector was too... [21:47] TheOpenSourcerer: Heh, I wondered what would prompt somebody to think of building anything like that [21:47] * TheOpenSourcerer goes in search of some strong liquor to take to bed as he continues "The girl who kicked the Hornet's nest" [22:20] AlanBell: thanks for your help. Not working but errors differently. Giving up for now. [22:39] yzom [23:24] * popey wonders what JamesTait is doing in Argentina