[01:39] <flaccid> interesting question. how can i find out the latest AKI for ubuntu 10.04 official ?
[01:43] <erichammond> flaccid: It depends on the region and architecture
[01:44] <erichammond> The latest 32-bit us-east-1 Ubuntu 10.04 is ami-06ad526f.  An ec2-describe-images shows the kernel as: aki-407d9529
[01:45] <erichammond> Recent Ubuntu AMIs use a PV AKI and load the actual kernel code from the AMI.
[01:45] <erichammond> This lets you upgrade in place and not have to switch to a new AMI/AKI for reboots and the like.
[01:46] <flaccid> how did you work out that it was the latest AMI?
[01:47] <erichammond> flaccid: There's this web site that lists all of the latest Ubuntu AMIs in a table at the top of the home page: http://alestic.com
[01:47] <erichammond> :)
[01:47] <flaccid> sure and how did you create that list?
[01:48] <erichammond> Or you can query it dynamically (same as I do on Alestic.com) through URLs like: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/query/natty/server/released.current.txt
[01:48] <erichammond> Ah, that even lists the AKI ids.
[01:48] <flaccid> or http://cloud.ubuntu.com/ami/ might be suffice
[01:48] <erichammond> Yep.  All depends on how you like finding things
[01:49] <flaccid> there is only 1 edition built and published, 'ubuntu server' ?
[01:50] <erichammond> flaccid: I don't understand the question.
[01:50] <flaccid> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/query/lucid/server/released.current.txt
[01:50] <flaccid> has 'server' in url
[01:50] <flaccid> and 2nd column
[01:50] <flaccid> http://cloud.ubuntu.com/ami/ does not have such a column or ref
[01:51] <erichammond> Ubuntu currently publishes server images for official release.
[01:51] <flaccid> ok thanks very much
[01:51] <erichammond> They have desktop images that are build daily but are not officially supported.
[01:51] <erichammond> yet
[01:51] <flaccid> i see
[01:52] <erichammond> Ubuntu server for EC2/UEC is very slightly different from Ubuntu server you can download. It has the cloud-init package and some other tweaks to make it work well in the EC2/UEC environments.
[01:52] <flaccid> ack
[01:53] <erichammond> er, different from the Ubuntu server you can download from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[01:53] <flaccid> happy to hear that UEC is getting rid of euca
[01:54] <erichammond> You can also download the EC2/UEC images themselves from places like http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/natty/current/natty-server-uec-amd64.tar.gz
[01:55] <erichammond> I use those downloadable images to build custom Ubuntu AMIs.
[02:34] <flaccid> cool thanks erichammond
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[10:52] <safinaskar> how to use ubuntu in the cloud??? i opened 10.cloud.ubuntu.com, but i don't see button to enter cloud ubuntu machine. i done all instructions: i created launchpad account and i imported ssh key
[11:02] <safinaskar> HOW TO ENTER CLOUD MACHINE VIA WEB-INTERFACE??????
[11:43] <kim0> doh .. too bad he didn't wait
[12:50] <koolhead11> meep ..
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[17:50] <smoser> Daviey, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-o-openstack-book
[17:52] <smoser> so why do you think having docs packaged is bad ?
[17:52] <smoser> i *really* like that i can apt-get install <package>-doc and then go on a plane
[17:53] <smoser> and this conversation illustrates very well why i think that blueprints suck for conversation as there is no evidence on that page that usch a conversation ever occurred.
[17:53] <smoser> kim0, ^
[17:53] <kim0> yeah
[17:54] <kim0> I'm not strongly for or against ..
[17:54] <kim0> generating a pdf and making it available online is good enough for me
[17:55] <smoser> kim0, but that is completely *not* what we do with almost every thing else
[17:57] <smoser> that argument would imply that http://manpages.ubuntu.com/ would be enough
[17:57] <smoser> and we should not package man pages
[17:57] <smoser> which is obviously asinine
[17:57] <kim0> should we start a public thread on should be made available offline and what shouldn't
[17:58] <smoser> i dont really know how to address it.
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[17:58] <smoser> but it is very difficult in an online format to address the fact that there are multiple different versions in different versions of Ubuntu and those *need* different doc
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[17:59] <kim0> yeah, this can get complex
[18:01] <kim0> I think it's probably best to discuss on the server list
[18:04] <Daviey> smoser: Why is apt-get > wget http://*.pdf ?
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[18:20] <smoser> one is discoverable, one is not
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