| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 08:47 |
|---|---|---|
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 08:47 | |
| Kilos | morning superfly inetpro nuvolari and all ya others | 08:48 |
| superfly | morning oom Kilos | 08:49 |
| Kilos | hey superfly i have kubuntu on a 6g drive. looks very interesting but lotsa learning to setup and find everything | 08:50 |
| superfly | Kilos: yeah, it's fairly different to Ubuntu, especially after the switch to Unity | 08:50 |
| Kilos | maybe if i can get hold of inetpro i can get his /var/cache/apt/archives | 08:50 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 08:51 |
| Kilos | that should save me the large updates and downloads hey? | 08:51 |
| Kilos | Maaz, rusks please | 08:52 |
| Maaz | Sorry Kilos I only have Romany Creams today | 08:52 |
| superfly | mostly | 08:52 |
| Kilos | Maaz, romany creams please | 08:52 |
| Maaz | Only 2 Kilos Otherwise no one else gets any | 08:52 |
| Kilos | well i will see if i get him here today and try arrange something with him | 08:53 |
| Kilos | how are you and the family superfly | 08:53 |
| Kilos | its cold here in ptown | 08:54 |
| Kilos | oh and ians modem works with natty | 08:56 |
| superfly | ja, it's cold here too | 08:56 |
| superfly | ja, I figured it would | 08:56 |
| Kilos | the new kubuntu nm works great | 09:00 |
| superfly | yeah | 09:09 |
| Morganvd | morning all | 10:09 |
| n8wulf | good morning ppl | 10:15 |
| Kilos | hi n8wulf | 10:16 |
| n8wulf | I'm trying the 'can't beat them join them' thing with Unity | 10:16 |
| Morganvd | lol | 10:16 |
| Morganvd | unity is not that bad if you use it for a while | 10:17 |
| Morganvd | and use the api for some things | 10:17 |
| nuvolari | morning oom Kilos | 10:17 |
| Morganvd | i got my ssh menu back with unity | 10:17 |
| Kilos | eish | 10:17 |
| Kilos | hi nuvolari | 10:17 |
| Morganvd | just in a diffrent place | 10:17 |
| Kilos | just heard boet was attacked at home last night. in hospital in critical state | 10:18 |
| Kilos | hi Morganvd | 10:18 |
| n8wulf | I've had an interesting journey with Ubuntu thus far... Started with Mint,went Ultimate edition for about a year, then tried ZorinOS, then PinguyOS... | 10:18 |
| nuvolari | :/ | 10:18 |
| nuvolari | my condolences oom | 10:18 |
| Kilos | ty | 10:19 |
| Morganvd | sorry to hear that Kilos | 10:19 |
| nuvolari | hey n8wulf | 10:19 |
| Morganvd | hope he gets well soon | 10:19 |
| Kilos | thanks guys | 10:20 |
| nuvolari | n8wulf: what do you mean you can't beat them? | 10:20 |
| n8wulf | and now I got tired with the Background little Wallpaper changers and stuff hogging resources, so now I'm gonna try Virgin Install plus my own Custom Installs. | 10:20 |
| n8wulf | All the serious Nix users end up going Virgin Install and doing the Mods themselves | 10:20 |
| n8wulf | so seeing as I've been using Ubuntu Flavs for close to 3 years, it's time to try flying on my own | 10:21 |
| Morganvd | you mean linux from scratch? | 10:22 |
| Morganvd | or just ubuntu cli with your own mods | 10:22 |
| n8wulf | O no!!!... No I'm too lazy | 10:22 |
| n8wulf | so if I say Virgin I mean an original 11.04 install | 10:22 |
| n8wulf | then installing and theme-ing as I see fit | 10:23 |
| Morganvd | lol k | 10:23 |
| n8wulf | I've done the Conky and AWN and Modding thing enough to start from scratch (not Linux from Scratch ) | 10:24 |
| n8wulf | but I do have a side project with Linux from Scratch we are busy with | 10:24 |
| n8wulf | ppl, how do I add a 'auto join a channel' in Empathy? | 10:25 |
| Morganvd | favourites | 10:25 |
| Morganvd | i use weechat so cant tell you how again with the irc plugin | 10:25 |
| n8wulf | I come from Pidgin | 10:26 |
| * nlsthzn waves | 10:26 | |
| n8wulf | thanx for the 'Favs' hint | 10:27 |
| n8wulf | brb | 10:27 |
| n8wulf | anyone here ever seen www.live-office.net ? | 10:31 |
| n8wulf | guess not | 10:35 |
| Morganvd | nope soz | 10:37 |
| nuvolari | Morganvd: ^5 @ weechat | 10:38 |
| nuvolari | lo nlsthzn | 10:38 |
| nuvolari | who needs a live-office when you have vi? | 10:39 |
| nuvolari | :P | 10:39 |
| Morganvd | nuvolari: i love weechat ever since i tried it | 10:41 |
| Morganvd | it never fails i never lag and its made me more effective | 10:41 |
| Morganvd | im still learning vi | 10:41 |
| nuvolari | Morganvd: some people prefer irssi or bitchx, but I don't fancy either | 10:42 |
| nlsthzn | nuvolari: hi... I use nano (when and if needed :p) | 10:42 |
| nuvolari | I might try irssi again one day for it's proxy features | 10:42 |
| nuvolari | nlsthzn: so you're afraid of the cli? :P | 10:43 |
| Morganvd | i still want to do a gentoo system i hear it very fast | 10:43 |
| Morganvd | or linux from scratch | 10:43 |
| nlsthzn | nuvolari: not afraid, but careful :p | 10:43 |
| Morganvd | rofl | 10:43 |
| nuvolari | Morganvd: well, it depends on what needs to be fast :P | 10:44 |
| nuvolari | Ubuntu came a long way and it's doing pretty well | 10:44 |
| superfly | Morganvd: these days a custom Gentoo build is no faster than a normal Ubuntu install | 10:44 |
| nuvolari | I had gentoo on my netbook for about a month, but had no advantages over ubuntu (from my experience) | 10:45 |
| nuvolari | ye, what superfly said ;P | 10:45 |
| Morganvd | well i can say im using crunchbang on my netbook and its 1000% faster than 11.04 on my netbook | 10:48 |
| n8wulf | on the crucnhbang topic | 10:49 |
| n8wulf | typo... lol | 10:49 |
| n8wulf | anyway, I'm trying to find a distro to use on old P2 pc's with 32mb ram maximum... any ideas? Crunchbang, CruncEEE or Puppie? | 10:50 |
| nuvolari | I think the only distro that I would think of trying out now (make it 2) will be ArchLinux and Fedora | 10:50 |
| n8wulf | I cant find old Ubuntu's like 6.04 anywhere | 10:50 |
| Morganvd | well eather puppy or crunchbang | 10:50 |
| nuvolari | n8wulf: DSL? | 10:51 |
| n8wulf | Eish | 10:51 |
| n8wulf | heard alot of Anti DSL comments | 10:51 |
| nuvolari | oh | 10:52 |
| Morganvd | i tried dsl a few weeks ago | 10:52 |
| nuvolari | not up to date | 10:52 |
| Morganvd | preffer puppy to it | 10:52 |
| n8wulf | but i suppose the proof is in the Pudding | 10:52 |
| n8wulf | Morganvd: Puppy vs Crunchbang experiences? | 10:52 |
| Morganvd | i have 2 p3 laptops here at home not doing much so i downloaded a children version of puppy | 10:53 |
| Morganvd | on my netbook crunchbang runs like a dream | 10:53 |
| n8wulf | thats the Big one with all the games, right? | 10:53 |
| Morganvd | on my little laptops puppy is better for my eed | 10:53 |
| Morganvd | no its hansam something | 10:53 |
| n8wulf | k, so the kiddies one, usual puppy + games? | 10:54 |
| n8wulf | hdd size needed? any idea/ | 10:54 |
| n8wulf | ? | 10:54 |
| n8wulf | cause I've got 2Gb hdd's here | 10:54 |
| Morganvd | 500mg | 10:54 |
| n8wulf | Naas | 10:55 |
| n8wulf | did you try the Hansamben flavour? | 10:55 |
| Morganvd | thats the one i have for them | 10:56 |
| Morganvd | my twins are 2 | 10:56 |
| n8wulf | cool, looking at a review now | 10:57 |
| Morganvd | the others have big machines all use ubuntu | 10:57 |
| n8wulf | my eldest is 3 now... but the PCs are for Primary School use | 10:57 |
| n8wulf | so if it works, I'll rig Amore as well | 10:57 |
| Morganvd | 11 year old has a quad core with ubuntu natty | 10:58 |
| n8wulf | Hmm... Lucky No 11 | 10:58 |
| Morganvd | 9 year old has a duel core with natty made it pink as she is my only little girl | 10:58 |
| n8wulf | cool | 10:58 |
| n8wulf | sure she's luvin it | 10:58 |
| Morganvd | 3 year old has a duel core running qumo | 10:58 |
| n8wulf | qumo? | 10:58 |
| Morganvd | and the twins have the lappies p3's with han sam be | 10:59 |
| Morganvd | hansamben | 10:59 |
| Morganvd | qumo is a ubuntu kids distro | 10:59 |
| Morganvd | http://www.qimo4kids.com/ | 11:00 |
| Morganvd | soz its qimo | 11:00 |
| n8wulf | thank you, will check that one quick too | 11:00 |
| n8wulf | dual core for the Qimo because it needs it, or because you have a lot of "PassMeDowns"? | 11:02 |
| n8wulf | 'cause just tell me where the queue ends, I'll join in at the back | 11:02 |
| nuvolari | n8wulf: where are you from? | 11:07 |
| Kilos | boet ok. just cracked ribs and traumatised but at least he home | 11:13 |
| n8wulf | good to hear... so don't make any jokes in front of him, will leave him with Side Splitting Laughter, literally | 11:15 |
| Kilos | face bashed up from being pistol whipped as well and lotsa lumps on head | 11:17 |
| n8wulf | Morganvd , you still there? | 11:17 |
| n8wulf | OMG!!! | 11:18 |
| Kilos | sigh | 11:18 |
| n8wulf | thats really not nice | 11:18 |
| n8wulf | I got Hijacked a cpl yrs ago, luckily got out without a scratch | 11:18 |
| Kilos | no but at least he is alive | 11:18 |
| Kilos | wow | 11:19 |
| Kilos | tough in africa hey | 11:19 |
| n8wulf | jip... so now he's a member of the Seriously Racist Group? | 11:19 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:20 |
| n8wulf | say no more | 11:20 |
| Kilos | thanks for letting me share guys | 11:20 |
| n8wulf | did they rob you of anything? | 11:20 |
| Kilos | his top of the range hp laptop and blackberry and cash | 11:21 |
| n8wulf | as you said, I've seen ppl get shot for less, so he's fortunate | 11:21 |
| Kilos | so all his cvs and contacts gone | 11:21 |
| n8wulf | does he use Ubuntu? | 11:22 |
| Kilos | he been looking for work for last 3 months | 11:22 |
| Kilos | but most are for overseas places like china | 11:22 |
| Kilos | no he stuck with win 7 | 11:22 |
| n8wulf | get him Dropbox for Win$ next time around | 11:22 |
| Kilos | he says too much to learn something new | 11:22 |
| n8wulf | what ever | 11:23 |
| n8wulf | Win7 has higher learning curve than Ubuntu at this point of the race | 11:23 |
| n8wulf | he had a Blackberry... well, Unity is taking Ubuntu to the Smartphone level in interfaces | 11:24 |
| n8wulf | so if he can use his BB, he can Unity | 11:24 |
| Kilos | i will try to get him on it. but he is not one that can use cli and stuff like here | 11:27 |
| Kilos | he stuck on put in cd and install | 11:27 |
| n8wulf | well, 99% of all installs can happen in Synaptic, Software Centre and via .deb so ppl can really stop worrying about cli | 11:34 |
| Morganvd | n8wulf: sorry had to put the kids down to sleep | 11:34 |
| n8wulf | that time already? | 11:35 |
| n8wulf | mine only does the nap thing at 2pm | 11:35 |
| Morganvd | mid afternoon nap | 11:35 |
| n8wulf | cool, take a deep breath | 11:35 |
| n8wulf | relax | 11:35 |
| n8wulf | it's Sunday afternoon | 11:35 |
| Morganvd | we find 12 works better then they dont stay awake till 22h00 | 11:35 |
| n8wulf | Oh is that why?!! | 11:36 |
| n8wulf | ;-d | 11:36 |
| n8wulf | ;-b | 11:36 |
| Morganvd | yip all my kids pass out at 8h00 | 11:36 |
| Morganvd | 20h00 | 11:36 |
| n8wulf | yeah, but my wife is pregs already, so what will we do after that at the moment? | 11:36 |
| Morganvd | well those that did not know what i was talking about | 11:37 |
| Morganvd | most parnets dont realize that they need some time | 11:37 |
| Morganvd | after 8 its time for me and mommy to chat and things | 11:37 |
| n8wulf | do you perhaps pls have a direct download link to the HanSamBen you are using, I don't see myself working through 19 pgs of Forums, pls? | 11:38 |
| Morganvd | there was someone who updated it to a newer version of puppy | 11:39 |
| Morganvd | will get you the link now | 11:39 |
| n8wulf | thank you | 11:39 |
| n8wulf | meantime, anybody know if there's a way to set the sidebar in Unity to not disappear, i.e. autohide? | 11:40 |
| Morganvd | yeah compize | 11:43 |
| Morganvd | compiz* | 11:43 |
| Morganvd | install the compiz-manager | 11:44 |
| n8wulf | oh, that was on my ToDo list | 11:44 |
| n8wulf | found it, thanx | 11:50 |
| n8wulf | and then I saw I can just press the 'Super' key when I need it to show | 11:50 |
| n8wulf | which is better | 11:50 |
| Morganvd | yeah i have a nice todo list after a natty install will get it for you now | 11:57 |
| Morganvd | http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html | 11:57 |
| n8wulf | oh my goodness | 11:58 |
| n8wulf | thanx for sharing | 11:58 |
| n8wulf | will delicious it | 11:58 |
| n8wulf | Morganvd, any news on the HanSamBen link pls? | 12:08 |
| Morganvd | http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=49124&sid=79ed546e3de9aff168e5b210449b6d6e | 12:14 |
| Morganvd | i used the retro one | 12:15 |
| n8wulf | ty, I was on this one: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41454&start=255 | 12:15 |
| n8wulf | way too much reading | 12:16 |
| n8wulf | will use retro as well due to HW specs | 12:16 |
| n8wulf | here's another nice ToDo for Unity: | 12:33 |
| n8wulf | http://soluitionpoint.com/news/8-useful-ubuntu-unity-quicklists/ | 12:33 |
| Morganvd | i was gonna telling you about it | 12:33 |
| Morganvd | i use the ssh menu one and the libre office one | 12:33 |
| n8wulf | lol | 12:33 |
| Morganvd | alot | 12:33 |
| n8wulf | will use them as well, I do a lot of remote Gui support, VNC (remmina) so will add that as well if possible | 12:34 |
| n8wulf | Naas... i like the Custom cmds for Terminal as well | 12:35 |
| n8wulf | I've got a bunch of scripts I run a lot, will Point&Click them | 12:35 |
| n8wulf | do you know of a Quick way to restart Unity? I kinda made it need Pampers | 12:38 |
| n8wulf | and I don't want to logout/in at the mo | 12:38 |
| Morganvd | unity --restart | 12:39 |
| n8wulf | nope ... no such thing. but just 'unity' does the trick though | 12:43 |
| Kerbero | or --reset | 12:43 |
| n8wulf | will throw it back to defaults yes, thanx | 12:43 |
| Kerbero | just running unity on its own will spawn another session on top of the old one | 12:44 |
| n8wulf | Dawg | 12:44 |
| n8wulf | ok, so I will do the Log Out thing quick | 12:44 |
| Kerbero | just unity --reset | 12:45 |
| Kerbero | it fixes everything | 12:45 |
| n8wulf | even the 2nd instance I opened? | 12:45 |
| n8wulf | started I mean | 12:45 |
| Kerbero | it should | 12:45 |
| Kerbero | and i guess you know you should run these commands from the run dialog | 12:46 |
| n8wulf | neat trick I learned yesterday I gotta share with you | 12:46 |
| Kerbero | o | 12:46 |
| * Kerbero listens | 12:47 | |
| Morganvd | soz i meant reset | 12:47 |
| n8wulf | if u got a Granadella that went all dry and looks like a Rosyntjie, just put it in a Glass of water for an hour or so | 12:47 |
| n8wulf | voila! nice and juicy again | 12:48 |
| Kerbero | haha | 12:48 |
| Kerbero | nice | 12:48 |
| n8wulf | so guess what's for lunch... | 12:48 |
| n8wulf | any of you know what a Diesel (the drink) is? | 12:53 |
| n8wulf | beer shandy but with Coke instead of sprite... dis lekker | 12:56 |
| n8wulf | and if you let the glass stand for a while it starts looking like Diesel, for real | 12:56 |
| superfly | http://twitpic.com/5118dw | 12:57 |
| n8wulf | that is Soooooo sweet | 12:59 |
| Morganvd | i really hate overlaying scroll bars | 14:05 |
| n8wulf | me thinks I'm gonna hate the stupid sidebar in Unity | 14:24 |
| n8wulf | if I set it on AutoHide, it just never Unhides | 14:24 |
| Morganvd | side bar i can handle | 14:24 |
| Morganvd | its dam overlaying scrollbars breaking some of the other apps | 14:25 |
| n8wulf | if I set it to the default, I can't convince it to show unless I press the 'Super' key | 14:25 |
| n8wulf | I saw u mentioned earlier. and the scrollbar is not really Laptop Touchpad friendly either | 14:25 |
| n8wulf | and Empathy is also reaaally quirky | 14:26 |
| n8wulf | I had to reboot after my Unity completely crashed, no default Sign in again to my IRC accounts... and still no Favourite Channels | 14:27 |
| n8wulf | if i click on Conversation at the top, Fav Chat Room for this channel is selected | 14:28 |
| Morganvd | yeah | 14:28 |
| Morganvd | and our local isp have found out caching | 14:28 |
| n8wulf | but still not showing in the Empathy IM clients list. Why? what's the caching doing? | 14:29 |
| Morganvd | now they caching repos with broken packages | 14:30 |
| Morganvd | i know its the isp | 14:30 |
| n8wulf | rofl | 14:30 |
| Morganvd | becuase when i log inwith my 3G the same repo works | 14:30 |
| n8wulf | suppose they've got caching on, but it's only caching parts of the files | 14:31 |
| n8wulf | so the cahce size is set too small | 14:31 |
| n8wulf | and set to cache ALL traffic I suppose | 14:31 |
| n8wulf | any idea how to get Maximised windows to not overlap the Unity sidebar? | 14:32 |
| n8wulf | if I set the sidebar to permanent on? | 14:33 |
| Morganvd | i have it on perma on but it goes behind the window in max window mode | 14:33 |
| n8wulf | see, there in lies the problem | 14:34 |
| Morganvd | yip | 14:36 |
| Morganvd | but i cannot get my head around gnome 3 either | 14:37 |
| n8wulf | I officially just sat and Hyper Ventilated out of frustration. the freakin sidebar F*&^%$#$%^& | 14:38 |
| n8wulf | and now I resorted to giggles | 14:38 |
| Morganvd | giggles? | 14:39 |
| n8wulf | jip, also frustration | 14:41 |
| n8wulf | ok, so I figured if I set the sidebar to Dodge Active windows only, then it's currently more accessible | 14:41 |
| n8wulf | Morganvd: do u currently have Unity running? | 15:07 |
| n8wulf | my sidebar does not behave like this: http://images.sageek.co.za/rvw/unity8.png | 15:08 |
| n8wulf | I don't have any available MouseOver events (subMenus) that pop up | 15:09 |
| n8wulf | so, it turns out in order to have this: http://i.imgur.com/4eB1O.png when my Windows are maximized, I need a Bug as mentioned here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/31152/maximized-windows-on-unity-start-without-covering-the-sidebar-how-can-i-do-that | 15:13 |
| n8wulf | sleeping or watching series? | 15:28 |
| nuvolari | n8wulf: sleeping | 16:49 |
| nuvolari | was sleeping :P | 16:49 |
| Wolfeyes | hey everyone | 18:21 |
| Wolfeyes | To upgrade from cd (from Maverick to Natty) must I boot from cd? | 18:22 |
| Kerbero | i don't think so | 18:23 |
| Kerbero | what happens if you just insert the cd while you are in ubuntu | 18:24 |
| Wolfeyes | You here or busy superfly ? | 18:24 |
| superfly | hi Wolfeyes | 18:24 |
| Wolfeyes | Nothing. It mounts Kerbero . | 18:24 |
| Wolfeyes | Hey superfly | 18:24 |
| superfly | Wolfeyes: you must *not* boot into the CD | 18:25 |
| Wolfeyes | Ok | 18:25 |
| superfly | mount the CD | 18:25 |
| Wolfeyes | Ok | 18:25 |
| superfly | then run the the cdromupgrade script in the root of the CD | 18:25 |
| superfly | you need to run it as root, and using the full path of the script | 18:26 |
| superfly | so if your CD is mounted at /media/cdrom you need to run "sudo /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" | 18:26 |
| Wolfeyes | Ok so when you insert it, and it shows on your desktop, it mounts? You mean like that? | 18:26 |
| superfly | Wolfeyes: Ubuntu or Kubuntu? | 18:27 |
| Wolfeyes | Kubuntu | 18:27 |
| superfly | when the device manager pops up, click on the CD and then click on "open with Dolphin" | 18:27 |
| Wolfeyes | No device manager opened! | 18:28 |
| Wolfeyes | it is the Kubuntu alternate, is this correct? | 18:29 |
| superfly | Wolfeyes: the little thing that slides up on the bottom right hand side of your screen? | 18:29 |
| Wolfeyes | Ok hold on, I do not have that, I am in Maverick ubuntu right now, superfly | 18:30 |
| superfly | Wolfeyes: I asked youi f you were in Ubuntu or Kubuntu, and you said Kubuntu! | 18:31 |
| Wolfeyes | oh sorry, misread, i thought you meant upgrading too. | 18:31 |
| superfly | Wolfeyes: using the alternate CD you pretty much have to upgrade Ubuntu to Ubuntu | 18:32 |
| Wolfeyes | I am using UBuntu Maverick and want to upgrade to Kubuntu Natty superfly | 18:32 |
| superfly | you can upgrade Ubuntu to Kubuntu, but the majority of the applications on each of the CDs are different | 18:32 |
| superfly | I'm not 100% sure if you can do that with the alternate CD via the upgrade script | 18:33 |
| Wolfeyes | Another one then? | 18:33 |
| superfly | the best would be upgrading from Ubuntu to Ubuntu | 18:33 |
| Wolfeyes | Ok | 18:33 |
| superfly | what you *could* possibly do is mount the CD | 18:33 |
| superfly | then add it to your sources.list file using the "apt-cdrom" command | 18:34 |
| Wolfeyes | ok | 18:34 |
| superfly | then "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop", followed by "sudo apt-get update" | 18:35 |
| Wolfeyes | When you say mount, you mean see it mounted it on the desktop or mount it in another place? | 18:35 |
| superfly | and then "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" | 18:35 |
| superfly | when I say mount, I mean you most likely need to have opened it in nautilus first | 18:35 |
| Wolfeyes | Ok so when you double click on it, it opens, is this what you call Nautilus superfly ? Sorry I haven't had the computer for ages. Forgotten a lot. | 18:39 |
| superfly | nautilus is the file manager in Ubuntu, dolphin is the file manager in Kubuntu | 18:41 |
| Wolfeyes | ok | 18:42 |
| Wolfeyes | Then I have Nautilus open, and can see all the folders in the cd superfly . Which cd should be in? Kubuntu normal or Kubuntu Alternate? superfly . Ok Kilos suggested somethign now, would it not be better to make an install next to it to see if it works? I am having lots of problems with this Gigabyte mb. | 18:46 |
| superfly | the alternate | 18:47 |
| superfly | if you have the space, sure go ahead | 18:47 |
| Wolfeyes | ok thank you, let me try that first. | 18:47 |
| Wolfeyes | be back in a bit | 18:47 |
| Wolfeyes | thank you superfly | 18:47 |
| Wolfeyes | I chat to you from Kilo's pc. | 18:48 |
| Symmetria | *SIGH* | 18:55 |
| * Symmetria spies problems on mirror.ac.za | 18:55 | |
| nuvolari | too much smoking Symmetria ? | 18:55 |
| nuvolari | :P | 18:55 |
| nuvolari | lo oom Kilos | 18:55 |
| Kilos | lo nuvolari | 18:56 |
| Kilos | hi guys | 18:56 |
| Symmetria | nuvolari GAH, musta been a faulty batch of disks in one of the sans | 18:56 |
| Symmetria | we just blew 3 x 2TB disks in the same san within 40 minutes of each other | 18:57 |
| Kilos | got ians modem here so he can get help with kubuntu alongside installation | 18:57 |
| Symmetria | thank god I have a copy of almost everything on that san, so now its just a matter of synching the backup and then bringing it back up | 18:57 |
| Symmetria | heh, dunno how outta sync the backup is though, its a 22 TB backup copy | 18:57 |
| * nuvolari wipes away a tear | 18:59 | |
| Kilos | hehe his pc rattles on an off like an old skedonk | 18:59 |
| nuvolari | that amount of disk space sounds beautiful | 18:59 |
| Kerbero | hehe | 18:59 |
| nuvolari | lol Kilos | 19:00 |
| nuvolari | Kilos: but it's still working eh oom? | 19:00 |
| Kilos | so weird and its a sata drive as well | 19:00 |
| Kilos | yeah it works | 19:00 |
| Kilos | is there a difference in install speeds with kubuntu and ubuntu | 19:02 |
| Kilos | kubuntu seems kinda slow with the install or am i imagining it | 19:02 |
| Kilos | still havent even got to where we wanna install it to | 19:04 |
| Kilos | im sure this gigabyte thing runs in reverse gear all the time | 19:06 |
| superfly | Kilos: i doubt there's much of a diference | 19:13 |
| superfly | Kilos: did you try using the alternate cd, it's got an old-style installer, but it works in more cases than the fancy GUI one | 19:14 |
| Kilos | using kubuntu but slow as mollasses and seems to not see 100g of partition somewhere | 19:23 |
| Kilos | can one actually install to /dev/sda5 | 19:24 |
| Kilos | will it just at a link to the bootloader | 19:24 |
| Kilos | if only there wasnt xp and mavericki already here things would be simpler | 19:26 |
| Kilos | we trying to use sda5 with /root//boot /home partitions in in but i dunno whats gonna happen. we will see | 19:45 |
| Kilos | said the blind man | 19:45 |
| Symmetria | mirror.ac.za should be stable again in a coupla hours | 19:53 |
| Symmetria | I'm just bringing certain things back into sync on diskspace5 and then will deactivate diskspace4 and swing everything onto there | 19:53 |
| Symmetria | and then figure out what the hell is wrong with diskspace4 | 19:54 |
| Symmetria | probably only have 100gig or so that I need to sync | 19:54 |
| superfly | Kilos: are you in the live CD? | 20:06 |
| Kilos | yip. we started again with my cd rom | 20:07 |
| Kilos | think his dvdrom faulty as well | 20:07 |
| superfly | OK, like I said earlier, the Alternate CD's installer is not pretty, but usually works better than the Live CD's installer | 20:08 |
| Kilos | will try that if we dont win now ty. cdrom faster than his dvdrom | 20:09 |
| superfly | ok, cool | 20:09 |
| Symmetria | heh, thank god for bandwidth | 20:10 |
| Symmetria | I am using 1.2gigabit/second fixing mirror.ac.za LOL | 20:10 |
| Kilos | eish Symmetria | 20:11 |
| Morganvd | Symmetria: your not with IS are you | 20:12 |
| Symmetria | Morganvd no, IS doesnt have that kinda spare bandwidth :) we do | 20:12 |
| Morganvd | no im asking as it seems all the uncapped accoutns they ttrying to cache the repos | 20:12 |
| Morganvd | and they breakin git | 20:12 |
| Symmetria | *HRM* they are caching the ubuntu repos? | 20:12 |
| Morganvd | yeah | 20:13 |
| Symmetria | thats kinda... messed up since its all local | 20:13 |
| Symmetria | I can speak to someone in the morning about that if you want | 20:13 |
| Morganvd | i keep getting stupid file hash missmatch | 20:13 |
| Symmetria | email me a reminder please, aa@tenet.ac.za | 20:13 |
| Morganvd | but if i plug in my 3g same repo no problme | 20:13 |
| Symmetria | which repo are you using btw? | 20:13 |
| Morganvd | za.archive | 20:14 |
| Symmetria | they will automatically cache almost anything international, za.archive though should not be cached | 20:14 |
| Morganvd | but once its broken package | 20:14 |
| Morganvd | it does not matter where i try download it from DSL | 20:14 |
| Symmetria | email me a reminder and I'll take it up with them | 20:14 |
| Morganvd | dont have your mail addy | 20:14 |
| Symmetria | its senseless them caching mirror.ac.za since mirror.ac.za = via peering with them and there is more capacity than god there | 20:14 |
| Symmetria | aa@tenet.ac.za :) | 20:14 |
| superfly | Morganvd, Symmetria: yeah, I had the same a few weeks ago | 20:15 |
| Morganvd | i tried talking to lantic about it | 20:15 |
| Morganvd | but they useless | 20:15 |
| superfly | one of their transparent proxies are caching things | 20:15 |
| Morganvd | im thining of switching to gamco | 20:15 |
| Symmetria | heh, I will take it up with IS tomorrow | 20:15 |
| Symmetria | shouldnt be a huge issue to get resolved | 20:15 |
| Morganvd | mine was stand IDE | 20:15 |
| Morganvd | stani* | 20:16 |
| superfly | mine was perl-modules | 20:16 |
| Symmetria | right now my major concern is getting mirror.ac.za back stable again, and this stupid sync is taking forever | 20:16 |
| Morganvd | one package prev to that was perl-module | 20:16 |
| Symmetria | but heh, not really suprised its taking a while, 11 terabytes, 10+ million files to check | 20:16 |
| superfly | I asked in #ubuntu-devel and they gave me another link to try... cause even if I went to de.archive or us.archive, I'd get the same corrupted file | 20:16 |
| Morganvd | i even get it off siax | 20:17 |
| Morganvd | it seems the package gets cached | 20:17 |
| Morganvd | so it keeps pulling of the prixy no matter where you pull it from | 20:18 |
| Symmetria | Morganvd you might wanna try ftp'ing the file down and seeing what comes down | 20:18 |
| Symmetria | or if you can, set apt-get to use ftp rather than http | 20:18 |
| Symmetria | they wont trans-proxy ftp | 20:18 |
| Morganvd | thanks will try that | 20:20 |
| Morganvd | i just plugged in my 3G and it pulled down no problem | 20:20 |
| Symmetria | wow, chelsea fired their manager LOL | 20:20 |
| Morganvd | freaking stupid though | 20:20 |
| Kilos | superfly, kubuntu in. I go off now so we can put modem in on his pc and get updates | 20:54 |
| Kilos | night all sleep tight | 20:55 |
| superfly | Kilos: cool | 20:55 |
| Kilos | and warm | 20:55 |
| superfly | night night | 20:55 |
| Kilos | thanks for the help superfly \ | 20:55 |
| superfly | nnnp | 20:57 |
| superfly | *np | 20:57 |
| Kilos | superfly, where do we find the terminal please | 21:28 |
| superfly | Kilos: it's called Konsole | 21:28 |
| superfly | whne you open the menu, just type in "Konsole" and it'll find it | 21:29 |
| * superfly heads off to bed | 21:29 | |
| Kilos | um what and where is the menu superfly | 21:29 |
| Kilos | sorry | 21:29 |
| superfly | the blue K on the bottom left | 21:30 |
| Kilos | ty . have a good sleep | 21:32 |
| Symmetria | ok mirror.ac.za all back online | 23:25 |
| Kerbero | well done | 23:45 |
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