=== Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [00:24] is there a way to only have the panel displayed on only one of my desktops? [00:27] preecher: virtual desktops? no [00:28] James147 thanks [00:41] hi, anyone who uses deadbeef ? [00:44] !anyone [00:44] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. === Guest36838 is now known as ssfdre38 [01:42] hi boys. i am having an issue with wireless in kubuntu 11.04. i can connect for about 5 minutes and then it gets disconnected and the network manager thingy tries to reconnect and gets stuck on "configuring interface". if i restart the computer, it connects again for 5 minutes [01:42] does anybody have any ideas? [01:45] anyone running natty on nvidia and getting the "input signal out of range" during boot and shutdown? or able to help with it === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [02:11] Hello, I could use a little help with Bluetooth when someone has a second [02:11] please and thank you [02:12] Basically, bluetooth is not starting at boot [02:13] If i go into a terminal and restart it everything works fine. [02:13] but I prefer not to have to do that every time. [02:13] On on 11.04, fresh install. [02:17] there is no /etc/default/bluetooth file. [02:17] or do you not need that for KDE? [02:38] kevinJ: what commands do you use to restart bluetooth? [02:39] hi i need help with this : error hd1,1 out of disk [02:39] grub rescue> === ubuntu is now known as Amelie === mau is now known as Guest62225 [02:52] So I think I hit an interesting snag (ok maybe not that interesting to you guys) [02:52] should i use wubi or dual boot? [02:52] hit up http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block to download a copy of Kubuntu, and after having the version and 32-bit I wanted, I clicked Begin Download.. but nothing happens under Chrome. Under IE everything works fine... [02:53] last dual boot i did ended in grub being currupted and having to send computer to be repaired [02:54] Programmer_: I prefer to dual boot. [02:54] yeah me too, but after last experience, i dont wanna risk it [02:54] You should not have to send a computer in to repair grub [02:54] i was too lazy to do it myself [02:54] lol [02:55] rjr162: I try to stay away from Chrome. It was nice at the start but is too much a pain. In windows I use IE9 and on linux I use firefox [02:55] but yeah. windows has some features i need. therefore i wont have to use wine either [02:56] i dont like windows tbh [02:56] What features are those? [02:56] nor do I [02:56] video stuff and disk writing stuff [02:56] As in authoring? [02:57] no [02:57] anyway, my linux partition isnt that big, and if wubi isnt working out, ill just dual boot [02:57] I've been dual booting 7 and kubuntu quite successfully [02:58] Unit193: Yes I do [02:58] kerr i might [02:58] i just dont like switching between the too [02:58] especially since my battery doesnt work [02:58] can i hibernate linux and switch to windows? [03:00] Nope [03:00] KerrMD: Ok just ignore my comment :) After checking with Opera, IE, and Chrome Canary.. it worked in all of those. Went back to Chrome Dev and it's working now (after the first 7 do nothing attempts) [03:00] Well, I am not entirely sure [03:00] but I doubt it [03:00] you should be able to [03:00] hmmm [03:00] plus i like having microsoft office and adobe suites [03:01] hibernate just stores RAM onto the swap partition, as windows doesn't do anything with swap, it should be possible [03:01] I'm not up on my hibernation. [03:01] doesn't hibernate write to swap, suspend holds in ram [03:01] i have to use hibernate since i dont have a battery for this laptop [03:02] I've never tried to hibernate and boot into windows, but that's mostly because I wiped windows out the day I got the PC [03:02] errr i mis-read that line tsimpson, my bad :) I'll butt out now [03:03] tsimpson i did that on this laptop, but i got a free version of windows with office on it, so why not utilize it? [03:03] well, I don't think MS Office is a reason to stick with windows. most linux office apps can read and write MS Office formats [03:04] True [03:04] Libre office for one [03:04] but, if there is something you need, that is only on windows, then that's a perfectly valid reason to keep windows [03:04] to an extent though. There's some stuff you can do in Office 2007+ that explodes in OO.O/Libre [03:05] I'd rather not ever touch windows, but I'm not one of those zealots that condemns anyone for feeling differently ;) [03:05] And Libre/OpenOffice don't read/write those formats very well [03:05] MS Office reads and writes to ODF just fine, stick with that :) [03:06] who knew "text" documents would get so complicated [03:06] +1 ^^ [03:06] if you don't want to dual boot, and need the windows, you could always do something like a VMware Player/VirtualPC/VirtualBox setup (while not the best/most ideal solution) [03:07] There are ways to make a windows live dvd as well. It can even be run from a usb thumb drive [03:07] haha no kidding. The header I did up on my resume.. OpenOffice doesn't like it (nor does Google Docs or versions of Word older than 2007). So I send it as a PDF [03:14] rjr162> to an extent though. There's some stuff you can do in Office 2007+ that explodes in OO.O/Libre [03:14] ^ i failed a project because it didnt write in ms format correctly [03:15] I'd rather not ever touch windows, but I'm not one of those zealots that condemns anyone for feeling differently ;) [03:15] i hate windows, myself...but i like adobe suites [03:16] plus for some reason, i cant usb tether my phone on linux [03:22] Programmer: That's where the WiFi access point mode comes in handy (if it's available) :) [03:22] How do I get my ipod working with amaok? [03:22] I dont have any media support installed... [03:23] heh [03:23] Does anyone know what the amarok device plugin package is called? [03:23] I saw something called exaile... [03:23] Exaile is a GTK player modeled after Amarok [03:23] not sure it's an actual fork, don't think it is [03:24] uhhh why would I use a gtk app in KDE? [03:24] !ipod [03:24] For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod [03:24] my understandingi s amarok is suppose to have support in Amarok? [03:24] maybe some info ^ there [03:24] pastyhermit: I didn't say you should? [03:25] I was saying it has nothing to do with Amarok [03:26] Fluttershy: I was reading some docks about ... some media devices plugin but when I go to configure Amarok I dont see that option. [03:51] tsimpson: followed the link, I see the plugins in amarok but my ipod still doesnt show up [04:08] ok, how bout this then, anyone know why it says that my driver is activated but not in use? [04:10] toes [04:28] does anyone know how to start the run command interface after it has crashed? === kcaval is now known as fraggy [04:44] dan__: do you mean at boot time, or other? [04:44] Rosco_y: while already in the desktop. [04:45] I was playing with the plugins [04:45] And I crashed it. But I really can't boot down at the moment. [04:46] most computers will shutdown if you hold their power button for 5 seconds. This may not be your best option at the moment.... [04:47] you might be able to login to a command shell by pressing CTL+ALT+F2 (but wait before you do) [04:48] then, to get back to where you are right now, you press CTL+ALT+F7 [04:59] Alt-F7 is all you need. The CTL key modifier is only needed in X. [05:29] let's see [05:29] i'm supposed to say anyone here several times, get frustrated at the lack of service, then leave in a hissy, right? [05:30] ZeDingo: Patience ... [05:30] i'm having a very strange problem [05:30] my mouse hangs on the volume icon down in the tray [05:30] and just a bit above it [05:30] but ONLY if i'm moving my mouse to the left [05:31] ZeDingo: Ask your quesstion and if someone knows the answer, that will answer ... [05:31] also my graphics are laggy but the joy of learning a new OS is learning to optimize it [05:32] ZeDingo: if you don't mind propritary drivers, click on "additional drivers" in the menu somewhere and maybe that will fix your issues ... [05:33] i'm using the ATI drivers straight from their site. fglrx through kpackage didn't install right [05:37] hey guys, im a long time ubuntu/gnome user and i just switched to kubuntu to try it out [05:37] i am having difficulties with performance.... any tips [05:40] i'm having similar problems bruce lol [05:40] applying every windows 7 optimization trick i can think of to see if it works [05:45] turning off all desktop effects fixed video [05:45] piece of crap radeon =\ [05:50] hey androidbruce [05:50] try turning off the blur special effect [05:51] some graphics cards/drivers have trouble with that one [05:52] ZeDingo: I have a radeon, and the only effect I have to turn off is blur [05:52] although most of them I think are silly [05:52] who wants wobbly windows? not me [05:52] i just tried that, seems to run video fine with effects on and blur off [05:52] thanks [05:52] moving to Xrender helped the most [05:53] I had weird little things wrong until I did that [05:53] and it's not just my mouse freezing when i move it across the volume icon [05:53] video freezes too [05:53] that's very strange [05:54] it's like it's trying to display a tooltip or popup [05:55] that sounds like it's worth a bugreport [05:55] are you using kmix, or veromix? [05:57] you might try unlocking your widgets and just remove it [05:57] try veromix instead [05:58] dropped the task manager off my taskbar so the tray moved [05:58] it's not the volume icon but that specific spot on my screen [05:58] I've never heard of that happening before [05:58] now that i explore it more, it's like a rectangle that traps the mouse [05:59] unless you've spent a lot of time on your system tray [05:59] I'd delete that one entirely [05:59] and then create a new one [05:59] it's just another widget [06:00] i have no idea what i'm using [06:00] whatever comes in the kubuntu iso [06:00] right [06:00] it sounds like it is damaged in some way [06:01] nothing should "capture" your mouse pointer [06:01] ever [06:01] i killed kmix, still doing it [06:02] it's like a rectangle that's in the bottom right, goes up above the taskbar a bit [06:02] it catches if i try to move up or left out of the rect [06:02] never seen a computer do this lol [06:03] I've never heard of it [06:05] gonna try rebooting [06:05] though it won't tell me what's causing the problem [06:08] valorie, sorry i just rebooted into my ubuntu drive [06:08] valorie, Xorg is hogging all of my cpu in 11.94 [06:08] valorie, Xorg is hogging all of my cpu in kubuntu 11.04 valorie [06:09] androidbruce: are you on a laptop? [06:10] c2tarun, no sir [06:10] c2tarun, an older machine but fully functional with gnome [06:10] 9500gt [06:10] core2duo 2.4ghz, 4gb ram [06:11] androidbruce: well, I also faced this problem of getting system very slow then I thought Xorg is eating my CPU, but then I changed my heat sink and it solved the problem. But it might not be the case with you. [06:11] my machine is very cool. cpu is at 30C === phoenix is now known as Guest6384 [06:12] androidbruce: hang around, someone will help :) [06:13] androidbruce>trade cpus with ya [06:14] lol Magnusson [06:14] :) [06:14] for speed or temp? [06:16] androidbruce: if Xorg is hogging all cpu, it could be buggy graphics driver [06:16] welp, it's doing the same mouse catch box on the login screen [06:17] androidbruce: do you have effects enabled? [06:17] Tm_T, yeah i tried the latest nvidia driver and it borked my xorg config b/c it was the wrong driver for the kernel [06:17] ZeDingo: are you saying about your mouse being captured to drag mode? [06:17] Tm_T, desktop effects make no difference [06:18] Tm_T, i read that it seemed to be a driver issue with nvidia [06:18] androidbruce>prob both hehe [06:18] c2tarun, no i'm saying there's an invisible rectangle in the bottom right corner and when i try to move my mouse out of it, the graphics hang for a second or two [06:18] androidbruce: did you have same issue with nouveau drivers? (as in, opensource drivers) [06:18] ZeDingo: ghost :( (sorry I thought something else) [06:19] ah [06:19] Tm_T, didn't change [06:19] Tm_T, out of the box it was bad [06:20] can i get the same experience if i just install kde as an alternative desktop environment in ubuntu? [06:20] gonna put gnome on here and see if it does it there too [06:20] did you just install KDE-desktop on top of Ubuntu? [06:20] valorie, nooo [06:20] androidbruce: ^^^ [06:20] fresh install? [06:20] valorie, installed fresh to one of my drives in my machine [06:20] yes [06:21] and you verified the ISO? [06:21] valorie>how long have you been using these networks? i used to know someone with your name YEEARS ago [06:21] hmm well i had no errors on the install [06:21] valorie, i don't believe it's the iso [06:22] Magnusson: freenode only about 18 months [06:22] IRC, maybe 10 years [06:22] formerly dalnet? [06:22] nope, sorry [06:22] never did dalnet [06:22] my spelling of the name is rare [06:23] ah [06:23] I've never met anyone in IRC using it [06:23] i wanted to give kubuntu a good shot boy did it just fail [06:23] :( [06:23] that sucks [06:23] did the live CD work well? [06:23] androidbruce: if it's issue with binary drivers of nvidia: it has little or nothing to do with Kubuntu [06:24] Tm_T, yah true.... but ubuntu has no issues like that ;) [06:24] valorie, i suppose [06:24] androidbruce: just a suggestion, if possible try removing nvidia card and then using system for few hours. [06:25] c2tarun, ehh yeah that's possible. but why would i use onboard junk if i can use a 1gb card with quality 3d accel? [06:25] it seems like kubuntu didn't install the latest nvidia driver/kernel module [06:25] when ubuntu did [06:25] androidbruce: you tried looking into addtitional drivers? [06:25] vlc crashes [06:26] c2tarun, yeah i got the binary from nvidia. the same version im using now and it borked my xorg config b/c it was a kernel mismatch [06:26] i see how kde has potential to be a killer ui [06:27] androidbruce: lolss :) [06:27] im going to install it on my laptop right now [06:27] to see how it performs [06:27] any tips? [06:28] androidbruce: try not to share your home folder with other distros. make it separate. [06:29] frsh install here [06:30] well I guess you are not getting what I am trying to say :) never mind, shared home folder always suks.... just install simply. [06:30] ahh yeah yeah i see what you mean [06:30] im checking the disc for defects first [06:32] anyone give any tips on moving from gnome to kubuntu? [06:32] or kde more respectively [06:33] i noticed that to switch workspaces you hit ctrl+f1, f2,f3.... anyway to change that to ctrl+alt+right arrow, left arrow? [06:34] shortcuts and gestures in system settings i think [06:34] how does compiz work with kubuntu? [06:34] or does it? [06:37] yes, some people use it [06:37] I'm not sure why [06:37] kwin is native to KDE [06:37] compiz isn't [06:38] oh, you got the binary from nvidia? [06:38] kwin has the same features? [06:38] that is NOT a good idea [06:38] use jockey-KDE [06:38] how so [06:38] why is that a bad idea? [06:38] you just saw - kernel mismatch [06:38] i got the drive from nvidia when i had issues [06:39] just like in gnome/ubuntu, jockey will suggest appropriate drivers [06:39] and do i run jockey myself? [06:40] yes [06:40] I ran it from the kmenu [06:41] ok [06:41] how do i connect to my wifi from the installer so it will download the packages on install [06:41] androidbruce: try to remove the driver you installed manually. [06:41] i saw no option to do so [06:41] c2tarun, i already formatted that drive, im installing on my laptop now [06:41] i want to "test" this on my laptop [06:41] then run on my machine [06:42] i use my desktop as a server too, so i need a functioning machine [06:42] i wish ubuntu/kubuntu would ship with chrome [06:43] androidbruce: why are you trying to connect to wifi during installation? install it first and then connect. [06:43] yeah i would like it to download packages in the first install [06:43] such as mp3, fluendo etc [06:43] it's ok ill download later [06:44] androidbruce: I dont know about wifi but you can try wired connection [06:44] yeah it's not a big deal [06:44] how close to ubuntu is kubuntu? [06:44] siblings ;) [06:44] same packages? [06:44] yup [06:44] ok [06:44] cool [06:45] what do you guys use for a dock? i use docky in ubuntu [06:45] what's a dock? [06:46] androidbruce: well kubuntu has plasmoids, which are better then docs [06:46] I've heard of docky, but have no clue what it is [06:46] application manager/launcher [06:46] ah [06:46] I like the system tray, but there are other ways of setting stuff up, I guess [06:46] valorie, http://i.imgur.com/vzZef.png [06:46] I like out of the box, mostly [06:47] so 4.5.5 was a big change eh? [06:48] i like that this room isn't HUGE! and it's manageable to talk to people [06:48] yeah, #ubuntu is vry crowdy [06:48] http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/24/plasma-desktopNH1662.jpg is my desktop atm [06:49] valorie: nice playlist :) [06:49] I dunno -- I'm on kde 4.6.3 [06:49] can't really remember 4.5.5 [06:50] c2tarun: lastfm valoriez [06:50] 4.6.3? [06:50] is that was ships with 11.04? [06:50] yes [06:50] ohhhh ok [06:50] and no, it wasn't much of a change [06:50] here comes first boot on the lappy! [06:50] lets see what happens [06:50] :-D [06:51] you nut, you didn't even try with the liveCD? [06:51] that was fast, are you using CD or pen drive? [06:51] that was cd btw [06:51] no i didn't try live [06:51] this better WORK [06:51] like ubuntu did [06:51] if it doesn't, then im mad [06:51] I often skip that step too [06:51] but it isn't wise [06:52] ahhh this is better [06:52] why was xorg such a whore on my Desktop? [06:52] um, language [06:52] sorry sorry [06:52] why was it being so weighty [06:52] androidbruce: may be ur deskop feeding it well ;) [06:53] lol [06:53] good question, and it probably would take some digging to find out why [06:53] weird though [06:53] my Desktop is much faster than my lappy [06:53] and i know the drive i installed it on is fine [06:53] androidbruce: try using jockey this time [06:53] is there something similar to the windows task manager? [06:53] i think kpackage is running somewhere halfhidden [06:53] try Ctrl + esc [06:54] ZeDingo: ^^ [06:54] valorie, where is my wifi/network manager? [06:54] thankies [06:54] got iy [06:54] it** [06:55] no proprietary drivers in use on this system [06:55] is that good? no nvidia drivers needed eh? [06:55] androidbruce: try running sudo apt-get update first [06:55] * c2tarun though its not compulsory [06:56] yeah word one sec [06:56] this is so smooth o [06:56] i want this on my DESKTOP! [06:56] welcome to KDE :) [06:56] bah [06:56] killer desktop env ;) [06:57] yah, so mad it was whack on the desktop [06:57] just did an update, now doing an upgrade [06:58] valorie, now i need to learn how to use amarok ;) [06:58] just mess with it [06:58] the ui is a little wonky ootb [06:58] or http://userbase.kde.org/Amarok/Manual [06:59] ui is uber-configurable [06:59] * c2tarun prefers messing with amarok, it wont bite ;)) [07:00] im so used to banshee and rhythmbox [07:00] ill try to configure amarok [07:00] i want it to look like banshee if possible [07:00] androidbruce: I think rhytmbox should work on kubuntu. [07:01] yeah [07:01] ohhhh so no ubuntuone with kubuntu? [07:01] androidbruce: you may want to take a look at clementine also. [07:01] jussi, clementine? music plater? [07:01] androidbruce: you can use the gnome client (I do) [07:01] !info clementine [07:02] Package clementine does not exist in maverick [07:02] really? the gnome client no longer works for me [07:02] oh maverick huh [07:02] lemme fix you silly bot [07:02] someone is fixing the ubuntuone again, though [07:02] valorie: Its working finr here. [07:02] damn devels and their changeable api [07:02] cool [07:02] won't even start for me [07:02] i love guake, so im install yakuake [07:02] I have to use it on the web [07:03] dropbox works, though [07:03] !info plasma-widget-daisy [07:03] plasma-widget-daisy (source: plasma-widget-daisy): Simple application launcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.4.23-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 284 kB, installed size 788 kB [07:03] androidbruce: ^^ [07:03] for your docky replacement [07:03] jussi, yea? lemme see [07:04] jussi, whoa this is wild [07:04] circle launcher eh? [07:05] yeah, you can have a circle launcher if you like [07:05] its pretty configuarable [07:05] jussi, not bad [07:05] it's nice [07:06] so here is a question [07:06] i don't want the default panel to manage the windows [07:06] !info clementine natty [07:06] clementine (source: clementine): Modern music player and library organiser inspired by Amarok 1.4. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 4142 kB, installed size 9780 kB [07:06] i want the dock to manage the windows [07:06] make sense? [07:06] androidbruce: so remove the plasmoid in the default panel (right click on it) [07:07] ok.... then go to taskmanager settings? [07:07] no, there should be a "remove this $plasmoid" [07:07] remove this taks manager? [07:07] ahhhh ok [07:07] yes [07:07] whoa [07:08] now i need to move klipper and wifi and volume etc back to the right [07:09] yeah, you probably need to add the spacer [07:09] right clik, panel settings, add spacer [07:09] ah yes [07:10] gotcha thanks jussi [07:10] yw [07:11] androidbruce: if you arent there already, do join us in #kubuntu-offtopic - we can be a little more "chatty" there. :) [07:46]