[08:20] <dpm> morning all
[08:22] <braiam> morning dpm
[08:33] <dpm> good morning braiam :)
[10:08] <gtriderxc> can anybody explain me what does that string mean? No fontconfig-voodoo configuration found for the current LANGUAGE
[10:11] <gtriderxc> "“language-selector” source package
[10:11] <gtriderxc> Template “language-selector”
[10:11] <gtriderxc> "
[10:13] <trijntje> I would guess that there is no "fontconfig-voodoo configuration" present for the current language, but maybe i'm not understanding the question
[10:13] <yurchor> Some languages need specific fonts. Fontconfig can be tweeked the way that allows usage of specific fonts for LANGUAGE (not all fonts contain needed symbols).
[10:14] <yurchor> If such a magick cannot be found, you will see the message.
[10:29] <gtriderxc> ok now it is clearer but let me ask one more question: what is fontconfig-voodoo?
[10:31] <yurchor> http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/169/improve-your-chinese-viewing/
[10:32] <yurchor> It is just a script needed to switch the fonts.
[10:34] <gtriderxc> thanx
[10:50] <gtriderxc> and does anyone know something about "Factory for notification area" for GNOME?
[10:52] <gtriderxc> someone suggested it as a developing tool
[10:53] <gtriderxc> can't google it out
[10:56] <yurchor> It something like server part of any applet. There are UI and server (factory) parts.
[11:00] <gtriderxc> ok
[11:01] <yurchor> Or may be better to say it's a "container", something where applets do their work.
[11:08] <dpm> so we're deploying the translations portal, and it needs to be configured (but it will not be announced until we've done that and updated the theme). Is anyone around who'd want to help with some testing? It should only take a few minutes
[11:09] <dpm> if so, just ping me and we'll have a chat on how to do it, thanks!
[13:04] <gtriderxc> dpm I can helpYou testing
[13:04] <dpm> gtriderxc, that's fine, I've just managed to test it, but thanks anyway!
[15:42] <RawChid> Hey dpm, are you there?
[15:42] <dpm> hey RawChid
[15:42] <RawChid> I've checked out the code of ul10n-tools and gave it a look
[15:42] <RawChid> You said somethin about plural search..
[15:43] <RawChid> I'm willing to help, but can you give me more pointers about the wishes.. It's all vague to me at the moment.
[15:44] <RawChid> Maybe later if you need some time for it
[15:50] <dpm> RawChid, ah, that was about the ul10n-search tool. What it does is to search for a given pattern in all translations installed in the system. It searches all the msgid or msgstr of all the .mo files, but until now it did not search in the msgid_plural and msgstr plurals. However, this weekend I did a bit of hacking and I implemented it. Now that you've reminded me I've just committed it: https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/+junk/ul10n-tools
[15:50] <RawChid> Ok, just "pull"-ed it now
[15:52] <dpm> ah, cool. Yeah, it's very much work in progress, but the ul10n-search tool should already have all the functionality implemented. Run ./bin/ul10n-search --help to see what it does. if you see anything that needs improving, feel free to chip in and submit a branch!
[15:52] <andrejz> dpm it this script similar to "search ubuntu translations" one?
[15:53] <andrejz> *is
[15:53] <dpm> andrejz, yeah, but much faster! :)
[15:53] <andrejz> cool
[15:53] <andrejz> i will try it out
[15:54] <dpm> andrejz, yeah, feel free to give me any feedback on how it worked for you. As I say, this is alpha software, and I won't announce it until it's more or less stable and can be installed from a package in a PPA
[15:54] <RawChid> dpm, what about a INSTALL.txt or something. Because now I have to guess which packages are required. Or is that something that every Ubuntu Dev knows...
[15:54] <andrejz> dpm, i started ordering translation templates in natty - is this form ok for laucnhpad developers ? - https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak3RvMevQNNMdGpQU1BjS1dmQ2tybkVzSVVaZU1LdXc&hl=en_US&authkey=CLa8gPgB
[15:55] <RawChid> I program for years now, but I'm not a seasoned Python dev :P
[15:56] <RawChid> I think I first need to run setup.py?
[15:56] <dpm> RawChid, yeah, that's a good point. I was thinking  that when it's packaged the package will take care of that. I _think_ it should only need python-polib and python-distutils-extra to be installed. All the rest is standard python library
[15:57] <dpm> RawChid, I think if you install those two packages you should be good to go. setup.py is only needed if you want to install or distribute the package
[15:57] <RawChid> Hmm, I installed those 2
[15:57] <RawChid> When running setup.py I get: ERROR: Python module _pythonpath not found
[15:58] <dpm> RawChid, oh, let me see, this is probably a bug (I told you it was WIP :) Just a sec
[15:58] <RawChid> I think something gettext, let me take a look myself
[15:58] <RawChid> ERROR: Python module lp.translations.utilities.gettext_po_parser not found
[16:00] <dpm> RawChid, the ul10n-search tool should not call that. Are you sure you ran 'bin/ul10n-search --help' and not something else?
[16:01] <dpm> can you paste what you ran and the output on a pastebin?
[16:01] <dpm> andrejz, looking...
[16:01] <RawChid> LOL, I was running setup.py. The search tool is just working!
[16:01] <RawChid> :-D
[16:02] <andrejz> dpm, i am wondering if the form is ok for the developers to quickly change priority directly in the database
[16:03] <dpm> andrejz, they'll probably need a text file rather than a rich text document. However, the document you've created is perfect (it's trivial to convert it to a text file when it's finished)
[16:03] <dpm> good work!
[16:03] <dpm> RawChid, ok, problem solved, then :)
[16:04] <RawChid> Yes
[16:05] <RawChid> Now lets see if I find something improvable :P
[16:05] <andrejz> dpm, it's not finished yet. i still have about 100 templates left. hope i will manage by next week
[16:07] <dpm> andrejz, awesome!
[16:08] <andrejz> dpm who should i send the list to when i am done?
[16:10] <dpm> andrejz, just ping me and I'll convert the file to text and talk to the LP guys
[16:11] <sagaci> bit of a pre-question, but when will the lubuntu packages drift into the main translation sets, like the chromium-browser package
[16:49] <dpm> hi sagaci, they will only make it to Launchpad if the source packages are promoted to the main repository. Chromium is not translatable in Launchpad as a source package, either (it's not in main). However, it's translatable in Launchpad as an upstream project. If the Lubuntu guys chose to use Launchpad to manage translations for the upstream project, that would be another way of exposing the translations in Launchpad
[23:36] <cheapie> I'm wanting to translate Ubuntu into a language that's not mentioned anywhere on Launchpad (that I know of). If this is even possible, how would I do it?
[23:38] <cheapie> Hello? Anyone?
[23:39] <RawChid> Hello cheapie
[23:39] <RawChid> If you can't find a team which translating in that language, maybe there should be started a team for it
[23:40] <RawChid> Which language?
[23:41] <cheapie> Sorry about that.
[23:44] <cheapie_> ...stupid connection failed again...
[23:45] <RawChid> There are more people here in the afternoon (UTC time)
[23:45] <RawChid> Who know more about this than me ;)
[23:45] <cheapie_> RawChid: OK. I'll ask elsewhere.
[23:46] <RawChid> Ok, good luck