[00:07] <JonathanD> hello Sadin
[00:07] <Sadin> hi JonathanD
[00:07] <Sadin> i thought id join since i live in PA too
[00:07] <Sadin> even though im not an adult lol
[00:09] <JonathanD> welcome
[00:10] <Sadin> So what do you do?
[00:10] <JonathanD> I'm the sysadmin for a small finance co, myself.
[00:11] <Sadin> Oh wow that counds cool
[00:11] <Sadin> im a Web developer and i also enjoy using photoshop :)
[00:12] <JonathanD> I don't do anything for ubuntu, exactly, but I do organize events in the area.
[00:12] <Sadin> ill be graduating 10th grade this year :)
[00:12] <Sadin> oh what are the different types of events again
[00:13] <JonathanD> for ubuntu or in general?
[00:13] <JonathanD> There are loco meetings, I'm not sure when the next one is... thats an ubuntu thing.
[00:13] <JonathanD> Where in PA, generally?
[00:13] <Sadin> im by Reading
[00:13] <JonathanD> ah
[00:14] <JonathanD> theres quite a bit of "tech stuff" in and around philly
[00:14] <Sadin> oh cool
[00:14] <Sadin> doubt ill be able to go till im 18 and have my license :)
[00:14] <Sadin> where are you from?
[00:15] <JonathanD> Philly area.
[00:16] <Sadin> yeah im about an hour from philly
[00:16] <Sadin> just finished my 3rd ubuntu install :)
[00:20] <ChinnoDog> Reading.. mmm, Chipotle. I wish I had a burrito.
[00:21] <jedijf> ChinnoDog's gonna do an Ubuntu Hour near Sadin soon; just to prove his parents' correct
[00:21] <jedijf> or her....
[00:21] <ChinnoDog> jedijf: What are you trying to say?
[00:21] <Sadin> his*
[00:22] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: trying to get an 'out there' ubuntu hour, and i guess parents should think that, but attend and see we're mostly norma;
[00:22] <jedijf> normal too
[00:22] <Sadin> does anyone know why my ubuntu 11.04 install is not wanting to use duel moniters correctly
[00:22] <jedijf> or call the police; whatever motivates them
[00:22] <ChinnoDog> That doesn't happen /every/ time. hehe.
[00:23] <jedijf> Sadin: i guess the place to start would be your video card; lspci and see what card; then google
[00:23] <rmg51> it just has to happen once :P
[00:24] <Sadin> jedijf what do i need the driver?
[00:24] <ChinnoDog> Sadin: be sure you run an update before you start debugging. Video problem could already be fixed.
[00:24] <Sadin> ohhhhhh
[00:24] <Sadin> yeah i forgot to sudo apt-get update
[00:24] <ChinnoDog> That is what usually happens after release. Many problems fixed in first two weeks but you don't get the patches until you update.
[00:25] <Sadin> can i get anyones opinion on this besides its bad quality http://zachsnyder.deviantart.com/#/d3gz1vh
[00:25] <PennBot> Title: ZachSnyder on deviantART (at zachsnyder.deviantart.com)
[00:25] <Sadin> yeah i forgot lol
[00:27] <ChinnoDog> Don't forget about guidelines if you want to use it: http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/
[00:27] <PennBot> Title: Ubuntu Brand Guidelines « Canonical Design (at design.canonical.com)
[00:27] <ChinnoDog> Your graphic needs to be antialiased.
[00:31] <Sadin> ChinnoDog alright it also looked better in gimp because i didnt realise but at the time it was being viewed in gimp at 66% zoom
[00:33] <Sadin> nope duel moniters arent working even after update...
[00:33] <Sadin> they work but my background gets all screwed up
[00:34] <ChinnoDog> And restarting? peeps plz don't lynch me. If you installed new kernel you need to restart. If you installed new driver you need to restart X.
[00:34] <Sadin> i restarted
[00:34] <Sadin> ill try restarting again but
[00:34] <Sadin> i did already :/
[00:34] <ChinnoDog> No, you don't need to restart again
[00:35] <Sadin> ok
[00:35] <ChinnoDog> Back to what jedijf was saying. Time to check video driver problems.
[00:35] <ChinnoDog> But, you said they work aside from the background?
[00:35] <Sadin> yes
[00:35] <ChinnoDog> Then it probably isn't a video driver problem.
[00:36] <jedijf> Sadin: explain background
[00:36] <Sadin> its all white lines and black lines
[00:36] <Sadin> and fuzzy and staty
[00:36] <Sadin> staticy
[00:36] <Sadin> but the side panel and top panel appear just fine
[00:37] <Sadin> and now my second moniter just shut off on its own and reverted to single moniters
[00:38] <Sadin> ugh its all weird now when i drag a window it looks like its cloning it
[00:39] <jedijf> Sadin: i would log out, log back in to a gnome classic seesion(no effects) and see what it looks like
[00:39] <jedijf> session
[00:39] <Sadin> alright trying that now
[00:41] <Sadin> wow this looks just like the 10.10 distro
[00:41] <Sadin> and its actually working
[00:42] <jedijf> ok, just wanted to remove the unity variable
[00:42] <jedijf> Sadin: now to troubleshooting
[00:42] <jedijf> Sadin: lspci
[00:42] <Sadin> whats that?
[00:43] <jedijf> that command will list your pci devices;
[00:43] <Sadin> ok
[00:43] <jedijf> you will need your video card info to google; someone else probably has experienced and solved
[00:44] <jedijf> google your card, and unity and dual monitors
[00:44] <Sadin> ok i am now
[00:45] <pleia2> Sadin: can you email the rss feed of your blog to lyz@ubuntu.com and I'll get it added when I have a chance
[00:45] <pleia2> (running to dinner now)
[00:45] <Sadin> yeah sure :
[00:45] <Sadin> :)
[00:45] <jedijf> pleia2: it may be time to give ChinnoDog some admin powers
[00:45] <pleia2> jedijf: indeed!
[00:46] <jedijf> and me too, since most of the previous admins are out of state
[00:46] <jedijf> and we seem to be here...even though ChinnoDog keeps threatening dc
[00:47] <Sadin> jedijf :/ all there are are forums of people yelling my problem... lol no fixes
[00:47] <ChinnoDog> hehe
[00:48] <pleia2> heh, yeah bts and lamalex are the other two
[00:48] <pleia2> maine and louisiana!
[00:49] <Sadin> ugh...
[00:50] <Sadin> my card is reported to have unity and compiz issues...
[00:50] <Sadin> what do i do now...
[00:50] <Sadin> its not fixed its stilla reported bug :(
[00:50] <ChinnoDog> What kind of card do you have?
[00:50] <Sadin> Radeon x300
[00:50] <jedijf> Dual Screen wallpaper
[00:50] <jedijf> Ubuntu 11.04 has a new option for displaying wallpaper, “Span”. Time to hit up your favorite site for images that work on dual monitor setups.
[00:51] <jedijf> Sadin: try the span option, see if that fixes the unity wallpaper
[00:51] <Sadin> jedijf its not just the wallpaper
[00:51] <Sadin> when i move a window it looks like theres multiple copies of the window in a trail following wher i moved the window
[00:52] <Sadin> and they stay imprinted on the background
[00:52]  * Sadin might just try arch linux for his desktop and leave ubuntu for laptop
[00:54] <ChinnoDog> That just means it isn't redrawing
[00:54] <Sadin> :( well thats a bug
[00:55] <Sadin> unless i use ubuntu 10.10
[00:55] <Sadin> that should work
[00:56] <jedijf> or you said gnome was working, so 11.04 with gnome
[00:56] <Sadin> well how would i get it to use gnome by default
[00:59] <jedijf> login window,
[00:59] <rmg51> System/Admin/Login Screen
[00:59] <ChinnoDog> The burrito finally called loud enough. bbl
[01:15] <Sadin> Guess i gotta use Gnome till a fix for unity comes out :P
[01:20]  * rmg51 is going to wait until 11.10 comes out :-/
[01:56] <jthan> ooh boy. one second
[01:57] <jthan> there we go
[02:05] <andrew> hrm?
[02:05] <PennBot> hello andrew
[02:05] <jthan> I'm back in black
[02:06] <andrew> Oh Really?
[02:06] <jthan> Yup.
[02:07] <andrew> How's jthan been?
[02:07] <jthan> Decent. I'm ready for summer
[02:07] <andrew> one more month
[02:07] <jthan> Yeah. A long month
[02:15] <jthan> andrew: done anything exciting lately?
[02:15] <andrew> passed the lead climbing test at PRG on Friday
[02:15] <jthan> What does that entail?
[02:15] <andrew> the test?
[02:15] <PennBot> the test is a separate thing, andrew
[02:15] <jthan> Yeah - and what are the benefits of passing?
[02:16] <andrew> benefits of passing: allowed to lead climb at PRG
[02:16] <jthan> Outside?
[02:16] <PennBot> I guess Outside is pretty messy, but its mostly blowing around, jthan
[02:17] <andrew> jthan: They can't control outside
[02:17] <jthan> *shrug* I don't know what this lead climbing thing is you speak of :-P
[02:17] <andrew> PRG = philly rock gyms
[02:18] <andrew> jthan: lead climbing is where you take the rope up with you, instead of "top roping" where the rope starts anchored at the top
[02:18] <jthan> So you just climb up with no safety?
[02:19] <andrew> no, you clip in as you go
[02:19] <andrew> http://www.freewebs.com/thefirstascent2/Leadclimbingawesomepix.gif
[02:20] <jthan> I don't get the point
[02:20] <jthan> haha
[02:21] <andrew> there are often a number of routes that can't be climbed on a top rope
[02:21] <jthan> no wolfgame for you?
[02:22] <andrew> jthan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHes0dPSonE
[02:22] <PennBot> Title: YouTube - Demonstration of Lead Climbing (at www.youtube.com)
[02:23] <jthan> Fair enough.
[02:26] <andrew> last night I managed the scoreboard for a roller derby match
[02:26] <jthan> How'd that work out?
[02:26] <andrew> always glad to be doing that safely behind a cinderblock wall from the action
[02:27] <jthan> How's the cr-48
[02:27] <jthan> and how do you like 11.04?
[02:27] <corey__> hello
[02:28] <jthan> Hey corey__
[02:28] <andrew> The CR-48 is heavily used when updating the scoreboard
[02:28] <andrew> hi corey__
[02:28] <corey__> hi
[02:28] <corey__> so how is everyone?
[02:29] <jthan> Peachy
[02:29] <corey__> thats good. how long have u guys used ubuntu
[02:30] <jthan> 4 or 5 years here
[02:30] <andrew> I lost count
[02:30] <corey__> lol
[02:30] <corey__> i think ive been using it on and off for about 3 years
[02:31] <jthan> I don't know.. first version I used was Feisty
[02:31] <andrew> what number was that?
[02:31] <andrew> names have merged together
[02:31] <jthan> 7.04?
[02:31] <jthan> yup
[02:31] <andrew> sounds like it
[02:31] <corey__> yeah
[02:31] <andrew> I've got a pressed 4.10 disc around here somewhere
[02:32] <corey__> i would use it 24/7 if i could get the .exe software to work with it that i use
[02:32] <jthan> Crossover?
[02:32] <andrew> specifically?
[02:33] <corey__> i just d/l that but i play a game thats not compatable yet
[02:33] <jthan> Which game?
[02:33] <corey__> wow
[02:33] <jthan> WoW used to work rather flawlessly with wine
[02:33] <corey__> ive tries wine and crossover but i just cant get it
[02:33] <jthan> Does it work somewhat?
[02:34] <corey__> i have the installer for wow on an external drive and when i try to install it through wine it tell me some kinf od error code saying its not allowed
[02:35] <jthan> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=23352
[02:35] <PennBot> Title: WineHQ - World of Warcraft 4.1.x (at appdb.winehq.org)
[02:35] <jthan> What graphics card are you using?
[02:36] <corey__> its a ati radeon 4670 1gb ddr3
[02:39] <corey__> so wheres everyone from?
[02:40] <andrew> outside of philly
[02:40] <jthan> Bethlehem area
[02:41] <corey__> im close to williamsport\
[02:43] <andrew> Ah, I'm quite familiar with that area
[02:44] <jthan> Ya never gave me your two cents on 11.04
[02:45] <andrew> me?
[02:45] <PennBot> me is going to this tomorrow: http://www.constructionjunction.org/pages/bigpour, andrew
[02:45] <jthan> Yeah.
[02:46] <andrew> I'm getting used to it. I made a post about some basic tweaks that I made to get started (see ahotw.com)
[02:47]  * rmg51 is using Ubuntu Classic
[02:47]  * jthan is too
[02:47] <rmg51> too many things broke :P
[02:48] <jthan> andrew: typo
[02:48] <jthan> :-P
[02:48] <rmg51> wireless doesn't work on this laptop
[02:48] <corey__> i didnt like the new desktop in 11.04
[02:48] <andrew> typo?
[02:48] <corey__> lol
[02:48] <andrew> corey__: then switch back to 'ubuntu classic'
[02:48] <jthan> "a few problems arouse"
[02:49] <jthan> arose?
[02:49] <rmg51> nvidia driver is active but not in use
[02:49] <corey__> i did thats what im using now
[02:51] <andrew> jthan: fixed
[02:51] <jthan> You can thank me later
[02:51] <jthan> lol
[02:52] <andrew> Thanks for bringing up what 3+ weeks of readers didn't mention to me
[02:54] <Sadin> wow this wallpaper i made matches my theme perfectly
[02:54] <jthan> A kid I met this year at school wants to podcast with me
[02:55] <jthan> I don't know if I want to persue it
[02:55] <Sadin> http://zachsnyder.deviantart.com/#/d3gzo1w
[02:55] <PennBot> Title: ZachSnyder on deviantART (at zachsnyder.deviantart.com)
[02:55] <Sadin> :D
[02:55] <Sadin> my wallpaper
[02:55] <Sadin> :)
[02:56]  * rmg51 prefers pictures :-D
[02:57] <Sadin> lol
[03:02] <InHisName> Sadin: did you get a HD to fix last nights troubles yet?
[03:03] <Sadin> No :( no money to get a new one
[03:05] <Sadin> crap what email was i supposed to send my rss feed to so i could get added to the planet
[03:08] <andrew> 19:45:03 < pleia2> Sadin: can you email the rss feed of your blog to lyz@ubuntu.com and I'll get it added when I have a chance
[03:08] <jthan> pleia2.... what an awesome woman
[03:08] <Sadin> thank YOU
[03:16] <MutantTurkey> got my own VPS!
[03:16] <MutantTurkey> only like 10 bucks a month :)
[03:16] <MutantTurkey> just thought I would mention that.
[03:19] <jthan> Where at?
[03:20] <jthan> I always like tektonic for $15/mo
[03:20] <jthan> though it was nice when bts worked there :-P
[03:21] <Sadin> Hmmm
[03:21] <Sadin> i need to get Ruby and ruby on rails setup on my new natty install
[03:21] <jthan> What for?
[03:23] <Sadin> cause i develop with ruby and Rails
[03:23] <Sadin> :)
[03:29] <MutantTurkey> VPS forge
[03:30] <MutantTurkey> jthan: some random guys from the UK, saw a reddit add, clicked thru, 10% off. like 20 bucks for 3 months
[03:30] <jthan> do they manage dns?
[03:30] <MutantTurkey> now i just need to actually use my website for something
[03:30] <MutantTurkey> jthan: my domain hoster does.
[03:30] <MutantTurkey> i have a static IP anyways.
[03:31] <MutantTurkey> so not much to worry about
[03:31] <MutantTurkey> what should I do with my website?
[03:32] <jthan> Blog?
[03:32] <Sadin> Portfolio
[03:32] <Sadin> :D
[03:33] <Sadin> MutantTurkey what development languages you know?
[03:34] <MutantTurkey> Sadin: C
[03:34] <MutantTurkey> C, C, and C
[03:34] <MutantTurkey> jthan: I guess, I use twitter enough to micro manage my life a blog would be fruitless.
[03:34] <jthan> *shrug*
[03:34] <jthan> What else does one do with a website?
[03:34] <jthan> Play around with PHP
[03:34] <jthan> you can do some fun stuff with that.
[03:34] <Sadin> :D i know PHP
[03:35] <Sadin> and Ruby :D
[03:35] <jthan> I know HTML/CSS, PHP, C#, Bit of C/C++, and Python
[03:35] <Sadin> PHP for the win
[03:35] <Sadin> HTML/CSS too of course
[03:35] <MutantTurkey> I mean, yeah I know PHP and HTML/CSS but those aren't development languages
[03:35] <jthan> :-P
[03:35] <MutantTurkey> and damn anyone who thinks they are.
[03:36] <jthan> PHP is a development language in my eyes
[03:36] <MutantTurkey> at this point.
[03:36] <MutantTurkey> I am against applications being in the browser, and just generally against the whole cloud ideal.
[03:36] <MutantTurkey> but I digress, I need to brainstorm
[03:36] <MutantTurkey> What about using it for like some distributed computing project?
[03:37] <jthan> Such as?
[03:37] <andrew> back
[03:37] <MutantTurkey> no idea, I am on the wikipedia page right now.
[03:37] <MutantTurkey> andrew: what would you use a website for.
[03:37] <MutantTurkey> ?
[03:37] <andrew> that's a pretty broad question
[03:37] <MutantTurkey> and the answer needs to be broad also.
[03:38] <andrew> What would I use a website for? I use websites for reading my email, checking the news, viewing semi-live weather maps, watching movies, showing off my photos, etc
[03:39] <MutantTurkey> maybe a bit to broad.
[03:39] <MutantTurkey> what would you use a website that YOU hosted for
[03:39] <MutantTurkey> well, frankley pictures is a good idea.
[03:39] <MutantTurkey> frankly
[03:39] <MutantTurkey> not frankey-ly
[03:41] <jthan> MutantTurkey: challenge yourself - make a page that is dynamic and has lots of self-updating content
[03:42] <MutantTurkey> yeah, I hate that.
[03:42] <jthan> Why?
[03:42] <MutantTurkey> because It's bloat
[03:42] <jthan> But can be entirely useful?
[03:42] <MutantTurkey> I like static web pages.
[03:42] <MutantTurkey> Indeed it can, but doing it for the sake of doing it becomes bloated.
[03:42] <jthan> Yeah - sure. But it would be a good project?
[03:43] <jthan> You don't have any better ideas, do you?
[03:43] <MutantTurkey> not at all.
[03:43] <MutantTurkey> Not at all.
[03:43] <MutantTurkey> I have no ideas.
[03:43] <MutantTurkey> Dynamically generated content hrmmm.
[03:50] <Sadin> MutantTurkey you gotta think of what you want people to do when they visit your site
[03:50] <MutantTurkey> watch kittens jump on a black guys head while he freaks out.
[03:51] <MutantTurkey> with random upbeat polka playing along
[03:51] <Sadin> Try making a blog/contact site where users can post emails to you using a contact form simple enough...
[03:51] <Sadin> and lol
[03:51] <jthan> Make a message board
[03:51] <Sadin> oh im making an ubuntu background and id like to hear peoples opinions when im done
[03:52] <MutantTurkey> Sadin: I would like to see
[03:52] <MutantTurkey> also, no point reinventing the wheel
[03:54] <Sadin> whos reinventing the wheel
[03:54] <Sadin> it really isnt
[03:54] <MutantTurkey> making a blog, been done. making a site where users can contact through a form. done.
[03:54] <Sadin> discussion board done
[03:54] <MutantTurkey> exactly.
[03:55] <Sadin> lol what else is there the point is its yours your not reinventing the wheel if you make it your original style
[03:55] <MutantTurkey> yeah I suppose.
[04:45] <ChinnoDog> I have too many computers
[04:45] <ChinnoDog> I need to start putting expiration dates on them or something
[04:47] <Sadin> i need to re install xp on my desktop :(
[04:47]  * Sadin cries
[04:48] <ChinnoDog> Find some app you can't live without?
[04:48] <Sadin> actually for schoolwork yes ;/
[04:49] <ChinnoDog> I'd offer you my old computer so you could harvest its hard drive but is probably about the same price to go to Microcenter and get a cheap hard drive.
[04:49] <Sadin> link me to microcenter?
[04:49] <ChinnoDog> If you can't run it under wine you can always dual boot or, if you have enough memory, run it in a virtual PC.
[04:50] <ChinnoDog> http://www.microcenter.com/
[04:50] <Sadin> not enough memory
[04:50] <PennBot> Title: Micro Center - Computers, Electronics, Computer Parts, Networking, Gaming, Software, and more! (at www.microcenter.com)
[04:50] <Sadin> :(
[04:50] <ChinnoDog> I don't think their unpackaged hard drives are on the site
[04:51] <Sadin> i found a 25$ pata which would work fine
[04:51] <ChinnoDog> If you want a hard disk you walk into the section with the hard drives and you will see open boxes of hard disks in antistatic bags. They are bulk drives, not individually boxed, cheaper than the others.
[04:51] <Sadin> im keeping Ubuntu on my laptop just not on my desktop
[04:53] <ChinnoDog> If you use Synergy you can sit at your desktop with your laptop open and use both from one keyboard and mouse
[04:55] <Sadin> D: ah so many things being throw at me what is that?
[04:56] <Sadin> oh ChinnoDog would you like to see the backgroun i made to match my current ubuntu theme
[04:57] <ChinnoDog> I saw it. B&W?
[04:57] <Sadin> this? http://zachsnyder.deviantart.com/#/d3gzo1w
[04:57] <PennBot> Title: ZachSnyder on deviantART (at zachsnyder.deviantart.com)
[04:57] <ChinnoDog> Yes that one
[04:58] <Sadin> its got 14 downloads already and has only been up for an hour
[04:58] <Sadin> :)
[04:58] <ChinnoDog> Synergy is a console sharing program. It sends mouse movements and keyboard strokes over the network so you can control another computer
[04:58] <ChinnoDog> Each computer still has to have its own monitor(s) though
[04:59] <Sadin> sounds amazing
[04:59] <ChinnoDog> I use Synergy+, which is a fork of synergy that some peeps decided they would improve/mantain
[04:59] <Sadin> im theming ubuntu while XP re downloads
[04:59] <ChinnoDog> oh. I forgot, synergy+ merged back into the tree. http://synergy-foss.org/
[05:00] <PennBot> Title: Welcome - Synergy (at synergy-foss.org)
[05:00] <ChinnoDog> I need a shower. bbiab
[05:25] <Sadin> im going to bed i feel sick
[05:25] <Sadin> :/
[05:25] <Sadin> night evryone
[06:32] <ChinnoDog> I forgot to come back. oops
[06:32] <ChinnoDog> sheep counting time
[10:54] <JonathanD> Good day.
[11:09] <rmg51> it's Monday, what's so good about that? :P
[11:10] <rmg51> but anyhow.... morning JonathanD
[11:10] <JonathanD> Morning :)
[12:16] <SamuraiAlba> good bacon to all!
[12:16] <SamuraiAlba> I am now an official college student!  Classes start August 31st at Camden/Blackwood campus!
[12:17] <JonathanD> sweet
[12:19] <SamuraiAlba> Computer Information Systems, Associate in Applied Science degree.  Two year course.  I'm gonna transfer to Rown at the end and go for my B.A.S.
[15:03] <InHisName> Great MONDAY morning to all of you out there.
[15:19] <Sadin> :O cool i can access freenode at school
[15:23] <andrew> for up to 3 minutes
[15:26] <InHisName> Then maybe have to wait for another period to get another 3 minutes
[17:04] <InHisName> @later tell SamuraiAlba here is a bacon picture for you to help celabrate getting school scheduled --> http://www.scalzi.com/cattapebacon2.jpg
[17:04] <PennBot> InHisName: The operation succeeded.
[18:20] <waltman> that's mean!
[19:05] <InHisName> What is set up as default in windows box that I can probe ?    I tried ping, yes, ssh, telnet, ftp, rdp, shar folder, None of those.    Any other defaults besides ping ?
[19:08] <jedijf> InHisName: do you mean out of a windows box, or into a windows box...in windows you can netstat -a
[19:13] <InHisName> I'm in a linux box and want to see what person has vulneralble on their windows box.  I have IP and pings so far.  Not stealthed.
[19:14] <jedijf> InHisName: nmap
[19:14] <InHisName> So some ports are open, so what defaults can I test for ?   (other ports)
[19:14] <InHisName> k
[19:15] <InHisName> that takes a while to run ?
[19:15] <InHisName> Gave me a starting date/ time
[19:16] <jedijf> yes and read this: http://nmap.org/book/man.html
[19:16] <PennBot> Title: Chapter 15. Nmap Reference Guide (at nmap.org)
[19:17] <InHisName> finished in 101 seconds
[19:33] <InHisName> I guess he's somewhat safe ?   6 items found but all filtered not open.
[21:34] <ChinnoDog> @crickets
[21:34] <PennBot> http://www.instantcrickets.com
[21:54] <ChinnoDog> hello Sadin
[21:54] <Sadin> hi ChinnoDog :)
[21:56] <Sadin> ChinnoDog: I updated my blog and theres a screenshot of my ubuntu laptop on there if you want to check it out
[21:56] <Sadin> http://sparkz.exofire.net/?p=57
[21:56] <PennBot> Title: Linux OS selection (at sparkz.exofire.net)
[21:59] <ChinnoDog> I see. Your background looks.. gritty
[22:00] <Sadin> I really like it
[22:01] <Sadin> Found it in one of my friends galleries in the minimal desktop customizers group on deviantart
[22:01] <ChinnoDog> You could skin a knee on that background
[22:01] <Sadin> lol
[22:11]  * Sadin is still looking for a hard drive while working on his chem project
[22:19] <InHisName> Sadin: you don't need much in a HD, how come none haven't fallen from the sky upon you, yet?
[22:19] <InHisName> Where do you live in PA?
[22:19] <InHisName> aren't you near Reading ?
[22:19] <Sadin> InHisName because im the only techy i know and i dont have a job still looking for one so i can pay for my car insurence
[22:19] <Sadin> yeah
[22:19] <Sadin> im in Douglassville
[22:22] <InHisName> Close to all of us in Philly end of state.  No one's offered to toss one your way?
[22:22] <InHisName> Just need to know next turnip truck to send it on.....
[22:23] <Sadin> ChinnoDog said he would have but he didnt know i needed one so he got rid of em all the day before lol
[22:23] <Sadin> If you do send one i would be very grateful :)
[22:24] <InHisName> Are there any turnip truck commuters going up and down 422 ?
[22:24] <ChinnoDog> Not the day before, a few weeks ago.
[22:25] <InHisName> I have no job so no commuting at present.
[22:25] <jedijf> i was in limerick thurs & fri
[22:26] <InHisName> jedijf: you coulda left one of those old lappys under a tree for Sadin to discover.
[22:26] <jedijf> Sadin: in the evnt i have one, what size were you looking for?
[22:26]  * jedijf thinks he has a few 6 gigs
[22:27] <Sadin> i just need something small to load ubuntu server on for my desktop
[22:27] <Sadin> 6gb would be more then plenty since its only going to hold basic HTML PHP and CSS files
[22:28] <jedijf> k, let me check office tomorrow, i pulled a few recently
[22:28] <jedijf> unlike ChinnoDog, i hoard tech
[22:29] <ChinnoDog> Yea, I don't have time/space/money/energy to be a pack rat right now
[22:29] <ChinnoDog> Look, 40gb hard drive for $16.87 with free shipping: http://www.pcprogress.com/product.asp?m1=pw&pid=WL40ATA100-54
[22:29] <PennBot> Title: PCPROGRESS.com (at www.pcprogress.com)
[22:31] <ChinnoDog> Oh. This one is better. $17.35 with free shipping and it is a seagate. http://www.goharddrive.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=G01-0258&Click=46406
[22:31] <PennBot> Title: Seagate U Series 5 AV ST340825A 40GB IDE 5400RPM 2MB cache Hard Drive Pull -w/ 1 year Warranty (at www.goharddrive.com)
[22:31] <Sadin> Saving all money for a car my dads taking me to get my permit in a few days
[22:31] <Sadin> :D so excited
[22:32] <Sadin> Oh plus i need one thats Pata compatible if you have one jedijf
[22:33] <ChinnoDog> You won't be finding 6gb hard drives that are sata.
[22:33] <ChinnoDog> IF you have a spare USB flash drive and your server will boot to USB you could install Ubuntu on there.
[22:34] <ChinnoDog> Install onto btrfs with compression enabled and get a lot more space.
[22:35] <Sadin> Alright well my only flashdrive is for school work :/ ive looked into that and believe me i would if i could
[22:44] <ChinnoDog> 8gb flash drives are $13 after shipping on NewEgg.
[22:45] <ChinnoDog> Actually you could run server on 4 comfortably I think. That is $8 after shipping.
[22:49] <Sadin> The bios wouldnt detect my flashdrive anyway :O
[22:50] <ChinnoDog> doh
[22:50] <Sadin> but thats a deal so im going to ask for one
[22:50] <Sadin> when i get the money im have my dad use his credit card
[22:50] <ChinnoDog> But it won't help you with your server.
[22:50] <Sadin> i guess ;/
[22:52] <ChinnoDog> Microcenter appears to have them for same price
[22:53] <ChinnoDog> How far are you from Microcenter? 30min?
[22:53] <Sadin> Anyway i had a tower which it ran fine and then i stopped using it cause it was loud and noisy i decided to take it back out and reinstall server
[22:53] <Sadin> on it but it wouldnt detect the HD. Our town had its local yardsale 2 days ago so i bought a junker toer that only needed ram Powersupply and a HD
[22:53] <Sadin> which i had all of those so i swapped em all out and tried this new tower and it started up just fine... it detected the HD as its primary drive in the bios setup
[22:53] <Sadin> but when i tried to run startup it said primary IDE not detected D:
[22:54] <Sadin> so its confusing me
[22:54] <ChinnoDog> explain "run startup"
[22:58] <Sadin> before OS loads i hit F10 and it brought me into the configuration settings so i decided to check to see if it detected my HD unlike the other one and it said
[22:58] <Sadin> the exact brand of the HD, PATA, and 40GB all correct info
[23:05] <jedijf> Sadin: do you have an install cd? try booting with that and installing and seeing if the livecd 'sees' teh hd to install upon
[23:06] <Sadin> ok i will later tonight i need to finish writing a chemistry report for Wednesday  :) haha ill make an ubuntu CD and try it. Even if i had startup order set to usb first
[23:06] <Sadin> the system didnt see my ubuntu usb
[23:06] <Sadin> just throwin that out there