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deejoejgould: how old?00:54
deejoeyou realize it takes some time to put together a distro, right, and that in that time, sometimes the versions of individual packages can get a little stale.00:55
deejoeit's a classic trade-off00:55
dmcglone1sup homies? ;-)02:26
jgouldI was looking for the marketplace or whatever they call it for intalling plugins and the version that is in the repos is too old for that... (that or it's eclipse classic)02:31
Unit193Launchpad PPAs..02:32
jgouldPPAs? Unit193?  What are you rambling about?02:36
Unit193It was connected in my mind... I just add LP PPAs for stuff I want to be up to date (Or add getdeb)02:37
jgouldoh.  I installed it from the eclpise website02:39
dmcglone1thafreak: did you manage to try Gnome 3 yet?02:42
Unit193Howdy skellat02:44
skellatHowdy02:45
skellatDang it.  I don't see anybody on who can kick the team's Drupal instance as it is throwing a 503 error.02:45
dmcglone1backup the DB and re-install drupal, that should work02:47
skellatI don't have the access to do that.02:47
dmcglone1Oh boy02:48
dmcglone1does paultag?02:48
skellatI think jpeddicord has it02:48
dmcglone1I see02:48
Unit193I had issues accessing it too...02:49
skellatI can create nodes but that's all I've ever had the authorization to do02:49
dmcglone1I haven't been on the site in a while02:54
dmcglone1I gotta go get a shower02:56
skellatdmcglone1: You enjoy that02:57
skellatWell, I'm going to just ping jpeddicord on Twitter and call it a night for trying to do anything on that front02:57
skellatGoodnight y'all02:57
jgouldand I lost two finger scrolling after the last suspend/resume cycle03:00
Unit193That laptop is all kinds of not supported....03:01
jgouldhmm...  Also lost any sort of volume control...03:03
jgouldAlso, gnome-power-manger just started using 97% of the CPU...03:08
jgouldand now two finger scrolling is back... *scratches head*03:12
canthus13jgould: Suspend is a pain in the butt on some laptops.03:23
* canthus13 never bothers with it.03:23
jgouldbut I've neer had these problems before... These are realitivly new problems03:35
canthus13jgould: that seems to be the way it is... laptop suspends/resumes fine for months, then suddenly says 'oshit! I'm working right... gotta quit that!'03:43
Unit193canthus13: That sounds like windows... s/months/weeks/03:44
canthus13Unit193: I'm talking specifically about suspend/resume, though.03:48
jgouldMy only concern about turning it off and then back in is that in Gnome (at least) I don't have the ability to save my state.  (If it's there, I havent' found it) The web browsers save thier state, but other applications don't...03:51
paultagI don't have any site access of meaning :)03:52
paultagJacob rocks that shit03:52
paultagBRB03:52
Unit193-offtopic I can keep XP running for 40days, Vista flip a coin, Linux 'til it crashes/loses USB support and other linux 'til X crashes!03:52
jacobhmm?03:52
jacobah yes, drupal. i did restart it. :>03:53
jacobappears PHP crashed. i'm going to bring up redundant instances to try to prevent that in the future later this week03:53
jacobalso, if someone sees skellat, let him know that this is jpeddicord, and i might respond to IRC slightly more quickly.03:55
jgouldI can keep the MacOS running until some software update and Linux until I loose functionaly based on something important, and the server just goes, and goes, and goes (until the power goes out...)03:56
jgouldThere is something to be said for command line only machines and stabliltiy...03:57
Unit193jgould: +1! The router has only a webui and it's rockin' 74 days (And that's not even close to as long as I have had it on)04:00
Unit193+before04:00
jgouldAnyone have an EMP gun I can borrow.  I want to turn off the neighbors stereo...04:02
jgouldHow diffrent are Debian and Ubuntu now?04:05
jgouldI wonder if our corprate office is still standing....  It's in Eden Praire, MN... they got hit with a twister today04:08
jgouldhmm... Website is very slow04:09
Unit193Anyone get Google Talk to work in Ubuntu? (Not gmail)04:13
jgoulddoes anyone kow if Chromium has an 'about:config' type page?04:14
jgouldNever tried, Unit193.  I jsut use empathy or the web interface in gmail04:14
Unit193Empathy for the audio function?04:17
Unit193I think pidgin has it by default, I just need to test call... Nobody is up at this time...04:18
jgouldI have no clue04:18
jgouldI don't have audio right now, otherwise I'd help you...04:19
Unit193Right click > Audio call so it's supposed to have it (Said so in changelog)04:20
jgouldFor empathy or pidgin?04:20
Unit193Pidgin (Xubuntu now)04:21
* Cheri703 is awake...it is unreliable though04:23
jgouldI have an option for audio call04:23
jgouldMy dog is cuddled up with me..04:26
Unit193Pidgin still doesn't play well with it?04:27
jgouldI don't have anyone to test wiht04:27
Unit193jgould: That was aimed at Cheri703 (I should have said that, sorry)04:28
jgouldoh04:28
jgouldHeh04:28
Cheri703pidgin freezes up on me when I try it04:28
Unit193I could just start calling random GTalk numbers ;) (Need to figure out SMS and phones on it)04:28
Cheri703you can call me, as I said, I'm up04:29
jgouldOh dear... It's almost time for the Memorial....04:29
Unit193Cheri703: I may do that...04:30
Unit193Favorite VoIP client?04:30
Unit193(That works with SIP)04:30
Cheri703uhm...04:30
Cheri703I dunno04:31
Cheri703I use gtalk in browser for video/audio as needed04:31
Cheri703if anyone wants to call me, do it soon, I just ate a BIG piece of peanut butter cocoa krispie treat thing, and will likely be REALLY out of it really soon...04:35
Cheri703woo blood sugar!04:35
Unit193:facepalms:04:37
Unit193Installed ekiga on the wrong computer...04:37
* jgould goes to Cheri703's to help her eat this peanut butter cocoa krispie treat thing04:38
Cheri703it's AWESOME04:38
* Cheri703 gets the recipe...one sec04:38
jgouldHeh. Unit193 I havent' done that yet, but I imageine at some point I will04:38
Cheri703http://www.honeyneverspoils.com/2010/05/peanut-butter-squares.html04:39
Cheri703sub normal rice krispies for cocoa krispies and it's awesome :)04:39
Cheri703er...reverse that04:39
Unit193SSH...04:39
Unit193Haha! A bug just went into the light and smoked a little...04:41
Unit193...And now it smells like it04:41
Cheri703ew04:42
jgouldew04:43
Unit193Mic doesn't work I guess...04:43
Cheri703Unit193: can you hear me?04:43
Unit193Cheri703: Yep... Mine is broken04:43
Cheri703ah, ok04:43
Cheri703I answered in gchat04:43
Cheri703didn't pop up in pidgin04:43
* jgould waits on Debian 6 to install...04:43
Cheri703*gmail gchat04:43
jgouldThere are too many gchats...04:44
Unit193It asked me what one I wanted to call04:44
Cheri703really?04:45
jgouldDifferent presences.  Each client has a unique ID number04:46
Cheri703ah04:47
Unit193gmail.105769A1 or 07221B3A04:49
Unit193(There is also androidad10fa1efc61 )04:49
Cheri703hehe, yeah, I'm signed in there04:49
jgouldthe one labled gmail.whatever  is the instance in the gmail interface.  the 07221b3a is probably pidgin04:50
Unit193jgould: Yep!04:50
jgouldI work in diffrent clients all the time.  People tend to shoot the mesage to my BlackBerry if in doubt and they get a choice04:50
jgouldas a matter of fact, if you were to look at my login, I would have two gmail.xxxxx and who knows  what the blackberry shows up as04:57
Unit193jgould: I don't have you added ;)05:01
jgouldIntresting... I have no audio control,  but I have audio...05:20
Cheri703jgould: perhaps install pavumeter? if you have pulseaudio running05:21
Unit193alsamixer is my friend05:24
jgouldAlsamixer works, but shows nothing is muted, if I try to go to prefrences, it has to wait for the sound system to respond. (which it doesn't)05:25
Cheri703:/05:26
jgouldTis going to take a reboot to fix05:26
Cheri703rawr rawr rawr05:29
jgouldsilly computers05:30
canthus13jgould: Silly suspend. :(05:31
jgouldThat too, canthus1305:31
canthus13jgould: suspend can break lots of stuff.05:32
jgouldDebian 6 looks like Ubuntu...05:39
canthus13Ubuntu looks like Debian.05:42
canthus13...or did, anyway.05:43
jgouldWith the execption of Color schemes, Gnome in Debian looks like Gnome in Ubuntu05:43
jgouldDebain doens't add the first user to the sudoers file?05:46
* jgould ponders...05:57
jgouldcanthus13: do you shut down your laptop every time or what do you do?05:59
Cheri703I'm not especially tired, I'm just really bored -_-06:18
Cheri703so I'm contemplating sleep, but not because I need to :/06:18
jgouldI'm bored too, Cheri703... I'm just randomly installing things...06:21
Cheri703heh06:21
Cheri703I have a spreadsheet to redo, but I'll be doing that tomorrow or later06:21
Cheri703I'm watching some kind of dumb tv show06:22
jgouldThere is nothing on TV if you don't have cable.  So I'm just playing on the computer06:25
jgouldwell that was great...  I fat fingered my Unemployment claim....06:36
Cheri703I don't have cable or even an antenna, I download/stream shows06:36
jgouldah.  that is one way to do ti06:37
* jgould hoots like an owl06:43
Cheri703o.O06:43
jgouldI'm bored, what can I say...06:44
* jgould ponders converting the Mac Mini in to a secondary server to do things like video encoding on...06:46
Cheri703go for it06:46
jgouldif it looses it's head, I can snatch the monitor as an external for the Macbook06:46
Cheri703yeah, headless is nice06:48
jgouldThe primary server is headless... although,  I think the macbook needs restarted as it just decided to stop responding to input...06:50
Cheri703nice06:53
jgouldgood thing i could still swtich to a console..06:54
* jgould blinks06:55
jgouldMy grub screen looks like the screen from Debian 606:55
Cheri703I don't know what that looks like06:56
jgouldIt has a globe as the background... I don't have debian 6 on here,  just Ubuntu.  (Debian 6 is installed in a Virtualbox06:58
Cheri703weird06:59
jgouldI knows07:00
jgouldIntresting... Every CD I have refuses to boot the MAc Mini07:36
* jgould is confused09:22
jgouldFinally11:26
jgouldI hate dealing with the govenrment13:08
deejoerugged individualism, going it on your own, without help from taxpayers, does have a certain romantic appeal.13:42
deejoebut then one gets led to do bizarre things like drink colloidal silver and such.13:42
jgouldHeh13:55
jgouldI managed a scroll and changed *why* I was filing for unemployment...13:55
deejoejgould: as for the Mac mini, what CDs do you have, and what model mini?14:09
* deejoe has a bit of experience with Macs, both PPC and Intel14:09
deejoealso, we're talking Linux here, right?  Not MacOS?14:10
jgouldIt's a Mini2,1, and name a Disk that I have for Ubuntu... I finally got it to work14:32
jgouldIt's running 10.04 LTS Server now14:33
jgouldHeh... Shockwave Crashed...14:52
canthus13Shockwave?15:16
jgouldit's part of flash, and Chrome was complaining about it...15:24
jgouldLooks like a good day to stay home and stay in... This overturned truck on 270 has all the traffic around us screwed up15:30
canthus13I didn't realize shockwave was integrated into flash...16:09
deejoeinteresting that the wikipedia Mac mini page has no specs for PowerPC minis16:10
thafreakMORNING16:11
thafreakerr...i guess it's not morning no mo16:11
jgouldI don't know what I would have had running that was shockwave16:19
jgouldThis one is an Intel Mini.  From Mid 2007.16:20
jgouldUgh... Headache16:21
thafreakhttp://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/112769/like-button-follows-users-wsj16:22
thafreakSo...anyone use any kind of filtering proxy type deal?16:28
jgouldNope16:29
* jgould wishes that he didn't have to turn on the external monitor in the settings when he plugged it in16:30
thafreakSomething like untangle...16:30
Cheri703jgould: I have a script + Launcher for my external monitor :)16:32
jgouldMy neighbor is an idiot16:35
jgouldshe claims she can smell what ever chemical this truck was carrying16:38
jgouldOk... I'm starting to get sleep17:13
jgouldy17:13
Derath-Srvrhi all17:58
Unit193Howdy Derath-Srvr!18:00
Unit193How is it?18:00
Derath-Srvrsigh... been better18:04
Derath-Srvrheat pump died...18:05
Derath-Srvrthankfully won't need heat soon, but either 1k to repair or 5.5k to replace whole system inside and out18:06
Unit193That really doesn't seem good... Do you have AC?18:06
Derath-SrvrThankfully...18:07
Derath-Srvrwhich is the odd part as well, it's a heat pump system, so ac and heat are same unit18:07
Derath-Srvrjust a valve that reverses the flow...18:08
thafreakcanthus13: what nx client do you use?18:19
thafreakseems the only one that actually works is nomachine's...18:19
canthus13thafreak: Nomachine's NX client.19:08
thafreakLooking through some of my old stuff...I found a brief proposal for a file sharing protocol that I wrote up...sonds basically like how TOR works...20:38
thafreakthe timestamp on my stuff is 2001...TOR came around in 2002...20:40
thafreakman, if I only had the drive like paultag to work on these ideas i had...20:41
paultagthafreak: just do it!21:00
thafreakhaha, I don't think I'm really into p2p file sharing anymore...that was like 10 years ago I wrote that paultag21:06
thafreakand if I could "just do it" back then...it's a wee bit harder now :)21:06
paultagthafreak: well I know, I'm just saying, you's a smart guy21:09
paultagif you have an idea, chances are it's a good one21:09
paultagand you should do it, because good ideas make me happy21:10
paultagin fact when I hear good ideas, my brain releases tons of happy chemicals that make me like that person more21:10
Derath-Srvrlol There's a lot that makes you happy lol21:10
paultagDerath-Srvr: mostly just good ideas and patches21:10
paultagalso this one girl last night, but that's about it21:10
Derath-Srvrlol21:11
paultagfor some reason I love when people explain things to me21:11
paultagit's like a mental love party21:11
Derath-SrvrBeen debating on the council thing...21:12
paultagDerath-Srvr: go for it!21:12
paultagDerath-Srvr: there is literally no downside. if you don't wait it, you don't have to take it21:12
Derath-SrvrYeah, was thinking about that... at first I was thinking, if I was nominated I'd run with it...21:13
Derath-SrvrStill dunno tho...21:14
Cheri703I need to update my wiki and submit an "about me" to the list21:15
paultagCheri703: Derath-Srvr: Rock it out!21:15
paultagBRB, just thought of a really awesome idea21:15
paultagI need to implement it, BRB21:15
canthus13thafreak: I2P is an encrypted P2P.21:29
canthus13Well, it has encrypted P2P, anyway.21:30
Unit193I would say I'm going to vote for an IRC person :)21:42
Cheri703?21:43
Unit193Council person from IRC ( Derath-Srvr or Cheri703 )21:44
Cheri703ah, ok21:44
* Cheri703 reminds Unit193 that she gave him stickers ;D21:44
Cheri703kidding kidding21:44
* Unit193 needs to check out the others before I actually vote...21:44
Cheri703mmmhm ;)21:45
Unit193Cheri703: I'll only do it for cookies ;)21:45
Cheri703hmmm.....wonder when the official vote day is...may have to bake for the next ubuntu hour21:45
Cheri703so I want it to be tomorrow already...I've been antsy waiting for this nook announcement21:46
Unit193Right now we just have SMK, Cheri703 and maybe Derath-Srvr?22:15

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