| jjohansen | hggdh: confirmed | 00:13 |
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| hggdh | jjohansen: should I open a bug for that? | 00:15 |
| jjohansen | hggdh: no not yet, I'll poke at it or at the least poke smb when he comes on | 00:16 |
| hggdh | jjohansen: thank you | 00:17 |
| broder | so now that i've grabbed the stacktrace, is there anything i can do to help with the debugging of bug 784335? | 00:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 784335 in linux "Heavy network utilization with r8169 leads to kernel panic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784335 | 00:30 |
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| jj-afk | back on later | 00:33 |
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| bAdGigabit | Dose the current kernel support packet injection? | 04:37 |
| bAdGigabit | more specific. Will it support it for the ath9k drivers? | 04:37 |
| bAdGigabit | sorry, did anyone reply? | 04:49 |
| bAdGigabit | sorry, i kewp getting disconneted | 05:05 |
| bAdGigabit | any awnsers that i missed? | 05:05 |
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| * apw yawns | 08:28 | |
| jk- | hey apw & smb | 08:30 |
| apw | moin jk- | 08:30 |
| smb | morning jk- | 08:31 |
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| eagles0513875 | morning apw :D | 09:04 |
| valorie | hi all, since I upgraded to 11.04, my mic jack no longer works | 09:06 |
| valorie | I searched the bugs, but didn't find anyone else reporting this | 09:06 |
| valorie | what do i need to do to report a useful bug? | 09:06 |
| apw | eagles0513875, hi | 09:08 |
| eagles0513875 | how goes it apw | 09:08 |
| apw | valorie, thinking | 09:08 |
| valorie | eagles0513875 suggested I ask here | 09:09 |
| apw | smb, can you remember what we file sound bugs against, alsa something something | 09:09 |
| eagles0513875 | apw: it was my suggestion to have her ask here as we thought it might be a kernel issue | 09:09 |
| eagles0513875 | me im kinda having a similar issue with usb webcam with mic and pulse audio | 09:09 |
| valorie | mic doesn't work either, but it never has | 09:09 |
| smb | apw, Something like that... could it be alsa-driver or so? | 09:09 |
| valorie | I think | 09:09 |
| apw | very likely a kernel issue, and reporting it against the right package is the key | 09:10 |
| apw | and before my first coffee i can't think what its called | 09:10 |
| eagles0513875 | apw: should we have her try the proposed 38-9 kernel | 09:10 |
| valorie | I'll be around for another hour or so | 09:10 |
| awilkins | valorie, Do you know what sound hardware you're using? | 09:10 |
| * valorie serves coffee around the chan | 09:10 | |
| apw | awilkins, i was just going to mention your fix | 09:10 |
| * awilkins grins | 09:11 | |
| eagles0513875 | im wondering if his fix woudl apply to usb webcams that have mics then again im not sure what that fix is | 09:11 |
| valorie | not off the top of my head | 09:11 |
| awilkins | Probably not to a USB webcam with integrated mic | 09:11 |
| valorie | what's the command to find out? | 09:11 |
| eagles0513875 | valorie: a simple lspci should tell ya | 09:11 |
| eagles0513875 | mines a Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) | 09:11 |
| eagles0513875 | 09:11 | |
| eagles0513875 | valorie: lspci on command line and find the line that says audio :D | 09:11 |
| eagles0513875 | i think before it worked with my other motherboard which had a realtek audio chipset this has an intel one : ( | 09:12 |
| apw | valorie, i think its "ubuntu-bug audio" | 09:12 |
| valorie | 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) | 09:12 |
| * apw thinks people have been chanigng things on us | 09:12 | |
| valorie | 01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS780 Azalia controller | 09:12 |
| awilkins | Intel HDA... so that might be affected by that fix | 09:12 |
| awilkins | Intel HDA is an abstraction for a bunch of different chipsets from what I can gather | 09:13 |
| apw | awilkins, your change was to the codec side wasn't it ? remember which one? | 09:13 |
| awilkins | AD1988 | 09:13 |
| awilkins | valorie, Do us a `dmesg | grep hda` | 09:13 |
| awilkins | And tell us what the line with hda_codec says | 09:13 |
| eagles0513875 | valorie: did you check ur settings in the bios | 09:14 |
| eagles0513875 | if you dont have it set to use hd you need to | 09:14 |
| valorie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/612193 | 09:15 |
| valorie | no line with hda_codec | 09:15 |
| valorie | how do I check the setting in the bios? | 09:15 |
| valorie | I've done that before, but years ago | 09:16 |
| awilkins | valorie, You'd have to play that by ear - reboot, watch your power up messages for the key for "setup", and hunt around in your menus | 09:16 |
| eagles0513875 | ya | 09:16 |
| awilkins | BIOS setup usually requires you to make an affirmative choice to save settings also | 09:16 |
| eagles0513875 | i checked my bios and i dont have any settings in mine | 09:17 |
| eagles0513875 | this is hopefully a temp motherboard i have | 09:17 |
| eagles0513875 | till i rma my higher end motherboard | 09:17 |
| awilkins | But there are too many nonstandard variants for us to walk you through it, probably in the "PCI devices" area | 09:17 |
| eagles0513875 | actually im thinking my issue is more with skype itself | 09:17 |
| valorie | well, this is my laptop/work/main computer | 09:17 |
| eagles0513875 | cuz i use mumble | 09:17 |
| eagles0513875 | and my mic works just fine :( | 09:17 |
| valorie | oh weird | 09:18 |
| eagles0513875 | ya | 09:18 |
| eagles0513875 | i know | 09:18 |
| valorie | well, skype used to work | 09:18 |
| eagles0513875 | i know | 09:18 |
| valorie | now the mic doesn't | 09:18 |
| eagles0513875 | valorie: sme issue | 09:18 |
| eagles0513875 | same* | 09:18 |
| valorie | but I don't remember if that was a different lappy or this one | 09:18 |
| eagles0513875 | apw: who would we need to contact to report this as skype is in the ubuntu partner repo | 09:18 |
| valorie | BUT: soundrecorder doesn't work either | 09:18 |
| valorie | eagles0513875: HA! | 09:18 |
| valorie | like Microsoft will care | 09:18 |
| eagles0513875 | the funny thing | 09:18 |
| eagles0513875 | the older static libs on the skype site work just fine | 09:19 |
| eagles0513875 | even the version in 10.10 worked | 09:19 |
| * eagles0513875 needs to develop an alternative to skype before it gets destroyed | 09:19 | |
| awilkins | Skype works just fine on pulse now | 09:19 |
| valorie | skype hasn't worked for me for at least the last 3 versions of kubuntu | 09:19 |
| eagles0513875 | awilkins: i have no mic input | 09:19 |
| valorie | but I've not had a problems with the headphones for a long, long time | 09:19 |
| eagles0513875 | it works fine but no mic | 09:19 |
| eagles0513875 | awilkins: how did you manage to get it to work | 09:20 |
| valorie | jack worked until upgrade, and then it didn't | 09:20 |
| awilkins | eagles0513875, Neither did I - previously suffered from #593018, then from #776964 | 09:20 |
| eagles0513875 | skype says to go into the pulseaudio settings and i have no idea where those are | 09:21 |
| valorie | veromix will do it | 09:21 |
| awilkins | valorie, I had the same thing - but before I had to flip-flop the input selector to get the mic working, but then it stopped | 09:21 |
| eagles0513875 | awilkins: its saying i have to use the local mixer to adjust settings but kmix doesnt have my cam mic listed | 09:21 |
| valorie | or pavucontrol | 09:21 |
| valorie | eagles0513875: does alsamixer have it listed? | 09:22 |
| awilkins | eagles0513875, Well, it sounds like the driver for your cam mic isn't working, or isn't present | 09:22 |
| eagles0513875 | in kmix my logitech quick cam is listed | 09:22 |
| valorie | sec | 09:22 |
| awilkins | valorie, Since your hardware previously worked, more chance of working out what's wrong | 09:22 |
| eagles0513875 | skype is bugged | 09:24 |
| eagles0513875 | i installed pavucontrol and mic is picking up sound there | 09:24 |
| eagles0513875 | skype for some reason isnt | 09:24 |
| awilkins | Which version of Skype? I'm presuming latest | 09:25 |
| awilkins | Specifically, I have 2.2 beta and it works fine with GNOME / Pulseaudio. | 09:25 |
| awilkins | If you can record sound from your mic, eagles0513875, it's not really a kernel problem, and I would suggest you'd have more luck in a channel devoted to userland software. | 09:26 |
| eagles0513875 | ya | 09:26 |
| eagles0513875 | awilkins: version of skype taht is in the partner repo | 09:26 |
| awilkins | eagles0513875, AFAIK that's the same as the one straight from the skype website. Mine says 2.2.0.25 in it's "About" box | 09:27 |
| eagles0513875 | ya | 09:27 |
| eagles0513875 | might uninstall it | 09:27 |
| eagles0513875 | and use the static package from the site | 09:28 |
| valorie | yay, you got your sound working though! | 09:29 |
| awilkins | eagles0513875, Try cleaning out it's settings first, move the ~/.Skype folder out of the way, start it up, and try a test call | 09:29 |
| valorie | I don't have time to restart tonight, but tomorrow when I start up, I'll look in the bios and see if I find anything suspicious | 09:29 |
| awilkins | valorie, The other tool I found useful was http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/HDA_Analyzer | 09:30 |
| awilkins | valorie, That lets you mess directly with the codec parameters | 09:30 |
| awilkins | valorie, In my case, my mic input pin was not set up right - it needed it's VREF setting to be 80, but the driver wasn't initializing it correctly | 09:31 |
| awilkins | See : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/linux/+bug/776964 | 09:31 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 776964 in linux "p5n32e-plus HDA Nvidia AD1988B microphone input not working" [Low,In progress] | 09:31 |
| eagles0513875 | awilkins: still nothing | 09:32 |
| eagles0513875 | i dont have time to hack at this right now | 09:32 |
| awilkins | valorie, We've not really discovered what your sound hardware is yet - HDA Intel hides a bunch of implementations and your dmesg didn't tell us what it was either | 09:32 |
| awilkins | That tool will probably be more informative, at least | 09:33 |
| valorie | any way to dig deeper? | 09:33 |
| awilkins | http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA | 09:33 |
| valorie | oh, hda analyzer | 09:33 |
| valorie | which is a script to run | 09:33 |
| awilkins | Yes, you have to run it as root | 09:33 |
| * eagles0513875 wants my original motherboard back so badly | 09:33 | |
| awilkins | sudo python run.py | 09:33 |
| valorie | not sure I can make heads or tails of it | 09:33 |
| eagles0513875 | my original motherboard works so much better then this one | 09:33 |
| eagles0513875 | would probably require a linux reinstall though :( | 09:34 |
| valorie | I'm a writer, not a devel | 09:34 |
| awilkins | valorie, It just gives you direct access to all those little switches that you see in a recording studio | 09:34 |
| awilkins | valorie, Instead of one big volume knob | 09:34 |
| eagles0513875 | awilkins: usually i stick with the nvidia nforce chipsets | 09:35 |
| eagles0513875 | those have realtek which i have never had any issues with | 09:35 |
| eagles0513875 | not to mention i can use fully my 5.1 atm down to 2.1 with this motherboard | 09:35 |
| awilkins | eagles0513875, I have an nforce, but my sound is an Analog Devices | 09:35 |
| eagles0513875 | would love to take advantage of the spdif the other motherboard has | 09:36 |
| awilkins | valorie, If you have HDAAnalyzer running, what's the name on the first AUD_OUT device? | 09:39 |
| apw | awilkins, this thing should be packaged and installed by default | 09:41 |
| awilkins | apw, The HDAAnalyzer thing downloads components of itself, but I suppose you could install the bootstrap script. I would guess that | 09:42 |
| apw | i think i would be happier if someone packaged the bits | 09:42 |
| apw | as its a bit scarey to download some random stuff and run it as root | 09:42 |
| awilkins | I would guess that HDA Intel is probably responsible for quite a few bugs because of the myriad of implementations | 09:42 |
| awilkins | But the actual implementation inside seems to hide well | 09:43 |
| awilkins | lspci for me does not reflect that the codec is an AD1988B, neither does HDAAnalyzer either, to be true | 09:44 |
| awilkins | Apart from some of the node names | 09:44 |
| diwic | for HDAanalyzer, just download snd-hda-tools from ppa:diwic/ppa and run "sudo hda_analyzer" | 09:44 |
| awilkins | dmesg reports it, but valorie doesn't seem to have that so maybe there is an inconsistent level of logging in the various codec implementations in the drivers | 09:45 |
| valorie | oh, rather that wgetting it? | 09:45 |
| valorie | I was opening the /proc/asound/card0/ and looking at it | 09:45 |
| diwic | valorie, yeah, I packaged it and a few other hda tools up | 09:45 |
| diwic | (i e if you were asking me) | 09:45 |
| awilkins | valorie, The first line of /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 seems to be the information we seek | 09:46 |
| awilkins | At least, in my case | 09:46 |
| valorie | Codec: IDT 92HD71B7X | 09:47 |
| awilkins | On the plus side, that's marvellously specific | 09:47 |
| awilkins | On the downside, it's not the thing we have recently fixed | 09:47 |
| valorie | snd-tools is installing | 09:48 |
| awilkins | So it worked in Maverick but not Natty? | 09:48 |
| valorie | yes | 09:48 |
| valorie | ok, what do you need from that analyzer? | 09:48 |
| awilkins | valorie, I can't think of anything specific... but what you can do is try to find your Mic input pin | 09:49 |
| awilkins | So you should have a bunch of PIN nodes | 09:49 |
| valorie | in node editor, or text dump? | 09:49 |
| awilkins | Node editor | 09:49 |
| awilkins | On the left in the tree there are a bunch of PIN nodes | 09:49 |
| valorie | oooh | 09:50 |
| awilkins | If you look in the Config default section on the right, you will see some description of each node | 09:50 |
| awilkins | Find the one your Mic is plugged into | 09:50 |
| valorie | Press Detect | 09:50 |
| valorie | Headphone Drive | 09:50 |
| valorie | Output | 09:50 |
| valorie | first pin | 09:50 |
| awilkins | I found the "Jack color" and "Jack location" bits helpful locating it | 09:50 |
| valorie | mic jack is pink! | 09:51 |
| awilkins | e.g. mine is PIN 0x17 Jack type : Mic Jack location : Ext Jack location2 : Rear | 09:51 |
| awilkins | That's the one | 09:51 |
| awilkins | What's it's Wiget control section say? | 09:51 |
| valorie | boxes are all unchecked | 09:52 |
| valorie | VREF HIZ below that | 09:52 |
| awilkins | Ok, check "IN" and change the VREF to 80 | 09:52 |
| valorie | done | 09:52 |
| valorie | I think that's the jack for an external mic | 09:53 |
| awilkins | Now open Sound recorder or something with a VU meter ( `pavumeter --record` ) and try it out | 09:53 |
| valorie | let me get one | 09:53 |
| valorie | or I guess I can use my headphones | 09:53 |
| awilkins | Ah, what' the input for the Mic you are actually using | 09:53 |
| awilkins | That one was probably not initialized if you weren't using it on purpose | 09:53 |
| awilkins | Esp. if it has "input sense" | 09:54 |
| valorie | I was trying to get the internal mic working | 09:54 |
| awilkins | Probably another pin | 09:54 |
| valorie | Press Detect | 09:54 |
| valorie | Input | 09:54 |
| valorie | VREF_HIZ | 09:54 |
| valorie | VREF_50 | 09:54 |
| valorie | VREF_GRD | 09:54 |
| valorie | VREF_80 | 09:54 |
| valorie | but it would be cool to get this one working too | 09:54 |
| apw | internal mics are sometimes on the same plug as the external and connected when the jack is not | 09:55 |
| awilkins | True, you might want to try that VU meter anyway | 09:55 |
| valorie | did, and nothing | 09:55 |
| valorie | just dead | 09:56 |
| valorie | ok, another pin | 09:56 |
| diwic | valorie, btw, regardless if you get somewhere or not, will you file a bug (unless you already did) for it, e g "using ubuntu-bug audio"? | 09:56 |
| diwic | thanks! | 09:56 |
| awilkins | Pins are just the start, alas, the whole chain of things has to work.... I found the thing that draws an SVG diagram of your codec useful | 09:57 |
| valorie | Jack connection: Fixed | 09:57 |
| valorie | Jack type: Mic | 09:57 |
| diwic | awilkins, codecgraph is also packaged in snd-hda-tools | 09:57 |
| valorie | Jack location: Ext | 09:57 |
| valorie | Jack location2: Top | 09:57 |
| valorie | Jack connector: Digital | 09:57 |
| valorie | Jack color: Black | 09:57 |
| valorie | No presence | 09:57 |
| valorie | is another | 09:57 |
| awilkins | And I was already reasonably familiar with the control set on my codec because I had to monkey around with the selectors to get it to work with Maverick | 09:57 |
| valorie | well, I will file one, but I wanted decent details | 09:57 |
| valorie | "it doesn't work" isn't very helpful | 09:57 |
| awilkins | valorie, That one is probably an audio out | 09:57 |
| valorie | Stereo | 09:58 |
| valorie | Output Amplifier | 09:58 |
| valorie | you're right | 09:58 |
| awilkins | You want ones that have the PIN cap "Input" | 09:58 |
| diwic | valorie, that's great although "ubuntu-bug audio" will include some relevant files that can help us analyze the problem | 09:58 |
| apw | diwic, do you use hda analyser ? | 09:58 |
| diwic | apw, sometimes, yes | 09:59 |
| apw | diwic, next time we are in the same place, you have to show us how to interterpret its output | 09:59 |
| valorie | Jack connection: Jack | 09:59 |
| valorie | Jack type: HP Out | 09:59 |
| valorie | Jack location: Ext | 09:59 |
| valorie | Jack location2: Front | 09:59 |
| valorie | Jack connector: 1/8 | 09:59 |
| awilkins | Headphones out | 09:59 |
| valorie | Jack color: Green | 09:59 |
| valorie | is headphones | 09:59 |
| valorie | Headphone Drive | 10:00 |
| valorie | Output | 10:00 |
| diwic | apw, maybe it's time for another audio triaging session | 10:00 |
| valorie | widget control has nothing selected | 10:00 |
| diwic | apw, I saw JFo wanted more of that as well | 10:00 |
| awilkins | valorie, Paste the contents of your /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 file to the pastebin | 10:00 |
| apw | diwic, yeah i'd like to listen in on one again, there is more tooling now than i remember | 10:00 |
| diwic | apw, we could do one hda driver specific | 10:01 |
| apw | yeah, as that is our primary pain point | 10:01 |
| valorie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/612205 | 10:01 |
| awilkins | valorie, I think node 0x18 is your baby | 10:01 |
| awilkins | valorie, Select node 0x18 and check the VREF value | 10:02 |
| valorie | Jack connection: Fixed | 10:02 |
| valorie | Jack type: Mic | 10:02 |
| valorie | Jack location: Ext | 10:02 |
| valorie | Jack location2: Top | 10:02 |
| valorie | Jack connector: Digital | 10:02 |
| valorie | Jack color: Black | 10:02 |
| valorie | No presence | 10:02 |
| valorie | there is none | 10:02 |
| valorie | in is checked | 10:02 |
| valorie | but no vref value | 10:02 |
| awilkins | Hmm, from this file, node 0x18 should be "Internal Mic Capture Volume" | 10:03 |
| awilkins | But no VREF | 10:03 |
| valorie | yes, that's the name | 10:03 |
| awilkins | Bah | 10:03 |
| valorie | but no vref | 10:03 |
| diwic | awilkins, digital mics usually don't have VREF_80 and that stuff because the connection between the dmic and the codec is digital | 10:03 |
| valorie | maybe it never DID work | 10:03 |
| valorie | sec, gotta take the old dog outside | 10:04 |
| awilkins | diwic, Thanks... I'm just an amateur | 10:04 |
| diwic | awilkins, and we need more helpful amateurs :-) and help them become more qualified | 10:04 |
| awilkins | Gah, I had that codec grapher somewhere | 10:05 |
| valorie | blind, deaf, and when he's gotta go, he's gotta go | 10:06 |
| apw | diwic, if you haven't met awilkins hes definatly a potential contributer on the debugging audio side | 10:06 |
| diwic | nice! | 10:06 |
| * diwic shakes hands with awilkins | 10:07 | |
| * awilkins shakes hands back | 10:07 | |
| apw | awilkins, meet diwic our sound expert | 10:07 |
| diwic | awilkins, the codecgraph utility is packaged and ready in the snd-hda-tools package in ppa:diwic/ppa | 10:08 |
| awilkins | diwic, Yup, installed | 10:09 |
| diwic | (or ppa:diwic/maverick for 10.10) | 10:09 |
| diwic | awilkins, so what I would do in this case is to take the codec a ride through hda-emu and see if the automuting does what it should | 10:09 |
| diwic | auto-switching between int and ext mic | 10:10 |
| diwic | valorie, when you posted that codec file, was anything plugged into the mic? | 10:10 |
| diwic | awilkins, potentially try a newer alsa-driver as well | 10:10 |
| valorie | hmm | 10:10 |
| valorie | I don't think so | 10:11 |
| valorie | I plugged in to test | 10:11 |
| awilkins | I think the relevant nodes are ... nodes 0x18 (the mic pin) 0x1c (audio selector) and 0x12 (audio input) | 10:11 |
| valorie | and then just now, plugged in earphones to test | 10:11 |
| valorie | earphones are really why I'm here | 10:11 |
| valorie | as it is unknown whether or not the mic ever worked | 10:12 |
| valorie | laptop isn't that old, but | 10:12 |
| valorie | don't know | 10:12 |
| diwic | awilkins, hmm, I /think/ it is 0x18 - 0x1d - 0x13 because that's stream 0, but better double-check in hda-emu | 10:12 |
| valorie | so the headphones textdump is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/612209 | 10:13 |
| awilkins | diwic, What's the significance of dotty lines over solid ones - I was tending to follow solid ones when I was debugging my own issue | 10:13 |
| diwic | awilkins, dotty lines are generally unconnected but could potentially be connected if one changes that in the driver or hda-emu | 10:14 |
| diwic | awilkins, or in hda-analyzer I mean | 10:15 |
| valorie | and here is the codec#0 with definitely nothing plugged in: http://paste.ubuntu.com/612210 | 10:15 |
| diwic | awilkins, ok so it is 0x18 - 0x1c - 0x12 actually | 10:16 |
| diwic | valorie, you don't happen to have an ATI controller, do you? | 10:17 |
| valorie | yes | 10:17 |
| diwic | valorie, you might be suffering from bug 741825 then | 10:17 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 741825 in alsa-driver "ATI controllers [1002:4383] and [1002:4383] (rev 40): Intermittent record and jack sense failure" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/741825 | 10:17 |
| valorie | gah! | 10:18 |
| diwic | valorie, and if so the recommended solution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules as we think this was finally fixed a few days ago | 10:19 |
| awilkins | If your first one was plugged and your second one was not, then I would concur | 10:19 |
| valorie | 01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS780 Azalia controller | 10:19 |
| awilkins | Because they are identical | 10:19 |
| diwic | apw, we should just see some more testing of this fix and then make it into a Natty SRU | 10:19 |
| diwic | apw, I think it needs two different commits to fix | 10:20 |
| apw | diwic, big and ugly ? | 10:20 |
| diwic | apw, no, but potentially affecting a lot of machines, that's my only hesitation...but in this case I think it's worth it | 10:21 |
| valorie | ok, installing | 10:21 |
| valorie | and for this, I will restart | 10:21 |
| jussi | o/ | 10:24 |
| jussi | I just had a major crash of the whole system, ended up with this: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/24/2011-05-24_11-37-17_362_Oulu.jpg | 10:25 |
| jussi | any help ? | 10:25 |
| diwic | apw, i e affecting all ATI HDA machines | 10:25 |
| jussi | is there anything else I can get now (after a restart) that would help diagnose this? | 10:26 |
| apw | jussi, hmmm another cpuidle_idle_call explosion | 10:29 |
| apw | what kernel is that? | 10:29 |
| jussi | jussi@squirrel:~$ uname -a | 10:29 |
| jussi | Linux squirrel 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 10:29 |
| diwic | ok I'll be away for lunch for a while, see you later! | 10:31 |
| jussi | apw: Im aroundish with this PC for the next ~4 hours. If there is anything else you need, please ask. Ill go file a bug in the meantime. | 10:32 |
| eagles0513875 | jussi: did you have your whole system lock up on u and freeze nastily | 10:37 |
| eagles0513875 | when you maximize konsole or certain other apps? | 10:38 |
| jussi | eagles0513875: no. | 10:38 |
| eagles0513875 | ok just checking cuz that is a super nasty bug which boils down to an nvidia driver issue | 10:38 |
| jussi | eagles0513875: given I dont have nvidia... | 10:39 |
| eagles0513875 | ahh | 10:39 |
| * eagles0513875 retreats to the amarok channel | 10:39 | |
| jussi | bug 787442 | 10:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 787442 in linux "Complete machine crash (kernel panic?) " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/787442 | 10:40 |
| jussi | apw: ^^ | 10:40 |
| eagles0513875 | jussi: i was having those with atheros wifi card in my netbook | 10:42 |
| valorie | here goes nothing, restarting..... | 10:42 |
| eagles0513875 | gd luck valorie | 10:43 |
| apw | jussi, you had a photo, could you attach that pls | 10:43 |
| jussi | apw: its attached - first attachment. | 10:44 |
| apw | stupid launchpad, hiding the important one | 10:44 |
| jussi | heh | 10:44 |
| apw | jussi, i've updated the subject. if this is reproducible you could try the -propsoed kernel which as a heap of stable updates (-9 | 10:46 |
| jussi | apw: I havent managed to reproduce :/ | 10:46 |
| apw | i think i've seen 3 reports of something ismilar, one was put in my hands at UDS, but nothing common about them | 10:47 |
| eagles0513875 | apw: there was my issue with kernel panicing and my atheros wifi card which is fixed in proposed | 10:47 |
| jussi | apw: I had this bug earlier: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/775432 - I put it in someones hands at UDS. | 10:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 775432 in linux "rtl8169 kernel panic" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:48 |
| valorie | thank you SO MUCH! | 10:49 |
| valorie | I now have earphones again | 10:49 |
| valorie | if you give me that bug report, I'll comment on it if necessary | 10:49 |
| apw | jussi, that one is definatly different | 10:50 |
| jussi | apw: yeah. | 10:50 |
| jussi | apw: it was your hands (and Leann's) that I put it into iirc | 10:50 |
| jussi | Anywya, If I manage to reproduce, Ill let you know. | 10:51 |
| apw | jussi, quite likely :) i had a lot of machines put in my hands over the week its hard to keep anything striaght | 10:51 |
| jussi | apw: :) | 10:51 |
| smb | jj-afk, hggdh FYI: I am able to reproduce the maverick ec2 fail locally. The "close blk" is normal though. It seems to be a very early lockup though. As I see 100% cpu usage but no dmesg output at all. | 10:51 |
| awilkins | valorie, bug 741825 | 10:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 741825 in alsa-driver "ATI controllers [1002:4383] and [1002:4383] (rev 40): Intermittent record and jack sense failure" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/741825 | 10:53 |
| valorie | also, my mic seems to work now | 11:01 |
| valorie | at least the volume meter is showing activity | 11:01 |
| valorie | \o/ | 11:01 |
| valorie | and SKYPE WORKS TOO! | 11:04 |
| valorie | y'all are miracle workers | 11:04 |
| apw | valorie, one of the many advantages of open source ... one can fix it | 11:05 |
| valorie | kub. packagers are working on some free alternatives | 11:06 |
| valorie | I hope we come up with something as good | 11:06 |
| valorie | or better | 11:06 |
| eagles0513875 | awilkins: could ur fix possibly fix my issue with my webcam mic if it fixed it for valorie | 11:09 |
| awilkins | eagles0513875, An integrated webcam mic would be a USB driver problem | 11:13 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 11:14 |
| awilkins | eagles0513875, Mine didn't fix valories, she had a jack sensing issue, and my issue was a codec initialization issue | 11:14 |
| eagles0513875 | ahh ok | 11:14 |
| eagles0513875 | i guess ill have to take a look at the bios | 11:14 |
| awilkins | valorie has been fixed by another patch though | 11:14 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 11:14 |
| awilkins | I think if you can actually record sound from that mic it's not so much a kernel problem | 11:15 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 11:15 |
| eagles0513875 | software as in skype issue | 11:15 |
| awilkins | eagles0513875, Don't know - you might consider trying a GNOME session (or Unity) to see if it works there | 11:17 |
| awilkins | eagles0513875, I don't know enough about KDE / phonon / whatever to speculate | 11:17 |
| eagles0513875 | ok no worries | 11:17 |
| diwic | what am I doing wrong if I try to boot from a live Natty USB stick and get the error "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"? | 12:37 |
| diwic | and dropped to a busybox shell | 12:38 |
| diwic | ok; switched usb slot, that helped | 12:42 |
| htorque | hello everyone! are there known boot problems with oneiric and intel hd graphics? my boot 'fails' 4 out of 5 times (i can ssh into the machine). | 13:32 |
| htorque | i sometimes see the plymouth text theme (kms problem?), but most of the time it's just a black screen with a blinking cursor. not happening with nvidia on the same notebook. | 13:32 |
| === ihateyou1oo is now known as elmo | ||
| apw | htorque, nothing known, i use the kernel on my systems here and haven't seen that myself | 14:25 |
| apw | but i am not using oneiric userspace with them | 14:26 |
| htorque | apw, thanks. the only weird thing i noticed when ssh'd into the machine, was the short output of lsmod: http://paste.ubuntu.com/612274/ | 14:27 |
| apw | htorque, does lsmod complete ? | 14:27 |
| htorque | i got a new prompt, so i guess yes (i didn't check the return value) | 14:28 |
| apw | a prompt is enough for me | 14:29 |
| apw | so i'd say we're only half booted | 14:29 |
| htorque | apw, would you say that looks like a kernel issue? i would then try to bisect | 14:32 |
| apw | very hard to say, i would try with the last natty kerenl on your userspace | 14:33 |
| apw | and see if the problem is resolved, if so then kernel it is | 14:33 |
| === hito_jp0 is now known as hito_jp | ||
| htorque | apw, thanks, will do. | 14:33 |
| dmarkey | hmm.. is there a known issue where xen network/block modules arent automatically modprobe'd | 14:35 |
| dmarkey | in 11.04 | 14:35 |
| apw | dmarkey, in the virtual kernel ? | 14:39 |
| smb | dmarkey, Hm, not really aware of that. Seemed to have worked for me at least... | 14:40 |
| smb | (virtual kernel) | 14:40 |
| dmarkey | i'm using the pae kernel | 14:41 |
| smb | dmarkey, as domU (just to be sure) | 14:42 |
| dmarkey | Yes :) | 14:42 |
| dmarkey | i'll install the virtual kerne | 14:42 |
| htorque | apw: also happening with the natty kernel | 14:43 |
| apw | htorque, and you didn't have this i assume on natty itself? so that implies it is something else | 14:43 |
| smb | dmarkey, I have not tried generic-pae but at least with the virtual I don't remember any problems when starting an instance | 14:43 |
| apw | given you have almost nothing running/loaded, i am worried about upstart | 14:44 |
| htorque | apw: no, natty was working fine | 14:44 |
| htorque | apw: "init: udev-fallback-graphics main process (...) terminated with status 1" - could this be the cause? | 14:49 |
| apw | yep, that could easily be the cuase | 14:49 |
| apw | as things wait for that to complete before starting X | 14:50 |
| htorque | i just wonder why this doesn't happen with nouveau | 14:50 |
| dmarkey | smb: do you have a installer initrd with the -virtual kernel | 14:50 |
| apw | htorque, well that one only does something if the drm driver doesn't load | 14:51 |
| apw | so its possible its telling you that the drm driver didn't load | 14:51 |
| apw | and that behaves different for each | 14:51 |
| apw | now why that has stopped working as normal is another question | 14:51 |
| apw | from your lsmod you also don't have much of anything else loaded, so it could be a udev issue | 14:52 |
| smb | dmarkey, not really. I sort of cheat and start of the cloud images (ripping the cloud out) most of the time. | 14:52 |
| dmarkey | i see. is I assu,e its udev thats dropping the ball here? | 14:53 |
| dmarkey | assume* | 14:53 |
| smb | dmarkey, those would be at http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/ (but probably won't help you). Hm, a sec | 14:54 |
| htorque | apw: "udevd: error binding udev control socket" sounds serious - had to use a camera to capture it, not sure if i get something similar in the nouveau case (it's just scrolling away too fast) | 14:57 |
| dmarkey | hmm.. how are these bootstrapped? | 14:57 |
| smb | dmarkey, ah wait. At least for virtual those are built-in... I guess not for the other flavours. So you probably need to add them to /etc/modules | 14:58 |
| dmarkey | but will that make it into the initrd? | 14:59 |
| smb | dmarkey, Right, modules, for generic-pae and built-in for virtual. Let me check... | 15:01 |
| smb | dmarkey, Maybe /etc/initramfs-tools/modules is better | 15:02 |
| dmarkey | but the modules are in my initrd at the min.. the problem is they're not getting modprobed! | 15:02 |
| smb | dmarkey, At least the comment in initramfs-tools/modules says that they should get loaded if listed there | 15:03 |
| dmarkey | ah i see | 15:03 |
| htorque | apw: it boots fine with natty's udev | 15:36 |
| apw | htorque, sounds like the place to file a bug then | 15:36 |
| apw | can you pasge the number here as well | 15:36 |
| htorque | apw: yeah, thanks! will do. | 15:37 |
| * ogasawara back in 20 | 15:38 | |
| htorque | hm, that's similar to the messages i see: bug 712026 -> comment #14 by smoser | 15:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 712026 in udev "cloud-init.conf never runs, instance not reachable via ssh" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712026 | 15:39 |
| apw | htorque, that is a very different bug, could you file a new one, and indicate in smosers one that there is a separate bug | 15:41 |
| apw | htorque, is this a real machine or a VM for you | 15:46 |
| htorque | apw: real machine | 15:46 |
| htorque | apw: bug 787610 (sorry, took some time) | 16:09 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 787610 in udev "System fails to boot with Intel HD graphics" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/787610 | 16:09 |
| hggdh | smb: ping -- maverick ec2 | 16:32 |
| smb | hggdh, pong, yes broken | 16:32 |
| JFo | heh | 16:32 |
| JFo | quickest conversation ever | 16:32 |
| hggdh | smb: will we regen the whole thing? In other words, should we keep on and test maverick on hardware? | 16:32 |
| hggdh | JFo: but I insist ;-) | 16:33 |
| JFo | heh, of course :) | 16:33 |
| smb | hggdh, I'd probably go on while I try to find what broke it | 16:35 |
| hggdh | smb: roj | 16:35 |
| smb | hggdh, Maybe start with 32bit to see if it breaks real hw too | 16:35 |
| hggdh | smb: heh. Nothing like beating on a piece of hot iron. Will do | 16:36 |
| smb | hggdh, I saw the same hang with the current master-next so at least not fixed in there. | 16:37 |
| hggdh | things get more exciting, I see | 16:37 |
| smb | hggdh, Now I am trying to bisect or make crash work for me... | 16:38 |
| herton | smb, ogasawara: bjf told me about Finalise() vim for kernel changelog, where it comes from? | 16:42 |
| smb | herton, IT some vim file magic | 16:42 |
| herton | I was using dch on my test builds, but seems more practical to use this directly in vi | 16:42 |
| ogasawara | herton: smb taught me that bit of magic | 16:43 |
| smb | Though it needed enabling tings sometimes. If it works for you there is even more magic that came from apw to make it a two keystroke | 16:43 |
| ogasawara | yah, I've got a vim shortcut for it | 16:43 |
| smb | herton, can send you the relevant vimrc thing | 16:44 |
| herton | smb: yes please do | 16:45 |
| apw | yeah i use a couple of bindings | 16:45 |
| apw | to those vim functions, which are only loaded when the file is called changelog | 16:46 |
| smb | herton, file is on the way | 16:52 |
| herton | received here, thanks, will try it | 16:53 |
| herton | where you define Finalise(), is it from some plugin like package? | 16:56 |
| === jj-afk is now known as jjohansen | ||
| herton | ok seems to come from /usr/share/vim/vimcurrent/ftplugin/debchangelog.vim, just wonder why it didn't find it | 17:00 |
| smb | herton, As I wrote there is also the plugin enable switch. I remember this had to be turned on at some point | 17:01 |
| smb | So enable filetype plugins and the file must be named changelog | 17:01 |
| smb | otherwise it is not there | 17:02 |
| herton | smb: it is what filetype plugin on is supposed to do right? will figure this out later, lunch here, bbl | 17:07 |
| ppisati | don't we have the meeting in an hour? i think i didn't see brad email | 17:08 |
| JFo | yep, we do | 17:09 |
| apw | sconklin, bjf, FYI the lts-backport-natty is now up to date, and should be included in the matrix | 17:09 |
| bjf | apw, thanks, we were talking about it just a little while ago | 17:09 |
| apw | i talked to cjw and we don't need to do anything other than get it copied to -proposed | 17:09 |
| apw | no process is required. so i've pulled it forward and uploaded it to ckt PPA, hopefully I did it right :) | 17:10 |
| bjf | ppetraki, you are correct and i'd completely forgotten about it | 17:10 |
| apw | the brnaches are all pushed into lucid repo as normal | 17:10 |
| apw | branch and tag even | 17:10 |
| bjf | apw, i'll bet you didn't add a tracking bug :-) | 17:10 |
| JFo | we have a seeming conflict with some app dev board? | 17:10 |
| JFo | bjf ^^ | 17:10 |
| ppetraki | bjf, what am I right about? (happens alot) | 17:11 |
| JFo | at 5 in the -meeting room that is | 17:11 |
| bjf | JFo, looking | 17:11 |
| JFo | k | 17:11 |
| JFo | bjf, I'm looking at http://www.ubuntu-news.org/calendars/fridge/ | 17:11 |
| JFo | just FYI | 17:11 |
| apw | bjf, heh nope, though when i uploaded it i was building it to get it into universe for a MIR, which is not required, so i forgive me ... feel free to blow it up and replace it | 17:11 |
| bjf | apw, we appreciate any and all help, np | 17:12 |
| smb | bjf, sconklin Btw, I had been questioned about "when goes lucid from proposed to updates". As the calendar shows this week prep for next cycle I was not really able to answer. ;) | 17:12 |
| apw | yeah been wondering of those 'yellow' things had been updated since the 2w to 3w transition | 17:12 |
| sconklin | smb: it is out of our hands. | 17:12 |
| bjf | smb, basically, qa is behind schedule so we're not sure | 17:13 |
| bjf | ppetraki, about the meeting | 17:13 |
| smb | Ah. Somehow I had the illusion for lucid it was done. | 17:14 |
| JFo | ppetraki, he meant that for ppisati | 17:14 |
| JFo | :) | 17:14 |
| * JFo directs traffic | 17:15 | |
| bjf | JFo, i see what you are talking about, any thoughts on who i talk to about it | 17:15 |
| JFo | no idea | 17:15 |
| ppetraki | I figured :) | 17:15 |
| JFo | one sec... | 17:15 |
| bjf | ppetraki, sorrry for the noise :-) | 17:15 |
| ppetraki | np | 17:15 |
| JFo | bjf, looks like allison | 17:15 |
| JFo | as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Agenda | 17:15 |
| bjf | JFo, thanks, i'll ping her | 17:16 |
| JFo | k | 17:16 |
| * JFo is fully caffeinated today. imagine what I coulod accomplish on Jolt Cola ;) | 17:16 | |
| JFo | could* | 17:16 |
| JFo | I still wouldn't be able to spell all of the time | 17:16 |
| smb | JFo, Imagine all the trippple keypressses. :) | 17:18 |
| JFo | heh | 17:19 |
| JFo | then you could call me JittersFo | 17:19 |
| smb | JFo, Or "Zip" (If you ever played Fallout 3 ;)) | 17:20 |
| JFo | heh, I do | 17:21 |
| bjf | JFo, they are moving, thanks for the heads up | 17:21 |
| JFo | bjf, my pleasure | 17:21 |
| bjf | ppisati, am going to be looking for you for ARM status from now on, you are on the agenda | 17:22 |
| JFo | be ready, we hate slow meetings ;-) | 17:22 |
| bjf | ppisati, i can let it go this time, but be ready next time | 17:22 |
| ppisati | bjf: ack | 17:22 |
| apw | bjf, am i on the hook for anything today | 17:24 |
| bjf | apw, NO! but i can find something if you like :-) | 17:24 |
| bjf | apw, or if ogasawara would like me to | 17:24 |
| apw | heh, that'll be just fine, i assume its at now +00:35 | 17:25 |
| JFo | smb, do I need an EC2 item vor my metrics in the meeting? | 17:25 |
| JFo | for* | 17:25 |
| bjf | ## | 17:26 |
| bjf | ## Kernel team meeting in 34 minutes | 17:26 |
| bjf | ## | 17:26 |
| smb | JFo, Hm do we do special metrics for any arm stuff? | 17:26 |
| JFo | I did have items for them in case they were needed | 17:27 |
| bjf | smb, you are on the hook for one agenda item | 17:27 |
| JFo | I don't put them unless you guys tell me to | 17:27 |
| smb | JFo, Yeah, I am not sure (maybe yet) I need one... I'll come and whine whenever I find out I do | 17:28 |
| JFo | sounds good | 17:28 |
| JFo | I'll leave it off for now | 17:28 |
| smb | bjf, Guess I should look at it then... | 17:28 |
| bjf | jfo, ogasawara, sconklin smb all have agenda items, just a heads-up | 17:28 |
| smb | ta | 17:28 |
| JFo | I'm ready | 17:53 |
| apw | sconklin, did i see you applied both vesafb patches? i think i was expecting only the first to apply to older releases | 17:54 |
| sconklin | apw: well, I've deleted the email now, but I thought that the 0/0 listed all the series. Probably my mistake | 17:55 |
| apw | I am proposing the first patch for Oneiric, Natty, Maverick, and Lucid | 17:55 |
| apw | as a clear bug fix. The second sounds like something we could apply in | 17:55 |
| apw | Oneiric only and see what falls out. | 17:55 |
| sconklin | They all applied. Whether that's correct or not is a reasonable question | 17:55 |
| sconklin | I'll redo it after the meeting | 17:55 |
| apw | sconklin, ack, the risk for the older releases is too high imo | 17:56 |
| apw | for the small gain its likely to give | 17:56 |
| sconklin | apw: ack, I trust that judgement | 17:56 |
| sconklin | at least it's just a one patch reset unless something else has been pushed ;-) | 17:57 |
| dmarkey | Anyway, i'm going to file a ticket for this xen-blkfront not being modprobe'd | 17:57 |
| sconklin | apw: all fixed, thanks for letting me know | 18:00 |
| JFo | wow, my typing skills fail | 18:08 |
| * ppisati -> gym | 18:09 | |
| jjohansen | ogasawara: agree with doing config review at the sprint, I don't think there are any critically big changes to come out of it | 18:10 |
| ogasawara | jjohansen: cool, I'll mark your work item as done then :) | 18:11 |
| jjohansen | hehe :) | 18:11 |
| ogasawara | jjohansen: and add an item to our agenda for the rally | 18:11 |
| jjohansen | thanks | 18:11 |
| JFo | <-need food, back soon | 18:14 |
| === hallyn is now known as hallyn_afk | ||
| jjohansen | ogasawara, apw, rtg: actually there was one config that I thought worth discussing now. CONFIG_HZ | 18:40 |
| jjohansen | for our i386 and ppc kernels it is 250, but for our amd64 kernels it is 100. I think desktop should be 250 | 18:40 |
| apw | jjohansen, ok whats your reasoning .... (i tend to agree but) | 18:40 |
| ogasawara | jjohansen: hrm, I thought bjf had sent a patch for that. | 18:41 |
| jjohansen | apw: well for desktop we would like a better latency, 250 is a nice compromise between 100 and 1000 | 18:41 |
| bjf | ogasawara, no, i bumped the number of cpus | 18:41 |
| ogasawara | ah, I stand corrected | 18:41 |
| jjohansen | it also what we settled on for the i386 desktop | 18:41 |
| apw | jjohansen, i tend to agree its odd they are not consistant | 18:42 |
| jjohansen | apw: I don't have any figures, I could go and generate some, but that is one difference that really stood out | 18:42 |
| apw | i think we moved cause NO_HZ was supposed to make the number meaningless anyhow | 18:42 |
| jjohansen | apw: no NO_HZ is only for tickless sleep | 18:43 |
| jjohansen | apw: hrm, no I stand corrected, from the current Kconfig | 18:44 |
| jjohansen | This option enables a tickless system: timer interrupts will | 18:44 |
| jjohansen | only trigger on an as-needed basis both when the system is | 18:44 |
| jjohansen | busy and when the system is idle. | 18:44 |
| jjohansen | so it for busy as well, now I don't remember that change happening | 18:45 |
| apw | which should mean a higer HZ is cheaper, but cking's number says not ... hrm | 18:45 |
| apw | i am inclined to agree that without numbers that they should be consistant, 250 desktop, 100 server | 18:45 |
| apw | and work from there | 18:45 |
| jjohansen | apw: I think we should add a work item to generate some numbers and review at the sprint | 18:46 |
| apw | jjohansen, ack, you got time to do the work, or should i finger cking as he is off :) | 18:46 |
| JFo | heh | 18:47 |
| jjohansen | apw: since I brought it up, I'll take it as part of my prep for the config review | 18:47 |
| JFo | also, it would be awesome if you guys could spare me some skills training at platform | 18:47 |
| JFo | I'm trying to narrow some stuff we could work on in a few blocks | 18:47 |
| JFo | will send e-mail once I have more written down | 18:48 |
| JFo | going to see about getting some of graphics/sound/hardware enablement time as well | 18:48 |
| bjf | ogasawara, should i pull the config review from the meeting agenda until post Rally ? | 19:02 |
| ogasawara | bjf: sure | 19:02 |
| apw | jjohansen, if you have time thats great else just assign it to [canonical-kernel-team] and it'll stay on my radar | 19:05 |
| jjohansen | apw: lets assign it to me for now and if I don't get to it with in the next week or two we will reevaluate | 19:06 |
| apw | jjohansen, works for me | 19:06 |
| === bjf changed the topic of #ubuntu-kernel to: Home: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/ || Natty Kernel Version: 2.6.38 || Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - May-31 - 17:00 UTC || If you have a question just ask, and do wait around for an answer! | ||
| * apw wanders off to get some dinner ... laters | 19:29 | |
| JFo | ogasawara, are you aware of a change like the one described in bug 787671 ? | 19:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 787671 in linux "Starting with 2.6.39, EBS volumes start at /dev/xvde" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/787671 | 19:38 |
| JFo | seems like something that should be easy to confirm if I had the requisite volumes :) | 19:38 |
| JFo | and where would I look to determine if there was a change? obviously git log would help, but anything more than that? | 19:39 |
| manjo | how do I determine which upstream tree I cloned my tree from ? | 19:39 |
| manjo | thanks found it | 19:40 |
| JFo | what was it manjo | 19:40 |
| JFo | ? | 19:40 |
| manjo | .git/config has the info | 19:40 |
| JFo | cool, thanks | 19:41 |
| * JFo grabs oneiric branch while he is thinking about it | 19:42 | |
| ogasawara | JFo: I'm not aware of changes, maybe smb or jjohansen could confirm? | 19:51 |
| jjohansen | JFo: I haven't follow the ebs volume changes to closely this last kernel, but there were xen patches that went into to 2.6.39, I have a look | 19:54 |
| JFo | yeah, I initially thought of smb, but after hours for him. :) | 19:54 |
| JFo | k, thanks jjohansen | 19:55 |
| JFo | my oneiric branch fetch is taking longer than I thought | 19:58 |
| jjohansen | JFo: so there is a patch that affects the xen-blkfront driver device id numbering, I haven't looked at it to much but I suspect it is the cause | 20:04 |
| bjf | kees, is there a way (other than uploading a package) to see if my upload rights have been granted in LP? | 20:04 |
| JFo | jjohansen, ok, thanks | 20:04 |
| kees | bjf: that's an excellent question. I don't know where that information is held, actually. I'll see if cjwatson knows. | 20:05 |
| kees | bjf: looks like you still don't have it. who else on the team has those rights, just so I can compare? | 20:09 |
| bjf | ogasawara, | 20:09 |
| bjf | kees, ogasawara would have them | 20:09 |
| kees | all these irc nick vs LP nicks ;) | 20:10 |
| kees | yeah, I see her perms, so it looks like whoever needs to do that hasn't done it. | 20:10 |
| bjf | kees, thanks for checking | 20:11 |
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| kees | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel-uploaders/+members is it just this list? | 20:11 |
| kees | bjf: who from the DMB is supposed to update that? | 20:12 |
| bjf | kees, that looks like the right list, i don't know who is supposed to update it | 20:12 |
| kees | (for reference, lp:~ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-archive-tools/trunk/ has edit_acl.py which I'm using as "./edit_acl.py query -p brad-figg" and "./edit_acl.py query -p leannogasawara") | 20:13 |
| kees | bjf: maco says she has added you now. | 20:15 |
| kees | and the edit_acl.py output seems to agree | 20:15 |
| bjf | kees, i just popped onto the list | 20:16 |
| bjf | kees, you want to remove me from ubuntu-drivers ? | 20:16 |
| kees | bjf: sure, let's try that again.... | 20:16 |
| kees | bjf: okay, I've deactivated you there. can you still do bug task nominations? | 20:17 |
| bjf | kees, I'll give it a twirl and get back to you if i have any problems, thanks for the help | 20:18 |
| kees | bjf: okay, cool. thanks for testing! :) | 20:18 |
| avinashhm | Hi friends , i am trying to compile ubuntu kernel .. got the sources via 'apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)' .. i don't want to use fakeroot to compile ... want to use general make with some configs .. was looking on info to build which config .. any pointers will help | 20:25 |
| bjf | avinashhm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel documents how we suggest you do it | 20:28 |
| bjf | avinashhm, if you want to find another way, google is your friend :-) | 20:29 |
| hggdh | smb: maverick i386 is OK on KVM | 20:29 |
| avinashhm | bjf, sure ... ;-) .. i ll go over the link .. thanks buddy .. | 20:30 |
| JFo | jjohansen, was the one you were thinking it was the "xen-blkfront: handle Xen major numbers other than XENVBD" one? | 20:41 |
| avinashhm | Hi bjf , just curious ... i need only info abt the config used ... is it 'i386_defconfig' ? which is used for regular ubuntu ...(arch/x86/configs/i386_defconfig ? | 20:42 |
| manjo | ogasawara, who is looking at Ubuntu delta this cycle ? | 20:48 |
| ogasawara | manjo: it's been farmed to different individuals | 20:49 |
| ogasawara | manjo: anything in particular you're interested in? | 20:49 |
| bjf | avinashhm, cp /boot/config-`uname -r` /usr/src/linux/.config | 20:49 |
| manjo | ogasawara, omnibook module needs a refresh its been oopsing since natty | 20:49 |
| ogasawara | manjo: we've disabled it | 20:49 |
| manjo | ogasawara, ok.. looks like the project is dead ... | 20:50 |
| ogasawara | manjo: discussed it at UDS and decided to turn it off and see who screams | 20:50 |
| manjo | ogasawara, Satellite and Tecra and some HP users | 20:50 |
| manjo | ie tohsiba & HP | 20:50 |
| manjo | toshiba rather | 20:50 |
| mjg59 | It's really not the right interface for any modern hardware | 20:51 |
| manjo | sure its a crappy module | 20:52 |
| manjo | ogasawara, we introduced it in karmic coz some people requested it ... good to know we got rid of it | 20:54 |
| jjohansen | JFo: yep | 20:56 |
| JFo | cool, found it here https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/567891/ | 20:56 |
| JFo | no idea what all is going on, but I understand a large part of it | 20:56 |
| JFo | going to look at it a bit tomorrow, my brain is almost fried for today | 20:57 |
| avinashhm | bjf, thanks very much | 20:58 |
| bjf | avinashhm, you may not want to actually copy it where i indicated, but it shows you where to find it | 20:58 |
| avinashhm | bjf, correct ... i downloaded src ~/git/ .. i ll copy to this root .. | 20:59 |
| kees | hmpf, how do I fix the "Author" when working on git patches? | 20:59 |
| sforshee | kees, git commit --author="..." | 21:01 |
| ogasawara | kees: git commit --author ? | 21:01 |
| kees | what if I'm working on a rebase? | 21:01 |
| ogasawara | kees: hrm, could you use rebase -i, mark the commit as an 'edit', and then use git commit --author ? | 21:03 |
| kees | ah! good, yes | 21:04 |
| kees | ogasawara: yes! it worked. :) git commit --amend --author ...; git rebase --continue sweet | 21:05 |
| ogasawara | kees: nice | 21:05 |
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| sconklin | http://lwn.net/Articles/444336/ Interesting argument against prefetch | 21:15 |
| * JFo takes notes | 21:16 | |
| JFo | stepping away for a bit. I need to run an errand | 21:20 |
| * jjohansen steps away for some lunch | 21:22 | |
| * herton --> eod | 22:11 | |
| jjohansen | hallyn: have you seen https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/24/502 | 22:55 |
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| hallyn | no | 23:01 |
| hallyn | jjohansen: have you pursued it? | 23:05 |
| jjohansen | hallyn: just to the apparmor, first poke level, /me is planning to get back to it later tonight | 23:06 |
| jjohansen | I want to finish up with some other stuff first | 23:06 |
| hallyn | jjohansen: ok, thanks | 23:06 |
| hallyn | i dunno, but 'cred' is NULL at cap_capable() too. THis looks like memory corruption | 23:08 |
| jjohansen | hallyn: yeah I wasn't sure what was going on there, I want to try replicating myself | 23:22 |
| hallyn | ditto | 23:22 |
| hallyn | bbl | 23:23 |
| hallyn | thanks for the tip | 23:23 |
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