[02:41] I wish I had a bluetooth-controlled IR emitter in my living room [02:41] so I wouldn't have to get up to turn the stereo off. [02:42] <- lazy. [04:11] Getting some T-Storms here [04:36] http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/hhef3/in_which_zed_encounters_a_small_snag_with_fossil/ <- why do I feel like Hg is a great way to occasionally lose your work? [04:43] http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/hhef3/in_which_zed_encounters_a_small_snag_with_fossil/c1vg3nh <- Heh [12:15] Good morning [12:23] morning [12:24] ugh, here comes a case of the mondays [12:37] messed up my back doing yardwork. i hate meatspace [12:37] yea, busted butt to try to get lawn done before the rain [12:37] after doing basement cleaning/reorg [12:37] and paying for it this morning for sure [12:46] ugh [12:46] lelectrician is here early [12:47] so going to power down [13:04] lots of ugh this morning [13:05] heh, definitely [13:14] <_stink_> so if i'm in a manic state of happiness i should keep it to myself? [13:15] _stink_: hah, naw, need to raise the rest of us up [13:15] do share :P [13:17] he's such a tease [13:18] <_stink_> oh, i'm not. that was strictly hypothetical :P [13:19] crap, now you got our hopes all up for some sunshine and crushed us more [13:19] as long as one person was happy, i was ok with the world. now i'm gonna jump off a bridge [13:20] <_stink_> yeah, i have that effect on people [13:31] man, joplin got flattened [14:32] That was fun [14:32] party! [14:32] I think we need a coffee run [14:33] Heh [14:35] The electrician was early. Threw off the entire morning [14:36] Was supposed to be here at 8am. Was here at 7:40am [14:37] in the morning, 20 minutes *is* a huge deal. that can make or break a mood [14:38] http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/apettit7/52111/Rapture.jpg [14:38] Oh, I got a headbutt to the lips this morning instead of a kiss from JoDee [14:39] that's an odd electrician [14:39] I meant JoDee wasn't in a very happy mood [14:39] She was already being rushed for 8am, and 7:40am was too much [14:40] * greg-g nods [14:54] see, no if _stink_ has been all sharing the happy, he could have helped fix this, now it's more ugh [14:54] http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/firefox-5-beta-lands-right-on-schedule/12906 [14:54] Ok, it's all his fault is it? [14:54] FF5, here we go FF turns into chrome [14:54] (which is all good except now we have a FF extension to worry about ugh) [14:55] Heh [15:11] http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-prepping-10-more-cities-lte [15:11] some michigan love [15:16] Yay [15:16] * rick_h__ checks ohio for 4g coverage [15:16] I am downloading Lady Gaga's latest album, only becasue a) It's .99 on Amazon, and b) I think I still have a $1 credit at Amazon for a MP3 purchase. [15:17] mmmm, 4g could be cool for covering pyohio and OLF [15:17] could probably stream some ustream, etc [15:18] That would be cool [15:18] yea, we're still thinking of getting a table for OLF right? [15:18] I've not heard about that stuff opening up yet [15:18] Wow, people are tearing into Amazon because this album isn't downloading for them [15:19] http://www.amazon.com/Born-This-Way-digital-booklet/product-reviews/B0051QIGP4/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar [15:19] rick_h__: YEah, that's what I was thinking [15:19] I'm a little worried about PyOhio. Haven't heard a peep [15:19] re: registration / hotel / etc. [15:19] Just request for talks. [15:20] hmmm, yea I should email them shortly. I see some sponsorses listed and a category called "media sponsors" [15:20] but don't see a price category for that [15:20] vs OSS/.org [15:48] why do they keep trying to mess up a good thing? http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/23/kobo-introduces-new-touchscreen-e-reader-drops-original-model-to-99/ [15:49] I do not want to touch my e-reader kthx [16:40] Thanks, Amazon for completely fucking me. [16:41] .amz file only downloaded a handful of the tracks [16:41] joining the angry crowd? [16:41] Yes, but rather than passive-aggressive in the review section, I'm going to do something about it [16:47] Apparently they're having growing problems with the cloud downloads [17:12] miro changed their landing page [17:12] looks like it now has ads [17:12] and another service grows up [17:14] Yep [17:17] Might have to dust off piddlepodder if it gets too obtrusive. ;) [17:18] Who keeps changing the damn internet on me. [17:18] STOP IT! [17:18] yea, tell me about it [17:19] I'm going to start up a twitter account called 2010 Linux User. ;) [17:20] https://identi.ca/notice/74271560 [17:34] what's got snap-l's goat today? [17:37] Amazon MP3 store screwed up [17:40] inconcievable! [17:43] You were trying to download the new Lady Gaga album for 99 cents, weren't you? [17:43] I know that's what I'm doing when I get home... [18:41] rick_h__: recommend an AMI for use on EC2 with LAMP [18:41] one that's lamp prepped? [18:41] or just want to run a lamp server? [18:41] I'd just do an ubuntu micro ami to start out and setup from there [18:41] I don't know of any with lamp pre-installed/config [18:42] taht is waht I said, but these guys spun their wheels for an hour or two thinking there was some AMI out there that would save them from teh apt-get install libapache2-php5... [18:42] thanks. [18:42] it's like two commands to setup php on ubuntu :/ [18:43] sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server mysql-client phpmyadmin libapache2-mod-php5 [18:44] oh, missed php5-mysql [18:44] haven't done a php server in a while [18:44] does server version allow to install it at install time? [18:44] a little check box [18:45] well an AMI is pre-setup and doens't go through the install process [18:45] so you don't hit that on an EC2 box [18:45] ah [18:45] I'm sure someone has an AMI with that prepped up, but doesn't seem worth the time [18:45] wouldn't you just build out an instance how you like then save it off as an ami for other ones if you don't like typing apt-get install foo [18:45] well what you should do is script that [18:46] so that when you want to setup a new box, you'd run the script [18:46] you could, but if you are only building one EC2 instance, you need not. [18:46] and be able to spin up new instances, etc [18:46] man I hate slurpers [18:46] slurpers? [18:46] blog slurping? [18:46] people who slurp their can of soda constantly [18:46] lol. [18:46] oh, lol [18:46] didn't see that coming [18:46] what if it is coffee or tea? [18:46] greg-g: bring them an empty glass [18:47] all slurping is annoying, unless you are trying to drink something really hot, then it is only acceptable the first 2 times, after that, wait, or blow on it [18:47] quoteth greg-g: "after that...blow on it" [18:47] greg-g: slurp rules! I agree on these slurp rules. post 'em to the ubuntu loco wiki [18:47] quote of the day [18:48] glad my misery is funny [18:48] :P [18:49] come on, smiling helps make people less annoying [18:49] that and shooting them...but we're a bit far away for the second option [18:50] we're closer than you think [18:51] I think there was an old usenet command called slurp [18:52] so I had to re-read that to get the gist. :) [18:59] greg-g: what about 7-11 Slurpees? [19:00] do not slurp a slurpee [19:00] but... it's in the name! [19:01] it's practically required by definition [19:01] they're not called Sipees [19:01] :-p [19:04] wolfger: yeah, well.... seatbelts are not called safety restraint devices because they're unsafe! :P [19:04] oh crap, boom goes the Monday [19:04] greg-g: with the beat down [19:05] take note, this is the greg you get if you slurp in his presence [19:05] terrifying [19:05] Seatbelts are called seatbelts. Because they are belts. Attached to your seat. [19:06] erm, I meant safety belt, which they are also called [19:06] the sign on the dashboard does not say "fasten your safety belt" :-p [19:07] * wolfger suddenly gets a desire to find a way to slurp over IRC.... [19:07] slurp is a nntp binary downloader right? so you can snag 0-day movies from the usetnets. [19:09] http://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-safety-belt-works [19:10] http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/SafetyBelt/OPIPT_FinalRpt_07-17-03.html [19:10] rick_h__++ [19:11] http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safety-security/safety-belt/index.htm?printer=true [19:11] ok, I'm done then [19:11] "Shoulder belt (lap)"??? [19:11] They need Human Anatomy 101 [19:12] the shoulder is not located in or near the lap [19:12] just saying, that the dot.gov, nhtsa ...seem like some reasonable places to get 'terminology' from [19:14] :-p [19:14] 2carpros is a lousy place, though (apparantly) [19:15] well that one came up first, but yea...I figured I'd better get more authoratative before I got feedback [19:15] was originally looking for a sign that said safety belt [19:15] but most signs are just pictures of belts locking [19:15] what a timely discussion, since this weekend is the start of The Semi-annual Seatbelt Law Enforcement Week [19:15] greg-g: is sneaky like that [19:16] one of 2 (arguably 3) weeks per year that law enforcement really cares if you wear it or not [19:17] well, I think that I've got a few friends that would disagree [19:17] though I admit mostly they were stopped for reason X and the SB got added on for good measure [19:17] oops, I didn't *really* mean to get this conversation going ;) [19:17] exactly [19:17] but I'd hardly say 'really cares' only occurs during that limited time [19:18] greg-g: you troll, you pay the consequences [19:18] I've missed them all so far, and I'm running out of steam... [19:18] brousch: touche [19:18] http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1593_3504-256620--,00.html [19:18] and for my part, I've been pulled over twice for reason x while not wearing a belt, and not been ticketed for non-compliance with the belt... Just lucky I guess. [19:19] * greg-g grumbles of the mighigan.gov urls [19:19] michgan seatbelt rate is > 95% you can't get 5 percent of people to do anything, seems like a waste to focus so heavily on the last few percent right.. [19:19] but there's only 2 or 3 weeks a year where they will actually pull people over specifically to issue seatbelt tickets [19:19] meh, we've got crap like national donut day [19:19] the rest of the time, there's some other reason, and they pile on [19:19] nothing wrong with a little theme events once in a while [19:19] we do? when is that?! [19:19] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Doughnut_Day [19:20] lol [19:20] brousch: there's a " [19:20] (I just threw that out there, but you just know it had to exist) [19:20] I thought that was the point of fat tuesday [19:20] "National X Day" for virtually any X you can come up with [19:20] krondor: no, that's specific to the puncki thing right? [19:20] yes the superior donut [19:20] anyway, that's my point. It's like a company saying it's "quality week" [19:20] oh man, national donut day is coming up soon [19:21] first friday of ju ne [19:21] all entities setup themes [19:21] yeah but they also pump ad money into click it or ticket campaigns.. that's the waste I guess or 'seatbelt enforcement zones' rather then doing the normal police work. I bet there's OT opportunities too [19:21] * krondor wears his seatbelt always, but is annoyed anyway [19:22] what I want to know is, how do they determine there was "a dip" in seatbelt use? [19:23] krondor: true, but it's also a general reminder and somewhat friendly face of public law enforcement [19:23] they could look at accidents [19:23] "hey, we're looking out for you, we're protecting"... [19:23] I think what they really mean is "more people who dislike seatbelts got into accidents last year than the year before" [19:23] hah, this coderwall thing is brilliant [19:23] " During our beta we can only handle so many new accounts (due to API throttle limits and all). The current demand has us a little backlogged. Your expected wait time is currently 5 days in this queue. We'll email you as soon as your wall is ready." [19:23] june 3, national donut day 2011, is on my calendar now. thanks rick_h__ [19:23] "Cut in line and get your wall within the next 2 hours by clicking or tweeting your page" [19:23] also, if that's how they record seatbelt use, it's all a lie anyway [19:24] so doesn't auto tweet, but encourages me to do so, or else wait 5 days in the queue [19:24] I'm 0 for 3 on wearing seatbelts in accidents, but 3 for 3 according to police reports [19:24] because, I'd be stupid to admit to breaking the law now, wouldn't I? [19:25] wait, you've had 3 accidents/ [19:25] ? [19:25] so you're a liar and a seatbelt non-cnformist? i don't know which is worse [19:25] even my sucky driver wife has only had 1 [19:25] he's an accident prone crazy person is what it sounds like [19:25] Well, more than that. I've had 3 since the law went into effect [19:25] * brousch files that quote from rick_h__ away for future use [19:25] WHAT?! [19:26] Of those 3, I was a passenger in one. [19:26] ok, thanks. I've lost all interest in this discussion because it's not even intelligent any more, back to work [19:28] I'm wondering which part made the discussion unintelligent... the part where rick_h__ assumed I was a sucky driver without knowing if I was even behind the wheel (much less at-fault), or the part where.... well, I'm not sure [19:28] have any of you used gnome3 shell? [19:29] thanks, greg-g.... see what trouble you cause? :-) [19:31] Time to flee work. Have a good non-slurp-filled day. [19:33] brousch: Not recently. [19:59] ""Unity" which is the most un-unix-like GUI I've ever seen." [19:59] WOO HOO! [20:39] i don't even know what a "unix-like GUI" means. I've read some of the UNIX and POSIX spec. I don't recall anything about GUI in there. [20:39] if there was anything about GUI in there, it was xlib. [20:39] unity is definitely built on xlib :) [22:08] jrwren: You know what un-unix-like means in this instance? [22:08] jrwren: It means that the poster doesn't think it meets whatever lofty UNIX plateau they think GNOME / KDE achieved. [22:09] I wonder what they think of the Macintosh GUI, since that's UNIX-based. ;) [22:15] exactly, but said poster is a fool :) [22:15] or at least very ignornat. [22:15] pardon my spelling [22:15] Not absolving, just acknowledging. ;) [22:16] agreed [22:16] Personally, the only UNIX gui looks a little something like this: [22:16] $ [22:25] s/\$/#/ until sudo that was