[00:54] <deejoe> jgould: how old?
[00:55] <deejoe> you realize it takes some time to put together a distro, right, and that in that time, sometimes the versions of individual packages can get a little stale.
[00:55] <deejoe> it's a classic trade-off
[02:26] <dmcglone1> sup homies? ;-)
[02:31] <jgould> I was looking for the marketplace or whatever they call it for intalling plugins and the version that is in the repos is too old for that... (that or it's eclipse classic)
[02:32] <Unit193> Launchpad PPAs..
[02:36] <jgould> PPAs? Unit193?  What are you rambling about?
[02:37] <Unit193> It was connected in my mind... I just add LP PPAs for stuff I want to be up to date (Or add getdeb)
[02:39] <jgould> oh.  I installed it from the eclpise website
[02:42] <dmcglone1> thafreak: did you manage to try Gnome 3 yet?
[02:44] <Unit193> Howdy skellat
[02:45] <skellat> Howdy
[02:45] <skellat> Dang it.  I don't see anybody on who can kick the team's Drupal instance as it is throwing a 503 error.
[02:47] <dmcglone1> backup the DB and re-install drupal, that should work
[02:47] <skellat> I don't have the access to do that.
[02:48] <dmcglone1> Oh boy
[02:48] <dmcglone1> does paultag?
[02:48] <skellat> I think jpeddicord has it
[02:48] <dmcglone1> I see
[02:49] <Unit193> I had issues accessing it too...
[02:49] <skellat> I can create nodes but that's all I've ever had the authorization to do
[02:54] <dmcglone1> I haven't been on the site in a while
[02:56] <dmcglone1> I gotta go get a shower
[02:57] <skellat> dmcglone1: You enjoy that
[02:57] <skellat> Well, I'm going to just ping jpeddicord on Twitter and call it a night for trying to do anything on that front
[02:57] <skellat> Goodnight y'all
[03:00] <jgould> and I lost two finger scrolling after the last suspend/resume cycle
[03:01] <Unit193> That laptop is all kinds of not supported....
[03:03] <jgould> hmm...  Also lost any sort of volume control...
[03:08] <jgould> Also, gnome-power-manger just started using 97% of the CPU...
[03:12] <jgould> and now two finger scrolling is back... *scratches head*
[03:23] <canthus13> jgould: Suspend is a pain in the butt on some laptops.
[03:23]  * canthus13 never bothers with it.
[03:35] <jgould> but I've neer had these problems before... These are realitivly new problems
[03:43] <canthus13> jgould: that seems to be the way it is... laptop suspends/resumes fine for months, then suddenly says 'oshit! I'm working right... gotta quit that!'
[03:44] <Unit193> canthus13: That sounds like windows... s/months/weeks/
[03:48] <canthus13> Unit193: I'm talking specifically about suspend/resume, though.
[03:51] <jgould> My only concern about turning it off and then back in is that in Gnome (at least) I don't have the ability to save my state.  (If it's there, I havent' found it) The web browsers save thier state, but other applications don't...
[03:52] <paultag> I don't have any site access of meaning :)
[03:52] <paultag> Jacob rocks that shit
[03:52] <paultag> BRB
[03:52] <Unit193> -offtopic I can keep XP running for 40days, Vista flip a coin, Linux 'til it crashes/loses USB support and other linux 'til X crashes!
[03:52] <jacob> hmm?
[03:53] <jacob> ah yes, drupal. i did restart it. :>
[03:53] <jacob> appears PHP crashed. i'm going to bring up redundant instances to try to prevent that in the future later this week
[03:55] <jacob> also, if someone sees skellat, let him know that this is jpeddicord, and i might respond to IRC slightly more quickly.
[03:56] <jgould> I can keep the MacOS running until some software update and Linux until I loose functionaly based on something important, and the server just goes, and goes, and goes (until the power goes out...)
[03:57] <jgould> There is something to be said for command line only machines and stabliltiy...
[04:00] <Unit193> jgould: +1! The router has only a webui and it's rockin' 74 days (And that's not even close to as long as I have had it on)
[04:00] <Unit193> +before
[04:02] <jgould> Anyone have an EMP gun I can borrow.  I want to turn off the neighbors stereo...
[04:05] <jgould> How diffrent are Debian and Ubuntu now?
[04:08] <jgould> I wonder if our corprate office is still standing....  It's in Eden Praire, MN... they got hit with a twister today
[04:09] <jgould> hmm... Website is very slow
[04:13] <Unit193> Anyone get Google Talk to work in Ubuntu? (Not gmail)
[04:14] <jgould> does anyone kow if Chromium has an 'about:config' type page?
[04:14] <jgould> Never tried, Unit193.  I jsut use empathy or the web interface in gmail
[04:17] <Unit193> Empathy for the audio function?
[04:18] <Unit193> I think pidgin has it by default, I just need to test call... Nobody is up at this time...
[04:18] <jgould> I have no clue
[04:19] <jgould> I don't have audio right now, otherwise I'd help you...
[04:20] <Unit193> Right click > Audio call so it's supposed to have it (Said so in changelog)
[04:20] <jgould> For empathy or pidgin?
[04:21] <Unit193> Pidgin (Xubuntu now)
[04:23]  * Cheri703 is awake...it is unreliable though
[04:23] <jgould> I have an option for audio call
[04:26] <jgould> My dog is cuddled up with me..
[04:27] <Unit193> Pidgin still doesn't play well with it?
[04:27] <jgould> I don't have anyone to test wiht
[04:28] <Unit193> jgould: That was aimed at Cheri703 (I should have said that, sorry)
[04:28] <jgould> oh
[04:28] <jgould> Heh
[04:28] <Cheri703> pidgin freezes up on me when I try it
[04:28] <Unit193> I could just start calling random GTalk numbers ;) (Need to figure out SMS and phones on it)
[04:29] <Cheri703> you can call me, as I said, I'm up
[04:29] <jgould> Oh dear... It's almost time for the Memorial....
[04:30] <Unit193> Cheri703: I may do that...
[04:30] <Unit193> Favorite VoIP client?
[04:30] <Unit193> (That works with SIP)
[04:30] <Cheri703> uhm...
[04:31] <Cheri703> I dunno
[04:31] <Cheri703> I use gtalk in browser for video/audio as needed
[04:35] <Cheri703> if anyone wants to call me, do it soon, I just ate a BIG piece of peanut butter cocoa krispie treat thing, and will likely be REALLY out of it really soon...
[04:35] <Cheri703> woo blood sugar!
[04:37] <Unit193> :facepalms:
[04:37] <Unit193> Installed ekiga on the wrong computer...
[04:38]  * jgould goes to Cheri703's to help her eat this peanut butter cocoa krispie treat thing
[04:38] <Cheri703> it's AWESOME
[04:38]  * Cheri703 gets the recipe...one sec
[04:38] <jgould> Heh. Unit193 I havent' done that yet, but I imageine at some point I will
[04:39] <Cheri703> http://www.honeyneverspoils.com/2010/05/peanut-butter-squares.html
[04:39] <Cheri703> sub normal rice krispies for cocoa krispies and it's awesome :)
[04:39] <Cheri703> er...reverse that
[04:39] <Unit193> SSH...
[04:41] <Unit193> Haha! A bug just went into the light and smoked a little...
[04:41] <Unit193> ...And now it smells like it
[04:42] <Cheri703> ew
[04:43] <jgould> ew
[04:43] <Unit193> Mic doesn't work I guess...
[04:43] <Cheri703> Unit193: can you hear me?
[04:43] <Unit193> Cheri703: Yep... Mine is broken
[04:43] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[04:43] <Cheri703> I answered in gchat
[04:43] <Cheri703> didn't pop up in pidgin
[04:43]  * jgould waits on Debian 6 to install...
[04:43] <Cheri703> *gmail gchat
[04:44] <jgould> There are too many gchats...
[04:44] <Unit193> It asked me what one I wanted to call
[04:45] <Cheri703> really?
[04:46] <jgould> Different presences.  Each client has a unique ID number
[04:47] <Cheri703> ah
[04:49] <Unit193> gmail.105769A1 or 07221B3A
[04:49] <Unit193> (There is also androidad10fa1efc61 )
[04:49] <Cheri703> hehe, yeah, I'm signed in there
[04:50] <jgould> the one labled gmail.whatever  is the instance in the gmail interface.  the 07221b3a is probably pidgin
[04:50] <Unit193> jgould: Yep!
[04:50] <jgould> I work in diffrent clients all the time.  People tend to shoot the mesage to my BlackBerry if in doubt and they get a choice
[04:57] <jgould> as a matter of fact, if you were to look at my login, I would have two gmail.xxxxx and who knows  what the blackberry shows up as
[05:01] <Unit193> jgould: I don't have you added ;)
[05:20] <jgould> Intresting... I have no audio control,  but I have audio...
[05:21] <Cheri703> jgould: perhaps install pavumeter? if you have pulseaudio running
[05:24] <Unit193> alsamixer is my friend
[05:25] <jgould> Alsamixer works, but shows nothing is muted, if I try to go to prefrences, it has to wait for the sound system to respond. (which it doesn't)
[05:26] <Cheri703> :/
[05:26] <jgould> Tis going to take a reboot to fix
[05:29] <Cheri703> rawr rawr rawr
[05:30] <jgould> silly computers
[05:31] <canthus13> jgould: Silly suspend. :(
[05:31] <jgould> That too, canthus13
[05:32] <canthus13> jgould: suspend can break lots of stuff.
[05:39] <jgould> Debian 6 looks like Ubuntu...
[05:42] <canthus13> Ubuntu looks like Debian.
[05:43] <canthus13> ...or did, anyway.
[05:43] <jgould> With the execption of Color schemes, Gnome in Debian looks like Gnome in Ubuntu
[05:46] <jgould> Debain doens't add the first user to the sudoers file?
[05:57]  * jgould ponders...
[05:59] <jgould> canthus13: do you shut down your laptop every time or what do you do?
[06:18] <Cheri703> I'm not especially tired, I'm just really bored -_-
[06:18] <Cheri703> so I'm contemplating sleep, but not because I need to :/
[06:21] <jgould> I'm bored too, Cheri703... I'm just randomly installing things...
[06:21] <Cheri703> heh
[06:21] <Cheri703> I have a spreadsheet to redo, but I'll be doing that tomorrow or later
[06:22] <Cheri703> I'm watching some kind of dumb tv show
[06:25] <jgould> There is nothing on TV if you don't have cable.  So I'm just playing on the computer
[06:36] <jgould> well that was great...  I fat fingered my Unemployment claim....
[06:36] <Cheri703> I don't have cable or even an antenna, I download/stream shows
[06:37] <jgould> ah.  that is one way to do ti
[06:43]  * jgould hoots like an owl
[06:43] <Cheri703> o.O
[06:44] <jgould> I'm bored, what can I say...
[06:46]  * jgould ponders converting the Mac Mini in to a secondary server to do things like video encoding on...
[06:46] <Cheri703> go for it
[06:46] <jgould> if it looses it's head, I can snatch the monitor as an external for the Macbook
[06:48] <Cheri703> yeah, headless is nice
[06:50] <jgould> The primary server is headless... although,  I think the macbook needs restarted as it just decided to stop responding to input...
[06:53] <Cheri703> nice
[06:54] <jgould> good thing i could still swtich to a console..
[06:55]  * jgould blinks
[06:55] <jgould> My grub screen looks like the screen from Debian 6
[06:56] <Cheri703> I don't know what that looks like
[06:58] <jgould> It has a globe as the background... I don't have debian 6 on here,  just Ubuntu.  (Debian 6 is installed in a Virtualbox
[06:59] <Cheri703> weird
[07:00] <jgould> I knows
[07:36] <jgould> Intresting... Every CD I have refuses to boot the MAc Mini
[09:22]  * jgould is confused
[11:26] <jgould> Finally
[13:08] <jgould> I hate dealing with the govenrment
[13:42] <deejoe> rugged individualism, going it on your own, without help from taxpayers, does have a certain romantic appeal.
[13:42] <deejoe> but then one gets led to do bizarre things like drink colloidal silver and such.
[13:55] <jgould> Heh
[13:55] <jgould> I managed a scroll and changed *why* I was filing for unemployment...
[14:09] <deejoe> jgould: as for the Mac mini, what CDs do you have, and what model mini?
[14:09]  * deejoe has a bit of experience with Macs, both PPC and Intel
[14:10] <deejoe> also, we're talking Linux here, right?  Not MacOS?
[14:32] <jgould> It's a Mini2,1, and name a Disk that I have for Ubuntu... I finally got it to work
[14:33] <jgould> It's running 10.04 LTS Server now
[14:52] <jgould> Heh... Shockwave Crashed...
[15:16] <canthus13> Shockwave?
[15:24] <jgould> it's part of flash, and Chrome was complaining about it...
[15:30] <jgould> Looks like a good day to stay home and stay in... This overturned truck on 270 has all the traffic around us screwed up
[16:09] <canthus13> I didn't realize shockwave was integrated into flash...
[16:10] <deejoe> interesting that the wikipedia Mac mini page has no specs for PowerPC minis
[16:11] <thafreak> MORNING
[16:11] <thafreak> err...i guess it's not morning no mo
[16:19] <jgould> I don't know what I would have had running that was shockwave
[16:20] <jgould> This one is an Intel Mini.  From Mid 2007.
[16:21] <jgould> Ugh... Headache
[16:22] <thafreak> http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/112769/like-button-follows-users-wsj
[16:28] <thafreak> So...anyone use any kind of filtering proxy type deal?
[16:29] <jgould> Nope
[16:30]  * jgould wishes that he didn't have to turn on the external monitor in the settings when he plugged it in
[16:30] <thafreak> Something like untangle...
[16:32] <Cheri703> jgould: I have a script + Launcher for my external monitor :)
[16:35] <jgould> My neighbor is an idiot
[16:38] <jgould> she claims she can smell what ever chemical this truck was carrying
[17:13] <jgould> Ok... I'm starting to get sleep
[17:13] <jgould> y
[17:58] <Derath-Srvr> hi all
[18:00] <Unit193> Howdy Derath-Srvr!
[18:00] <Unit193> How is it?
[18:04] <Derath-Srvr> sigh... been better
[18:05] <Derath-Srvr> heat pump died...
[18:06] <Derath-Srvr> thankfully won't need heat soon, but either 1k to repair or 5.5k to replace whole system inside and out
[18:06] <Unit193> That really doesn't seem good... Do you have AC?
[18:07] <Derath-Srvr> Thankfully...
[18:07] <Derath-Srvr> which is the odd part as well, it's a heat pump system, so ac and heat are same unit
[18:08] <Derath-Srvr> just a valve that reverses the flow...
[18:19] <thafreak> canthus13: what nx client do you use?
[18:19] <thafreak> seems the only one that actually works is nomachine's...
[19:08] <canthus13> thafreak: Nomachine's NX client.
[20:38] <thafreak> Looking through some of my old stuff...I found a brief proposal for a file sharing protocol that I wrote up...sonds basically like how TOR works...
[20:40] <thafreak> the timestamp on my stuff is 2001...TOR came around in 2002...
[20:41] <thafreak> man, if I only had the drive like paultag to work on these ideas i had...
[21:00] <paultag> thafreak: just do it!
[21:06] <thafreak> haha, I don't think I'm really into p2p file sharing anymore...that was like 10 years ago I wrote that paultag
[21:06] <thafreak> and if I could "just do it" back then...it's a wee bit harder now :)
[21:09] <paultag> thafreak: well I know, I'm just saying, you's a smart guy
[21:09] <paultag> if you have an idea, chances are it's a good one
[21:10] <paultag> and you should do it, because good ideas make me happy
[21:10] <paultag> in fact when I hear good ideas, my brain releases tons of happy chemicals that make me like that person more
[21:10] <Derath-Srvr> lol There's a lot that makes you happy lol
[21:10] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: mostly just good ideas and patches
[21:10] <paultag> also this one girl last night, but that's about it
[21:11] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[21:11] <paultag> for some reason I love when people explain things to me
[21:11] <paultag> it's like a mental love party
[21:12] <Derath-Srvr> Been debating on the council thing...
[21:12] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: go for it!
[21:12] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: there is literally no downside. if you don't wait it, you don't have to take it
[21:13] <Derath-Srvr> Yeah, was thinking about that... at first I was thinking, if I was nominated I'd run with it...
[21:14] <Derath-Srvr> Still dunno tho...
[21:15] <Cheri703> I need to update my wiki and submit an "about me" to the list
[21:15] <paultag> Cheri703: Derath-Srvr: Rock it out!
[21:15] <paultag> BRB, just thought of a really awesome idea
[21:15] <paultag> I need to implement it, BRB
[21:29] <canthus13> thafreak: I2P is an encrypted P2P.
[21:30] <canthus13> Well, it has encrypted P2P, anyway.
[21:42] <Unit193> I would say I'm going to vote for an IRC person :)
[21:43] <Cheri703> ?
[21:44] <Unit193> Council person from IRC ( Derath-Srvr or Cheri703 )
[21:44] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[21:44]  * Cheri703 reminds Unit193 that she gave him stickers ;D
[21:44] <Cheri703> kidding kidding
[21:44]  * Unit193 needs to check out the others before I actually vote...
[21:45] <Cheri703> mmmhm ;)
[21:45] <Unit193> Cheri703: I'll only do it for cookies ;)
[21:45] <Cheri703> hmmm.....wonder when the official vote day is...may have to bake for the next ubuntu hour
[21:46] <Cheri703> so I want it to be tomorrow already...I've been antsy waiting for this nook announcement
[22:15] <Unit193> Right now we just have SMK, Cheri703 and maybe Derath-Srvr?